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France: 8-year-old Muslim says, “I am with the terrorists”

Jan 31, 2015 10:58 am By Robert Spencer

EcoleNiceFlore“I said, my son, do you know what terrorism is. He said, ‘No,'” the father, Mohamed Kebabsa, said later on French television. He said he told his son the killings were “barbaric … not an act of Islam.”

But then where did the lad learn this? In any case, as Jihad Watch reader Bill, who sent this to me, remarked: “I’m sure he will see the error of his ways and become a fine, upstanding ‘Marseillaise-singing’ ‘Frenchman’ when he grows up.”

“French fracture laid bare as 8-year-old praises terrorists,” by Elaine Ganley, Associated Press, January 30, 2015 (thanks to Bill):

PARIS — It was bad enough when France learned that the minute of silence for victims of the nation’s deadliest terror attacks in decades was not respected by all students. Some children contested it, others walked out. But when an 8-year old Muslim boy proclaimed, “I am with the terrorists,” the alarm bells sounded at full strength.

The chilling call from a child so young brought into stark relief the divide between mainstream France and a portion of the Muslim population, often from neglected neighborhoods. But the official reaction — hauling the boy into the police station for questioning — also triggered debate, with many seeing it as a sign of mounting hysteria.

The fierce official backlash against expressions of Muslim extremism in the wake of this month’s Paris terror attacks stems in part from the sheer numbers of homegrown jihadis. More French have embraced jihad in Syria and Iraq than in any other European country — over 1,000. Dozens of these fighters have returned, feeding fears they could turn their battle skills on France. In early January, those fears were realized, as three Frenchmen with links to Islamic extremists went on their murderous rampage, killing journalists at the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, a policewoman, a policeman and shoppers at a kosher grocery store.

The French government is desperate to prevent more bloodshed. This week, it started a “stop jihad” website that mimics the media tactics of the Islamic State group luring youth to the battlefront — while, crucially, adding a dose of real-life warnings about what the siren calls from Syria can mean. They range from being killed far from home to having a role in massacres of children.

President Francois Hollande held a day-long emergency meeting on Thursday with school officials, associations and mayors of poor suburbs with crime-infested housing projects — widely believed to also be filled with potential jihadis. The government is trying to devise a plan to bridge the divide between the haves and have-nots and bring the values that define French citizenship, notably equality and secularism, to this parallel world.

The pronouncement by the 8-year-old at a school in Nice in support of the terrorists who killed 17 people this month illustrates how the issues that divide may be seeded long before adolescence.

Police interrogated the boy and his father on Wednesday after the school director informed them of the Jan. 9 incident.

“I said, my son, do you know what terrorism is. He said, ‘No,'” the father, Mohamed Kebabsa, said later on French television. He said he told his son the killings were “barbaric … not an act of Islam.”

Education Minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem has tried to tamp down the controversy over the child’s interrogation, backing the school director’s decision to refer the matter to police. She has said that up to 200 incidents of disrupting the minute of silence had been brought to her attention — enough to make clear to French officialdom that the values binding the nation together are not shared by all.

France’s social fracture has been a problem for decades, and the extent of the divide was revealed during fiery riots in 2005 that hopscotched through the nation’s housing projects ringing big cities. The projects began as bedroom suburbs to solve an urban housing crisis, but ended up as enclaves for immigrants from France’s former Muslim colonies in Africa and elsewhere.

Today, the problems are being rediscovered and a new emergency treatment ordered up. Hollande is expected to announce new measures for the projects at a Feb. 5 news conference.

The nation has already sunk hundreds of milllions of euros into trying to cure the ills within the heavily immigrant projects, including razing buildings in some neighborhoods and replacing them with town house-style accommodations. But the jobless rate is more than double the national rate of 10 percent, crime is rampant in many neighborhoods and project dwellers are often physically isolated from mainstream life.

Prime Minister Manuel Valls, shocking some, used the term “apartheid” to describe the French divide.

At a small cafe in the Montfermeil project Les Bosquets (The Groves), northeast of Paris, about a dozen young men agreed recently that students should have observed the minute of silence — but out of respect for the teachers, not the victims.

“There have been lots of dead and no minute of silence. In Syria, there are airstrikes,” said Samir Ouahfi, 29, who has three children. “They say equality, fraternity, but there’s none of that. If we speak out we go to prison.”

Ouahfi was referring to the scores of arrests since the attacks and urgent court appearances for anyone seen as defending the three terrorists who carried them out. The Collective Against Islamophobia in France denounced the interrogation of a child as symptomatic of the “collective hysteria” gripping France since the attacks….

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  1. Salah says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 11:08 am

    “He said he told his son the killings were “barbaric … not an act of Islam.” ”

    Of course not. One might wonder if Muhammad and his gang were actually…Muslims!!!

    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/um-kerfa-oum-kerfa.html

    • Nicu says

      Jan 31, 2015 at 11:27 am

      It never has to do with Islam :(((

    • Jay Boo says

      Jan 31, 2015 at 11:30 am

      What could possibly match the dutiful feeling of honor inside one’s proud son who in his 72 virgin anticipation wishes only that he could blow himself up twice, or that of his nine year old Muslim sister who wishes only to marry someone like Muhammad and fetch a really good price?

      • Oliverr says

        Feb 1, 2015 at 2:38 pm

        There is (or was) a Muslim comedian. One of his jokes (only one I remember–read it in a newspaper).

        A young ( 8 or 9) year old Muslim girl goes to her mother, and says, ” Mommy, when Bashir (or whatever Muslim name) blows himself up, can i get his bedroom? it is bigger then mine.”.

        And, The Wall Street Journal, some years back, had this interview with a Muslim woman whose child was killed in a homicide bombing attack. She said that she had (I think it was something like 6 or 7 children) that she would be honored and happy if they all died as martyrs.

        hell of a mother. in my view.

  2. Nicu says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 11:27 am

    we must realize they are the terrorists of the next generation !

  3. change watch says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 11:47 am

    No shocks there as each new generation is going to pose a more extreme threat. Our actual reaction since Paris has been to try and sneak in blasphemy laws through the back door. Don’t think your Government is going to protect you. In the UK its already back to apologists and business as usual. How much intelligence resources do you think they put into discrediting the protesters in Germany? Sure, their leader was stupid but there is something not adding up here.

    Read A Consequence of Apathy by NR Baldwin. This is about all of us. This is about our death.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Consequence-Apathy-NR-Baldwin

  4. Charli Main says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 11:53 am

    Throwing sackfulls of money at Muslim immigrant communities will solve nothing.
    Shutting down every mosque and madrassa in France, where hate of infidels is preached daily, by mohammed´s SS battalions, the imams, will.
    Eliminating the preachers of hate instead of pandering to them, will achieve more than endless lorry loads of Jizya.

  5. Angemon says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    The French government is desperate to prevent more bloodshed.

    First they need to understand what caused the bloodshed.

  6. Ayatrollah says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    “There have been lots of dead and no minute of silence. In Syria, there are airstrikes”

    That was in another country. What do they want? We can just stop everything everytime a perceived injustice goes down?

    They want silence when a muslim is killed.

  7. mortimer says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    All Western countries need to implement civics classes that discuss the importance of democracy and freedom of expression.

    It’s urgent. It’s time to overturn multiculturalism unless we are prepared for civil war in less than a generation.

  8. jewdog says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    France used to colonize the Muslims, but now they are being colonized. Its government can run all the social redemption programs it wants to, but in the end, France will be swept away by a tidal wave of their own creation.

  9. mortimer says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    Prime Minister Manuel Valls appears to understand Islam more than most leading politicians in the West.

    The Islamic doctrine of ‘apartheid’ is called ‘Al-Walaa wal-Baraa’. It is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.

    Jihad is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.

  10. Oliver says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    I am NOT french; have never been to France and never had any desire to go there. Nor, do I know their laws.

    BUT, i suspect, if these Muslims are unhappy- they could leave- and not be missed.

    Samir Ouahfi — father of three–in a cafe ( guess being on the dole beats trying to find a job, or, heaven forbid, actually doing something, said that there has been no moments of silence for those killed in Syria.

    Well, to start, in Syria there are foreigners versus foreigners as well as Syrians vs. Syrians. For, which whom would 9or would he ant a moment of silence- those for or those against Assad? the same for ISIS, Al queida, etc.

    And, I am sure that most of the French (except perhaps his cafe friends) would not miss him, his three children and family if they went to Syria. And, while there, he could ask for his moments of silence. (Probably be most of the 24 hours per day if did it for all)-.

    And, perhaps he and his friends could get killed and do the world a big favor.

    And, take the 8 year old wannabe terrorist (and others0 with him to Syria (or Iraq or Pakistan or Somalia).

  11. JOSEPH says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 3:38 pm

    Deport that kid and his whole family. He is obviously being taught jihad. Oh yea, deport aunts, uncles and cousins too. When they realize the consequences of their evil they may stop this B.S. and start telling on those plotting violence. Gotta start somewhere, start here.

  12. Champ says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    “I said, my son, do you know what terrorism is. He said, ‘No,’” the father, Mohamed Kebabsa, said later on French television. He said he told his son the killings were “barbaric … not an act of Islam.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So the father is a taqiyya artist for French television, but when the cameras aren’t rolling, then he’s busy teaching his son the ugly truth about islam and terrorism. We get it.

  13. Oliver says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    the education minister actually said that it was the father they asked in for police questioning in particular, due to the fact he had on several occasions been very threatening towards staff and had a ‘brutal attitude’. Social services have also been asked to check on the boy’s home environment.

  14. Mo says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    I was going to say they should deport the little monster, along with his entire family. But if they are all citizens, there’s not much that can be done. (Not that France would do it even if the could!)

    How’s that multiculturalism working for ya, Frenchies?

    • bernie says

      Feb 1, 2015 at 2:28 am

      French multiculturalism worked fine when they brought in people of Christian heritage from Italy, Spain, Poland, Portugal, Belgium and even Russia and arch-enemy Germany between the 2 World Wars, and then after WW2. Even immigrant Jews and Arab Christians have been able to assimilate well for the most part. It has been much harder to assimilate many of the Muslim immigrants however.

  15. Arthur says

    Jan 31, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    Grading the French Government (right minus wrong):
    “stop jihad” website +1 point
    day-long emergency meeting +1 point
    hauling the boy into the police station for questioning +2 points
    Education Minister backing the school director’s decision to refer the matter to police +1 point
    “apartheid” to describe the French divide -2 points
    new measures for the projects -2 points
    ===================
    Final score +1 point
    Grade: D (not a passing score)

    France knows it has a problem. France knows it needs to do something about it. France does not understand the cause of the problem. France’s actions will not solve the problem.

    The arrogance of French thinking is that jihad is a reaction to French policy when it is actually an inherent component of Islam.

    So far, the only student in the class with a passing score is Angola.

  16. SpiritOf1683 says

    Feb 1, 2015 at 3:42 am

    Time to round up and send them back to North Africa or wheever they came from. France and many other countries in the West are now faced with that scenario. Do it whilst the Muslim population is still 10% or less or face a full-on civil war in say 30 years time, which the native population will be doomed to lose, and will face the full fury of Sharia. Nigeria today is Europe in the 2050s – or earlier.

    • almeira says

      Feb 2, 2015 at 2:17 pm

      @Spiritof1863,mind you that is only happening in the corrupted and evil harbouring places in that Nigeria’ s northern geo-political zone. But mussies are always mussies. They do not contribute to values but can devalue values.
      Islam is just one greatest achievement of satan on earth,think it in anyway!!

  17. Lee says

    Feb 1, 2015 at 4:28 am

    ‘…an 8-year old Muslim boy proclaimed, “I am with the terrorists”’ – oh WHEN will Muslims finally learn that it’s not “terrorism”, it’s “militancy” – according to the white-washing journalists, who are desperate to protect the terrorists from being stopped once and for all by a community galvanized into political action.

  18. Oliver says

    Feb 1, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    I posted this a day or so ago, when the article first appeared- never went in.

    The GREATEST MASS PSYCHOLOGIST OF THE 20TH CENTURY *( ADOLPH HITLER) ( I did not say he was a good person–he was evil personified; but a great mass psychologist). (Approximate wording, but the meaning is totally clear) ” Give me a child from birth to 6 (years old) and I will give you a Nazi for life”.

    True.

    (Also note, young children have it easier to elarn a new language then older people) Easier to mind set.

  19. Mirren10 says

    Feb 1, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    “I said, my son, do you know what terrorism is. He said, ‘No,’” the father, Mohamed Kebabsa, said later on French television. He said he told his son the killings were “barbaric … not an act of Islam.”

    What utter rubbish.

    No eight year old child comes out with this kind of foulness from his own volition. He is parroting what he has heard at home, and the madrassa, and the father is simply lying through his teeth. No surprise there.

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