The Pegida movement calls the media “Lügepresse” (lying press), because it does not depict the consequences and dangers of Islamic mass immigration properly. The below incident, in which an undercover journalist is interviewed by other journalists and uses the interview to depict the Pegida movement as half-racist, confirms Pegida’s concern about the media’s honesty. The undercover journalist used to work at the interviewing journalists’ station, NDR, before he switched to RTL – meaning that he might know (and may even have colluded with) the interviewers who interview the fake “demonstrator”:
Translated by Nicolai Sennels for 10news.dk:
A reporter from the German private broadcaster RTL went undercover and mixed with the Pegida demonstration in Dresden. He wanted to talk with participants of the demonstration. But something happened: A team of journalists from the ARD political magazine “Panorama”, which is produced by the NDR, interviewed the undercover reporter.
“The Islamization has a broad impact on our daily lives,” he said willingly into the camera. We feel it “on the road, in a residential area. Sometimes I think: Are we really still in Germany?” the man said. “When you go out, there are quite a lot of Turks. Many of them are nice, but they are becoming so many, that you start thinking: Are we really still German in Germany,” he says. …
After the controversial statements, the undercover journalist got fired. “We will no longer use this colleague. He has committed an error that is inexcusable,” said the head of the RTL-country Studios East, Thomas Praekelt. “He should not provoke or encourage persecution, let alone other journalists play a role for other journalists.”
Inverview (German, no subs) – starting at 03:06 – here.
Jovial Joe says
Geert Wilders has got himself in trouble for singling out a racial group (‘Moroccans’) rather than simply ‘Islam’. My advice to counter-jihadists who find themselves being interviewed during a demo? Stick to saying things like this: ‘There sure is a lot of Islam around here Jurgen, yes sir, a helluvalot of Islam; Islamic buildings, Islamic food and a shed-load of Islamic grievance mongering. Yep, I hardly recognise the place anymore’. Let them try and arrest you for that!
Angry says
The radical left fascists, known as UAF, used some of their radicals to infiltrate EDL marches, whereby one would do the nazi salute and another one taking a photo of it. The photos were then distributed on radical left websites that intend to smear the reputation of the EDL, and other right-wing organisations.
Many of these infiltrators were caught out by REDWATCH, who has a massive database of radical left faces, and were recognised as belonging to The Guardian, The Yorkshire Post, UAF, Hope Not Hate, Searchlight, Socialist Workers Party, Unison and other fascist organisations.
It’s a tactic the radical left use, in order to discredit, by false means, those who can forsee the future and want to stop any enforced destruction of society by the enemy within.
nationalist says
why is that legal?
Angry says
nationalist
Why is what legal?
nationalist says
Taking people’s photos and putting them along with personal info on a website for all to see. Setting them up too. it seems creepy. They could really frighten or harm someone doing that. Being a leftist is not a crime. Being a national socialist isn’t a crime either. Being a racist is not a crime. Being protective of your ethnic or religious or whatever group is not a crime. begin a screaming commie. or whatever.
I think it’s scary when there are people stalked for having unauthorized opinions.
I think of the story they told of several wars- where in Vietnam the Viet Cong knew exactly which individuals to pull out of the houses and murder when the time came. So did the NKVD and Chinese communists.
SPLC and ADL and other similar groups do it with the help of the global police etc. do too. The Germans kept a detailed index card on each American in preparation of World War Two.. there are huge global ethnic or religious organizations that do nothing put take down people’s names who have ‘wrong’ opinions. To what end?
Most of the Press and some NGOs and some networks both left and right i have investigated and found them to be of improper intent and mischief makers and dirty tricks. Example, I have found that many on the “far right” are actually people on the ‘far left” and very degenerate and try to lure people into be the same. They have connections with degenerate websites. It’s kinda COINTELPRO-y. And other things i have found that i am not sure of, but think. This cannot end well. It’s scary for an average person to know. it seems cruel and immoral. I don’t understand all this intrigues and trifling.
It is a violation of our 4th amendment and human dignity. There is a line between freedom of the press and freedom of information and criminal stalking..
Do i misunderstand something. I am open to being set straight if I am wrong.
nationalist says
Just for the record, I am not a commie nor a national socialist. Can’t stand ’em. Very much the enemy within fro different reasons. No doubt.
Angry says
Ahh, I see.
The point I was trying to make was the tactics that infiltrators, or undercover agents use to get incriminating evidence, even false evidence, against their detractors. In this particular case, the radical left were the infiltrators, and were ‘outed’ by their detractors!
Nothing criminal and/or illegal in the eyes of the law about that. Both sides are seen as doing wrong, and it’s down to any individual to decide who’s in the wrong.
Mirren10 says
Why haven’t you pointed out that Redwatch is anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, and racist ?
This is **JihadWatch**, and we are concerned with mohammedan *jihad*, both violent and stealth, and its enabling by the governments/politicians of the West, and yes, the left.
But this site you have extolled doesn’t confine itself to ‘outing’ slime like the SWP, Lowles and his ilk; it is also closely associated with the Anti-Zionist League, if indeed it isn’t an offshoot from them, and has on its homepage something called ‘Noncewatch’. If you click on this, you are led to a broken link, with the information, ‘oops, did you mean Aryan nation”.
So ‘Redwatch’ is nothing more than vile, racist, anti-Semitic filth, dressing itself up as patriotism.
Are you a part of this ? Is this what you support ?
Because if you do, you are in the wrong place. Jihad Watch strongly supports Israel, and is non-racist.
Wellington says
What say you, Angry, to Mirren 10’s assertions about Redwatch? In the interest of complete disclosure, I should tell you that I think Mirren 10 one of the most astute and best informed commenters here at Jihad Watch. I am interested to read any response to my query you may want to proffer.
RonaldB says
My view is that if REDWATCH presents factual information, and exposed leftist tactics of “false flag” operations against the anti-Islamic EDL party, the information provided should be used. In fact, it is an excellent defense against the accusation that the EDL is racist.
The fact that REDWATCH is anti-Zionist, or even affiliated with the Aryan movement, should not prevent the usage of their information, as long as they separate their factual content from their opinion. This is a critical factor: if they have a history of shading their facts or leaving out facts inconvenient to them, then of course they should not be used as a reference, as the facts themselves are subject to question.
I don’t see why a reliable source shouldn’t be used, even if they advocate political positions that are reprehensible. The biggest problem of the anti-Jihad movement is not that there are counter-arguments, but that they are frozen out of any discussion at all. Should we apply the same tactics to groups that we find objectionable: rather than use what is useful, we freeze out any mention of them, even if they provide facts useful to us?
Mirren10 says
”The fact that REDWATCH is anti-Zionist, or even affiliated with the Aryan movement, should not prevent the usage of their information, as long as they separate their factual content from their opinion.”
I don’t disagree. But those who sup with the devil need a long spoon.
However, I think it disingenuous, to say the least, to present a site such as REDWATCH as some sort of patriotic anti-fascist group, when in fact they are racist anti-Semites.
RonaldB says
“Many of these infiltrators were caught out by REDWATCH, who has a massive database of radical left faces, and were recognised as belonging to The Guardian, The Yorkshire Post, UAF, Hope Not Hate, Searchlight, Socialist Workers Party, Unison and other fascist organisations.”
This is the sum mention of REDWATCH by Angry. I don’t see where he extols it as a patriotic, anti-fascist group. He simply mentions they have a “massive database of radical left faces”.
I agree that any alliance with “the devil” should be undertaken with care, if at all. However, using the information provided by a group is not necessarily supping with them. You can take their article, as published, and have no contact with them at all.
I did point out, though, that if their facts are colored by their opinions, they should not be used. This is because their facts are then unreliable.
Shane says
The left in America does the same thing to attack conservative groups, like the tea party. The press in the West is not just biased, but it is corrupt when it tries stunts like the one in the article. Left wingers have no shame and will do whatever it takes to defeat conservatives; they are ruthless.
Thomas Cherian Mullamootil says
If I were an organizer of anti-islamic march in Germany the slogan would be
“SAY NO TO RACISM”
“SAY NO TO MUHAMMAD THE SLAVE OWNER”
“SAY NO TO IMMIGRATION OF PEOPLE WHO RESPECT A SLAVE OWNER AS A PERFECT MAN”
Force liberal fascist to condone Muhammad’s slavery and then don’t hesitate to call them RACISTS.
Liberal are ok with pedophillia as NAMBLA is their natural ally but getting called as a RACIST is cringeworthy for them.
Peace,
Brown Skinned Immigrant
Mirren10 says
”Force liberal fascist to condone Muhammad’s slavery and then don’t hesitate to call them RACISTS”
Damn good point, Thomas. In fact, one I often use when conversing with leftard useful idiots. It doesn’t half make them cross. 🙂
Are you a Hindu ? Where have you emigrated to ? In any case, welcome to JW, I haven’t seen any of your posts before.
Thomas Cherian Mullamootil says
No I am not a Hindu — I am a Syrian Christian from India.
We have a lot of “Syrian Christians”/”Nasrani” in Kerala. I Immigrated to USA.
Kepha says
Welcome to the New World, Thomas. I’ve heard about how many Christians in southern India trace the origins of their churches to the Apostle Thomas.
Charli Main says
@ Mirren 10,
I may be wrong but I believe when Thomas describes himself as a ” Syrian Christian” he does not mean that his ancestors were immigrants from Syria.
” Syrian Christian” is a term used by these very ancient Indian Christians to show that they took their religion from the Apostle Thomas and are not recent 17th century converts to the faith.
Mirren10 says
Thanks for that info, Charli.
Shane says
Yes and also force liberals to face the pedophilia and rape that Muhammad engaged in. Under sharia law, women are second class citizens; through that fact in the faces of feminists. Sharia law is barbaric and under it women and non-Muslims are second class citizens.
Buraq says
When the citizenry take to the streets to protest, democratic governments must take note of their grievances and deal with them, or face dismissal at the next election. If Angela Merkel wants to keep her party in power, she will have to drop the ‘you’re all making a horrible mistake’ tone and accept that there is real concern among ordinary Germans.
Interesting times.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The use of of the public smear is nothing new; what’s new is that it’s done openly, and without apology. Or consequence. This started with the now pervasive ideology globo-socialism, which considers every election as a must-win that affair with truth and ethics chucked out the window. We saw this with Prez Barack and his pals bald-faced lying about Obamacare to win the 2012 election. Yet he is still supported by 40% of the populace, a guy who’s not only a bald faced liar, a cheat, but also a guy running a loser program that has produced uniformly poor results. Sleaze with proven incompetence, yet nearly have the country supports him. Wow. George Orwell couldn’t have dreamed of such a program.
Combine that witch’s brew with Moslems, and you have your German reporter here.
St. Croix says
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/cologne-cathedral-turn-lights-protest-anti-muslim-march-114110947.html
Interesting that all of the comments showing up when I read this piece were realists who could see what the problem is, not the story given by Merkel and the press.
Bezelel says
Tourists will just flock to Germany to see all the mosks and turbans, plenty halal bratwurst and beer at oktoberfest ya ya.. No beer you say?If the Friction is not based on race then why is it racist to complain about the friction? How welcome are Germans in mecca?
Max Publius says
These western leftists are an unnatural bunch. They have no sense of self-preservation, only a twisted sense of moral supremacy; they remind me of the Heaven’s Gate cult mentality.
That said, its easy to defuse these decoys. If no one has heard of them, that should be clear evidence they are a plant, and the media is either complicit or too lazy to check on them.
jewdog says
The refusal by the maintream parties to take adequate measures to protect the citizens will only increase radicalism by frustrated voters. The most fundamental instinct is the will to survive; politicians, and journalists, trifle with that at their peril.
Billy Wright says
The West has collectively lost its mind, letting the wolves into the sheep pen and calling the sheep dogs rabid for trying to defend the sheep.
We are committing cultural suicide.
German Man Against Islam & MASSimmigration says
Stockholm Syndrom!!!
Kepha says
Wilkommen!
Henry says
Our real concerns about the encroachment on freedom, the creeping Sharia, the increasing violence, and what the future holds for our children, and our very civilization are being betrayed betrayed by fools like this. I never thought I would live to see such times, but they have certainly arrived. There’s no mistaking that much of the media, academia, and the overwhelming majority of our ‘leaders’ are aiding and abetting this with either outright treachery, naievity, or denial. We must stand bravely and speak out against what is happening, so much depends on it!
Rainman says
The liberals did the same thing to the Tea Party. They would go to a tea party event with a racist sign. The only racist signs at the events were the liberal imposters. The tea party ran these idiots out of their events.
This German imposter journalist should be given a one way ticket to the new ISIS state in Syria and Iraq. His head would be the new soccer ball for the kids there, within days.
Rainman……..
Barry K says
As long as the movement can police itself and keep it purely a strong but peaceful movement against Islamisation of Europe, then it wins credibility and trust. However such movement will attract people of varied sentiments who can easily hijack it and veer it off track into racism and other extremes. The success of such movement depends on its ability to police itself. Blaming left wing or others is a losers game.
el-cid says
Very good point. This is why Europe will become Muslim.
If Islam had a moderate form, then these popular “anti-Jihad” movements would include a large contingent of Muslims and their leaders wanting the same things are ordinary Europeans. Then, the mainstream press and politicians would join in and the racists element would keep out.
But, there is no moderate Islam or moderate Islamic leadership. The Islamic leaders are the first to accuse the anti-Jihad movement as being racist. They either directly or indirectly support the same radical Islamic agenda. Hence, we are left with the stark truth–we are facing a civil war on ideological grounds and nothing can stop it.
Barry K says
el-cid
Civil or another world war is possible if one form of militant finantics is replaced by another, left, right or whatever. Misery awaits the world in fulfilment of endtimes biblical prophecy.Why be downcast o my soul? Put your trust in God our Saviour, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.
Angemon says
What are the odds of that? I mean, of the journalist being exposed, not of someone infiltrating an anti-islamization movement to try to pass it as racist or far-right. I mean, die Fuhrerin already made her opinion known, so…
Richie says
Liberals in the Us did the exact same thing to try and paint the Tea Party movement as racist
el-cid says
There is a lot of noise in the posts above. Not sure where this going.
I think with Robert meant for us to understand is that the “news” was one group of reporters interviewing another group of reporters. In other words, it is more street theater than news.
We are left with no information whatsoever about who was participating in the demonstration, what they think and feel or what issues are of concern to them.
And, the news media continues to discredit anyone that draws attention to or questions the Islamification of Europe–perhaps the single most important issue of our time.
Barry K says
Islamisation of Europe is a real threat. But also accept the reality that any movement against Islamisation of Europe will attract all kinds of ideologies including extremes. Who dominates the movement will determine the shape of Europe . If the peaceful and rational looses control, the birth of regional and world conflicts far more horrible than ever seen would not be a silly thought. Find your salvation in the cross of Calvary, rejected by many, including by Islam.
abad says
Why are there so many Turks in Germany, anyways? Is their own nation of Turkey just not good enough for them?
nationalist says
Guest workers rarely go home.
nationalist says
After the war there was much work to be done and most of the working age men had been killed.
Arthur says
Why does this “journalist” have no name?
It seems he prefers acting to journalism, but then he fits right in with so many others on TV nowadays (Colbert Report, Daily show with Jon Stewart, Real Time with Bill Maher).
It’s ‘Unreality’ TV!