Where are the Muslims not just condemning this, but developing and instituting programs in mosques and Islamic schools to teach against the beliefs and assumptions that give rise to it? Certainly non-Muslims aren’t doing anything to call them to account — remember: “Talk about extreme, militant Islamists and the atrocities that they have perpetrated globally might undercut the positive achievements that we Catholics have attained in our inter-religious dialogue with devout Muslims.” — Robert McManus, Roman Catholic Bishop of Worcester, Massachusetts, February 8, 2013
“ISIS Enters Assyrian Town in Syria, Removes Church Cross,” AINA, January 31, 2015:
Tel Hormizd, Syria (AINA) — Two pickups carrying twenty armed members of ISIS entered the Assyrian town of Tel Hormizd in Hassaka, Syria yesterday and forced the residents to remove the cross from the church tower. The town is located on the Khabur river, in the Assyrian section of Hassaka which contains thirty five Assyrian villages.
According to residents of Tel Hormizd, the ISIS group arrived at about 2 PM and ordered the residents to remove the cross. The ISIS leader threatened to bomb the church if the cross was not removed. The residents had no way to defend themselves and complied with the order.This attack marks the fourth time that Tel Hormizd has been attacked (AINA 2013-07-30). Three Assyrian men were kidnapped by ISIS in Hasaka in October, 2014 (AINA 2014-10-02).
Attacks have also occurred in other Assyrian areas and on individuals. The Assyrians of Al-Thawra were driven out by the Al-Nusra front (AINA 2013-08-02).
Assyrians have also been kidnapped and murdered. Two Assyrians were killed in a bombing on January 22 (AINA 2015-01-23). In September, 2013 an Assyrian man, Ninar Odisho, was murdered by Muslims in Al-Thawra for being a Christian (AINA 2013-09-23).
ISIS has also targeted the cultural heritage of Assyrians in Syria. In May, 2014 ISIS destroyed 3000 year-old Assyrian archaeological artifacts (AINA 2014-05-17).
The continuing attacks on Assyrians in Syria by ISIS and other Muslims [sic] groups has forced the Assyrians to leave the country (AINA 2014-07-31, 2014-04-28)….
Angemon says
Of course they didn’t. Dhimmies aren’t allowed to have weapons, and muslim apologists in the West defend that prohibition, claiming that dhimmies are a “protected class” and, as such, are excluded from military service. The truth is that dhimmies aren’t allowed to have weapons because muslims fear rebellion from them. And why wouldn’t dhimmies rebel, considering the humiliations they have to endure, in their own land, under sharia?
Basil says
The Turks confiscated any type of firearm, no matter how obsolete, from their Christian Armenian and Greek subjects then committed genocide upon them in the following two years. If we were to ever become the minority ( God forbid ) to islam in the US, it’s essential we keep the most lethal weaponry possible.
We must stay fit and train on a regular basis because our own government will be useless when that point is reached.
It will be so easy to see it all unfold, we have over 1,400 years of documented islamic imperialism that shows how it’s done.
Shane says
How about we stand up now and demand no more Muslim immigration into the West. Of course, not every Muslim supports jihad against the infidel, but a large percentage of Muslims worldwide do support jihad against the infidels and blasphemers. Any Muslim who wants to live under their barbaric sharia law should not be welcome in any Western country.
Islamic Rape Wave in Norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoiCYwoJKrE
Belgian Muslims: “We Believe Sharia Will Dominate Worldwide”
http://conservativevideos.com/2013/05/belgian-muslims-we-believe-sharia-will-dominate-worldwide/#ixzz2UsP74GNi
Muslims committing 95% of rapes against Norwegian women:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCdc8vQTQVw
Welcome to Sweden of Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlG75wb7lLw
bernie says
There is also a false claim by Sharia-pushing Muslims, that dhimmis aren’t second-class citizens, because they (dhimmis) are exempt from military service and also zakat (mandatory donation money to Islamic charities.
However, even if one considers that time and money that dhimmis save by those exemptions, they still have to pay 3-4 times as much in extortionistic, Mafia-like jizyah payments, than the average Muslim has to in a Sharia state.
Thus, it would seem to be better to be a proud Harbi who demands equal treatment with Muslims, than a dhimmified coffee-crisp kuffar.
BC says
What in you fevered imagination do you think would have happened? A shoot out with IS fanatics which would have ended with all the town folk dead?
Angemon says
BC posted:
“What in you fevered imagination”
Exactly what part of what I said was “fevered imagination”?
Martin Vink says
Yes. Some people would rather be dead than enslaved. Hence the USA was formed. But now Hussein Obama’s classmates have been given a chance to infiltrate at a much more rapid rate than ever before. Perhaps Egypt would ask for his extradition to face trial next to his Brotherhood classmates. Fevered Imagination is a wonderful thing. If you don’t have a dream, how are you going to make a dream come true?
gravenimage says
Justin wrote:
America is also hopping (sic) that their jihadist allies in Syria will start a religious genocide against Christians and other minorities there.
Shame on America!
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More of the usual from Justin—the claim that the US and rest of the West are not merely naïve when it comes to dealing with Muslims, but are deliberately arming Jihadists so that they will commit genocide against Christians is both bizarre and libelous.
But then, he has openly called for the West to be destroyed by God at the hands of Jihadists, so perhaps it makes sense to him given that this is his ultimate goal.
Basil says
Justin is mostly correct GI. The USA, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey have funded ( moderate my ass ) Sunni jihadists with very lethal high tech weapons and millions of dollars, with the sole purpose of toppling the legitimate government of Syria. Lindsey Graham, John McCain, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama, who are Americans, have sponsored this insane policy. You would have to be a blithering idiot if you thought Americas little rat brained allies wouldn’t start slaughtering all the minorities in the battle zone. Most of the treasure sent there has mostly been transferred to ISIS and their allies.
The good news, Assad is much smarter then the Saudi bought Americans.
Basil says
My use of “you” is not you GI. I need to reread my own blogs closer before posting.
Georg says
See Wikipedia’s article on religious freedom in Saudi Arabia. .
Nicu says
How long the world is going to watch this with any reaction ?
Richie says
remember, the narrative set by the left is that Muslims are always the victim. So even if Muslims defile and vandalize Christian Churches- or murder Christians- only Muslims will be seen as the victims
bernie says
It was also the Hindus’ fault that Muslims had to expend a lot of time and elbow grease to murder tens of millions of them centuries ago, because the Hindus offended Muslims with their polytheism (though many Hindus intrepret their avatars in a montheistic way). It’s true that most modern Indian Muslims are more tolerant than many of their brethern in Pakistan, though.
shabeer_hassan says
# murder tens of millions of them centuries ago UTTER/NON SENSE LIE FROM HINDU POLITICIAN FOR VOTE….NO VALUABLE EVIDENCE FOR IT, Muslims ruled over India for nearly 800 years, during the Muslim rule people of India adhering to Islamic Faith were a minority and even today Muslims are a minority in India. Again, if FORCED-CONVERSIONS were allowed then the Muslims of India had the means and opportunity and not a single Hindu/Sikh would have been left in India
EVIDENCE SAYS
wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion
After the end of the Islamic control of Spain, Muslims and Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492 and from Portugal in 1497.[7] After the Reconquista, so called “New Christians” were those inhabitants (Sephardic Jews or Mudéjar Muslims) during the Middle Ages and the Early Modern Era who were baptized under coercion and in the face of murder, becoming forced converts from Islam (Moriscos, Conversos and secret Moors) and forced converts from Judaism (Conversos, Crypto-Jews and Marranos). Then the Spanish Inquisition targeted primarily forced converts from Judaism who came under suspicion of either continuing to adhere to their old religion or of having fallen back into it. Jewish conversos still resided in Spain and often hiddenly (cryptically) practiced Judaism and were suspected by the “Old Christians” of being Crypto-Jews. The Spanish Inquisition generated much wealth and income for the church and individual inquisitors by confiscating the property of the persecutees or selling them into slavery. The end of the Al-Andalus and the expulsion of the Sephardic Jews from the Iberian Peninsula went hand in hand with the increase of Spanish-Portugal influence in the world, as exemplified in the Christian conquest of the Americas and their aboriginal Indian population. The Ottoman Empire, the Netherlands, and the New World absorbed much of the Jewish refugees.[8]
Angemon says
shabeer_hassan posted:
“Muslims ruled over India for nearly 800 years, during the Muslim rule people of India adhering to Islamic Faith were a minority and even today Muslims are a minority in India. Again, if FORCED-CONVERSIONS were allowed then the Muslims of India had the means and opportunity and not a single Hindu/Sikh would have been left in India
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After the end of the Islamic control of Spain, Muslims and Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492 and from Portugal in 1497.”
Let’s apply shabeer’s “logic” to his words. Spanish and Portuguese have been Christian-majority nations and in control of their countries for hundreds of years. If Jews and muslims were forcibly expelled then there shouldn’t be a single Jew or muslim left in Spain or Portugal.
See how asinine his logic is? Also, for the record, what shabeer posted is ad verbatim what I’ve been told by several other muslims – I have emails and PM from other site containing that exact same text. I’m not saying that I’ve interacted with shabeer before, I’m saying that most muslims go get their “retorts” at the same place.
Also, Spain and Portugal either passed, or are working on passing, laws allowing the descendants of the expelled Jews to claim Spanish and Portuguese nationality. Muslims were quick to ask for the same right of return, but they were rightfully denied. The Portuguese lawyer who worked on the Portuguese bill of law said something along the lines of “Jews were expelled because of religious persecution, muslims were expelled in the context of war. Completely different scenarios”.
Basil says
Indian muslims are a “little more tolerant” because they’re outnumbered and outgunned.
Shabeer, muslims did kill millions of Hindus but didn’t exterminate the remaining because there were millions more Hindus then muslims and muslims fell from power before they could slaughter the rest.
You are correct on one statement, Jews did flee Spain during the inquisition and many did relocate to the ottoman empire. They were of Dhimmie status and as you can see today they are almost non existent in the former ottoman territories. I wish Spain would again expel their parasitical muslim populace, they contribute nothing to their society and are its eternal enemy.
gravenimage says
The vile shabeer hassan wrote:
# murder tens of millions of them centuries ago UTTER/NON SENSE LIE FROM HINDU POLITICIAN FOR VOTE….NO VALUABLE EVIDENCE FOR IT,
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Muslims slaughtered up to *80 million* Hindus in India—and the continue to butcher Hindus in Pakistan today.
His “NO VALUABLE EVIDENCE” means that this fact is inconvenient for Taqiyya purposes—not that it hasn’t been amply chronicled.
And Muslims when not in Taqiyya-mode actually *taunt* Hindus over this slaughter.
More:
Again, if FORCED-CONVERSIONS were allowed then the Muslims of India had the means and opportunity and not a single Hindu/Sikh would have been left in India
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What utter rot. There were so many Hindus that they could neither butcher nor forcibly convert them all. That doesn’t meant that they didn’t oppress and murder the Hindu population in India wherever the got the chance.
More:
After the end of the Islamic control of Spain, Muslims and Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492 and from Portugal in 1497.
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The expulsion of the Jews was nothing for Iberia to be proud of, certainly. But shabeer hassan would also lump in Muslims, meaning that he doesn’t believe that Spaniards and Portuguese should have been allowed to take back their freedom from the Muslim conquerors.
And why would he? All Muslims believe that they have the right to reconquer “Al-Andalus”.
Spain just apologized to the Jews for this historical iniquity. Would *any* Muslim ever apologize for Muslim savagery? Of course, not—they just plot more of the same:
“Islamic State: We *Will* Take Spain Back”
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4616/islamic-state-spain
And there are a series of Hadiths that call for the destruction of India. Here is one such:
Na’im b. Hammad in al-Fitan reports that Abu Hurayrah, radhiAllaahu ‘anhu, said that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, mentioned India and said, “A group of you will conquer Hind (India), Allah will open for them Hind until they come with its kings chained – Allah having forgiven their sins – when they return…” (Kanzul-Ummal)
*Ugh*.
Martin Vink says
The whole world is waiting for the impeachment of Obama so that they can fight until the last American.
Georg says
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia
A long article describing something which doesn’t exist. When we develop renewables… they’ll get what’s coming.
mortimer says
The infamous PACT OF OMAR is implemented wherever political Islam and Sharia law are enforced.
Strangely, there is uniformity when Islamists take over they ALWAYS reach for the Pact of Omar.
The Assyrian Church is a miracle in that it exists at all after 1400 years of intense persecution. The Assyrian Church has had so many martyrs, it has been designated ‘The Martyr Church’.
gravenimage says
Very true, Mortimer. Here’s a link to the infamous Pact of Omar:
http://legacy.fordham.edu/halsall/source/pact-umar.asp
And here is what the pious thugs of ISIS are enforcing:
“We shall not manifest our religion publicly nor convert anyone to it…
We shall not display our crosses or our books in the roads or markets of the Muslims. We shall use only clappers in our churches very softly. We shall not raise our voices when following our dead….”
shabeer_hassan says
Matthew 10:14-42 ESV / 9 helpful votes
And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town. Truly, I say to you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town. “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. Beware of men, for they will deliver you over to courts and flog you in their synagogues, and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear witness before them and the Gentiles. …
Deuteronomy 13:6-9 “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.”
Also let us look at Deuteronomy 17:3-5 “And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, …..and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die.”
This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him: 2 Chronicles 15:13 “All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.”
Joginder Singh says
shabeer do you #1Expect us to buy the islamic bullshit #2 Do you make this stuff up yourself or #3 Does another one of your intellectually retarded muslim brothers pay you to waste our time with your islamic fairy tales
gravenimage says
The repellant Muslim apologist shabeer hassan wrote:
Matthew 10:14-42 ESV / 9 helpful votes
And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town. Truly, I say to you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town. “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. Beware of men, for they will deliver you over to courts and flog you in their synagogues, and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear witness before them and the Gentiles. …
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What is shabeer hassan’s point in quoting Matthew here? That Christians *should* suffer for their faith?
In any case, pious Muslims like shabeer hassan believe that the Bible was deliberately corrupted by Jews and Christians, and so is not a proper text like the vicious Qur’an. So Muslims never quote the Bible except to use it for Taqiyya.
More:
Deuteronomy 13:6-9…
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What would Mohammedans do without Deuteronomy and Leviticus?
The fact is, though, that no Jews or Christians are oppressing, threatening, or murdering anyone in the name of Deuteronomy or Leviticus.
Whereas, his vicious coreligionists are doing this *right now* to Jews, Christians, and other Infidels. The Pact of Omar is considered as valid todays as it was in the dark ages.
Notice that with this morass of false Tu Quoque that shabeer hassan has not a word of criticism for his savage coreligionists oppressing and threatening Christians in Syria. And why would he? I’m sure he very much approves. *Ugh*.
bernie says
Shabeer: there’s a difference between shaking the dust off your feet as you peacefully leave an inhospitable town while trusting in God and His power to judge the inhabitants of that town, and overrunning it ISIS-style, with rampant murders, rapes, lootings and so on.
The second part of your message quotes a passage from the Torah, and even most Jews regard it as apocryphal (as repellent as it is) because it goes against the spirit of the Ten Commandments in other parts of the Pentateuch.
Spot On says
Reading Islamic writings is like reading a contract without looking at the fine print. It all sounds good until you come to the fine print. Somewhere in that fine print is says that once selling your soul to Big Mo, your goose is cooked with no way out.
bernie says
The Pact of Omar (part of Sharia Law) sounds like a bunch of discriminatory, double-standard, control freak balderdash. It fact, it sounds just as bad (or even worse) as the racial segregation laws in the Southern U.S. before the Civil Rights Movement, or Apartheid in South Africa before Nelson Mandela’s release from prison.