“Giant letters attached to a statue in the square spelt out the word Pourquoi? (Why?)” That they have to ask, and that jihad terror leader Mahmoud Abbas was there, indicates that the fog about what kind of a threat we face is just as thick as it was before the Charlie Hebdo jihad massacre.
“After attacks, arm-in-arm world leaders join mass Paris march,” by Ingrid Melander, Sybille de La Hamaide and Julien Ponthus, Reuters, January 11, 2015:
PARIS (Reuters) – World leaders including Muslim and Jewish statesmen linked arms to lead an estimated million-plus French citizens through Paris in an unprecedented march under high security to pay tribute to victims of Islamist militant attacks.`
Paris police said the turnout was “without precedent” but too large to count. One organiser said he had indications it could be between 1.3 and 1.5 million people. Some commentators said the last street presence in the capital on this scale was at the Liberation of Paris from Nazi Germany in 1944.
President Francois Hollande and leaders from Germany, Italy, Israel, Turkey, Britain and the Palestinian territories among others, moved off from the central Place de la Republique ahead of a sea of French and other flags. Giant letters attached to a statue in the square spelt out the word Pourquoi?” (Why?) and small groups sang the “La Marseillaise” national anthem.
Some 2,200 police and soldiers patrolled Paris streets to protect marchers from would-be attackers, with police snipers on rooftops and plain-clothes detectives mingling with the crowd. City sewers were searched ahead of the vigil and underground train stations around the march route are due to be closed down….
Salah says
The West needs its own Sisi:
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/8/charles-ortel-will-egypt-show-america-how-win-war-/#ixzz3OS87iERO
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Angemon says
Allow me to disagree, Salah. Each Western nation needs a Churchill, and simultaneously each mohammedan nation needs a Sisi, assuming he’s genuine in his intents.
Salah says
I agree.
Matthieu Baudin says
Salah, Angemon and others; as well as good leadership we need new and original policy to contain the current violent Jihad. A step that should be taken at this point is for the bodies of the current Jihad murderers in France to be cremated and scattered at sea without ceremony or announcement. This could help break the cycle of Martyrdom and give a clear message to all that these people have strayed well outside the community of civilized people. We should deny them the final glory that they seek and discourage others who may be thinking of following in their wake.
cs says
Absolutely.
Bettina says
It’s just too bad that our catatonic Potus didn’t take his place, right there holding hands with the warmonger Abbas.
Jon says
The headline says it all. These are the same unwashed masses that will send one another gifts after the Two Witnesses get killed during the fast approaching Tribulation as if it was Christmas or something.
Wellington says
Form over substance. Classic example of this in fact.
Mirren10 says
Exactly, Wellington.
“Giant letters attached to a statue in the square spelt out the word Pourquoi? (Why?)” That they have to ask, and that jihad terror leader Mahmoud Abbas was there, indicates that the fog about what kind of a threat we face is just as thick as it was before the Charlie Hebdo jihad massacre.”
I think this indicates that so-called ‘world leaders’ are terrified by: a) the reaction, (including that of the msm, who, some of them, appear to be going off the reservation on this) to the Charlie Hebdo murders, because it shows that millions of ordinary people are no longer willing to be lulled and sedated by the ‘islam is a religion of peace rubbish, and b) they really don’t have a clue what to do about the nightmare scenario they have created/enabled, except carry out this sort of nonsense, which, as you pointed out, is nothing but ”form over substance”.
The crux will come, in my opinion, when the ‘world leaders’ are **themselves** threatened, and murdered. Then, we might see some form over substance.
Mirren10 says
. ”Then, we might see some form over substance.”
Oops. That should be, of course, ** substance over form**. I really must proof read before I post !
cheekturner says
That there were world leaders there would lead one to believe they were sincere in their outrage; I would believe from their inane comments that it was more a display of crocodile tears.
Incidentally.. were there any significant religious leaders or representatives there such as the Pope or the Archbishop of Canterbury or any other?
Kenny says
I think we get what you mean. And dead right you are!
particolor says
I think they’re allergic to Kryptonite ??
Spot On says
All they know is that their utopia is in trouble. They do not see what is in store for them down the road.
cheekturner says
So Hamas leader Abbas was there strutting his stuff and denouncing the assassinations as Un-Islamic……blah blah blah! I can’t wait to see his next move. If he is serious in condemning this “avenging the Prophet” then he will immediately request that all Schools of Islamic Jurisprudence repeal the law of “Blasphemy” in order that there be no further “misunderstanding” by “nothing to do with Islam” muslims who misunderstand the misunderstanding of a misunderstood Shariah Law that says that anyone who mocks the Prophet should be killed? Or have I misunderstood this misunderstanding……………? Now I’m confused.
Odds of 1000000 to 1? Safe bet!
What a blatent piss-take by this fake!
RonaldB says
Slight correction. Abbas is the president of the Palestinian Authority, which is Hamas’ bitter rival for control over the Gaza strip. They both agree on the same objective, terrorize and expel Jews and non-Muslims from the Middle East, but their followers kill each other over who is going to be king of the dung-heap.
cheekturner says
Thanks RB. So angry about our MSM and it’s reporting of this “…aaah look! see… these guys really are moderate and loving…” that I ranted a little and forgot the particulars. Still PA? Hamas? Like I say about Hitler and Abbas. Same shit different wrapper.
Kenny says
To allay your confusion and address your earlier comment, perhaps either the Pope or the Archbishop of Canterbury could answer your question as they both probably spent today repeating “Islam is peace”, to themselves in the mirror.
Well, you don’t actually expect them to do something ridiculous like stand up for Christianity do you?
cheekturner says
Probably not. They’d be too busy playing golf with Body Odour.
vlparker says
Those idiot politicians leading the march are the reason this is happening in the first place and they are too stupid to realize it. When you invite murderers into your house don’t be surprised when they try to kill you. Idiots.
katnis says
This looks civil and respectable, which the muslims will not respect. In fact, they will only take advantage of this.
Let’s hope that there is more to this picture. Maybe the small print under “Why?” reads “Why haven’t we started the de-islamization of Europe?” Perhaps citizens are passing out guns to protect themselves and discussing the important next steps in stopping the massacres.
This is war. We can’t afford to show any respect for an ideology that rejects our fundamental values. To preserve our most sacred, fundamental beliefs, we need to de-islamize.
“We have to close our borders, reinstate border controls, get rid of political correctness, introduce administrative detention, and stop immigration from Islamic countries. We must defend ourselves,” said the Netherlands’ Geert Wilders.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/the-only-way-to-stop-islamic-massacres/#KZRiLmfUxLGvixUp.99
Kristian says
Geert Wilders is absolutely right.
PM Mark Rutte from the Netherlands on the other hand still has his head in his *rse : “It’s an obvious fact that there is less room for criticism in islam, but politicians should not criticise other religions [meaning islam], not even after the attacks in Paris, because then peaceful muslims will be associated with the terrorists”.
Mirren10 says
Agreed.
“Peaceful muslims”.
They *should* of course, be “associated with the terrorists”, because they do **absolutely nothing** to dissassociate themselves, beyond bleating that ” this is not islam”, whining about ‘backlash’ (which somehow never appears to materialise), and generally playing the victims.
Now, if I were a Christian, or a member of any other faith, where members of my faith were murdering, raping, destroying, and creating general mayhem, in the name of my religion, I would be not only out decrying such ‘misrepresentation’, I would be **marching in the streets**, and demanding that such blasphemous distortions of my faith, were not only anathematised, but purveyors of such should be despised and derided.
I would also demand, that law enforcement should raid every church, synagogue, ashram, etc, and I certainly would not claim that such actions were racism, and demonising my faith.
The fact that ‘moderate’ muslims do none of the things I’ve delineated, tells us all we need to know about them.
cheekturner says
My sentiments entirely. Sadly at Mass today prayers were said for the Pope, our Bishop, our priest, our small community and the deceased of our community, but no mention of the poor victims of this genocidal act. I am ashamed, but in consolation I did at least offer my own private prayer for them. The analogy here is somewhat distressing in that the silence of the so called “moderate” muslim community is emphatically deafening, as is the voice of the Catholic and Protestant communities. Shame on us all!
Kenny says
Spot on sir, I couldn’t agree more!
vlparker says
Murder victims are made by fools like these
When first they practice to appease.
Beagle says
“Pourquoi?”
Facile. To make Islam the only religion, sharia the only law, and Muslims the only rulers.
They are winning, and it’s not close. Nearly all western media lives by sharia restrictions on speech already. Sorry for being a Debbie Downer, but I see every major institution cowed by Islam.
Bezelel says
The media are busy giving air time to every form of muslim apologism at every opportunity. It’s disgraceful to use the murders to promote moderate pisslam. If they are moderate then leave the death cult.
cheekturner says
Moderate muslims have “nothing to do with Islam”
Don McKellar says
1928, Germany. The nazis burn down a building and murder some jews. Everybody knows the nazis did it because there are swastikas on everything, and a couple of brownshirts were shot and killed by police. Later that week a huge rally is held with the leaders of the national parties coming out in protest of the murders of the innocents — but say not a word about the nazi party who was responsible. Side by side with them is Hitler. Nobody in the march bats an eye or says anything about his presence.
cheekturner says
But the MSM will highlight the fact that Abbas was there obviously to show his solidarity with the condemnation of the murders. Hitler? Abbas? Same shit different wrapper!
Ernie says
Dear Don , thank you for highlighting this piece of history ! Perfect match ! Is it disgusting or disgusting ?
Dan says
Not quite. The absence of Marine Le Pen is the significant thing here.
The Arabs are irrelevant.
CogitoErgoSum says
Some people still have to ask why? The terrorists told us why. The terrorists have been telling us why for years now. Only someone with a serious learning disability would have to ask why anymore. Hint: “We avenged our prophet, Muhammad. Allahu akbar.” Silly infidels.
Angry says
Did anyone see the BBC reporting of this march?
If so, you’ll have seen an interview with a muslima in her flat, wearing a niqab to protect her identity, simply because she REFUSED to take part in the march.
She said: “I am not a ‘Charlie, I am a muslim, and I will fight for my right to live the way I want to”
Now, I do hope the lefty scum saw it, just to prove that they are not totally supported by the islamic community in France.
Now, how about the radical left and the so-called secular, moderate muslims denounce the no-go sharia zones in France.
Btw.. any lefty scum reading this, we will NOT give up or surrender our right to live in a democratic free way, and we will NOT allow muslims of all kinds, and leftist filth, try to change our way of life to suit their fascist ideology. Mark my words!
And if any lefty believes that the march was only a lefty march, you’re very much mistaken. The FN were there in massive numbers, a few EDL were there, a huge turn-out of PEGIDA were there, so don’t try to take the high ground, ok!
We, the ‘right’ are on the rise like never before!
Watch and learn, traitors!
cheekturner says
Nous sommes Charlie.
katnis says
Checked the BBC coverage. I would say that the protests is about “something,” thought I am not sure what the headline means by unity. Unity against islam and sharia law, I would like to believe. I see a lot of Je Suis Charlie signage, and pencils, and so on. So a vote for freedom, at its most basic level, is a vote against islam.
I found this a lit concerning: “Samia Ghali, mayor of one of Marseille’s districts, told the BBC that people there were marching for tolerance and co-existence.” Um… A disconnect here? I bet that the people with the Je Suis Charlie signs are not talking about co-existence. Co-existence got France in trouble in the first place.
Angry says
@cheekturner
Agreed!
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@katnis
There can never be any co-existence while any muslims are around, due to their over-sensitive nature regarding criticising islam and mohammad, and their religious and cultural bigotry towards Westerners, and the shit that’s happening in the middle east.
At the march, more loyalty was shown towards the Jewish people, and correctly so. Even some muslims, while being on camera, said they have no issues with Jews. But hey, the march is over, today is another day, and things will resume back to normal.. so muslims and their leftist protectors will continue to attack Jews, and Synagogues no doubt.
dumbledoresarmy says
Remember, that’s the *BBC* coverage. They would be picking their interviewees – and their camera angles – **very** carefully.
wildjew says
“Millions in Paris rally against nothing in particular…”
How true.
Angry says
Especially the muslims being interview on TV, when they ‘claimed’ to have NO problems with Jews and see them as friends; yeah right!
There was also an interview, by the dhimmi BBC, between a male algerian muslim and a female Judenrat, the interview was disgusting to watch, and a betrayal to the true Jewish people in France; and elsewhere around the world.
There was a lot of palestinians, and palestinian supporters in the march, and guess what.. a female non-palestinian activist (a dhimmi french muslim loving whore) interviewed on BBC still found it necessary to make the point the Israel must be tackled for its own terrorism against the palestinian people. And the dhimmi reporter felt it necessary to cut her interview short due to the hate she was spouting about Israel on the day of the march; did anyone see it?
It just proves that the leftist war against Israel and Jews will continue; backed up by you know who.
The ‘march’ won’t change anything between the left and right, or the indifference between muslims and non-muslims, everything will resume back to normal, and the jihadi terrorism will no doubt continue and attacks on Jews will no doubt continue.
Sams says
No-one will protect us from Islam but each and everyone of us armed with knowledge and guns.
BigRob says
What a bunch of hypocrites. These same people were giving speeches last week about those ringing the bell about the dangers of islamic terror, calling them nazis and “islamophobes,” yet now band together to “stand against evil” after the wolf has once again attacked the flock. (I’m looking right at you Angela Merkel.)
Perhaps it is time for Europe to start listening to those bell ringers and reevaluate their policies on immigration from the islamic world. But they won’t, and these pols will be back to giving the “islamophobia” speech within a month.
Ernie says
Dear BigRob , hypocrites they are ( the political establishment leaders) , and abusing the victims for their own agenda shows where they come from . It isn’t a tribute to the victims , it’s the worst kind of insult ( to the victims) .
Mulder says
Sorry Robert, but this is a positive thing… Even the shit people peddle during the demonstration. That’s their right too. It’s not as positive as we would all like, but it’s a good start. No need to get too cynical… I think Europe is not as naive as it was a week ago. Regards, M
ManchesterLad says
I think you’re wrong, but I SO HOPE you are right!
The trouble with an unclear demonstration like this, is the numbers can be used to back up almost any argument you choose. “Look at all the people who came out to look for improved integration and multi-culturism”, “Look at all the people who came out to support freedom of speech” etc.
ManchesterLad says
What would have made it worthwhile … if the government had printed 1.5 million copies of the cartoons and given them out to everyone on the march.
ECAW says
Yes, “I am Charlie” means nothing without even the willingnes to take an infinitesimal risk by waving copies of the offensive cartoons. As it is the demo was just people self indulgently displaying their consciences, perhaps having a little sob on each others shoulders and going home feeling much better for it. Aah.
MukeNecca says
“What would have made it worthwhile … if the government had printed 1.5 million copies of the cartoons and given them out to everyone on the march.”
Hear, hear!
Twelve Frenchmen killed by moslems in the heart of France.
I was hoping seeing one sign, beside “Je suis Charlie”, that would hint at the identity of the enemy. Or one sign identifying the victim – France herself.
Or one calling :
“in any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support France. Defeat jihad.”
After 15 minutes I turned off the TV. What a pathetic farce.
DeusLoVult says
Sad. It makes you wonder how many people have to die before people realize that the problem is Islam.
Winnie the Pooh says
Keep on Rockin’ in the Free World!
RonaldB says
I have to admire the organizers of the demonstration. You have to give an opponent credit when they make a brilliant move, even if you end up on your butt.
They managed to take a planned assassination by Muslims in support of Sharia law against criticism of Islam, and turn it into a massive show of unity with Muslims. And what is the by-product of a show of unity with Muslims? Why, to mute criticism of Islam, in order to maintain the bridges between the Muslims and non-Muslims.
It is just so brilliant of the organizers: to have a major sponsor of terrorism towards Israelis, Mahmood Abbas, march in an anti-terrorism demonstration. The purpose is to drain any real significance of the event: that Muslims in Western countries present a physical threat, and can only be fought by truth, courage, and concrete measure. Muslims are so far advanced in their take-over by immigration and subversion, that high-publicity murders like this one are an actual inconvenience for the real advancement of Islamic society. It actually serves the interest of the Muslim infiltrators to not have embarrassments like this just yet. The publicity stands too great a chance of rallying non-Muslims when Muslim infiltrators are still vulnerable.
So, the massive demonstration against terrorism thoroughly serves the interest of Muslims, who are looking to the institutionalization of terror through the implementation of sharia law. After all, what is more likely to promote terror than the prescriptions of sharia law to cut off the hands and feet on opposite sides, stoning, and crucifixion?
Muslims are not that subtle. I’m truly embarrassed that Western so-called leaders and news media are falling so heavily for this rather obvious, though manifestly successful ploy. The most embarrassing aspect would be if the murderers are proven correct, and French society is truly prepared to accept the most blatant and outrageous actions by Muslim jihadists.
cheekturner says
Agree entirely RB. I have lately held the opinion that ongoing so called “lone wolf” terrorist attacks do much damage to the progress of the Ummah. Quite clearly the stage is not yet quite set for the imposition of Sharia worldwide and the condemnation spouted by the likes of Saudi Arabia and Iran against the larger terrorist cells such as Al-Quaida, ISIS etc are surely an indication of panic on the part of those who wish to impose such on the world. The zealots are giving the game away and spoiling it for the rest because they are not yet powerful enough to strike, and the atrocities committed by these factions, despite being fully in accord with Islam, are waking the sleeping giant much to the dismay of the wannabe implementers of Sharia. They need these zealots to stop until they have fully subverted western societies and infiltrated every social and political aspect of the west. Then the crap will really fly.j
It is definitely time to rally to the cause and let our politicians and MSM know that we do not believe them.
Jay Boo says
It must be a rhetorical question.
The Laissez-faire marchers ask WHY? without the word Islam.
Surely some of them know the WHY (and the WHO) that goes with it.
A better question:
Why Islamization ?
Ashley says
“Millions in Paris rally against nothing in particular…”
___________________
That’s pretty funny…and sadly true.
No doubt the rallies boosted morale to a nation in mourning, but the rallies did nothing to address the elephant-in-the-room…Islamic terrorism.
A day of singing Kumbaya isn’t going to stop the next attack…
josepxicot says
Nonsens we need estadistis liders,we need to be on duty against all kind of people,muslims or not who
came to our countries looking for esasy walfare helps,islam have two very dangerous fronts,the criminal
which is murdering,rapes,selling young girls for sex sclavity,are puting bombs to the trains,planes,in the
main street and a long etc…,the another front is the rest of this people,the families,the women,the chil
dren,who arrive to occident,to get a better live,walfare help,good acomodation,education and some money to cover the daily needs,waiting for the criminals warriots,which come back with the wife and the
children,they get medical care,get a rest,therest of the warriot,and the most important matter,to get that
the women could get pregnant,as they need warriots to murder christians and jews,it is the question,we
need what we need,not Why?
Mark says
I can’t help feeling more respect for France since this. While it is true that there is still silly questioning “why ” but at least there is almost universal standing behind Charlie Hebdo.
Of the same thing has happened in the UK I expect people would be taking the ” they asked for it “line and possibly even people who supported it being accused of racism.
Oliver says
I agree, I’m impressed with the reaction too. And it’s kind of like the French reacted so whole heartedly in support that the rest of the counties got on the bandwagon and supported too, without caveats I don’t think the cartoons would have even been published in the first place in the UK. Charlie Hebdo has been regularly making fun of Islamists and of Mohammed for several years, but their attitude was “why not, we make fun of priests and the Pope, rabbis etc.., so why should we not be able to do it for Muslims?”. They also published two one-off special editions of cartoons telling the story of the life of Mohammed from the Islamic sources, saying “people have a right to know about the life of the founder of the second religion of France”.
gary says
Look at this photo:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/par500-paris-france-11-01-2015-world-leaders-photo-160736398.html
Now, who is the one leader smiling at this sad event?
Mirren10 says
Is this possibly photoshopped ? Because it looks like it, to me.
Which is not to say that Abbas ***wouldn’t** have found such an event grin worthy; merely, he is a politician, and as such, would probably be careful not to have his hateful political agenda publicised for all to see, in a propaganda exercise such as this travesty.
Kenny says
So, Abbas shows up as does representation from the Turkish government. What was that Farage said about a fifth column? Abbas, well his terrorist associations speak for themselves and I imagine there are no longer any Attaturk inclined Turkish politicians anymore!
One wonders if Merkel might feel a little ashamed over her recent Pagida slandering? No, probably not. As for David ‘you can’t blame Islam cos it’s just so cool’, and Obama calls me bro’ Cameron, please don’t start me!
Oliver says
It was about French values of liberty, equality, fraternity, the rule of democratic law, and secularism and free speech and how we won’t be dictated to by fanatics who think they can intimidate us. That was enough I guess, and the solidarity this week about that has been good to see. I wasn’t in Paris, I was at another demonstration in the south. I did see one woman with a sign that said “Muslims, you say you don’t want ‘amalgamation’ [meaning you don’t want us to assume all Muslims are like extremists/terrorists], so take a look at the Koran, work out which parts of your texts you’re going to keep”.
Boston Tea Party says
Abbas knows the score. If Europe turns against Islam, then that will include turning against the Palestinians, and there goes his paycheck. So he rushes to Paris and pretends he’s upset that the Charlie Hedbo cartoonists were killed—as they surely would be in the Palestinian territories.
Ernie says
Well Dear Boston Tea Party , I see the participation of Abbas as a recognition of the State of Palestine by France ( the European Union is pushing for Palestinian statehood ) . The Palestinians have their state , it’s called Jordan . I’m sure Benjamin Netanyahu must feel very uneasy about this . Israel betrayed by the E.U. again .
Ernie says
It must be : The European Union betrayed israel again ! Major mistake ! Sorry sorry and sorry again
Ernie says
Abbas has a lot of ( mainly Jewish blood ) blood on his hands , the hypocrit ! How does he dare to show his face ! Well , he was invited . By who ? By the French government . How ugly !
Lioness says
Abbas, who praised the terror in Israel only a short while ago, is now marching against Jihad! What a cynical move by stupid, Sharia-compliant France to invite him. Abbas is a criminal Jihad supporter who advocates the murder of children in Israel. Now he marches against the very thing he whole heartedly supports. It’s like letting the wolf march against the slaughter of sheep.
jewdog says
Only a small percentage of Muslims are violent, but that’s enough for me to seek avoidance. I wouldn’t fly on an airline that only crashed on rare occasions.
For the umpteenth time, when will any established leader have the understanding and courage to point out some of the simple Islamic tenets that are implicated in these attacks? What’s wrong with saying that the imposition of Sharia as mandated in various Islamic texts is problematic? I guess the days when men like Jefferson and Adams spoke plainly are gone.
Beagle says
That “small” percentage goes way up if you include those who support punishing people in sharia courts for insulting Islam or Muhammad. As we have seen in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, among other places, basic western freedoms we unwisely take for granted insult Islam or Muhammad all the time.
Merely fighting terrorism ensures the destruction of modernity. Islam itself as presently constituted is a bigger threat than mere terrorism.
voegelinian says
Percentages are worthless. Various taxonomies of Muslims only serve the purpose of protecting certain segments of Muslims from evil white Western racism. That is their prime motivation — and effect. (Of course, when you actually believe that evil white Western racism is a real problem (i.e., if you are PC MC), you sincerely barrel ahead with such taxonomies; meanwhile asymptotics (those who retain residues of the PC MC virus) unwittingly reinforce that disastrous wrongheadedness…)
Michael Copeland says
“Only a small percentage of Muslims are violent”. So far so good. Here is a small refinement: Islam commands violence, but only a small percentage of Muslims actually put into effect these violent commands (after all, only a small percentage is needed to establish a potent effect). Whether the percentage is small or not makes no difference to Islam – in how it is defined. Islam is defined by the teachings in its core texts, which are unmistakeably violent.
This simple point has eluded David Cameron. He met an interesting and impressive muslim business woman. Therefore Islam is marvellous. He conflates these two completely different subjects to our grievous cost.
voegelinian says
No, that small point has not eluded Cameron and the mainstream. They too think the point is irrelevant — irrelevant to the need to protect the vast majority of innocent Muslims. This isn’t really about Islam; it’s about protecting Muslims from evil white Western racism. In this perspective, it is assumed (though never sufficiently verified) that even if there are bad doctrines and teachings in Islam, the vast majority of Muslims will never perpetrate them; and so, all the supposedly hyperventilating handwringing of the Counter-Jihad will only inevitably have the effect of devolving into an evil white Western racist “backlash” against all those nice, decent, peaceable hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world and in the West.
That is the primary focus of Cameron and his mainstream colleagues (who, unfortunately, are legion). Even if this primary focus is an incoherent mess when examined more closely, it doesn’t matter; it is psychologically and sociopolitically powerful in its ability to palpate and push all the hot buttons of White Guilt and neo-Wilsonian White Man’s Burden with regard to a worldwide People deemed (by PC MC, which remains dominant and mainstream throughout the West) to be an Ethnic People (or a wonderful diversity, tapestry, mosaic, quilt, stir-fry, quilt of Ethnic Peoples).
Oliver says
I hate the doctines of fundamentalist Islam as much as the next person, but I am trying hard to to feel hateful towards everyone who happens to be Muslim by culture, especially as I live in an area of France with a lot of Muslims (and which is not full of violence, sharia law or a “no-go area”). I mentioned this today in an email to my uncle who works in Kabul. I said I don’t want all Muslims to think we hate them and think they’re potential jihadists or think they all hate the “Kafir”, when I’ve no reason to assume that’s true, especially as I’ve never been treated badly by Muslims I come across daily in my area. He said he agrees completely (that some of the stuff in the texts, and the life of Mohammed, is shit, but most Muslims are not). He said Afghans he meets are mostly lovely people, and gave the example that when his Muslim colleagues heard that his dad, an elderly white Christian they’d never met, was seriously ill, they organised a special prayer session to pray for him to get better. He said he was very touched.
umbra says
understandable, there is no reliable way to determine who some of these small percentage of ROP types are amongst the ROP pool. Therefore, one could no be certain if or when an ROP type on the street would go admiral akbar. The logical and prudent course of action is to minimise or avoid contacts with these types.
voegelinian says
Avoiding or minimizing contact with millions of people (whose numbers only continue to grow in the West) will obviously not be sufficient to protect our societies from terrorist carnage in the coming decades,. It’s going to get horribly worse. If only there were a nucleus of a movement in the West to begin trying to wake up its West to the full gravity, the full horror of this metastasizing danger… There is, in fact, such a nucleus; but so far, it is only trying to alert its West to wake up to a vague, amorphous, incoherently defined threat that somehow will be able to be contained with moderate, gradual measures (increased surveillance of “radical” mosques, “restrictions” on immigration, increased efforts at “teaching” against the Koran, and otherwise “waking up” to how bad Islam is — as though there weren’t a demographic of millions of potential foot-soldiers and their propagandists, amid a sea of more or less passive enablers metastasizing in our midst.
mortimer says
Dear Jewdog,
Daniel Pipes has calculated that 15% of Muslims are jihad supporters and jihad enablers. From my own study of opinion surveys, I have to concur that 15% is about right.
duh_swami says
I guess the other 85% must be closet apostates.
voegelinian says
The problem with mortimer’s Pipes Dream is that this magical 15% cannot be pinpointed with sufficient accuracy to protect our societies from horrific terrorism we must reasonably conclude will only continue to metasasize in the coming decades (not that protecting our societies is the primary concern of the likes of Pipes and mortimer):
mortimer says
September 18, 2014 at 4:21 pm
Nonsense. Most Muslims are much nicer and more moral than Mohammed. They believe theoretically, but most do not practice all the things required by Islam. Perhaps 85% of Muslims are non-practicing ‘hypocrites’. Only 15% are observant.
mortimer says
September 22, 2014 at 12:22 pm
You’re wrong. There are ‘moderate’ Muslims, but they are somewhat confused about what Islam is…and they make up their own delusional, more tolerant version of ‘peaceful Islam’. Wahhabism is ‘real Islam’. Foundational Islam (Salafism) is real Islam.
There is no mechanism to create ‘moderate Islam’, but the ‘moderate Muslims’ simply ignore it. They do exist, but their beliefs have no basis.
Spot On says
Which Muslim is good and which one is bad…that is the question. How can we determine which is which? I submit to you that it is impossible. The bad ones rule the roost. They draw support from the good ones. This is a fight to the finish, just like WWII. All the Germans did not support Hitler. There was no way for us to kill only the bad ones and they needed to be killed or we lose. The same is true with the Muslim Jihadists or we lose.
romney says
Oh, you are so wrong. Some things are black and white. If a muslim beheads or shoots someone he is a murdering animal. I anyone does not, but supports it then they are murdering animals also. You are with us or you are against us. You are guilty or NOT guilty. Ninety percent of muslims fully support the Koran, Haddith, and the Sura. All 3 call for death for non-muslims. PERIOD! Quit giving murderers the “benefit of the doubt damn it. Have you really ever seen a bunch of muslims attacking islam or protecting non-muslims? Have you ever seen a communist country promote freedom or not use guns and force, or grow freedom. You are part of the problem.
1337 says
Indeed, what a joke. What are they marching against? Ask them whom they are marching for or against and they will give an ambiguous and unsatisfactory answer. They are afraid to face the reality, that MUSLIMS are behind this mess, that they and their failed visions of utoptia are responsible for letting the plague in.
You have let the problem into your home. Now you will not be able to eradicate it. It will destroy you from within, the things which once held your society together only becoming thinner and thinner.
voegelinian says
Ive been “taking the temperature” of the Counter-Jihad on my blog (the word “blog” is an internal link; unfortunately with the new comments system here at JW, virtually invisible to the naked eye). Alas, I find that cogent comments such as 1337’s are few and far between (though there is a copious supply of seemingly robust and no-nonsense anti-Islam bravado & braggadocio — not all that different, perhaps, from these marchers, in fact…).
wildjew says
‘Their Hands Are Covered in Blood:’ Bennett Denounces Presence of PA President Abbas and Qatar at Paris Anti-Terror Rally
http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/01/11/their-hands-are-covered-in-blood-bennett-denounces-presence-of-abbas-and-qatar-at-paris-anti-terror-rally/
john spielman says
David Cameron and the UK GOVT are HYPOCRITES! otherwise they would not allow a 19/y/o man recently (and earlier those two young women in the soccer stadium) to be arrested for publically desecrating the Qur’an. The Qur’an is, according to St Paul in the Bible, “a different gospel” and muhammed- pbuh* thus deceived by Satan masquerading as the angel Gabriel. islam is an antichrist religion that allows even encourages muslims to intimidate even kill unbelievers and apostates.
pbuh*- perpetual banishment unto hell!
wildjew says
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/189792#.VLMEQyvF86U
Bennett: How Can You Invite A Terrorist to an Anti-Terror Rally?
The last who should have been invited to the million-plus rally in Paris Sunday, said Naftali Bennett, was PA chief Mahmoud Abbas
Judi says
Apart from Abbas, what was a representative from Turkey doing there? Two muzzrat sympathisers.
JWM says
Liberal Progressive Media Lies “world leaders including Muslim and Jewish leaders” DID NOT LINK ARMS check out European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker who REFUSED 2 LINK ARMS WITH Bibi
Jay Boo says
There were some other posters that said (stand against hate) in addition to the poster with the word Pourquoi? (Why?)”
Presumably the hate in question is terrorism and not a capitulation toward the Islamophobia meme.
On a somewhat more positive note:
MSN referred to the march as being against terrorism.
Mirren10 says
”I wasn’t in Paris, I was at another demonstration in the south.”
Which demonstration was this ? Please post a link.
The vilest of creatures says
The thing that needed to be done was put a sign underneath the question : WHY?
“Because your spineless multicultural leaders stabbed you all in the back by allowing millions of members of a death cult to come into your midst”.
Can the people responsible for allowing this mass immigration be named? It would be nice to see their bodies hanging from the Eiffel Tower.
anthony says
What is most frightening is how the Islamist apologists in the west want to avoid facing the truth. They equivocate and find excuses after every jihadi massacre. If only those cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo had not been so provocative. The best thing to do is to shut your eyes, keep quiet and hope the fanatics won’t kill us while our leaders speak in platitudes about Islam being the religion of peace.
BonniePrinceCharlie says
But Islam IS a religion of peace. Just adopt Sharia law, live by the code of the Koran and we won’t have to kill you!! Simples.
Mike says
There is a saying: “if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck -it is a duck.
A president that bows to the saudi king, refuses to call terrorists- terrorists, harras Israeli prime minister. Must be himself a muslim, for sure.
Mitch Abramson says
This refusal to see the evil being produced by Islam – specifically 751 “no-go” zones in France, where this hate is churned out as a religious duty, and have the motivation of knowing they have occupied 751 pieces of France. Nobody in political power in ANY Western country has the will to stand up and call out what Islam really is all about. Europe is doomed and we’re next.
Arthur says
I wonder 2 things:
1. Was this really a march “of the people” who are fed up, but was ultimately hijacked by politicians who jumped in front of the crowds to grab the headlines and the media attention away from genuinely angry citizens?
I wonder how much staging of the protestors was happening outside the camera frame.
2. Maybe the European “leaders” feel a little more secure with some Muslim human shields marching alongside? Netanyahu would surely up the ante, so they wanted Abbas within the same bombing radius…
Vienna says
I swear these leaders and all dhimmi apologists for islam have buried their heads so far into the sand that by now only the soles of their feet are showing.
Rebecca says
At the risk of sounding naive, can someone help me out?
Who is the black man with the hat?
who is the gentleman on the other side of Netanyahu?
Thanks.
pumbar says
Guy on the left is Junckers, the unelected head of the EUssr, the guy on the right is Sarkozy. Don’t know who the black guy is.
Ernie says
The ” black ” guy is the president of Mali , Ibrahim Boubacar Keïta .
Jay Boo says
Here is a link to further confirm.
http://news.yahoo.com/malis-president-recalls-french-help-against-insurgency-paris-191438189.html
I suppose it is not surprising to see a Muslim at front and center at a time like this rather than take a more contrite approach to what was done in the name of Islam. At least he had the decency not to wear a traditional Muslim kufi hat.
Rebecca says
Thanks, guys.
PJG says
Obama wasn’t there, but the presence of Mahmoud Abbas more than made up for that…front row, too!
Xero_G says
Almost thought I saw a sign that read, “Hands up – Don’t Shoot”
Avi says
Robert, this is not an accurate image of the French marches (up to 4 million people). The common people in them were repeatedly questioned by the media, and most all of them were evidently very conscious of why they were there – in favor of freedom of speech and of the press, against anti-Semitism, against Islamist terrorism. There were Moslems and blacks among those who said these things. True, there were a few pundits who tried to whitewash Islam, but most speakers, including the PM Valls, said out loud that the terrorism emanates from Islam. What was very refreshing during that day (yesterday, Sunday) was that the media – here, I mean the TV channels, such as TF1 and BFM – gave a holiday to ‘political correctness’ and allowed many speakers to say what they really thought, including mention of Islam as the cause of the problem and that it needed to be energetically dealt with somehow. Perhaps the problem here, Robert, is that you do not know French (?).
josepxicot says
Abbas was in Paris,because in the last minute,french goverment said to Israel that if the Primer Ministre
would go Abbas could be invited,it is the two faces of french goverment.
El says
If the rally was real it would have giant bill boards of the Mohammed cartoons heaps of images of them too. Most importantly all the cartoons would be on display too from the heroic Charlie Magazine.
duh_swami says
Allah got all those compromised ‘world leaders’ in one place and didn’t strike one of them down…It would have been a good time to thin the herd, but for some reason Allah passed on it…maybe next time…
Rob Porter says
This is so well stated in Robert’s opening paragraph! Netanyahu aside these ‘leaders’ (and in their case even the adjective ‘leader’ is debatable) are operating in a fog of ignorance and fear of knowing the full truth about Islam’s hate-filled, intolerant and religious phobia-afflicted nature. About it’s violent, savage nature they now know the truth but, as we saw after the London and Madrid train bombings, almost certainly will refuse to face up to the harsh realities of Islam and what they need to do to combat it.
Oliver says
I’ve noticed an interesting thing in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo massacre – in the comments section of The Guardian, which is well-known as being a left-wing, liberal, newspaper, many people are saying, let’s stop beating about the bush, this is due to Islam – and they’re being upvoted a lot.
apran says
Is there any rally in France against the genocide of the Yazidi people, for example? I don’t recall that.
So I feel that the people who attended the rally are hypocrites, they protest only when they themselves become the victims.
noahnoah says
All these protestors were out for a reason, as the noose tightened around the neck of freedom in French life, the final act of terror has successfully pushed the French to take time out of their life and forced them to act, to come out and march for Freedom of speech, for liberty. But actually they were marching against act of terror,perpetrated by Islamic jihadists. As these acts will continue the French will be out in the streets, against Islam and it’s muslim population. Culminating in a clash never before seen in Europe.
This will spread to many other European countries. It’s inevitable…….