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New York Times: “What We Don’t Know: The reason Charlie Hebdo was targeted”

Jan 7, 2015 5:06 pm By Robert Spencer

charlie-hebdo-mahometNew York Times editors are scratching their learned, judicious heads. Let’s see. The gunmen screamed “Allahu akbar” and declared, “We have avenged the Prophet Muhammad” as they murdered people in the offices of a publication that had mocked him. What on earth could have been their motivation? Right-wing extremism? A last, desperate response to institutional racism?

“Live Updates on Deadly Shooting at Paris Newspaper,” New York Times, January 7, 2015 (thanks to Bill):

What We Know

• Twelve people were killed
• Three gunmen were said to be involved
• They escaped by car and remained at large
• French officials raised the national terror alert to its highest level
What We Don’t Know

• The identities of the individuals or groups responsible for the attack
• All of the victims’ identities, said to include police officers, editors and cartoonists
• The reason Charlie Hebdo was targeted, though its provocative fare has angered Islamic extremist groups in the past

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  1. Wolfgang says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    more from the religion of peace eh ?……………….nothing to see here move on folks …..
    ( So says Obama, Co-moron, Stasi Merkil, Abbot and ” Costello ” etc etc……the only one who made sense was Putin )

    • Georg says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 5:19 pm

      These wimpy idealists are find in times of peace, but a green tide is approaching that requires mean grown ups. Batton down the hatches- it’s going to get bumpy.

      • Wolfgang says

        Jan 7, 2015 at 5:30 pm

        of course it will get bumpy……! 99 percent of Governments around the world do NOT allow citizens to carry firearms for self defense…..its a no brainer as far as I am concerned.

        my motto ! = Be prepared !

  2. Georg says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    To think I had a subscription to that rag… When I cancelled by phone the woman asked, “Why?”. I muttered something nondescript. After hanging up I thought, “Maybe because I don’t despise the United States”. Good times.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 7:52 pm

      Why mutter ”something nondescript” ?

      Why not just say the truth ?

    • umbra says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 6:58 am

      The new york slime, truly not worth a dime. When this latest islamic attack occurred, it is one of the most trust worthy place to go (in the free world) to find almost absolutely nothing about the islamic nature of the attack.

      When one wishes to find out absolutely nothing about the islamic nature of islamic terror attacks, go the the nyt. The left loves it, lives on it and feeds on it to survive islamic reality.

  3. KenD says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    These fools will never make an admission as to what knowledge, exactly, they are evading.

  4. Wolfgang says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    Some cartoons for you all to enjoy….

    Mightier than the sword: The world’s cartoonists pay tribute to victims of Paris shootings

    http://www.9news.com.au/World/2015/01/08/07/54/Cartoonists-pay-tribute-to-Charlie-Hebdo

    Got a good laugh on their expense ….

    • Georg says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 5:23 pm

      TY!

      • Wolfgang says

        Jan 8, 2015 at 8:46 pm

        🙂

    • Katnis says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 5:25 pm

      Wonderful! Thank you for sharing.

    • Ashley says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 5:45 pm

      Wolf…thank you. Thank you so very much.

      Tears are streaming down my face…

      God bless these artists for risking their very lives to pay tribute to their fallen colleagues.

    • Salah says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 2:22 am

      Thank you, Wolfgang.
      I noticed that # 17 (Makhlouz, Egyptian cartoonist) comes from a Muslim country. Which is great.

      • Wolfgang says

        Jan 8, 2015 at 8:45 pm

        @Salah @Ashley @ Katnis

        No problemo ! have a great 2015 !

  5. Georg says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    “What we don’t know: why Charlie Hebdo was targeted.”

    Yes, we know you don’t know– that’s why we don’t read your paper.

  6. wildjew says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    I just heard a debate on the Sean Hannity radio program between Brigitte Gabriel (too bad it wasn’t Spencer) and a Muslim guest, a doctor who said there is nothing in the Qur’an that prescribes death for blasphemy (insulting Islam or the prophet). I was disappointed to hear Hannity move on without letting Gabriel address that claim.

    • Wolfgang says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 5:34 pm

      can’t you hear the sound of ” Baa ” Baa ” Baa ” in the room ? that sound is echoed around the Western world you know !

      • wildjew says

        Jan 7, 2015 at 5:37 pm

        Yes, but I was profoundly disappointed Hannity let that incredible claim pass without any debate. NONE. Good grief! Isn’t that (death for those who insult Islam and / or the prophet) what this is all about? Sometimes Hannity isn’t too bright.

        • Wolfgang says

          Jan 7, 2015 at 5:43 pm

          Hannity will NOT call it a spade when its a spade for a very , very good reason ( his own skin ! ) self preservation……!

        • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

          Jan 7, 2015 at 5:46 pm

          Isn’t that (death for those who insult Islam and / or the prophet) what this is all about? Sometimes Hannity isn’t too bright.

          It could be that he’s constrained by Roger Ailes from addressing the facts of Islamic scriptures and the Sharia, or it could be that he’s just fearful of having his Escalade hybrid blow up when started, with him and maybe his family in the vehicle when it explodes. Or both, maybe he’s relieved to be constrained by Roger so as to avert risk of maiming or death.

          Or you could be right, maybe Hannity is a plain old fashioned dumbass. But, if this is so, at least he’s smart enough to have somebody like Brigitte Gabriel on the program to buttress his credibility, even if he doesn’t allow her to argue his point.

    • JJ says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 6:09 pm

      It’s fairly clear here, when you consider that Allah is a ghost and Muhammad is dead, the only ‘war’ you can wage against them is ideological:

      5:33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

      • wildjew says

        Jan 7, 2015 at 6:36 pm

        Very good. I could not remember. I Googled it. Your verse came up at the top.

      • Say No 2 Mo says

        Jan 7, 2015 at 8:18 pm

        Ironic that the previous verse 5:32 is one of the most often Quoted “PEACEFUL VERSES”

        5:32
        “Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.”

    • Shmooviyet says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      I’ve noticed time and again that Ms.Gabriel will get very little speaking time the few ( and fewer ) occasions she appears on his show. Whomever she is debating is very often allowed to interrupt or yell over her. Don’t know if it’s Hannity or the higher-ups, or if Ms.Gabriel simply has better manners.

    • vlparker says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 11:49 am

      Hannity is better than most of the pundits out there, but he still insists on saying that the terrorists are perverting islam. I think Fox needs to hire Robert and Pamela.

  7. Angemon says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    • The reason Charlie Hebdo was targeted

    It’s simple: it’s the same “workplace violence” of the Fort Hood massacre.

  8. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:41 pm

    As is always the case with Moslem activists, they know and state the reason for their Jihadi mass murder, but the Infidel elites are left perplexed, unable to overcome the equation of how to balance the religious and economic discrimination against Moslems is with clear statements from the perpetrators explaining why.

    Left out of the equation are the authoritative sources (the Holy Ko-Ran, the Hah-Deaths, the sacralized histories of Islam, the Sharia codes) and any consideration of whether discrimination against Moslems exists at all, and if it does whether Jihadi mass murder is justified. It would be embarrassing and ridiculous to account for these two questions in the equation, so they just present the equation without addressing them.

    Elision.

    • Wolfgang says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 5:45 pm

      careful the sheep are braying…….!

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Jan 7, 2015 at 6:11 pm

        The lamb screams come from mortal fear accompanied by an inability, or unwillingness, to explain the threat they fear.

        In that sense, all news entertainer broadcasts go from elision to historical circumcision.

        Or castration.

        Are there sheep steers?

        Are there Moderate Moslems?

        • Wolfgang says

          Jan 7, 2015 at 6:37 pm

          Question is with so many WILLING sheep worldwide…….being eagerly deceived…..are they worth saving ?, too many Jooos went to the showers in Auschwitz still refusing to believe in the barbarity of man and still spewing peace at all costs. Most peoples brains cannot logically think ….. ” a person is trying to kill me……! if I fight back with tooth and nail……..goodness gracious I abhor violence…….”

          most people are just too stunned to fight back when attacked ( its been bred/conditioned out of them ).

          like most police say publicly to females…… ‘ don’t fight a would be rapist…….! I say rip their nuts out with your teeth if you have to !…..what the friggin hell is wrong with people ?

          As for Hannity……..he wont allow Geller to say what needs to be aired…as I said above, self preservation, he won’t have the luxury of bodyguards 24hrs a day, 356 days a year.

        • Oliver says

          Jan 7, 2015 at 6:40 pm

          yes, there are MODERATE MUSLIMS AND ALSO GOOD MUSLIMS.

          They are DEAD MUSLIMS.

          Just my view of these animals, both before and after having had had-or rather, attempting to have- mutually beneficial business dealings with them.

          This, as well as Fort Hood; the murder of the 4 Rabbis in Jerusalem; the killing of a baby; just reinforces my hatred and view.

    • wildjew says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 6:27 pm

      Poll: One in Six French citizens support ISIS.

      16% of French Citizens Support ISIS, Poll Finds

  9. Francis Merde says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    • The reason Charlie Hebdo was targeted, though its provocative fare has angered Islamic extremist groups in the past

    It’s gone. I guess they shadow edited it so they wouldn’t look like complete retards.

  10. Sam says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    These idiot liberals make me furious more so than the Muslims as Muslims are clear on their goal: destroy freedom, or kill us. These idiot liberals will get us killed trying so hard to divert attention from Islam. Sick bastards!!!

  11. Karl S. says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    What I find even more disturbing about today’s horrific attacks is that there are some people who genuinely believe that this was a “false flag” operation perpetrated by non-Muslims to further stoke tensions within Europe. Apparently, the kuffar shout “Allahu Akbar!” all the time and carry out terrorist attacks in the name of Islam.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 6:14 pm

      No doubt it was probably some of those newly agitated Germans who did it. Historically they have excellent military skills, and it’s only a four hour drive from Cologne. You know, where Pope Frank had the lights turned off in solidarity with Moslems who hate Islamophobic hate speech.

      It’s a crazy mixed up world in which we live.

      • Wolfgang says

        Jan 7, 2015 at 6:42 pm

        of course the Germans did it ! …….logical isn’t it ? Stasi Merkil will say so ? nicht var ?

    • Always On Watch says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 6:37 pm

      Karl S,
      there are some people who genuinely believe that this was a “false flag” operation perpetrated by non-Muslims to further stoke tensions within Europe

      Are you kidding me?

      These idjits are brain dead!

      • Karl S. says

        Jan 7, 2015 at 7:18 pm

        Man, I really wish I was kidding. There was a Facebook post where someone said “Just because they said ‘Allahu Akbar’! doesn’t mean that they’re Muslims.” Lefties with their heads so deep in the sand…

        • Always On Watch says

          Jan 7, 2015 at 7:41 pm

          Gad!

          Here we are living in the Information Age — and people are dumber than rocks!

        • Western Canadian says

          Jan 8, 2015 at 1:32 am

          Not in the sand…..

  12. wildjew says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    Last week:

    “Israel on Friday formally expressed its “deep disappointment” to France for voting on Tuesday for a Palestinian resolution at the UN Security Council calling for a full IDF withdrawal to the pre-1967 lines by the end of 2017.

    JIHAD WATCH

    Poll: 80% of “Palestinians” support jihad terror attacks on Israeli civilians

    DECEMBER 9, 2014

    • Oliver says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 6:45 pm

      Wildjew,

      An acquaintance of mine just returned from Israel. (He speaks Hebrew fluently, so no need for a translator)- and found that ABOUT SIX THOUSAND (6,000) JEWS A MONTH, FROM FRANCE, ALONG WITH THEIR MONEY, are coming to Israel, to live-permanently.

      So, the percentage who support ISIS will probably go up, as the educated (Jews0 leave and Muzzie shit replaces them

  13. Always On Watch says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    For God’s sake!

    The West is determined to commit cultural suicide!

  14. Bob Seeley says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    What the jihadists understand and we don’t is that the creator of the universe needs help in destroying his children who poke fun at him. Riiiiiiight. How incredibly stupid can people be?

  15. Wolfgang says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    Do not forget that ALL the so called ” intelligent ” leaders believe in cancelling would be Jihadists passports BEFORE they leave rather than after….and that NONE of them stop them coming back after they have seen the error of their ways enjoying the art of free war training against us filthy kaffar. This is a direct result of the Western stupidity at work by brainless intellectuals in high places….baa baa the sheep are led by wolves…

    dumb and dumber…..hard to debate who is more stupid

  16. katherine says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    France is rich with targets. Certainly like to see immoral women’s magazines targeted. Maybe some groups can go to the latest fashion shows and gun down a few dozen skimpy-dress models – ooh when’s the next Victoria Secret event?

    Burn those sinful alcohol factories known as vineyards – the country needs to be purified. Those shameless naked apes at the beaches – get a dozer and bury them alive in the sand.

    Yesss ….. exciting times for France.
    .

  17. Wolfgang says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    solution : let the French Foreign legion in to hunt them down…..

  18. Wolfgang says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    anti-islam cartoons…..

  19. Wolfgang says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    Has me laughing……apparently the useless moronic jihadists killed a Muslim cop !…….

    quote : ” The French officer executed outside the Charlie Hebdo office in Paris has been identified as a 42-year-old Muslim man. ”

    Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/01/08/10/54/executed-paris-police-officer-was-muslim#XBmw8eFuawiWq7hs.99

    They are so eager to kill the filthy kaffar……they don’t mind killing one of their own…….! does the Muzzie cop get to his 72 imaginary virgins too ?

    no wonder he was holding his hands up in surrender…. ” no don’t kill me ! I am a Muslim too !……go kill the infidel !

    • SpiritOf1683 says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 6:48 pm

      Because he was a cop, he became a ‘honorary infidel’ – thats why he was murdered in cold blood.

  20. William says

    Jan 7, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    After the emotions due to this massacre settle, the media will declare that the reason why Charlie Hebdo was targeted and its staff massacred was because of his provocative cartoons. They can’t see the real reason or cause, which is the teachings in the Mohammedans’ religion. Blaming the cartoons as the cause of the massacre of Charlie Hebdo is like blaming a woman’s female sexual organs as the cause of her rape. It is just sick.

    • Always On Watch says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 8:06 pm

      William,
      Tragically, I’m quite sure that you are correct.

      Islamomania is gaining power — and, overall, the West is cowering.

      I’m glad that I’m as old as I am.

    • William says

      Jan 7, 2015 at 8:31 pm

      The reason bank robbers rob banks is because the banks have money in them. Anyone who blames the massacre on the cartoons is not amoral. They are horridly immoral, and should be publicly condemned for it.

  21. Danny says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    What a load of crap this new york times article is. Only a fool would believe this garbage.

  22. Oliver says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    I did not read this-just a summary of a commentary.

    It seems some MUSLIM WHO IS NOT AN APOLOGIST. in a 9SA TODAY OP-ED, basically told the truth–Islam IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION; IT DOES NOT BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH AND BELIEVES IN SUBJUGATION.

    James Torento (WSJ online) ( best of the web) –today (Jan 8, 2015)

  23. Oliver says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 6:30 pm

    I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said this, and is 100+% true of the NYT.

    READ THE ADVERTISEMENTS. PROBABLY THE ONLY TRUE PARTS OF A NEWSPAPER.

    Never so true.

  24. sayed hamed alqazwiny says

    Jan 12, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    If Charlie Hebdo is brave, he should attack ISIS, not the victims of ISIS who are innocent Muslims. 99.9% of the victims of ISIS are Muslims. And now ISIS will attack innocents in the name of Islam, to show that all Muslims are killers.
    ISIS, al-Qaida, Saddam, Saudi family and the like are called outliers in the Islamic society, which means extremists. USA, Israel, the West supported those outliers and made them very powerful.
    It is well known that wounded ISIS fighters being treated in Israeli hospitals. US and the West training ISIS, giving ISIS weapon, buying oil and drugs from ISIS, help recruting ungry young people, even giving them protection and food when ISIS needed that.

    • Angemon says

      Jan 13, 2015 at 2:04 pm

      sayed hamed alqazwiny posted:

      “If Charlie Hebdo is brave, he should attack ISIS, not the victims of ISIS who are innocent Muslims. 99.9% of the victims of ISIS are Muslims. ”

      Huh? Charlie Hebdo satirized muslims. ISIS are muslims. Oh, and I’d like to see the source of your “99.9%” figures – ISIS didn’t attack just a handful of Yazidis and Christians.

      “And now ISIS will attack innocents in the name of Islam, to show that all Muslims are killers.
      ISIS, al-Qaida, Saddam, Saudi family and the like are called outliers in the Islamic society, which means extremists.
      ”

      Now you’re trying to sneak a big one in. ISIS is not the same as Saddam or the Saudi royal family. ISIS abides by islamic law, Saddam was a dictator who oppressed everyone equally and the Saudi royal family (allegedly) lives a Westernized lifestyle while enforcing wahabism in SA and financing terrorism abroad to keep devout muslims out of their backs.

      “It is well known that wounded ISIS fighters being treated in Israeli hospitals.”

      “Well known”, eh? Those are weasel word, but let’s go with ahem: so Israel treats ISIS soldiers. Do ISIS soldiers who arrive at an Israeli hospital identify themselves as ISIS soldiers? I doubt that. Let’s suppose that an Israeli hospital refused to treat a soldier of ISIS. The next day, newspapers worldwide would have have on the front page “Islamophobic oppressive Israeli state refuses to treat muslim”. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

      Besides, Israel is a civilized nation – it wouldn’t deny treatment to a captured enemy.

      “US and the West training ISIS, giving ISIS weapon, buying oil and drugs from ISIS, help recruting ungry young people, even giving them protection and food when ISIS needed that.”

      While what you say about training and equipping ISIS jihadis is partially true, it was done when ISIS was passing itself as a “moderate” group fighting against Assad, and despite the warnings of experts like Robert Spencer, who warned that the groups the US was supporting were not moderate at all. But the US don’t help recruiting angry young people to join ISIS – in fact, the US have prevented people from traveling to join ISIS.

      The notion that you’re trying to pass – that ISIS’s is a puppet used to oppress muslims and whose strings are being pulled by the US – is laughable, at best, and asylum-worthy at worst. The muslims killed by ISIS are killed because ISIS styles itself as the legitimate caliphate and, as such, they deem muslims who fight against them as “hypocrites”.

    • Champ says

      Jan 13, 2015 at 2:30 pm

      sayed states:

      “99.9% of the victims of ISIS are Muslims.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Really!!! 99.9%, eh? Well, that leaves only a fraction of a percent–according to *your* barometer, for the countless Christians that have been slaughtered in cold blood by ISIS.

    • Oliver says

      Jan 13, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      Charlie H IS A SATIRICAL MAGAZINE. SATIRE. NOT FACT.

      The magazine has ridiculed and satirized Jews and Christians.

      The Jews wrote letters, and said that they felt the satire was wrong.

      They did not go and kill people.

      Nor did the Christians.

      BECAUSE OF SATIRE.

      As to 99.9% of the ISIS VICTIMS ARE MUSLIMS.

      I ( and I would bet almost all of the others here) wish that that were true, and, in fact, the number be 100%.

      AND LEAVE THE REST OF US–CIVILIZED HUMAN BEINGS, NOT BARBARIANS, THE HELL ALONE.

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