The new Sharia tribunal in Texas is all “voluntary,” you see, so there is absolutely nothing for you Infidels to be worried about. The only catch is that we have seen how those “voluntary” tribunals worked out in Britain.
“‘Voluntary’ Sharia Tribunal in Texas: This Is How It Starts,” by Pamela Geller, Breitbart, January 28, 2015:
Breitbart Texas confirmed Tuesday that “an Islamic Tribunal using Sharia law” is indeed operating in Texas. But not to worry: an attorney for the tribunal assures us that participation is “voluntary,” and one of the Sharia judges, Dr. Taher El-badawi, says it’s devoted only to “non-binding dispute resolution.”
This is how it starts. This is how it started in the United Kingdom. When Sharia courts were instituted there, Muslim and non-Muslim officials alike all assured the British public and the world that they would be voluntary, restricted to matters involving non-criminal matters, and subject to the British courts. Any areas in which British law and Sharia law conflicted would be referred not to the Sharia courts, but to the British courts.
That is not how it worked out. The Telegraph reported in August 2011 that “there are growing concerns” that the Sharia courts “are creating a parallel legal system — and one that is developing completely unchecked.” The Independent stated in April 2012 “some Sharia law bodies have been misrepresented by the media as being transparent, voluntary and operating in accordance with human rights and equality legislation. This is not the case. Many Sharia law bodies rule on a range of disputes from domestic violence to child residence all of which should be dealt with by UK courts of law.” Instead, “they operate within a misogynist and patriarchal framework which is incompatible with UK legislation.”
And in July 2013, the BBC (of all places) announced a video expose of the Sharia courts:
A BBC Panorama Documentary goes undercover in one of the 85 sharia courts operating as a parallel legal system in the UK, uncovering the extensive abuse of women, refusal to grant divorces, charging of the woman but not the man for divorce proceedings, and even the taking away of the woman’s children, and rulings contrary to British law.
Now this is coming to Texas. Sharia judge El-badawi said this about the Islamic divorces his tribunal would be dealing with: “While participation in the tribunal is voluntary, a married couple cannot be considered divorced by the Islamic community unless it is granted by the tribunal.” He readily owned up to how sexist the process is: “The husband can request the divorce directly from the tribunal. The wife must go to an Imam who will request the divorce for her.”
Even worse, the UK’s Telegraph reported this about the Sharia courts in its August 2011 report:
After being beaten repeatedly by her husband — who had also threatened to kill her — Jameela turned to her local Sharia council in a desperate bid for a way out of her marriage…In an airless room in the bowels of the mosque, Jameela is asked to explain why she wants a divorce. She replies that her husband spends most of his time with his second wife — Islamic law allows men to have up to four wives — but complains he is abusive whenever he returns to her home.
Her request for a divorce was denied. “For the sake of the children, you must keep up the facade of cordial relations,” the Sharia judge told her. “The worst thing that can happen to a child is to see the father and mother quarreling.”
The Telegraph article adds ominously: “While a husband is not required to go through official channels to gain a divorce — being able to achieve this merely by uttering the word ‘talaq’ — Islamic law requires that the wife must persuade the judges to grant her a dissolution.” El-badawi sounds as if he is planning to set up the same system in Texas.
Will the Texas Sharia court also turns a blind eye to spousal abuse, like the British Sharia court that heard Jameela’s case, in accord with this Qur’anic directive? “Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that Allah has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them.” (Qur’an 4:34)
You think that couldn’t happen in Texas? When asked what he would do when Islamic law conflicted with American law, El-badawi said: “We follow Sharia law.”
The dehumanization and diminishment of women is universal in the Muslim world. Muslim women can’t go against what their husbands and Sharia judges decide, no matter how many times the Sharia courts insist that they’re “voluntary.” Above all, they can’t go against what Islam says.
These Sharia courts are vicious, misogynistic, and brutal. The host countries have no clue what goes on in these “tribunals.” They should be banned in Western nations. Instead, they’re coming to Texas – and probably soon to your state as well.
Joe98 says
I feel that Muslims in the West should be FORCED to follow sharia law. Should be FORBIDDEN from following Western law.
And should receive sharia punishments.
And anybody who leaves Islam should be killed.
That will get rid of Islam from the West.
Gungadin says
Pardon me Joe98 but …..what the hell is it that you’re smoking?
particolor says
Bagdad Peace Pipe ??
Joe98 says
Currently Muslims in the West try to have a bit of sharia and a bit of western law. If their choice is 100% sharia or no sharia, they will choose no sharia! it is obvious.
Shane says
Muslims have been killing other Muslims for over 1,000 years, but there are still over 1 billion of them. We must ban sharia law in every state and stop all Muslim immigration into the USA. Also, banning the burkha would be a good idea.
Ross says
Yes! Keep them out of the West and they will kill each other in their own countries. Then, when they are down to the last man, the goats can’t give birth to an Islamist. Problem solved. Peace on earth.
Oliver says
Can I please second Gungadin? So you think it’s fine if Muslim women living in the west are abused, or if people from that community who no longer believe in Islam are killed? Great…
quotha raven says
Perhaps, Gunga, Joe is thinking outside the box and just a natural wit? I think his post is brll! qr
quotha raven says
…make that “brill!”…
Robert Graham says
I believe that Shiaria Law should have no legal weight in North America. Both the States and Canada both were built on Christian principles. Maybe part of the problem is that we have abandoned the very principles we were founded on for secularism, which leaves room for a completely foreign and different world view and principles, to be debated!
roger woodhouse says
Yes Robert .islam is happy to fill the vacuum which we (the naive left) have created, They (the left)should be very satisfied that they have completed the secularism of this country but I suspect that many of them are now beginning to wonder if it was such a good idea afterall! Such a pity this country has pandered to the left for so long
Bob Nordberg says
Here is the Sharia Court’s Tribunal’s Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3iB-55uIQ0#t=10 … pic.twitter.com/C7yKRAyyHB
Bob Nordberg says
Sharia Court’s Tribunal’s Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3iB-55uIQ0#t=10
somehistory says
I listened to his terrible English. He was near the end when he said it is not *just for muslims* but for the *whole community.* This is what they want….all of the people abiding by the “binding” decisions of the sharia tribunal.
What happened to “Don’t Mess with Texas?”
The beast is everywhere and growing larger as snakes do when they swallow prey whole.
Bob Nordberg says
Islamic ‘Family’ Law Where Sister receive HALF of what Brother does from Estate http://islamicislamic.com/inheritance.htm
pic.twitter.com/ZzuexzoDda
Bob Nordberg says
Four Imam’s come to USA (DECLARE) themselves (JUDGE) and open (COURT) http://www.islamictribunal.org/judges/
pic.twitter.com/Nf23mgDNhg
Clare says
In a sane America, they would be deported at once for sedition.
Lu says
Not that easy my friend. What we need to do is to 1. Have a district attorney investigate their activities and – if there is a law violation – to file a suit at whatever court is pertinent to that Dallas area, 2. Leave the court to decide
I believe this is the only way we can deal with this plague … if we are not successful now, in the beginning of this subversion, then we have a huge problem in 20-30 years and one or the other form of insurgency will ensue.
Myxlplik says
They say the Islamic community in Dallas is “exploding exponentially”…. sounds very, very dangerous.
This guys sounds dangerous…
http://www.islamictribunal.org/attorneys/imam-zia-ul-haque-sheikh/
Bob Nordberg says
Do the Italians get to go back to resolving Italians disputes ie (THE MOB) ?
Angemon says
The outrage will start once the first hand is chopped.
MKG says
100%
It all seems voluntary until a sharia court enforcer shows up on your doorstep.
Rob Crawford says
Multiple HEADS have been chopped. THOUSANDS of girls have been raped.
Where’s the outrage?
Arsene Lapin says
Time to put a stop to all this Islamic BS. It’s always a case of ‘give them an inch and they’ll take a mile’. The first concessions to the irrational system of prohibitions that is Islam lead inevitably to the arrival of all the rest; and you soon find yourself wading neck-deep in the stuff. I live in London and know first-hand the horror of Sharia gangs. Once you give in to the temptation to dignify Islam with any status at all other than that of sheer dangerous, raving lunacy, you end up finding that the whole evil system has smuggled itself in while your back was turned. It is an illness and far worse than Ebola because it has no cure. Only solution: cordon sanitaire. Keep the filth out.
Myxlplik says
Very well put, in a way only wisdom could allow, and I couldn’t agree more.
Buraq says
The fundamental problem with Shariah is that it is an accusatory system of so-called law. Britain’s legal system is based on assumption of innocence, not assumption of guilt. So, Shariah flies in the face of the British legal system.
If adopted, it’ll take Britain back to the Stoning Age!
Clowns!
duh_swami says
When the camel sticks his nose in the tent, what’s next? For Mahoundians sharia is like potato chips, you can’t eat just one…You have to have the whole bag…If they don’t have the whole bag now, they will keep pushing until they get it. Then we can all bed down with the camel…
pumbar says
Classic “hide your genitalia” stance. I shudder to think what the guy in the suit was mulling over.
Jay Boo says
under the banner of outreach
Sale pitch quote:
“The Dar al Islam Teachers’ Institutes have been held at our famous facilities in Abiquiu, New Mexico since 1994. We provide and discuss available resources and tools to help the participants in teaching about Islam more effectively.”
Institutes attendees include secondary school teachers from public, private and parochial institutions of North America.
http://www.daralislam.org/programs/education/teachers-institutes.aspx
Isabella says
I am very surprised. How did this happen in the State of Texas?
Salah says
There is nothing “voluntary” in Islam. Islam is Submission.
Sharia Law vs. English Law (pdf)
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/01/sharia-law-vs-english-law-pdf.html
Spot On says
When I was young, they taught us about the “bell shaped curve”. Probably they don’t teach this anymore. One half the curve shows upper levels of intelligence, the other half has the lower levels. These Muslim creeps gotta be appealing only to lowest part of the lower half.
Jennifer says
No good can ever come of this shambolic capitulation to barbarism and deeply institutionalized sexism.
The Texan judicial system is, like many others, far from perfect, but this folly will only slow its progress as it will seem ludicrously progressive next to the arbitrary nonsense that passes for ‘justice’ Islam-style.
A sad turn of events. I thank God I don’t have daughters.
Mkokild Bill Hi says
America has its own laws and it;s own courts. You want sharia, go somewhere else.
thehalalporkchop says
The US has laws on the books about freedom of religion so Islam is here to stay.
But. Sharia is not religion it is law and as such can and should be declared illegal and practitioners thrown in jail.
Sharia endorses bigamy. Discrimination against women (you would think the left would have something to say} A rape victim requires four male witnesses to verify it or she can be stoned for adultery. Sound a little extreme? No action now and that is what’s coming.
duh_swami says
Sharia is ‘God’s’ laws…Not some of them, all of them…Let the foot in the door and the rest of the body will follow…Islam cannot as it is, fully practice freedom of religion, because of sharia, that will always frustrate them…Possibly if the sharia need is great, they should move to a country that permits it, where they can be happy all the time.
I actually prefer kangaroo court based on vigilante law, but that’s just me.
Peter Charles says
This would be un Constitutional position for the State of Texas to take. It abrogates many of the Bill of Rights and the Equal Protection clause The state needs someone to file in court to STOP this criminal behavior..
Katnis says
Ready, set, go backwards!
Oliver says
I think this is a worrying development. I find it disgusting that sharia courts are allowed to operate in the UK.
Rob Crawford says
Shariah permits — encourages, even — slavery. Anyone advocating its practice in free nations should be declared homo hostis generis and summarily executed as a slaver.
Dawn says
So who do the people of TX and the rest of the USA write to complain to and send information about Shitria courts?
Should we write to the governor of TX, the State courts of TX? There has to be someone we can enlighten with what exactly a Shirtira court will be deciding on that is against the Constitution and State of TX laws.
The people of TX and of the USA have to start protesting these actions, if it is left alone, then yes, things will only get worse.
Can we start a petition?
jsteves2000 says
NO NO NO NO NO NO Sharia law in the U.S .Better start writing state and federal legislators . Probably wouldn’t do any good though. If it happens in Texas even voluntary, then it will spread…What happens in Texas don’t stay in Texas
Keith says
Sorry but it is too late, like the UK and the rest of Europe, you have muslims now you have to have what comes with them, racism, sexism, hatred, violence and Sharia law plus a lot more. There will now be claims of discrimination whenever a muslim doesn’t get his/her own way. Anything a muslim decides that is Islamophobic will be reported to the police.
Anything spoken in earshot of a muslim must only be praise of Islam, even singing the theme tune to Peppa Pig will be deemed Islamophobic and the perpetrator persecuted, sorry I mean reported to the authorities, same thing really. You already have the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House how long do you think it will be before pro Sharia laws start being passed?
Freedombreeze says
Obama, the enabler, has given them a green light. They have no fear of fundamentally changing America, just as Obama is doing.
Jae M says
It is insane that a Country with established and well founded laws would let a religion (especially one with a political ideology) create its own laws for the obvious reasons of taking AWAY the rights of the the people in that religion. No doubt a Muslim would be highly pressured to use the Sharia court (whether they want to or not).
It is a sad day in human rights when the US would allow a political move like this. Sharia is a barbaric system of oppression for men and women alike. SHAME on any state that would allow Sharia to be practiced in any form on US ground.
It is just one more step the Muslim Brotherhood is implementing on the way to taking over the free country.
Keith says
I couldn’t agree more, unfortunately Sharia is now in the US and it will only spread, there appears to be no going back. Anyone who advocates challenging these courts will be called Islamophobic.
Myxlplik says
More States should be moving to legally ban Sharia
http://conservativetribune.com/states-ban-sharia-law/
Bezelel says
A real lawyer might correct me but I’m of the understanding that the borders of the USA are defined by the jurisdiction of the US Constitution as well as the states, counties and cities.
pongidae rex says
‘Allahu Akbar’ is the ‘Seig Heil’ of the 21st Century. We shall see how it plays out this time around. Given the miserable calibre of Western leadership, there is serious cause for concern.
Sridhar says
You have to grant it to them: they have the guts to go right inside the lion’s den and fight. I just cannot believe that even the US is succumbing to this creeping virus.
Doug Kenwright says
Muslims take advantage of the fact that, for the most part, civilized people do not react with violence to ideas and actions that are abhorrent to them.
That will change as those same civilized people endure more and more targeted actions against them.
Mark says
I’m not surprised that the “tribunal” exists in Texas. After all, there is a 25 acre “compound” of Muslims that has Jihadi training on=grounds.
quotha raven says
Mark – Why do you post this? To give your post and yourself credibility, say the specifics: Where, when, source…etc. You are not hanging out with morons here.
Bob Halpern says
yet another reason why Gov. Rick Perry is not presidential timber.