Notes by Pamela Geller and me about the free speech rally today in Garland, Texas:
Despite the media’s smear attack on those of us who are standing for freedom, we were unbowed. Today in Garland, Texas, thousands of freedom-loving Americans took a stand for the freedom of speech. Block after block, row after row, Texan after Texan, American after American, said No to the restrictions against free speech as mandated under Islamic law (Sharia). Leaders of the Muslim community in America held a conference in support of Muhammad and the restriction of “Islamophobic” speech — working for the same goal as that which was held by those who killed twelve people at the Charlie Hebdo offices in Paris last week: the pun. And yet, the superintendent of schools allowed a treasonous, anti-American group to hold a “conference” agitating for an abridgment of the First Amendment. Despite the mass slaughter of the editorial staff of a French magazine that did not adhere to the draconian Sharia blasphemy laws, mandating death for criticism of Islam. The Islamic law on restriction of free speech has no place in the American public sphere. It is anathema to the principles upon which this great nation was established.
We’re not alone in this understanding of the American idea. Thousands of Americans joined us to oppose the most radical and extreme ideology on the face of the earth. They demonstrated their indomitable commitment to freedom. We will never give in, and never submit, and never be subjugated.







Louis says
Well done Pamela, tobert and Texas!!!
Alissa says
We should all order 100 car window decals “Je Suis Freedom of Speech” and sell to our friends/family at cost. We need to work on this and use every unfortunate terrorist strike as they happen as a means of advancing our cause. Get as many people as possible to stand up for our freedom of speech and for the protection of our children’s future. Get as many people on board before the feeling of outrage passes. The people with the most time (and the least to lose for speaking out) are the seniors, the retired generation, but everyone should be working on this. We need to create a social movement that politicians have to listen to.
Cate says
I’m so glad to hear this news!! I’ve been waiting and waiting to hear what went down. Robert, you and Pamela ROCK!!!!
FarmerMike says
Very inspiring free speech event! Thanks for the action! And thank you both for the report.! I would gladly join in with such an event in the Cincinnati, Ohio, metropolitan area.
Meanwhile, I may add a free speech bumper sticker to my car that says: “If you can’t take a joke, stay out of my country!”
Shane says
What about the hypocrisy of liberals who denounce any criticism of Islam or Muhammad who are saying “I am Charlie.” No, we who support free speech and are against Islamic blasphemy laws are Charlie, not Obama and the libs.
MKG says
Sariah law. Laws are meaningless if people do not wish to obey them or if there is no enforcement. It is this enforcement perpetrated by muslims and treasonous politicians we must resist. This is just my simple understanding on this. Keep up the good work Mr. Spencer and Ms. Geller. While you are attending to your arena my brothers and I are attending to ours. Wish I could be there.
Shane says
In Europe and Canada they do enforce Islamic blasphemy laws, but they call them something else – hate speech laws. All hate speech laws should be repealed as they stifle freedom of speech.
Western Canadian says
Gee, that would come as a shock to CANADIANS who have dared to defy islamic (RTC) law and threats of death to SPEAK OUT!!!!..
You know nothing of Canada, so shut up.
jihad3tracker says
Hello MKG — Here is a way to understand the appeal of Sharia law in terms of human psychology, and also why it runs counter to the challenges and “downside” of Western freedoms.
http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/07/allegory-of-pleasantville.html
The website which has it linked — http://www.inquiryintoislam.com — is a comprehensive resource for information about Islam. See the upper right of its homepage for more paths to excellent articles.
And, even though I have listed these others before, here are several more — for new visitors to JW : http://www.citizenwarrior.com / http://www.thereligionofpeace.com / http://www.barenakedislam.com
MKG says
Thanks for the links. The three things about islam nicely shores up the three stages of jihad I viewed on JW and answeringmuslims.com
jihad3tracker says
Thanks for mentioning http://www.answeringmuslims.com — David Wood’s website, which I should have included with the other resources.
Like Bob Spencer and Pam Geller, he is an expert on the Qur’an and the Hadith, and has a great sense of humor.
You referred to the three stages of jihad , . . Dr. Wood has a video on that very subject. I urge every comment reader here to watch it, and other ones he has created.
Roderick MacUalraig says
Thank you for you’re vigilant defense of natural human rights, Pamela and Robert!
You are true fighters for human liberty.
Alissa says
Thank God for Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. The fact that we have come to this is surreal. Yes again thank God for Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer and other brave truthful responsible people who make their voices heard. The state of our society is shocking. CAIR is renting a venue paid for by American taxpayers to plot the continued destruction of our civilized society and everything we value and have valued and fought for over the generations…..and it isn’t headline news, the government does nothing to stop it, the general public are barely aware it even happening. The whole thing is so absurd it’s hard to find the words. Just another example of political correctness on steroids. One thing for sure…we need strong leadership in the white house when the current buffoon leaves. (whose election and re-election is another example of political correctness on mega doses of steroids…”lets vote in a black man who has absolutely nothing to recommend him for this position but he’s black so we can all feel warm and fuzzy and self-righteous because we’re the generation that voted in the first black president”…gosh we’re just so wonderful and accepting of everybody.) We better hope the American people are over their asinine self-serving delusions and don’t vote in the first female president, muslima clinton.
Derek says
Well said!
dlbrand says
“We will never give in, and never submit, and never be subjugated.”
Amen to that and then some.
mortimer says
Obama has submitted and brought the Islamofascists into every branch of government including top secret jobs.
dlbrand says
No doubt about it, my Friend. Delegated the care of the hen house to the foxes.
Western Canadian says
The Clintons share the blame for allowing islam (RTC) in the door….. And we and our children will pay for it…
Dracula says
Thanks for this demonstration on behalf on everybody who couldn’t attend in person. “I believe in free speech, but…” isn’t good enough. The stipulations acceptable in Eurasia are not compatible with Americanism.
jay says
Thanks to everyone who went!!! GI Joe would be proud of you American heroes 😉
Fred says
I am Australian and our government has adopted the same holier than thou (white guilt) approach. We do not need to keep feeding the poor in the muslim majority countries through World Vision and the like. Rather, we should allow them to self destruct. Seems to me like the white guilt brigade are still feeling the need to make up for their ancestors acts. During the crusades those that would stand up to these vile muslim shepherds were considered brave. Now we are called racist and ignorant. Anyone that wants to kill me and mine is my sworn enemy. I have lost many ‘friends’ throughout the past decade as they have been increasingly brainwashed by the tolerant leftist media in my country. I remember when the news was the news – not some rich white person trying to alleviate the concerns of all of the poor weak little minorities. I feel that by the time they realise that this is not ‘the peace of religion’ it will be too late in many countries that have been nothing but weak in the face of an immediate threat. We send our soldiers to war to protect financial interests such as oil supply but not to target the real enemy. Never vote for a person that has shown any tolerance for this vile scum and if enough people follow we may be able to reverse the situation someday (not in my lifetime unfortunately).
Unfortunately, In Australia and other democracies we will never see laws that targets muslims. I suggest that we apply the death penalty to any person that wants to kill innocent strangers for not being muslim. WIth the help of the authorities we can get on top of this situation eventually.
PLEASE NEVER TAKE A BACK STEP EVEN IF IT MEANS LOSING SO CALLED FRIENDS – ISLAM IS THE ENEMY OF PEACE AND IT IS OUR CHILDREN AND THEIRS THAT WILL BE LEFT TO DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION LONG AFTER WE HAVE PASSED.
voegelinian says
“Seems to me like the white guilt brigade are still feeling the need to make up for their ancestors acts. ”
Yes; that is the #1 reason why the entire West remains so entrenched in its myopia about the problem of Islam — a myopia that by now has become a farcical comic-tragedy of ridiculous and surreal proportions. (And as such, it is, alas, no mere “brigade”…)
Dennis Trisker says
Great news. Must keep up these protests. When I return to the US I want to get active. I am a Liberal, atheist and free speech activist.
josepxicot says
Standing for free speech in Garland Texas,standing in every village and town AROUND ALL THE COUNTRY.Thanks Pamela and Spencer and patriots who were there.God Bless America.
wildjew says
OT but not unrelated: Over at the Jewish Daily Forward I got a sustained chewing out by a French citizen for propagating this “no-go zone” idea for which Fox News has now formally apologized:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-formally-apologizes-for-claiming-muslims-have-taken-over-european-cities/
Fox Formally Apologizes for Claiming Muslims Have Taken Over European Cities
by Tina Nguyen | 12:04 am, January 18th, 2015 VIDEOS
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This evening, Fox News formally apologized for a false claim about Muslims that was so egregious, even the Prime Minister of Great Britain and all of French television had to step in and call them out for it…..
Always On Watch says
Wiildjew,
Fox Formally Apologizes for Claiming Muslims Have Taken Over European Cities
Let’s say for a moment that there are really not any no-go areas in Europe.
America is then at great risk for attacks like those we’re seen in Europe!
Why?
Because we keep hearing from almost all sides — including from Obama himself in a recent speech — that Europe needs to do a better job of assimilating immigrants (thereby implying that America does assimilate immigrants very well).
Just an early thought for the day — on my first cup of java.
wildjew says
Agreed. I am not certain about this Mediaite story. First Judge Jeanine Pirro did not apologize in behalf of Fox for the the “no-go-zone” theme in France but only for not challenging Steve Emerson on a statement he made about Birmingham which Emerson within a day or so offered a public apology.
It was news anchor Julie Banderas (last night?) who looks to have offered a general apology but I want to hear from Sean Hannity because it is Hannity who has been using this formulation on the radio and his television program.
I wonder if we are talking about semantics; whether they are no-go zone, dangerous enclaves, what have you. French and British authorities seem to be taking umbrage to the no-go zone meme.
Then again, we aren’t seeing any Churchills rising up in either country unless it is Nigel Farage.
voegelinian says
Jihad Watch and Gates of Vienna have been reporting on the problem of no-go zones in Europe and the UK for years. Methinks the Islamopologists (including their PC MC Useful Idiots, of course) are harping on a semantic quibble, and this quibble is morphing into a pseudo-“problem”. On the part of the Muslim Islampologists, this exploitation of the quibble would be pursued through sly sophistry in a context of taqiyya-cum-stealth jihad; on the part of their Useful Idiots, it would be (as usual) largely a matter of obtuse ineptitude motivated by starry-eyed neo-Wilsonian ethical narcissism.
For more on this concept of “ethical narcissism”, see my essay:
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2014/07/ethical-narcissism.html
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
… a false claim about Muslims that was so egregious, even the Prime Minister of Great Britain and all of French television had to step in and call them out for it…
Funny that there is no such public calling out for misstatements by talking head Moslems and their apologists. For example, I’ve seen it said several times on TV by them that Islam respects free speech, when in fact the Holy Prophet himself offed a number of people daring to criticize him. Mum’s the word on that.
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Hey wildjew, on Comcast cable I have a channel called JLTV. It is blank on the channel list, but i clicked it once by mistake and got a channel that broadcasts from TV from Tel Aviv. You seen it?
duh_swami says
Lots of thumbs up to all who participated, particularly Pam and Robert who have been on the front line for years, and never waver, never punk out, or run away…It’s not cheap to war with Allah and avoid being crucified…The enemies of freedom try to crucify Pam and Robert every chance they get, so please donate what you can when you can, to continue this war with Allah that must be done, and must be won…
duh_swami says
This is the 2bd attempt to post this…Allah grabbed the first one for intense study…
Lots of thumbs up to all who participated, particularly Pam and Robert who have been on the front line for years, and never waver, never punk out, or run away…It’s not cheap to war with Allah and avoid being crucified…The enemies of freedom try to crucify Pam and Robert every chance they get, so please donate what you can when you can, to continue this war with Allah that must be done, and must be won…
Angemon says
Good to know the rally was a success.
“Tag Team: Geller + Spencer”
You should trademark that 🙂
Papa Whiskey says
I was in New York on Sept. 11, 2010 to protest against the Ground Zero mosque. Couldn’t make it to this one, but was with you in spirit. We must now do everything possible to deny Hillary Clinton, handmaiden of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the presidency of the United States.
Brian Hoff says
That mosque was built anyway all of Robert and Pam to stop it fail.
duh_swami says
Built? They didn’t build that…There was nothing ‘built’…There is no mosque there as envisioned by Allah. Allah’s plan was foiled by Geller, Spencer and thousands of others. What mosque there is now, is pitiful in comparison to what Allah had planned. Allah failed Defender…Geller and Spencer defeated him with a little help from their friends…And you thought Allah is all powerful, didn’t you?…What a shock it must be to see two kuffar defeat Allah…
Mo says
@ Brian Hoff
“That mosque was built anyway all of Robert and Pam to stop it fail.”
Learn how to write, you illiterate clown. If you’re talking about the Ground Zero mosque, can you show it to me since you claim it was built?
Or are you a liar on top of being illiterate?
You know you won’t respond. You never do.
Angemon says
Brian Hoff posted:
“That mosque was built anyway all of Robert and Pam to stop it fail.”
“Mosque”, eh? Remember when muslims were like “oh, no, it’s not a mosque”?
Anyway, they build something else somewhere else and claimed they build what they wanted all along, to fool people like “Brian Hoff”.
ken says
Wish I could be there in person (live in lib N.Y)
but will be there in spirit.
thomas pellow says
Meanwhile, in the U.K-
‘Telegraph’ (£)-
“Praying with a Muslim colleague ruined my career, says Christian NHS worker.
“Claims by Christian NHS worker that she was discriminated against on religious grounds after saying
a prayer for a Muslim colleague come during a tense period in relations between Islam and other
faiths, following the Paris terrorist attacks.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11352785/Praying-with-a-Muslim-colleague-ruined-my-career-says-Christian-NHS-worker.html
Mirren10 says
”Praying with a Muslim colleague ruined my career, says Christian NHS worker.
“Claims by Christian NHS worker that she was discriminated against on religious grounds after saying
a prayer for a Muslim colleague come during a tense period in relations between Islam and other
faiths, following the Paris terrorist attacks.”
Thanks for posting that, Thomas. I’ve been wondering about what was happening in that case, since JW covered the story last year.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/paul-weston-the-one-way-street-of-islamic-tolerance
I’m **very** glad to see Miss Wasteney hasn’t taken this crap lying down, and is instigating a Tribunal. Good for her, and I hope she wins, and is massively recompensed.
Nice to see the mohammedan has also been named. How absolutely typical that this bint would turn on someone who offered her nothing but help and sympathy, and try to get her fired. *She* should be prosecuted , for malicious misrepresentation.
Brian Hoff says
Stand with the Prophet wasnot about ending free speech that is only hate speech from Pam who hate Islam.. First some people make treat againd Standing with the Prophet to use gun and dymati. Than Islamophobia man said they have no righjt to use public builting paid for by taxprayer is than racist for makeing that remark.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Brian Hoff,
Your name suggests that you are a native speaker of English, but your garbled text suggests that you are under some sort of cognitive attack. Jinn got your tongue? Please undergo an exorcism.
duh_swami says
Defender Brian,,,Why do you want to stand by a depraved man who did depraved things?
Are you a fan of depravity Defender? In the civilized world Mahound would be arrested and probably hanged for his depravity….If not hanged, sentenced to a life of hard labor at a hog farm. If you live in the US, you know there are laws against much of what Mahound did. A little too much sunnah will get you in trouble in most civilized country’s…Sorry, but you will be arrested if you go about town sucking tongues of little boys. I’m sure you already know that so you don’t do it, but that must be frustrating to you. Well if you are going to stand by your man you have to take the bad along with any good you get out of it. That’s inshallah too…
thomas pellow says
And in Britain, P.M Cameron continues the ban on the entry of anti-islamic jihadists, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, despite Cameron’s devious, hypocritical claim that he supports free speech, post-Hebdo massacres.
Mirren10 says
”And in Britain, P.M Cameron continues the ban on the entry of anti-islamic jihadists, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, despite Cameron’s devious, hypocritical claim that he supports free speech, post-Hebdo massacres.”
Exactly, Thomas.
Of course, the reason is that Mr Spencer and Ms Geller aren’t quite high profile enough yet, in the UK. So there is no political advantage for camoron and his vicious sidekick, may.
Few people have heard of them, and the sterling, courageous work they do. I do my little bit towards raising this profile, by recommending Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugs to as many people as I can, and frequently post articles on my husband’s fb page.
peter weber says
PEDIGA demonstration in Dresden (Germany) forbidden!
http://www.polizei.sachsen.de/de/dokumente/PDD/20150118XAllgemeinverfXgung.pdf
IS? No, I think it is the BND (Federal Intelligence Service) …
Michael Warden says
Nice to think we could organise something similar in the UK but not on a Saturday because the sheeple would be at football matches. Also, of course, our weasel governement and all the media would either condemn it or ban it or both.
Ps : wildjew remarked that Nigel Farage would save the UK. bxxxxxxs !! Nigel Farage is on record as saying ” I have no problem with muslims “..
pps : please can we have Robert Spencer as Prime Minister and Pamela Geller as Home Secretary ?
Enezio E. de Almeida Filho says
Keep up the good fight, and may your tribe increase worldwide!
Kasey says
Too many people are thanking an imaginary god for Pamela Geller. Just as too many Muslims are perpetrating terror in the name of their god Allah.
When will the World wake up that all this rivalry among the different monotheistic religo-ideologies will destroy Humanity if it continues. It’s past time all monotheists asked” Why do I believe what I believe?” …..then “Why should I believe that?” [& Do they really also believe a creator god is out there somewhere in space and has been there for more than 14 billion years?] If they are honest it will be “because of my indoctrination”. as it is with all religions, though maybe it’s more relevant to Muslims than others?. No original thought there for them.. Mind programming and ego identification at work, thus the terror.. The nature and content of that indoctrination determines the result and the terror will continue until it is drastically changed.
The secular State is also seen as a great threat by all monotheistic religions, yet it may be the only way Humanity can be saved in the long term.
Mirren10 says
”Too many people are thanking an imaginary god for Pamela Geller. Just as too many Muslims are perpetrating terror in the name of their god Allah.”
Are you really trying to suggest there is any similarity between Christians thanking God for people like Pamela Geller, Jews thanking Jehovah for Pamela Geller, and mohammedan jihadists *murdering* people in the name of ‘allah’ ??
That is just ridiculous, and a witless, and boringly frequent attempt at moral equivalency. There is simply no comparison. Who would you rather be a room with; a Christian who thanks God for Pamela, a Jew who thanks Jehovah, or a mohammedan jihadi who thinks he/she has the right to murder you for being an unbeliever ? Do try to cultivate some logic and common sense.
”When will the World wake up that all this rivalry among the different monotheistic religo-ideologies will destroy Humanity if it continues”
More witless moral equivalency crap. In case you haven’t noticed, the **only** ‘monotheistic’ religion that is happily destroying other human beings in the name of it’s ‘god’, is **islam**. Where are all the Christian suicide bombers, beheaders, crucifiers, rapists, et al ? Where are the Jewish ditto ? Nowhere to be found.
” It’s past time all monotheists asked” Why do I believe what I believe?” …..then “Why should I believe that?” [& Do they really also believe a creator god is out there somewhere in space and has been there for more than 14 billion years?] ”
If you’re going to write drivel about ‘monotheistic’ religions, and what their adherents believe, and suggest they are brainwashed and indoctrinated, then you need to do some reading about the concept of textual and religious criticism within the Christian Church, and within Judaism. Christians are encouraged to ask questions about, and criticise their faith. They are encouraged to criticise and interpret the Bible, and question other’s interpretations. And when they do, **no-one punishes them for it.** Jews have a long, historic tradition of study and interpretation , and criticism of the Talmud and Torah, and again, ** no-one murders, or threatens to murder them for it.**
mohammedans are actively **discouraged** from questioning anything in the koran or sira,, or criticising it. Indeed, any such criticism or questioning will earn them death threats, and many have been outright murdered. **No** mohammedan is allowed to question the tenets of islam, or interpret the koran any differently from what they are told by the imams, the various schools of Islamic law, etc.
If you don’t know these elementary facts, then you need to do some serious reading and thinking, before exposing yourself as a shallow fool.
‘The secular State is also seen as a great threat by all monotheistic religions, yet it may be the only way Humanity can be saved in the long term.”
More ridiculous sweeping generalisation. The only monotheistic religion that sees the secular state as a threat, is islam, because in islam, **there is no separation of church and state**, as there is in Christianity, and equally in Judaism. In islam, islam is the state, and sharia is the law.
Western civilisations have *long* separated Church and state. There is no koranic equivalent to Christ’s admonition to ”render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar’s, and render unto God, that which is God’s”.
Your post is one of the silliest, and ill-informed, I’ve seen in a long time.
Mo says
@ Mirren10
Thank you for saving me a post! I had not seen this comment by Kasey until now. I have nothing to add to what you’ve said, since you covered all the points most effectively.
Let’s see if Kasey responds with anything of substance. (I think we know the answer to that!)
Angemon says
That was devastating, Mirren 😀
somehistory says
I too, thank you! Well said.
If he (Kasey) were *honest,* he would admit to himself, if not to us, exactly Why he came to read and post on Jihad Watch. I don’t presume to speak for his reasons for what he believes and does as he presumed to speak for ours.
somehistory says
BTW: I am not Jewish, but I am a follower of Christ, hoping that He sees me as Christian, and one who thanks Jehovah.
pongidae rex says
The First Article of the Bill of Rights to the US Constitution guarantees unbridled freedom of speech, freedom of expression and freedom of assembly. It it the First Article for a reason, because it is the cornerstone of our civilization. It is no accident that Islamists and their sympathizers are attacking this constitutional guarantee of free speech. You cannot defeat a threat to your freedom if you are denied the freedom to openly discuss it. WIthout freedom of speech and expression, the entire edifice of the US Constitution collapses.
Unconditional freedom of speech and expression is non-negotiable. 1.7 Billion Muslims can be deluded and mistaken on this issue. Any person who would weaken this fundamental right is no friend of the US if they are a non-citizen, and a treasonous agent of a foreign agenda if they are a citizen.
Blitz2b says
Brian Hoff says “……Stand with the Prophet wasnot about ending free speech….”
Brian, I am puzzled. What exactly did your prophet stand for that would even remotely suggest any kind of freedom?
What ludicrous justification are Muslims spinning to create a platform with that title? It’s absolutely oxymoronic.
From Islamic sources we know that Mohammed was a terrible human being. He traded slaves, and was a slave owner himself, he condoned killing, of infidels and those who disagreed with him. He ordered the beheading of 800-900 Jewish men and boys. So with what face can you ” stand with” your murderous prophet?
Shame on you lying idiots!
Good work Pam & Robert… Islam must and WILL be defeated.
Richard C Brown says
“end Human bankruptcy”an idea whose time has come.If, not Now ; When ? Je suis learnercurious1 American Stand for Freedom of Speech.Stand Up for America join Act for America.
Support Pam Geller and Robert Spencer in the battle for a Free America.
Proud White Infidel Woman says
How can I help?! I am in Little Rock Arkansas. (mods you have my email so you can send me any info you want!!!)
Mulakush says
Islam is Haram.
mortimer says
Islam has nothing to do with Islam.
Jae M says
Kudos for Robert and Pamela! They are actually DOING something that we can participate in to show what the people feel about Sharia. I wish there were a hundred thousand there to speak out.
OMEGA2 says
Thank you to the folks who stood tall in Garland Texas against these HATEFULL RACIST’S BIGGOTS OF MUSLIMS wishing to THWART OUR CONSTITUTION FOR THEIR SHERIA LAW OF DEATH AND SLAVERY AND WOMEN MUTILATION! Feel honored in being called ISLAMOPHOMIC as it is a BADGE OF HONOR FOR ALL TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS who love FREEDOM not SLAVERY! STAND TALL AMERICA AND LETS TOGETHER ERADICATE THIS CURSE OUT OF OUR COUNTRY NOW! HELP THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE THE FOLKS ABOUT THIS RADICAL CRAP! REMEMBER OUR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO ARE BEING KILLED ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR NOT BEING ISLAMIC MINDED! IT IS COMING HERE UNLESS WE ACT NOW AND STOP IT COLD! GO AFTER CONGRESS TO ENACT LAWS THAT SHERIA LAW CANNOT EVER BE USED IN THIS COUNTRY SUBVERYTING OUR LAWS! ATTACK THIS SLIME WHEREVER IT RAISES ITS UGLY HEAD INCLUDING THE PERVAYORS OF THIS CRAP!
Dave J says
All religion is crap and serves only to divide Humanity into in-groups and out-groups who then vilify and attack each other. The alternative of rationality and science is making some progress but there are billions who remain as hypnotized prisoners, believing in their fairy tales while opposing the fairy tales of others.
Ross says
Here’s one for you:
If the earth was covered in water when Noah built his arc, where did all the water go?
Here’s another:
All these books were written by people who thought the world was flat. Apparently their God only imparted knowledge on a need to know basis.
Ray says
ROSS you need to read this
Isaiah 40:22 says:He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to …. for the earth is spherical or globular: not a flat plain, but round, hung as a ball in … Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.
Dexter Wilson says
Ever heard of the Pangaea? The Platelts made room for the water. The Bible even explains when there was no longer a Pangaea, when the continents moved away from each other.
Mo says
@ Dave J
“All religion is crap and serves only to divide Humanity into in-groups and out-groups who then vilify and attack each other.”
You mean like you’re doing here?
Which religions have you examined and upon what basis did you conclude they’re crap?
Anything to say on this story? Or just dividing humanity into your in-group / out-group based on your anti-religious bigotry?
CatRUs says
I don’t understand why these atheists folks think they are immune from the barbarity and slaughter of islam – the non-believers – per the koran – are to be killed straightaway! The so-called People of the Book in the koran- (which I disagree with being called that) are to be given a chance to pay the jidza, convert or be murdered. So I think these atheists folks would be better served to ally themselves with us Jews, Christians, apostates, hypocrites and gay folks – all of whom are listed in Mohamm’s murder book – I think that pretty much includes ALL FREE PEOPLE! Not facing this reality of we are in the murder book of islam is plain foolish. There is no reason to insult us. The time is for ALLIES – not to be bitter critics of people who all wish to live in
freedom.
Mo says
@ CatRUs
“I don’t understand why these atheists folks think they are immune from the barbarity and slaughter of islam – the non-believers – per the koran – are to be killed straightaway! The so-called People of the Book in the koran- (which I disagree with being called that) are to be given a chance to pay the jidza, convert or be murdered. So I think these atheists folks would be better served to ally themselves with us Jews, Christians, apostates, hypocrites and gay folks – all of whom are listed in Mohamm’s murder book – I think that pretty much includes ALL FREE PEOPLE! Not facing this reality of we are in the murder book of islam is plain foolish. There is no reason to insult us. The time is for ALLIES – not to be bitter critics of people who all wish to live in freedom.”
I agree wholeheartedly with all you’ve said here. I can’t figure it out either. (Some atheists don’t behave that way, so that’s good!)
But for some, their hatred of anything remotely smacking of religion is so intense that they can’t seem to help themselves.I guess they’d literally rather die than stand with Christians or people of other religions against the threat of Islam? I really couldn’t tell you. When it comes to how various types of people respond to Islam, it seems so many of them lose all common sense and rationality. It really is an odd psychological phenomenon to observe. I certainly don’t have the knowledge/training to make much sense of it.
What I do know is that when it comes to Islam, we are all in the same boat. We don’t have to agree on everything in the world. We don’t even have to necessarily like each other. But if we don’t stick together, we waste valuable time fighting each other instead of the common enemy of Islam.
Mirren10 says
”All religion is crap and serves only to divide Humanity into in-groups and out-groups who then vilify and attack each other.”
The only religion which is vilifying and attacking others, is islam.
You’re certainly entitled to your opinion that ‘all religion is crap”, but not entitled to imply that any other religion other than islam is murdering, raping, torturing and beheading people in the name of their religion.
So take your witless attempts at moral equivalency elsewhere. It’s tiresome, and flies in the face of the facts and the evidence.
mortimer says
‘all religion is crap’ is in itself a statement of faith, thereby it is self-refuting.
mortimer says
Dave,
Your critique is beside the point. The problem is this: Islam is the only religion that makes every believer a potential terrorist.
Sharia permits the murder of anyone who verbally opposes Islam, since they are at war with Islam:
“There is no indemnity obligatory for killing a non-Muslim (harbi) at war with Muslims.” -Reliance of the Traveller, o4.17, p.593
Dexter L. Wilson says
The Bible, with the Hebrew Old Testament Text and the original Greek New Testament do things that no other religious text of any other World Religion does; demonstrating that only the Creator could have, through 44 inspired writers, written this book. The scribes who copied the original Hebrew Old Testament text copied carefully every letter, jot and tittle. As they read the copied text, if a single letter, jot, or tittle mistake was made, they would destroy all that had been written and start over.
Ivan Panin, a Harvard Hebrew, Greek, and Mathematical Scholar researched the numerical values of the Hebrew and Greek letters. He sent 43,000 pages of numerical research to the Nobel Research Committee in 1900, and they could not refute the fact that God through 44 inspired writers wrote the Bible.
Del Washburn has written two books expanding on the numerical values, “Theomatics” and “Theomatics II”. (See http://www.biblecode.com ).
The most amazing proof that the Creator of the Universe wrote the Bible through the inspired men of God is the Equidistant Letter Sequences. The NSA tried to duplicate such coding and failed. Harold Gans, the lead code breaker for the NSA, before he died, satisfied himself that God wrote the Bible, by using a mathematical formula to determine the probabilities involved in creating codes throughout the surface text of the Old Testament (www.biblecodedigest.com ). Through the code, the multitude of information reads like yesterdays news–you must know the names, events, persons involved, locations, and/or the dates. For this reason it can not be used prophetically.
In Ezekiel 36′ 25″-27″ it describes God’s way of salvation–“I will remove your stoney heart and give you a heart of flesh (being born again and receiving Jesus as your Savior), I will sprinkle you with water and make you clean (water baptism), and put my Spirit in you to cause you to walk in my laws and statutes (receiving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit).
The Bible is the Manufacturer’s Handbook for Planet Earth!
Post Scripts
Sources: “His Name is Jesus”, “The Genesis Factor”, “The Signature of God”, “The Writings of God”, “The Mysterious Bible Codes” (book and DVD’s), “Cracking the Bible Code”, “Bible Code Bombshell”, “The Torah Codes and Israel Today”, Computorah/The Bible Code I, II, &III, bibleprobe.com/jesuscode.htm, “Yeshua”, “Jesus Is My Name” , http://www.biblecodedigest.com, http://www.biblecode.com and there are so many more.
Ivan Panin corrected an Exhaustive Bible Concordance using what he called the Bible Numerics. He said if there were 2 words found in the Greek New Testament in a sentence and you wanted to know which word to use, the word that harmonized with the sentence numerically was the correct word. He provided a Greek Numeric New Testament. Example of Bible Numerics: In the first sentence in the Old Testament, Genesis 1’1″, every verb is divisible by 7, every noun, and more; there are over 34 features of the number 7 in just this one sentence and these type features are consistent throughout the Bible.
Just a few of the codes found: Hitler, Holocaust, Eichmann, Fuhrer, Meinkampf, Berlin, Germany, Belson, King of the Nazis, Crematoria for my Sons, (for statistical purposes only-there are more) 66 names of Rabbis-the cities in which they lived-dates of death, Anwar Sadat-1981-parade-shot-gunfire-Chaled (his assassin), Yitzchak Rabin-Israel-will be murdered-date born-date of death-location of the assassination-assassin’s name-Oslo Peace Process, both Wars in the Gulf, George Bush, Saddam Hussein-America Schwarzkopf-the missiles will terrify-Scud B-they shut the door-3rd of Shavat-empty the gas, Murrah Building-Tim-McVeigh-slaughter-desolate, (in Genesis 38′) all the ancestors of King David, (in Genesis)25 trees are named, (between Isaiah 52′ and 55′) Behold the Blood of Jesus-Let Him Be Crucified-Mary-Joseph-Jesus is my Name-all the disciples names-Nazarene-Messiah-Shiloh-Passover-Galilee-Herod-Annas-Caiaphas-Caesar-The evil Roman City, (in Zechariah 9’13”)Jesus, (in Zachariah 11’13”)Jesus, (in Daniel 9’26”) The Peace Offering, (in Micah 5’1-2″ Mary, Joseph, and Jesus(Yeshua),(in Matthew 24’7 through 48″) Jesus-Nazareth-Mercy-Lamb, (in Mark 8’9″ through Mark 9’2″) Jesus- Blood-Son-Innocent-Lamb, (in John 5’5″-13″) Jesus-Nazareth-Lamb, the name of the person most responsible for all the satellites circling the Earth and their names—–and on and on and on and on. I don’t think all of the codes will be found. Who knows, the Old Testament in the original Hebrew may have the list of those whose names are written in the BOOK OF LIFE.
Champ says
Dave J,
Please order this book written by Robert Spencer:
“Religion of Peace?: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t”
Christianity or Islam: which is the real “religion of peace”?
Almost any liberal pundit will tell you that there’s a religion bent on destroying our Constitution, stripping us of our liberties, and imposing religious rule on the U.S. And that religion is . . .Christianity! About Islam, however, the Left is silent–except to claim a moral equivalence between the two: if Islam has terrorists today, that’s nothing compared to the Crusades, inquisitions, and religious wars in Christianity’s past.
But is this true? Are conservative Christians really more of a threat to free societies than Islamic jihadists? Is the Bible really “just as violent” as the Qur’an? Is Christianity’s history really as bloodstained as Islam’s? In Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t, New York Times bestselling author Robert Spencer not only refutes such charges, but also explains why Americans and Europeans must regain an appreciation of our Christian heritage if we ever hope to defeat Islamic supremacism. In this eye opening work, Spencer reveals:
* The fundamental differences between Islamic and Christian teachings about warfare against other religions: “Love your enemies” vs. “Be ruthless to the unbelievers”
* The myth of Western immorality and Islamic puritanism and why the Islamic world is less moral than the West
* Why the Islamic world has never developed the distinction between religious and secular law that is inherent in Christianity
* Why Christianity has always embraced reason–and Islam has always rejected it
* Why the most determined enemies of Western civilization may not be the jihadists at all, but the leftists who fear their churchgoing neighbors more than Islamic terrorists
* Why Jews, Christians, and peoples of other faiths (or no faith) are equally at risk from militant Islam
Spencer writes not to proselytize, but to state a fact: Christianity is a true “religion of peace,” and on it Western civilization stands. If we are not to perish under Islam’s religion of the sword–with its more than 100 million active jihadists seeking to impose sharia law–we had better defend our own civilization.
http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Peace-Christianity-Islam-Isnt/dp/1596985151
A must read!
Geppetto says
The west is at a critical tipping point. The awful truths about militant Islam and its fervent followers are slowly and painfully being ripped from the mouths of those who know the truth but have refused so far to acknowledge it. Whether this snowball grows into a much needed avalanche will unfortunately depend on those agencies that dominate public discourse; broadcast and print media, academia, the entertainment industry and the so called political “leadership.” What might be the catalyst required to overcome what is dangerous, irresponsible nonsense, wrapped in lofty rhetoric, are more demonstrations like these by ordinary citizens fed up with the politically correct, multicultural, intellectually inspired tripe designed to teach us all how to think like the tenured, college professors and political hacks do; out of the box. Unfortunately the vast majority of the human race don’t live in their cloistered box and the real world is a much nastier place than any of us would choose……if we had a choice. But we do have a choice and if we want to acquire it we will have to fight and many likely die for it. Militant Islamists are intent on subjugating those who remain after they’ve murdered all the rest…….in the name of Allah of course. The west cannot let that happen. It’s time, long overdue, for the west to reverse the damage caused by excessive, unrealistic idealism.
Victor Davis Hanson on “The War on Human Nature.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/364828/war-human-nature-victor-davis-hansonictor
mortimer says
Geppetto,
We are watching the snowball growing now. Many people are having it sink in.
somehistory says
Looking for the *Don’t Mess With Texas* signage. When I lived in the State, they were everywhere.
Texas: A whole other country.
Anon says
There were quite a few loud motorcycles at the rally driving around, I only hope that the noise rattled somebody’s cage inside the actual “conference”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=787YVQJljXE
Remember, JW is probably the FBI’s favorite blog to monitor, i.e monitoring the reporting of Islamic violence, not the perpetrators.
Hello Mr. FBI agent!
#noitimidation_zz
FarmerMike says
Quite right, Geppetto. “The west is at a tipping point.” This blog that Robert has launched 10 yrs ago, and the marches in Texas & Germany & France, are part of what must become a general defense of the West, & its rationalism & humanitarianism. The lines have been drawn. This is the new battle of Tours, against a religion of hate.We MUST take a stand.
More, we have the beginnings of a wonderful discussion now going on about who we are as humans, and what we can choose to do with what we think, & perhaps know, and can possibly choose. We have the intellectual ferment of a new Renaissance bubbling around us.
I question all religions, & have studied some. And I see them as attempts to bring coherence to our lives, and direction, & purpose. I welcome further discussions & questionings of these views.
I am particularly drawn to the studies and analysis of the ancient Sumerian clay tablets by biblical scholar Zecharia Sitchin as presented in his several recent books.
But I pause here to recall the advice George Washington gave to his colleagues who–before the American Revolutionary War had yet been won– began speculating about the possible nature of the future American government.
“First, lick the British,” said the practical Washington.
Similarly, we must first halt the Islamic invasion & domination of the West.
Ming the Merciless says
Dont forget the 2,000 women children and elders murdered the same day in NIgeria by muslims…one even a woman giving birth to a baby…only nuclear war can cure that muslim cancer