This story is an interesting example of how the mainstream media tries to obscure and downplay the nature and magnitude of the global jihad, and particularly to deny its Islamic character. We’re told that Man Haron Monis gave a lecture to a “packed prayer hall in Western Sydney.” Yet we’re also told that he was a “fake sheik” and that “despite styling himself as a learned spiritual Islamic leader, Monis could not answer simple questions about the religion or its texts when quizzed by Sydney Muslims.” Why was a “fake sheik” who couldn’t answer basic questions about Islam allowed to give a lecture at a Sydney mosque, and why was he able to pack the house? The contradictions in this story are obvious, and reveal the media bias and anxiety to exonerate Islam for any responsibility for the actions of Man Haron Monis.
“Taped Granville lectures give glimpse inside the crazed mind of Sydney terrorist Man Haron Monis,” by Taylor Auerbach, The Daily Telegraph, January 2, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
MARTIN Place terrorist Man Haron Monis delivered a chilling lecture decrying religions other than Islam and calling for an “Islamic society” to a packed prayer hall in Western Sydney.
The fake sheik — speaking in parables littered with violent references — called for Islamic justice and for a caliphate with one religion.
The tapes were recorded in 2009, the same year Monis dropped off the national security watch list amid a string of stunning lapses before last month’s siege during which he held 18 Lindt cafe workers and customers hostage.
Years before the Martin Place attack which left cafe manager Tori Johnson and barrister Katrina Dawson dead, Monis taunted foreign governments who allowed criminals to carry out acts of violence, sneering “your intelligence service is not working properly.”
“If you are not aware that there is criminal activity happening in your county, leave the position that you have. You are incompetent,” he declared.
In fist thumping speech, translated for The Daily Telegraph by a Farsi interpreter, Monis, who concentrated on war in Afghanistan, said: “Society should behave in an Islamic manner.”
He gave the audience exercises to “explore meaning” to be gauged on what he called the “Islamo-meter.”
“Please try the device which is like an Islamo-meter, and do some exercises. And then in the future everybody tries this with the map of the world and then on the map they use the Islamo-meter for each country and then they can check with the two sheet of justice-meter and performance-meter on them and try them,” he said.
“And then they can write the outcome of the experiment on the piece of paper and bring here to share their outcomes and we do an exercise.”
In paranoid tones, Monis made bizarre claims that strict Muslims faced the greatest danger of death from moderate members of their own religion.
The lengthy, and often heated, tirades call for greater Muslim influence in Australia and seem to espouse the virtues of Sharia law.
“The core of an Islamic society is justice, social justice,” Monis said.
“Society should behave in an Islamic manner and there should be justice.”
Disturbingly, Monis wailed about the importance of monitoring “friends” who blended into society before unleashing evil.
“An ignorant friend is worse than an enemy, why? Because you are always are cautious of your enemy,” he said.
“An enemy would bluntly claim that they are the enemy. An ignorant friend claims that they are friends and they approach you, you would socialise with them and associate with them, but one day like a bear, they lift a big stone and they hit it to the face of that person and kills him.”
He lashed out at people claiming “Islam is in jeopardy” and added “those are the people that are dangerous.”
Monis used a parable of violence in the animal kingdom to call on Afghans to “in action not by word … show that the lion is not the king of the jungle.”
He urged those present to use a religious occasion as “the day to say no to the idea of having more than one God.
“Yesterday they used to say that the power who controls the world in Britain, and today they say it is Russia and China and America. No, Koran says that the God is the controlling power of the world, and the determinant of the fate of any nation is that nation itself. peace be upon Mohammad.”
“He added: “you have to stand up and say no to polytheism.”
The spine-tingling revelations came as former friends helped paint a frightening portrait of the Lindt Café gunman.
They said Monis planned to establish a political party called Hezbollah Australia and once converted a large Campsie warehouse into a prayer hall where Muslim leaders issued Fatwas.
“He never said where his money came from, he was mysterious,” said refugee advocate Jamal Daoud.
“He seemed to infiltrate everyone, Sunni and Shia. He knew a lot about everybody, they knew nothing about him.
“This was high professionalism.”
Mr Daoud said Monis attended a number of mosques in Sydney, including the Nabi Akram Islamic Center, in Granville, where his religious lectures were delivered.
“He spoke in a slow, low-pitched voice. He never argued with you. He was a very good listener, he’d listen for two hours if you wanted to speak.
“Everyone that met him thought he wasn’t stupid, he’s intelligent.”
Monis also took out front page advertisements with the Australian Muslim newspaper Crescent Times, pointing readers to his “sheik Haron” website.
Despite styling himself as a learned spiritual Islamic leader, Monis could not answer simple questions about the religion or its texts when quizzed by Sydney Muslims[.]
Interesting that no source is given for that claim.
Salah says
“Monis could not answer simple questions about the religion or its texts when quizzed by Sydney Muslims.”
If that makes of him a fake sheikh, it would certainly make of Robert Spencer a good one!!!
Huck Folder says
I Googled that: “Monis could not answer simple questions about the religion or its texts when quizzed by Sydney Muslims.” and got just three hits, but no answers.
I would like to know from Taylor Auerbach, who wrote the article – who said what, when?
I would like to know WHO asked WHAT exact questions, WHEN, and WHERE, and the setting and context, then the ANSWERS offered, and where they were wrong, if not obvious. If The Man said that “islam is, (or needs to be) warlike”, and that upset the taqiyya mindset of the fifth column questioner, I would not describe that as ‘could not answer’.
And in a parody of The Man’s islamometer, I would offer the anodynanometer™ to register the dumbing down, obfuscation and taqiyya of the sinislam crowds – the leftard/socialist enablers and their objet d’amour the jihadists.
Hell, what about using a general phobiometer set to its ‘islam’ scale? I’m sure all the islamist Nobel Prize winners could come up with something like that. They could be led by Canada’s own (non-Nobel) electronic genius from Waterloo University, and all-round antisemite, Mohamed ‘kill all 18-year-old Israelis’ Elmasry.
Salah says
“In paranoid tones, Monis made bizarre claims that strict Muslims faced the greatest danger of death from moderate members of their own religion.”
I couldn’t agree more; “moderate” Muslims are waking up, they are gradually discovering that “strict” Muslims have been lying about Islam for over 14 centuries. Slowly but surely the day of TOTAL REVENGE is coming, and “strict” Muslims will indeed face the greatest danger ever.
No Fear says
Another outbreak of “mental illness”. There is so much of it about nowadays.
Angemon says
Such as?
duh_swami says
Quizzed…’What is the name of Mohammad’s mother’?…Uhhhh, Janet?
media lies to deny us the truth says
We are fed lies from the media about him being “a lone wolf” despite the FACT that he associated with Hizb ut-Tahrir terrorists IN Australia. How can he be a “lone wolf” if he was fed his beliefs from people within a terrorist group. Then we have shows like Channel 10’s The Project that explain it all away as being due to the terrorists’s “mental health issues” and the “pressure from the courts”.
So apparently it had nothing to do with Islam despite the fact he demanded an Islamic flag to be sent to the Lindt cafe. I mean, how stupid does the media expect us to be so that they try and make the average punter believe that Islam is just a safe old religion with just a couple of nutters. Will this lie really work? Well the media are still trying it on.
Huck Folder says
#illridewithHizb ut-Tahrir
Rob says
An outburst like that is compelling evidence that he should be removed from the ‘watchlist’ immediately.
Move along. Nothing to see.
gravenimage says
Sydney siege jihadi to packed house at mosque: “Society should behave in an Islamic manner”
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And if it doesn’t behave in an Islamic manner, then pious Muslims should take Infidels hostage and murder them.
God, I hate Islam.
Infidel Aussie says
So many political leaders , media and community leaders in Australia particularly those of leftist persuasion still to this day are denying the Sydney siege was an act of terrorism and claiming it had nothing to do with Islam. Many still deny ISIS, The Taliban, al Qaeda or Boko Harem has any connection to Islam, deny 9/11,The London Bombings or Bali had anything to do with Islam. The fact all members of these organisations and those who perpetrated the attacks are all muslim is entirely co incidental according to these denialists
To those who don’t know Australia has a relatively small Muslim population around 2.5% but fast growing who wield a influence disproportionate to their size. This I put down in part to their activism painting themselves as a persecuted ‘under class’ winning the support of soft hearted politically correct left wingers while others rightly see them as a threat but wrongly believe appeasement is the best way to head off any aggression. What we are witnessing in Australia like everywhere else around the world is the more we give into muslims ,the more concessions we make ,only means the more they want
Mike says
That figure of 2.5% is very misleading. The figures quoted should be for age groups 1-15 and 16-30. These figures would be way higher than 2.5% and give a much more realistic indication of muslim population growth in Australia. I believe in some parts of Europe 1in 3 births are now muslim, a truly scarey figure
dumbledoresarmy says
Something most people don’t realize is that *Buddhism*, not Islam, is the fastest-growing religious group in Australia.
And something else most people don’t realize, is that if you put together all the Hindus and Buddhists in Australia, there are actually more of them than there are Muslims.
And I wouldn’t assume that Muslims are necessarily ‘cornering’ the younger generation. Common or garden standard-issue non-Muslim Aussies are still making babies…as I can see with my own eyes every time I go to the local shopping centre or mega-mall, where I see decidedly-non-Muslim mamas-with-kids-in-tow and mamas-to-be every day of the week.
The demographic group with *the* highest birthrate and youngest demographic, in Australia, are not the Muslims but the Australian Aborigines; and although there are those in the counter jihad in Australia who seem to assume that all our aborigines will convert to Islam, I personally think that opinion betrays a degree of paranoia that borders on silliness; there are a *lot* of aborigines who are very solid Christians and many others who are firmly attached to major aspects of traditional culture – notably music and visual arts – that would make them reluctant to embrace sharia Islam. I would however suggest that the counter jihad in Australia *needs*, quickly, to make contact with Aboriginal Christians, especially with groups like the AEF and AIM (Aboriginal Evangelical Fellowship and Aborigines Inland Mission) in order to warn them about Muslim dawa and what it actually involves…so they can warn their fellows that Islam is like a lobster trap, you get in but they will kill you if you decide you want out.
Tommy Guns says
“Society should behave in an Islamic manner.” Ha Ha Ha!!!! I didn’t know muslims HAD manners. They sure don’t have manners in Western Europe!!!!
El says
Australia suffers from institutional mental illness. It is barely better than the UK, in terms of absurd laws and political correctness. A recent article has said former IS fighters are returning due to a legal loophole. [http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/australian-death-cult-jihadists-who-fought-with-islamic-state-in-syria-return-to-roam-our-streets/story-fni0cx12-1227172123858 ]. Lucky there are so few, if Australia had the percentages of France then the situation would be a disaster.
Joginder Singh says
“Society should behave in an islamic manner” er no islam should behave in a civilised 21st century western manner or go back to the east and the uncivilised 7th century
Own Your Work says
Why doesn’t the article name the mosque? (was it Al Noor Mosque, which wants to build a $4.5 million school? I guess being tied to Monis could kind of complicate that now) The mosque should be named, so that they can be revealed for who they are. No one lets a complete outsider in to preach. Man Haron Monis was allowed to preach there because they knew who he was and agreed with what he was going to say. The mosque deserves to wear the shame of being associated with him, since they helped incubate and support him, and spread his views.
the vilest of creatures says
Just wonderin how that ‘BACKLASH’ is progressing in Australia in the wake of the much needed #illridewithyou Twitter campaign…..
Bet the Muslim bodies are just piling up in the streets at the hands of all those bloodthirsty right wing ‘backlashers’ that take to the streets every time there is yet another jihadist attack. Thank goodness we have all those brave liberals protecting those poor innocent Muslims.
Julius O'Malley says
The anti-Islam backlash has been huge and ferocious. A six year old boy pointed to a woman wearing a burkini at a Sydney beach and asked his parents about the attire. Burkini-wearer was outraged by being pointed at and has demanded the police charge the boy for committing hate crime. Though not independently corroborated, a Muslim man wearing a djellaba was looked at askance by another patron at a fish and chip shop. The police are looking into charging the patron, but are having trouble finding what law he may have broken.
In a Max Brenner chocolate cafe, a couple got up and left their table just as a Muslim man in religious garb walked in. After several hours of separate interrogation the police accepted the couple’s explanation that they had suddenly realized that their parking meter had expired and left abruptly only to avoid a parking fine. The couple have also publicly apologized to the Muslim man for any offence they had caused and have promised to pay his legal fees at his next criminal trial so he doesn’t have to rely on a low-quality public defender as he had to in his last five criminal trials.
Jae M says
‘ “No, Koran says that the God is the controlling power of the world, and the determinant of the fate of any nation is that nation itself. peace be upon Mohammad.”’
Actually, the bible says that Satan is the controlling power of the world until Christ returns to defeat him. I hope they realize who they are really worshiping.