They’re demanding that Clint Eastwood and Bradley Cooper denounce “any violent, anti-Muslim rhetoric, including that which has been attributed to viewers” of “American Sniper.” Attributed by whom, and to what degree is the attribution genuine?
This is how the Leftist media tries to hijack the narrative and fool people into ignorance and complacency about the jihad threat. Islamic jihadis just murdered twelve people who published Muhammad cartoons. Other Islamic jihadists have attempted to murder and plotted to murder other people who drew cartoons of Muhammad. I myself just got another death threat the other day for publishing the Muhammad cartoons here — but while these alleged (and quite dubious) threats are getting international media coverage, much more credible death threats against foes of jihad terror are not newsworthy.
Meanwhile, how many Muslims have actually been physically attacked or killed because of “American Sniper”? None. How likely is it that any will be? Extremely unlikely. This claim, and the demand made of Eastwood and Cooper, is part of the larger effort by Leftist and Islamic supremacist groups to exaggerate a violent threat from “right-wing extremists” whom they portray as equivalent to jihad terrorists, so as to buttress their claim that “there are extremists of all religions” — which is designed to deflect attention away from how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and supremacism.
So what is Vox trying to do here? Obscure the reality of the jihad threat, as the mainstream media always does.
“American Sniper film ‘behind rise in anti-Muslim threats,'” BBC, January 25, 2015:
The release of the film American Sniper has led to an increase in threats against Muslims in the US, according to an Arab-American civil rights group.
The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) has written to director Clint Eastwood and star Bradley Cooper.
Their film is based on US soldier Chris Kyle’s service in Iraq from 2003-09.
The ADC said a “majority of the violent threats we have seen over the past few days are result of how Arab and Muslims are depicted in American Sniper”.
The organisation, which describes itself as the largest Arab civil rights organisation in the US, said it had collected “hundreds of violent messages targeting Arab and Muslim Americans from movie-goers”, mainly from Facebook and Twitter.
The letter asked Eastwood and Cooper to speak out against such messages “in an effort to reduce the hateful rhetoric”.
“Your visibility, influence, and connection to the film would be a tremendous force in drawing attention to and lessening the serious dangers facing the respective communities,” ADC president Samer Khalaf wrote.
Jack Horner, a spokesman for the Warner Bros film studio, which released the film, told the Reuters news agency that the company “denounces any violent, anti-Muslim rhetoric, including that which has been attributed to viewers” of the film.
He added: “Hate and bigotry have no place in the important dialogue that this picture has generated about the veteran experience.”
Spokespeople for Eastwood and Cooper had no immediate response to requests for comment, Reuters news agency reported….
thomas pellow says
‘Breitbart, Big Hollywood’-
“BOX OFFICE: ‘AMERICAN SNIPER’ CRUSHES MORE RECORDS; DEPP DIES, ‘SELMA’ SINKS”
[Excerpt]:-
“Man alive, if you thought the Left was bitterly angry last week over the success of a film that portrays the War On Terror as a righteous cause, wait until they get a load of this weekend’s box office. “American Sniper” doesn’t just have legs, it has a concrete pedestal that even Leftist Kryptonite can’t crumble.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/01/24/box-office-american-sniper-crushes-more-records-depp-dies-selma-sinks/
Shane says
The traitorous liberal MSM is always trying to give cover to Muslims for the deeds of Muslim terrorists, and to take the public’s attention away from horrible Muslim terrorist acts like Fort Hood, the Boston Marathon massacre, and the Paris jihad attack. The fact is that Jews are victims of hate crimes more than Muslims are in North America and Europe. Jew-hatred is in the Koran, as Pamela Gellar has stated many times.
Jaladhi says
Liars are out in full force against a non-existing events (i.e., threats against Muslims) and want to create the situation for the producers of the movie to apologize and maybe even ask for ban on the movie!!
vox populi says
BBC : the offical channel of the only european country putting flags at mid mast in sign of modern submission.
I wonder what Richard the Lionheart would say about all this … without him, most parts of Southern Europe would be under a caliphate, today.
Mohamadamadingdong says
Wrong. The 4th crusade sacked Constantinople and greatly weakened Byzantium which was finally destroyed by the donkey faced Turks. The Austrians, Hungarians, Poles, Serbs and Greeks eventually kicked their asses out of Europe. The only remaining Turkish bastion left is the back stabbing Albanians.
Thanks to the piece of crap Bill Clinton and Madaline Notbright they were saved from Serbia in their takeover of Kosovo. I hate our politicians.
Angemon says
Is that so? Well, I’ve collected plenty of violent messages and death threats from muslims and I don’t see any “muslim civil rights” group stepping in to tell muslims that there’s nothing wrong with criticizing islam and quoting ahadith. And I doubt that these are the first threating messages directed at arabs and/or muslims ever. What surprises me is that it took so long for this kind of allegation to appear. People in a specific political spectrum have a deadly allergy to anything patriotic and will resort to all and any means to nip them in the bud.
“The ADC said a “majority of the violent threats we have seen over the past few days are result of how Arab and Muslims are depicted in American Sniper”.”
Are they? I, for one, would like to see evidence to back this statement.
Peggy says
If any Muslims are targeted it will be because of what they are doing not a movie.
They should stop the violence and mass murder and they won’t get targeted.
What do they want? Do they want us to sit back and just be let like lambs to slaughter without any resistance?
EYESOPEN says
Yes.
jewdog says
This reminds me of a film that was made a few years back about a Rabbi who traveled around performing circumcisions – a mohel. Coincidentally, it was called “American Snipper”. Apparently, the Rabbi in the movie was something of a fanatic who hated uncircumsized males, whom he referred to with scurrillous disdain, using all kinds of epithets. As a result, it was reported that uncircumcised men were afraid to use public toilets without looking over their shoulders (Clippophobia), some had even developed sexual problems, and some non-Jewish organizations screamed racism. The producers were sued, but they settled out of court by cutting out the film’s header.
katnis says
Hehehehe
Bezelel says
I think that’s what used to be called a skin flick.
MKG says
Snipers terrify the s#it out of them, and it should.
Having not seen the film yet, I already have an oppinion of our enemies. The Jihdis themselves are doing a much better job at portaying their character. Better than any Hollywood libtard can ever dream of. If you muslims really care about your image you might want to be a little more proactive in containing IS and Boko Haram, and start addressing our concerns with something other than whining BS. Until then we will call it as we see it.
Stay safe Mr. Spencer, your work is invaluable. Instead of threatening to kill you, they might want to try and engage uou with dialog. But, they won’t. Your level of knowledge would make them question their own faith. They can’t risk it. It is easier to just eliminate you. Keep your head on a swival Mr. Spancer, that is on your neck. Stay safe.
mortimer says
I just saw this film and highly recommend it. Almost nothing in it about the jihad doctrine, though, but you see how these barbaric savages use children and whole families as human shields and accessories on the front lines.
Clint Eastwood and Bradley Cooper did a superb job presenting the story. Every part of it was treated suspensefully and tastefully. The reasons this man had for defending freedom OVER THERE are clearly stated. We know why these savages want to take away our freedom. We do not want them immigrating to take away our freedom OVER HERE!
We must stop any more of these savages immigrating.
katnis says
I also saw the movie and highly recommend it. The movie was very well done and allows the viewer to understand what Chris Kyle and his family endured. I felt torn at times, naturally feeling sorry for children who were used for dirty work, while at other times, cheering on Chris and what he represents.
Like many good movies, you can draw your own conclusions when watching it. The bigger message for me was not in hearing a call that inspired threatening muslims, but rather a message about how horrible war is for a single human being and the type of sacrifices Chris made to bridge between two worlds – his family life and his dedicated life’s work. The setting is just the reality of today’s world and is the truth to Chris’ life story. There is no need for an apology here.
MKG says
Thank you guys. I will see it…….when the time is right.
Champ says
We saw the movie last week–it’s awesome!!
voegelinian says
I haven’t seen the movie, but it’s not a good sign that Clint Eastwood directed it. Eastwood is a flaming liberal with a manufactured image of being a conservative (mostly from his “Dirty Harry” days). The first signs that he was straying from just having cinematic fun to actually trying to promote a “message” (God help us from post-1950s Hollywood “messages) was his 1990 movie “White Hunter Black Heart” where a white guy on an African safari by the end of the movie has an epiphany that he’s an evil white guy trying to murder animals or something, and of course he repents.
Anyone who has seen Gran Torino (in which an old curmudgeonly white bigot in the span of a few months dissolves into a white liberal who loves Hmong immigrants so much he’s willing to martyr himself like Christ to protect them) and his Letters from Iwo Jima (which basically equates the fanatically mass-murderous Japanese of the 30s and 40s with the Americans) would realize Eastwood’s brain has been infected by PC MC as much as anyone else in, or out, of Hollywood.
I quote from this review of the latter posted on the late Lawrence Auster’s blog:
I saw Letters from Iwo Jima last night. Perhaps the most morally obtuse, despicable film I’ve ever seen… It is the nadir of moral equivalence. Its theme: the Japanese who staged the sneak attack at Pearl Harbor, who fought with fanatical savagery, and who murdered millions of Asian civilians and tens of thousands of Allied POWs, were no worse, and no better, than us.
(More good discussion in this regard at http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/006955.html )
And it’s also not a good sign about “American Sniper” that mortimer gives it his thumb up; mortimer who has previously written in Jihad Watch comments:
“Nonsense. Most Muslims are much nicer and more moral than Mohammed. They believe theoretically, but most do not practice all the things required by Islam. Perhaps 85% of Muslims are non-practicing ‘hypocrites’. Only 15% are observant.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/muslims-protest-against-australia-terror-raids-there-is-anger-in-the-community-we-have-been-victimised-for-years-and-years#comments
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“I haven’t seen the movie, but it’s not a good sign that Clint Eastwood directed it.”
Conservatives seem to love it and liberals seem to hate it, regardless of what you think of Clint Eastwood.
“And it’s also not a good sign about “American Sniper” that mortimer gives it his thumb up”
What about the other JihadWatchers that liked the movie? Would you have a problem if I said I like the movie? What about Philip Jihadski? Or gravenimage?
“mortimer who has previously written in Jihad Watch comments:
“Nonsense. Most Muslims are much nicer and more moral than Mohammed. They believe theoretically, but most do not practice all the things required by Islam. Perhaps 85% of Muslims are non-practicing ‘hypocrites’. Only 15% are observant.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/muslims-protest-against-australia-terror-raids-there-is-anger-in-the-community-we-have-been-victimised-for-years-and-years#comments”
You wrote that there’s no way of verifying what happens to muslim apostates in islamic countries (Oliver’s comment in bold):
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/bbc-virtually-all-muslims-see-violent-jihadism-as-a-perversion-of-islam/comment-page-1#comment-1185820
“voegelinian says
January 24, 2015 at 2:47 pm
“in some Islamic countries if you say you no longer believe, or change religion, you will be ostracised by everyone, and possibly arrested for apostasy. .”
One implication there (and there’s no way of verifying it — and certainly no way to verify specifics about it)”
You also ran away with your tail between your legs when I called your bluff (which I used as an euphemism for “blatant lie”):
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/author-of-islamophobic-french-novel-jihadists-are-bad-muslims/comment-page-2#comment-1172978
Still waiting for the “scores of essays analyzing the problem of Islam and history” in Jihad Watch Watch, a blog you created to attack JW contributors and commentators.
Now, you may not agree with mortimer’s “85-15” split, but he did give his source for it – Daniel Pipes. And you know that very well.
What is not a good sign is saying that you don’t read someone’s posts and then replying to said someone:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/saudi-king-abdullah-is-dead/comment-page-1#comment-1185295
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/islamic-state-executes-women-for-refusing-temporary-marriage/comment-page-1#comment-1186337
Now, why don’t you start by explaining us why you consider mortimer’s approval of the film noteworthy, then show me the “scores of essays” you mentioned and end your dog-and-pony show by admitting you’re wrong about the verifiability of the fate of apostates in islamic countries?
Galen Muhammad says
Since when is defamation and lies considered “valuable?“
Mike says
If the Muslim population in America were under siege as they claim, then Dearborn Michigan would be under heavy attack today. I would venture to say that if they are offended by the presentation of muslim extremists then they themselves must be extreme. If muslims are looking to improve their image then maybe stop the beheading and execution of innocent people would be a good step in the right direction. Nothing say more about you than when you show compassion to others not like you.
katnis says
That’s a good point about Dearborn. Also NYC, Detroit, Philly, Chicago, and other cities would see problems. So far… nothing as happened, and most likely, nothing will happen.
Kieran Pavlick says
I get E-mails from a Muslim I used to work with. These are links to you tube videos one is hate Muslims.
It shows a young man saying that very thing. then a frame is shown of the bible and one of the verses below.. Then another rant and another Bible verse..
It is obvious to guilt people into accepting Islam as a peaceful religion. Reverse psychology.
Christians and Jews are the haters and should be ashamed of them selves, Is the message.
Luke 6:27 ESV “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
Matthew 5:44 ESV / 300 helpful votes
But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
Mirren10 says
”I get E-mails from a Muslim I used to work with.”
I’d change my email address, if I were you. It must be revolting to get an email from a mohammedan . Blech.
Bridget Ames says
Yeah Right, it’s just Muslims trying to play the Victim. They really do not have a leg to stand on. They fuss over comments from others meanwhile Muslims who are following “By the Book” how their war lord Mohammad lived are slaughter hundreds.
Janet says
I agree, I doubt that there are any real threats. Notice there is no evidence of any. It is all hearsay.
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I personally know a person who is peaceful and had good intentions (many Muslims are facing jail time for actually really being involved in terrorism) and talked to a Muslim and the Muslim lied about that person and that person was charged for crimes they did not even commit. The jury even acknowledged that the Muslim was lying. The judge, however, said that just going over to talk to a Muslim is a crime and now that peaceful, well intentioned American has a criminal record.
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There are No Go Zones in states like Minnesota and Michigan. Do not, do not, even talk to a Muslim! It is at your own peril!!
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America is dead! The Constitution and free speech are gone, thanks to Muslims..
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Look at those disgusting radical Muslims in Texas. Instead of standing in solidarity for none violence with France they were protesting free speech!
Salah says
@ Janet
” America is dead! The Constitution and free speech are gone, thanks to Muslims..”
Thanks, Janet. That’s exactly what I’ve been saying on JW for a few years now:
The Old Republic is DEAD. The whole system is rotten. You don’t beat a dead horse; it’s DEAD.
You’ll need to start from scratch. You can do it peaceably or you can do it violently.
The Egyptian people chose the first, what’s your choice?
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-end-of-muslim-brotherhood.html
somehistory says
What movie made about 1400 years ago caused msulims to hate and threaten Jews and Christians? And not just threaten, but to carry out the threats to kill, And what movie was written with the script that said Jews and Christians are most of all to be hated, insulted over and again and called for the extermination of these people who would not submit to islam?
Letters should be written to the makes of the film from 1400 years ago and document within the actual incidents of violence and hatred and murder of those depicted as being only worthy of death.
If I had directed the movie, there would be no apology or any response to this muslim group and their claims of threats. An apology or denouncement of supposed threats wouldn’t work to quell the protests of this group, but would make those muslims believe they had won another round, another skirmish, they would then call for more. Just as the killings of the magazine editors in Paris didn’t stop any muslim rage. Killing isn’t enough. No announcement from Mr. Eastwood or others would do anything but bolster the muslims.
SallyA says
Clint Eastwood will hopefully be smart, seasoned and patriotic enough not to apologize. Who knows about the much younger and less experienced Bradley Cooper, a fine actor who deserves an Oscar for his portrayal of Chris Kyle. Neither has any reason to be other than proud for his part in this excellent film. The final scene evoked a deep sense of why we still believe in being Americans, why our founders forged the Constitution, and why countless people still attempt to relocate here from other lands even more despotic in 2015 than ours is becoming. If only for that final scene of American Sniper, it’s a film worth seeing. Go and experience it, see it a second time, this is a film that may symbolize a defining moment in American freedom: lose it or keep it.
somehistory says
I have seen enough of him in personal interviews to believe that he will not give the muslims what they want. He has a reputation for choosing movies with important messages and moral lessons. He’s also a very fine actor, but of course, that is not necessary to be a man of integrity.
Champ says
…”Bradley Cooper, a fine actor who deserves an Oscar for his portrayal of Chris Kyle.”
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Agreed!
Galen Muhammad says
Thanks for invalidating any post you make regarding Islam!!
You clearly are void of Islamic history knowledge. Why are you even making such comments with so little knowledge on the topic??!!
Begone!!
Angemon says
Galen Muhammad posted:
“You clearly are void of Islamic history knowledge.”
The thing about “islamic history” is that it doesn’t match with, you know, actual history. You might as well call “islamic history” by what it is – propaganda.
Galen Muhammad says
Witty retort on your part, but untrue.
Angemon says
Galen Muhammad posted:
“Witty retort on your part, but untrue.”
Nope. Completely true.
Irony Man says
So true. Contemporary accounts by those of the time Muhammed supposedly lived, and for at least sixty years after his supposed death, have nothing at all to say about Muhammed or the conquering armies of Islam, or indeed, Islam itself. There is just a huge yawning silence. Strangely though, although we know nothing about Muhammed from contemporary sources, if we wait until two hundred years after his death we suddenly find we know everything about him, and everything he did for every hour of his life! Enter the Islamic sources!
Irony Man says
In reality of course, Islam didn’t arrive on the scene until the 8th century and Muhammed didn’t exist at all, as Muhammed was a title which meant ‘the praised one’ and was a reference to Jesus.
Wendy says
Seriously, in the USA there are No Go Zones where if you as much as peacefully talk to a Muslim your rights of free speech are taken from you.
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Look at the polls. The majority of American Muslims are radical. They do not support free speech or the USA Constitution. They do not belong here. They belong in a sharia law country where everyone, including themselves, would be happy.
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Look at the radical Muslims in Texas who instead of showing support for free speech and showing solidarity with France choose to protest free speech!
Galen Muhammad says
And you…..!
Why are you babbling on this topic? You’re also void of knowledge and pertinent facts!
Give us the legitimate, independent poll so that we may view these findings for ourselves …I believe you’ve manufactured an imaginary poll…. URL, please!
The gather you lied about in Texas (no radical Muslims involved) was about decency. Freedom of speech means “freedom to disrespect” for the savages. And that’s what that rag did. There was no purpose behind disrespecting Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him). CORRECTION: There was only evil intend behind the disrespect of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Mirren10 says
galen mohammed says:
”The gather you lied about in Texas (no radical Muslims involved) was about decency. Freedom of speech means “freedom to disrespect” for the savages. And that’s what that rag did. There was no purpose behind disrespecting Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him). CORRECTION: There was only evil intend behind the disrespect of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).”
Thereby illustrating, yet again, that mohammedans have absolutely *no* understanding of the concept of free speech, and do not belong in civilised countries.
”Freedom of speech means “freedom to disrespect” for the savages.”
Yep ! You got that right, mohammedan ! If ‘disrespectful’ speech is not protected, then there *is* no freedom of speech.
And you dare to call *us* savages? *We* were not the ones who murdered 16 people for drawing cartoons of your putrescent ‘prophet’, we are not the ones marching in thousands, demanding anyone who ‘disrespects’ your foul ‘prophet’ should be murdered.
That would be you, and your co-religionists. It is *you* who are the savages, but you will never comprehend this, because islam has rotted your brain.
By the way, your stinking mohammed, if he existed, was a paedophile, a murderer, a torturer, a rapist, and a thief. Is that ‘disrespectful’ enough for you ? 🙂
Galen Muhammad says
While it’s clear that I don’t have the time or the patience to refute all of those childish lies, it’s obvious that you’ve learned those lies from one helluva deceiver.
In the meantime, you have not refuted one word that I’ve posted so far….nor has anyone claimed my statements to be untrue!
Not only did I not kill anyone over the foolish and disrespectful cartoons, the religion of Islam doesn’t even condone such a misdeed! You really are barking up the wrong tree and your ignorance is shining forth! Though….it only about 1 watt (i.e., dimwitted)….
Angemon says
Galen Muhammad posted:
“While it’s clear that I don’t have the time or the patience to refute all of those childish lies, it’s obvious that you’ve learned those lies from one helluva deceiver.”
No time? Why? Too busy making up stories about paid islamophobes?
“In the meantime, you have not refuted one word that I’ve posted so far….nor has anyone claimed my statements to be untrue!”
Is that so? Really?
“Not only did I not kill anyone over the foolish and disrespectful cartoons”
Fact: more muslims killed over CH cartoons that all the other religions, agnostics and atheists combined.
“the religion of Islam doesn’t even condone such a misdeed!”
Actually, it does.
Mirren10 says
Galen Muhammad says :
”While it’s clear that I don’t have the time or the patience to refute all of those childish lies, it’s obvious that you’ve learned those lies from one helluva deceiver”
No, what’s clear is you don’t have the *ability* to refute anything anyone has said, because you know it to be true.
You see, mohammedan, we here, most of us, have *read* your foul koran, your hadiths, and the life of your putrescent ‘prophet’. So your silly attempts to deflect won’t gain any traction – you’re wasting your time, and ours.
I would suggest you trot off over to Huffpo, or ‘loonwatch’ – they love mohammedan apologists over there, and will eat up your nonsense with a spoon.
”In the meantime, you have not refuted one word that I’ve posted so far….nor has anyone claimed my statements to be untrue.”
Again, you have merely proved, once again, that mohammedans have no understanding of what *truth* actually is – your koran, hadiths, and sunna prove very clearly what islam is, so your lies and whitewashing stand for what they are.
As for refuting what you have said, you have posted nothing substantial *to* be refuted.
”Not only did I not kill anyone over the foolish and disrespectful cartoons, the religion of Islam doesn’t even condone such a misdeed! ”
I don’t think anyone has said you, personally killed anyone, but neither have you expressed any horror or indignation, merely a rather lukewarm disapproval, which I, for one, consider to be entirely meretricious.
Your ‘religion’ certainly does condone murder; of Jews, infidels, apostates, adulterers, homosexuals, et al. Equally, your ‘prophet’, in several hadiths, condones the murder of those who mocked him.
You **know** all of this to be true, so why are you wasting our time ?
Wendy says
I honestly doubt that. I do know for a fact that you don’t even want to walk up and peacefully talk to a Muslim in the USA as the radical Muslims in the USA will make up lies about what really happened and sharia law courts in the USA will back up this fraud.
No Fear says
Muslims have received threats due to the portrayal of muslims in American Sniper?
Non-muslims have received threats due to the portrayal of non-muslims in the Quran.
EYESOPEN says
Well said, No Fear!
FarmerMike says
Quite right, No Fear:”Non-muslims have received threats due to the portrayal of non-muslims in the Quran.”
And this is why I urge someone w/ lawyerly expertise to come forth and help us file a class action suit against all the Mosques & Imams of the US. Because the Quran is full of hate speech, threatening to kill us all for being kaffirs, or non-beleivers in Allah.
If “Huckleberry Finn” can be banned from the NY Public Library for offensive speech (as happened several years ago), I definitely want to help file a suit banning the Quran from being published or sold or even used in any Mosque.
I’m not threatening Muslims. I’m saying we must remove the written threat in the form of the Quran. And also silence the Imams who preach the killing of us kaffirs.
Who will stand with me?
I stand for freedom of speech, peaceful freedom to criticize anyone’s ideas, religious or otherwise, And I reject the notion that I or anyone should be targeted or killed for making a criticism of the Quran. We must raise our voices in a loud enough clamor that even the New York Times will hear us, and take notice in a news story.
We will stand for freedom of speech, freedom to criticize, freedom to find fault where fault clearly lies. We will also shame the NY Times for, so far, failing to notice and report the stench emanating from the Quran.
I say a class action suit to ban the Mosques and Quran from preaching hate & kill speech, as a high road to a civilized public denunciation of this barbarous, mafia-like “religion”.
Who will stand with me?
–FarmerMike
Galen Muhammad says
“Quite right, No Fear:’Non-[M]uslims have received threats due to the portrayal of non-[M]uslims in the Quran by non-Muslims.’” [Previously stated lie corrected by bold print]
Most paid Islamaphobes poorly misinterpret the Holy Qur’an for their own financial gain. If they portrayed Islam as it really is, most of the weak-minded people who believe their fantastic lies would hardly buy their books or other fact-free materials, believe their self-proclaimed titles, attend their paid seminars, etc.
No civilized person should stand with anyone disrespecting people because they have that ability to do so. Just because you, as an individual claim not to be directly threatening Muslims, that does not invalidate the claims of Muslims who have said that they have been threatened. You may not realize it, but many who agree with your opinions are violent people and only need the least, petty excuse to set in motion violence against Muslims or those their ignorant minds perceives to be Muslims. Look at the shooting of the Sikh Temple a couple of years ago, the pushing of the Sikh onto the train track in NYC….and other similar incidents. Your words and others of your ilk will be used to incite violence against Muslims.
Muslims are not “the other“. We are as much of the fabric of this nation as any other citizen here. The same applies to our religion. Both were here before this land was called the United States of American and it will remain here….just as we will.
Based on the comments to this Islamaphobic blog, it is still clearly a religion that you do not understand.
We, too, stand for the same freedom, but when we do criticize, it’s not to pointlessly disrespect or to lie about someone. It’s to correct their wrongdoing. Further, we know that freedom of speech was meant as freedom to speak out against a tyrannical government (which you are not doing in this topic)!
Angemon says
Galen Muhammad posted:
“Most paid Islamaphobes poorly misinterpret the Holy Qur’an for their own financial gain.”
And, of course, GM nexer gives examples of these alleged “paid islamophobes” or how they “misinterpret” the quran. Also, if you poorly misinterpret one thing does that mean you interpret it? You know, in the line of “if you suck at failing then you succeed”? GH also leaves out ahadith and interpretations and explanations by islamic scholars (lol, islamic scholars, what an oxymoron!) – if the “misinterpretations” presented by an “islamophobe” are merely reports on what islamic scholars say, does that mean that the islamic scholars are islamophobes or that they’re misinterpreting the quran?
“If they portrayed Islam as it really is”
You mean, a vehicle for arabic supremacism?
“most of the weak-minded people who believe their fantastic lies would hardly buy their books or other fact-free materials, believe their self-proclaimed titles, attend their paid seminars, etc.”
If someone like, let’s say. Robert Spencer started saying that islam is a puppy running through a sunny meadow covered in rose petals these alleged sources of income would be replaced by far more lucrative oil money – textbook example of “selling out”.
“No civilized person should stand with anyone disrespecting people because they have that ability to do so.”
That just goes to prove that muslims who know what the quran, the ahadith and islamic orthodoxy in general say about non-muslims and chose to defend islam are not civilized persons.
“Just because you, as an individual claim not to be directly threatening Muslims, that does not invalidate the claims of Muslims who have said that they have been threatened.”
Nor does it validate them.
“You may not realize it, but many who agree with your opinions are violent people and only need the least, petty excuse to set in motion violence against Muslims or those their ignorant minds perceives to be Muslims.”
Now try applying that logic to muslims, considering what islamic orthodoxy teaches of non-muslims.
“Look at the shooting of the Sikh Temple a couple of years ago, the pushing of the Sikh onto the train track in NYC….and other similar incidents.”
What does that have to do with muslims? If they’re not the victims, were they the perpetrators?
“Your words and others of your ilk will be used to incite violence against Muslims.”
How?
“Muslims are not “the other“. We are as much of the fabric of this nation as any other citizen here.”
Bulls***. Bring forth examples or forever keep your lying mouth sealed.
“Based on the comments to this Islamaphobic blog, it is still clearly a religion that you do not understand.”
And that’s more evidence that you’re not to be taken seriously…
“We, too, stand for the same freedom”
Nope.
“but when we do criticize, it’s not to pointlessly disrespect or to lie about someone.”
And yet, you’re just said that this blog is “islamophobic” and that “islamophobes” “misinterpret” the quran for financial gain.
“It’s to correct their wrongdoing.”
“Further, we know that freedom of speech was meant as freedom to speak out against a tyrannical government (which you are not doing in this topic)!”
Nope. It’s called “freedom of speech”, not “freedom to speak against a tyrannical government”.
RonaldB says
FarmerMike says:
“I stand for freedom of speech…”
“I definitely want to help file a suit banning the Quran from being published or sold or even used in any Mosque.”
RonaldB says
Galen Muhammad says:
” You may not realize it, but many who agree with your opinions are violent people and only need the least, petty excuse to set in motion violence against Muslims or those their ignorant minds perceives to be Muslims. ”
Ah, I think you forgot something, Galen. You seem to be saying that you are responsible if someone who holds the same opinion that you do commits violent acts.
I think you just invalidated your whole defense, that Muslims are like any other Americans. Going by your logic, Muslims are responsible for the many, many acts of terror and murder committed by Muslims.
I look forward to your correction of my logic.
Champ says
Bravo, No Fear!
noellsq says
I have not read any of the comments yet but will. Please believe me when i say fuck you all meaning radical and moderate Muslims. I am going to drink,smoke and tell my wife to parade and dress the way she wants. I love bacon and love to BBQ ribs outside. I believe in not breaking any laws but am for concealed carry.
Salah says
Molon Labe.
William Lucas HarveyJr. says
BTW-there are ALREADY Muslim ‘Enclaves’ with ‘No-Go Zones’ popping up around America, such as Dearborn Michigan, Dallas Texas, as well as California, New York, Tennessee, Virginia, South Carolina, Georgia, as some examples”.
Some Associated Articles Links on Kerry-Obama and Muslim Enclaves with No Go Zones in America:
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/01/25/this-is-what-egyptians-think-of-u-s-secretary-of-state-john-kerry/
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/dearborn-no-go-zone-where-islam-rules-and-christians-are-stoned
http://www.meforum.org/2686/muslim-enclaves-usa
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2010/ryan-mauro/munslim-enclaves-u-s-a/
http://heritagefl.com/story/2014/04/18/opinions/islamic-enclaves-in-america/2562.html
http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2015/01/14/muslims-have-established-no-go-zones-in-america-video/
http://freethoughtnation.com/muslim-qno-goq-zones-in-the-us/
http://rebootingliberty.com/muslim-no-go-zones-are-now-established-in-u-s/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11356188/US-governor-denounces-so-called-Muslim-no-go-zones-in-London-speech.html
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/coming-soon-americas-own-islamic-no-go-zones/
katnis says
Phew that’s a long list! I checked out a few of the links. I like the quote on one of the pages, which said something like this…
It all starts innocently enough, with Muslims moving into a neighborhood and (supposedly) wanting to assimilate. But then as others join them… we all know what happens next. Example : Dearborn.
umbra says
Cancer is as cancer is.
RonaldB says
“The letter asked Eastwood and Cooper to speak out against such messages “in an effort to reduce the hateful rhetoric”.”
Well, are they being asked to speak out against threats towards Muslims, or are they being asked to speak out against hateful rhetoric, which to them is critical rhetoric. Not so clear.
Here is the letter I would write in response.
“I and the other people involved in the movie unequivocally condemn and reject any violence or calls for violence against Muslims. While criticism of any person, religion, or idea is within the rights of Americans, threats of personal violence are not. We strongly support the use of ideas, and only ideas, to engage any differences we have with the Muslim community or philosophy.
We not only urge that no threats or actions of violence be used against Muslims. We urge anyone with knowledge of illegal threats or intentions to commit violence inform the police immediately.”
Mac-101 says
I’d love to see a web site put up the death count from Muslims by Infidels and compare it to Infidels by Muslims, world wide and just the USA. Shouldn’t be too hard. It wouldn’t be hard to guess who would be leadin in the numbers.
umbra says
ROP types would just make up the numbers …
MKG says
thereligionofpeace website has a counter. But, it is only jihad attacks. They have included the number of attacks on muslims perpetrated by Buddhists. LOL. I can not tell you the exact figure, but the number of hadjis killed by our troops and coalition forces over the last 14 years is hovering around 300 thousand. This includes hadji attacks perpetrated on eachother in our Areas Of Responsibility.
Mac-101 says
I can assure you MKG I’ve seen Gun Bunnies and Dust Off pilots cry in da TOC because they couldn’t get the authority past the Bde LAUYERS to launch and attack insurgents who were killin our soldiers and marines. The ROE is a national disgrace and a crime against our soldiers who were mislead by our traitorous ELITES to attempt to bring civility to Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Collateral damage was kept to a minimum and no ill intent was executed. Most of those deaths were Muslims killin Muslims and manipulatin Coalition troops to assist in their tribal hatreds and the resultant revenge.
MKG says
Been there done that brother and yes it frustrates the hell out of you.
Galen Muhammad says
I’ll be the first apparently to inform you the the so-called “religionofpeace” website you refer to is an Islamaphobic site. No Muslim made it and it’s generally fact-free!!
Jay Boo says
Muslims are outraged if anyone dare threaten to burn a Qur’an.
Yet, They are silent when their fellow Muslims burn churches from dusk till dawn.
Muslims
Look beyond the vast dark emptiness of Islam.
Look beyond the vengeance veiled as piety.
Look beyond your vain bloodlust songs to a hollow victory.
No one sings about Muhammad … only his depravity.
Muslims
Stop pretending to respect Jesus.
Muhammad is dead.
Jesus Christ lives.
Irony Man says
As Claire Berlinski writes:
The neologism “Islamophobia” did not simply emerge ex nihilo. It was invented, deliberately, by a Muslim Brotherhood front organization, the International Institute for Islamic Thought, which is based in Northern Virginia. If that name dimly rings a bell, it should: I’ve mentioned it before, and it’s particularly important because it was co-founded by Anwar Ibrahim–the hero of Moderate Islam who is now trotting around the globe comparing his plight to that of Aung San Suu Kyi.
Abdur-Rahman Muhammad, a former member of the IIIT who has renounced the group in disgust, was an eyewitness to the creation of the word. “This loathsome term,” he writes, “is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliche conceived in the bowels of Muslim think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics.”
The fact that you are prepared to use this ridiculous word shows you in your true light.
NOTE: A phobia is an IRRATIONAL fear – therefore if you fear something and it is based on reason – it is NOT a phobia. People just aren’t buying that islamophobia cr@p anymore.
Angemon says
Galen Muhammad posted:
“I’ll be the first apparently to inform you the the so-called “religionofpeace” website you refer to is an Islamaphobic site. No Muslim made it and it’s generally fact-free!!”
Textbook example of how the word “islamophobia” is used to silence critics of islam.
Bezelel says
Every third word out of islam is a threat. Terroristic threats, non stop. I doubt the movie inspired threats. If muslims are receiving any threats there are plenty of logical reasons to credit them with.
KiwiKaffir says
Islam is the religion of perpetual victim hood. Nothing is news here. They would cry foul if is was perky pig!
jay says
I bet Clint had a good laugh at that letter. I hope he sent nothing but a screenshot from Gran Turino of him saying GET OFF MY LAWN back.
Roxane says
I saw American Sniper and it is an amazing film with an outstanding performance by Bradley Cooper as American Hero, Chris Kyle. Arabs and Muslims are angry because the film pulls no punches with Kyle calling the enemy “savages” which is what they are. He was a very brave man who risked his life for this country and his brother soldiers. He was also a patriot who believed in God, country, family in that order. Which is why the corrupt left hates him and what he stood for. If only there were more men like him and fewer like the corrupt “politicians” in Washington.
duh_swami says
Well, I expect Mahoundians to whine and moan over a lot of things. So whining about this movie, and lying about threats is standard.
I have not seen the movie and have no intention of seeing it. It may be great, but I don’t ‘do’ movies and I refuse to give Hollywood and it’s ego maniacs one red cent.
Irony Man says
How dare they call all of the world’s cinema going people hateful! This is just the worst possible case of freedomophobia ever! Sue them our feelings are hurt!
Although the words Islam and Jihad weren’t used in the movie, it was obvious who the enemy where, the film even started with the call to prayer. Knowing who the enemy are in the movie and hearing them being called ‘savages’ at least three times has to be a nod to Pamela Geller.
FarmerMike says
Yeah, Irony Man… I see you’re being ironic. But, really, this just may BE a perfect time for those of us loving freedom of speech to file a class action suit against the Mosques & Imams across the country, suing them for hate speech threatening to kill all of us kaffirs. What I see is our need not simply to shine a light on the ‘hate & directives to kill’ speech within the Koran, but also the willful blindness of the mass media, print & cyber, that currently protects the Muslim hate speech. Why? I guess it is our national addiction to oil, which is making a lot of folks drunkenly rich, so drunkenly rich they are blinding our country, ‘muzzling’ [to coin a phrase] our freedom of speech.
If we filed a class action suit against against the Koran & Mosques & Imams who give voice to this hate speech, the American media would have to take notice, and publish our suit. This promotes a wider dialog, raising awareness, which is so sorely needed here in America.
We need to exercise our First Amendment rights to their fullest extent, by filing a class action suit against hate speech, and not let ourselves be more & more muzzled.
–FarmerMike
Geoff Miller says
American Sniper is a great film – watch it and it’s success alone will drive the Leftists and Muslims CRAZY.
All this nonsense about threats to Muslims, Muslims the real victims etc etc is just hogwash.
Here, in the UK, we have the government feeding into this lie that Muslims are under threat from the indigenous people. Craven letters have gone out to all imams after the Paris atrocity promising to protect Muslims, offering legal assistance, “celebrating” the “great religion of Islam”.
It is really quite disgusting.
Jews are fleeing the UK and the indigenous people are being driven out of their own towns.
This video sums up the kind of thing that is going on. No no-go zones? Who are they kidding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUODVXIIKwQ
It is funny though how Darkus Howe, a hate filled anti-white racist, gets threatened by Pakistanis with whom he thought he could join forces against “whitey”.
AnneM says
Well it is number 1 for a reason in regards to the boxoffice.
MKG says
Another strategy of war, denigh the enemy their heros.
Tim says
This is clearly bogus. I bet you they haven’t even seen the film! The film follows the life of the sniper and deals very little with any Muslims so this is 100% a completely manipulated bogus claim.
voegelinian says
“The film follows the life of the sniper and deals very little with any Muslims”
No doubt. I haven’t seen one film in 15 years that has dealt honestly with the problem of terrorism as properly contextualized in the global revival of Islamic Jihad that has been galvanizing the entire Muslim world over the course of the 20th century and increasing exponentially post-911. “Zero Dark Thirty” for example, while ostensibly a gritty no-nonsense species of cinematic realism, was in fact riddled with slyly subtle PC MC tropes, memes and subliminal messages — with the overarching theme being telegraphed to the viewer being that the problem is only a TMOE (Tiny Minority of Extremists who are hijacking Islam).
The only exception to this tendency was a film (marginal and not really mainstream, though it had one big name actor, Harvey Keitel), called “The Stone Merchant”. But even that film at the end of the day labored under a TMOE meme subtext.
Mark says
So there have been a number of direct threats? If they meet the criteria of illegal/terroristic utterances, they should be prosecuted. Hopefully there are only 3 that rise to that level. I suspect that there have been a lot more calls to kill infidels (us) than there were insults to the “Muslim sensibilities”.
Doug says
The movie is about someone who is shooting non-existent islamic terrorists.
Champ says
LOL!!! 😀
Brad says
“Non-existent”??
PRCS says
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ApolloSpeaks says
THE ULTIMATE DEFENSE FROM INTERNATIONAL LAW AGAINST ALLEGATIONS THAT CHRIS KYLE WAS A PSYCHOPATHIC MURDERING WAR CRIMINAL
A must read. You’ll learn things that could blow your mind.
Click http://www.apollospeaks.com and read the piece.
Mo says
It’s time we started asking for PROOF of these accusations! Oh, they’ll always hide behind, “It’s under investigation”, but that’s crap. How do we know that? Because how many times have we heard these accusations through the years, yet never hear any follow up about people being charged?
Call them on it!
Stevo says
Agreed. I’m no liberal but I call bullshit because I’m smelling something dirty and not seeing proof.
Remember the military wedding that Barack Obama’s golf game mowed over in Hawaii? Turns out he apologized to the couple/s and they weren’t mad and even made a YouTube video of their response, but the right-wing press reported otherwise.
It’s propaganda like this that disgusts me. I don’t like our president, but faulting someone or a group based on a lie? That’s petty juvenile crap.
Spot On says
I love a movie that makes Michael Moore upset.
mostafa says
Spencer shame on you and on every dirty jew that roams this planet, keep hating we as muslim will dominate the world wether u like it or not by shithead
Champ says
“mostafa” demonstrates that Truth is the new hate speech …and “mostafa” is the one spewing hatred by making such a vile statement about Jews.
Angemon says
mostafa posted:
“we as muslim will dominate the world wether u like it or not by shithead”
You’re going to dominate the world by shithead? What does that even mean? I mean, sure, most muslims are shitheads, but what you wrote just makes no sense.
Irony Man says
Hahaha. He probably meant to say:
“as muslim will dominate the world wether u like it or not by allah” but instead said what he actually thought of his god – maybe it’s one of his 99 names?
MKG says
Galen, you have been arguing every point except my main point that muslims themselves, by their actions are giving us reason for concern.
Lies, half truths, islamophobia, non-muslims misinterpretation of the koran, defamation etc. who cares? I mean really, who cares? What I am focusing on is this, when a muslim slices off someone’s head in the name of allah, points the bloody knife at the camera and states your time is coming, only a complete idiot would ignore it. When Boko Haram slauters 2,000 people over the weekend and burn churches in the name of islam, why should we not take note? Muslims demonstrating in the streets saying there is no god but allah and muhamed is his prophet, and we will only have peace when you acknowledge it. How are we supposed to respond to that? ISIS and Boko Haram themselves have challenged muslims like you Galen, to prove that what they are doing is not written in the koran or is un-islamic. But wait, it gets even better. In countries where shariah law rules, women are sold as slaves, beaten for what westerners regard as minor offenses, and where people are crucified for various seemingly minor offenses. Give us one good reason why we would want that here. Yes there is much offense, and we are offended indeed. Muslims are making threats against their neighbors and acting upon those threats.
I have never read the koran nor do I intend to. The Christians on this sight are throwing Bible verses at you. Good for them. As one who is approaching this situation from outside the sphere of influence of middle eastern monotheism the points listed above are good enough for me.
MKG says
What’s wrong Galen? You’ll spend all day sparring with the others. Will you not spar with me?
rabrooks says
Let’s see… We’ve been at war with pislam(by their account) for several years. We get daily threats from all around pislamdom saying “we will destroy America..”etc.. Almost 25,000 jihad attacks since 9/11. About 20 churches destroy every week in Nigeria. Mudslimes slaughtering Christians on a daily basis. Pislamic “No-go” zones in European cities. And they complain about an increase in “threats” against them? Lucky that’s all they’re getting!
Darrius says
yeah…. I’m looking at the counter that displays over 24, 000+++++ separate islamic terrorist attacks…. that wouldnt have anything to do with it ,
Mike says
Islam is medieval theocracy delivered by a common thug. This is not just what history records, but what the thug actually writes (Slavery, pedophilia, sex slaves generally, lying (aka kitman / taqiyya) murder, torture, etc etc. Theocracy is illegal in the United States and the US Constitution demands, in no uncertain terms, theocracy be expelled with extreme prejudice. Problem is we have a nazi communist jihadi narcissist in the white house. Let’s deal with the world the way it is.
Galen Muhammad says
Mike:
That’s double talk! If Islam is “medieval” and it’s newer (as a religion) than Judaism and Christianity, how much more archaic does that make those other religions? Wait….. Are you an atheist?
All of the other garbage in your post you’re poorly associating with Islam has no connection with Islam. Period.
Galen Muhammad says
@Mohamadamadingdong:
You obviously know nothing about Islam or US demographics!
It’s an oft-repeated fact that Muslim Americans make up no more than 2% of the entire population. Please explain how 2% is NOT a religious minority in the US.
Mohamadamadingdong says
Galen, I should have worded my post better. When I stated that islam is not a “religious minority” I meant that the two percent muslims in the US belong to a deviant death cult and not a true religion. I should have said “but a death cult” right after that, sorry, my bad.
I do know enough about islam that I can confidently say it stymies, cultural development, free thought, scientific – technological advancement and Liberty. Everyone on this site knows this is true so I’ll stop there.
I also wish the 2% of muslims that are living here, was more like at 0%.
Answer this Galen, WHY do muslims cling like barnacles to other cultures if you guys are so superior? Muslims can’t even manufacture the dull knives that they saw people’s heads off with and you guys really stink when I walk by a group of muzzies at a Starbucks.