I wonder how this discourse have been received in Egypt and worldwide, anyone knows??
Marksays
From the little I’ve heard, the MSM is largely ignoring this speech (Egypt under al-Sisi is not popular with Obama and company, for one thing). Sun news in Canada had the following article, arguing for the importance of the event:
I’m going to play the cynic and wait for actions to complement his words. I see him saying “we can’t expect that 1.6 billion to kill the rest of the 7 billion” and think of the jihad in India: Hindus were eventually considered “people of the Book” because there were too many of them to kill.
mortimersays
Giving up? Could be. The Islamic birthrate is rapidly dropping.
Jerrysays
Sis is a brave man, who is now ia target for Jihadi assassination attempts.
It’s like Sisi is saying the antagonizing DOES have something to do with islam!!! Duh, I bet joe biden could teach him a thing or two about islam.
Allan Mandrowskisays
I think some people (including Andrew) need to give Sisi the benefit of the doubt. Even if his statement is a statement that renders pointless over time, it’s still courageous to basically be critical of Arab culture, Arab thought and ultimately of Islam. To say it in the open like he did for whatever reason is courageous as it puts his life in danger, hardline Islamists will try to put an end to his life.
So it is a bit cynical to on the one hand hope for change from within the Islamic world and at the same time blame Sisi for being dishonest in his attempt to reform Islam, that leaves the Muslim world with 0 options and therefore people like Andrew might want to hold off from such opinions in order to give people like Sisi a genuine chance to spark a debate and perhaps make a change.
Angemonsays
Allan Mandrowski posted:
“So it is a bit cynical to on the one hand hope for change from within the Islamic world and at the same time blame Sisi for being dishonest in his attempt to reform Islam”
Once burned, twice shy. Nothing good comes from blindly supporting supposedly “moderate” or “reformist” muslims. It’s only fair that some people (like me) prefer to wait and see if his actions match his words.
cs says
I wonder how this discourse have been received in Egypt and worldwide, anyone knows??
Mark says
From the little I’ve heard, the MSM is largely ignoring this speech (Egypt under al-Sisi is not popular with Obama and company, for one thing). Sun news in Canada had the following article, arguing for the importance of the event:
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2015/01/20150106-072443.html
cs says
Thanx bro.
Angemon says
I’m going to play the cynic and wait for actions to complement his words. I see him saying “we can’t expect that 1.6 billion to kill the rest of the 7 billion” and think of the jihad in India: Hindus were eventually considered “people of the Book” because there were too many of them to kill.
mortimer says
Giving up? Could be. The Islamic birthrate is rapidly dropping.
Jerry says
Sis is a brave man, who is now ia target for Jihadi assassination attempts.
Salah says
BREAKING:
Egypt’s Sisi Becomes First President to Attend Christmas Mass
http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/01/06/egypts-sisi-becomes-first-president-to-attend-christmas-mass/
Bezelel says
It’s like Sisi is saying the antagonizing DOES have something to do with islam!!! Duh, I bet joe biden could teach him a thing or two about islam.
Allan Mandrowski says
I think some people (including Andrew) need to give Sisi the benefit of the doubt. Even if his statement is a statement that renders pointless over time, it’s still courageous to basically be critical of Arab culture, Arab thought and ultimately of Islam. To say it in the open like he did for whatever reason is courageous as it puts his life in danger, hardline Islamists will try to put an end to his life.
So it is a bit cynical to on the one hand hope for change from within the Islamic world and at the same time blame Sisi for being dishonest in his attempt to reform Islam, that leaves the Muslim world with 0 options and therefore people like Andrew might want to hold off from such opinions in order to give people like Sisi a genuine chance to spark a debate and perhaps make a change.
Angemon says
Allan Mandrowski posted:
“So it is a bit cynical to on the one hand hope for change from within the Islamic world and at the same time blame Sisi for being dishonest in his attempt to reform Islam”
Once burned, twice shy. Nothing good comes from blindly supporting supposedly “moderate” or “reformist” muslims. It’s only fair that some people (like me) prefer to wait and see if his actions match his words.