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White House spokesman: US needs to “redouble” efforts to explain the true “tenets” of Islam

Jan 8, 2015 4:21 pm By Robert Spencer

Josh EarnestI think this is a great idea. The White House should indeed redouble its efforts to explain what the Qur’an and Sunnah actually say. If it did this honestly, this would lead to a massive change in its foreign and domestic policies. What’s the downside?

Of course, the problem with this is that the White House is enveloped in a fog of willful ignorance about Islam’s texts and teachings, and Earnest here is only saying that they’re going to redouble their efforts to thicken that fog.

“WH: America Needs to ‘Redouble’ Effort to Explain True ‘Tenets’ of Islam,” by Daniel Halper, The Weekly Standard, January 7, 2015:

White House press secretary Josh Earnest explained to reporters today that the United States needs to “redouble” efforts to explain “what the tenets of Islam actually are.” He made the comments in response to a question about how the U.S. might respond to the terror attack today in France….

“The threat that we face is serious, but what we have is strong international cooperation with our partners around the globe to try to mitigate the threat that is posed by foreign fighters. We are working very closely with leaders in the Muslim community both at home and around the world to try to counter the violent extremist messaging that ISIL and other extremist organizations are using to try to radicalize individuals around the globe.

“There are some individuals that are using a peaceful religion and grossly distorting it, and trying to use its tenets to inspire people around the globe to carry out acts of violence. And we have enjoyed significant success in enlisting leaders in the Muslim community, like I said, both in the United States and around the world to condemn that kind of messaging, to condemn those efforts to radicalize individuals, and to be clear about what the tenets of Islamactually [sic] are. And we’re going to redouble those efforts in the days and weeks ahead.

“And obviously, we’re still trying to figure out exactly, like I said, who’s responsible for this attack in Paris, what their motivations are. But as a general matter, we’re very mindful of the threat from foreign fighters and the threat — and the need to try to counter some of the extremist ideology that ISIL is propagating, using some pretty sophisticated social media strategies.”

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  1. Ashley says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    “And obviously, we’re still trying to figure out exactly, like I said, who’s responsible for this attack in Paris, what their motivations are.”
    ____________________

    You’ve got to be fucking kidding me…

    • Mark says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 5:06 pm

      Obviously they are just more “French men” who have gone insane, and it’s nothing to do with Islam.

    • Bezelel says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 6:05 pm

      I wish they were fucking kidding.

    • Saycheese says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 6:18 pm

      Apparently they have put inspector Clouseau on the case.

      • Alice says

        Jan 8, 2015 at 8:30 pm

        Precisely! Gotta love the clowns.

  2. rev g says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    Put Joe Biden to work on it ASAP!

  3. mariam rove says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. No that is what happens when you have a muslim enabler in the white house. M

  4. Angemon says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    Oh, for f***’s sake. That speech is an I.Q. droping insipid mixture of political correctness, magical thinking and pussyfooting while beating away from the bush. It brings my blood to a boil, an I’m not american.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 5:57 pm

      A real Earnest Hemingway. Unfortunately one individual already grossly distorted any peace from this religion, Muhammad. The Sunnah is called The Example of Muhammad. Realizing no one in the White House or positions of High Office would actually bother reading and learning anything, we’ll just offer Just Joshing two links on this subject, one from a non-distorting Muslim site, one from a kaffir who has actually read the Qur’an and Sunnah:

      “The proof of the necessity of killing anyone who curses the Prophet or finds fault with him”
      http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec2.htm

      “the assassinations of satirical poets in early Islam”
      http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/dead_poets.htm

      Of course Muhammad, or following his example, or what is actually taught in the core teachings of Islam
      has nothing to do with Islam. Josh Earnest knows of other “tenets” and someday he’ll reveal them to us.

      • Tradewinds says

        Jan 8, 2015 at 7:26 pm

        Actually Hemingway’s is spelled “Ernest.” Dhimmi Josh Earnest is a pea brain compared to Ernest Hemingway.

        • Jack Diamond says

          Jan 8, 2015 at 7:36 pm

          Do I need to say it was a play on words at the expense of Mr. Josh?

        • rev g says

          Jan 8, 2015 at 8:30 pm

          Well, at least the name is fitting. Whenever he is speaking in an earnest manner, he is really just “josh”ing us.

  5. Sam says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    Thank God! Finally we are going to find out about the true nature of Islam. Robert, sorry we will not need you anymore. I will be listening to the Islam expert Obama from now on. Hope CAIR will help in this endeavor also.

    • Bezelel says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 6:07 pm

      Watch out for low flying pigs.

  6. katnis says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    Copy / paste from Robert Spencer’s Islam 101: The unhappy fact is that Islam today is what it has been fourteen centuries: violent, intolerant, and expansionary. It is folly to think that we, in the course of a few years or decades, are going to be able to change the basic world outlook of a foreign civilization. Islam’s violent nature must be accepted as given; only then will we be able to come up with appropriate policy responses that can improve our chances of survival.

    ISLAM’S VIOLENT NATURE MUST BE ACCEPTED AS GIVEN.

    After one thousand + years of documented violence, how can Josh make a statement promoting understanding? Understanding what? More lies and violence?

    • Budvarakbar says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 5:22 pm

      Same as Booosche saying “Islam is a religion of peace” — A lie that will go in the history books

      • particolor says

        Jan 8, 2015 at 6:15 pm

        I had to write this with one Hand as the other was Amputated most Violently for taking a Chocolate from the Imams Chocolate Box without asking !!

        • Alice says

          Jan 8, 2015 at 8:37 pm

          Have often wondered if Bush was an idiot, or if he had been threatened with a Muslim civil war here? I think he didn’t have the moral stamina to buck the guy standing next to him. Who knows what threats had been made?

          JUST a thought…

  7. JeffS says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    So how exactly are they going to explain that 2:191 “And slay them wherever ye find them” actually means to all join hands and meditate for love and world peace?

  8. Mirren10 says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    ”We are working very closely with leaders in the Muslim community both at home and around the world to try to counter the violent extremist messaging that ISIL and other extremist organizations are using to try to radicalize individuals around the globe”

    Translation:

    ”We are working very closely with leaders in the muslim community both at home and around the world to try persuade you idiots that the koran doesn’t say exactly what it does say, that the mohammedan murderers who quote from it to justify what they do are taking the wonderful and peaceful koran out of context, and we are hoping you’ll want to believe this crap so much you won’t bother to read the shit for yourselves, or put your brains in gear, and just go back to sleep.”

    ”And we have enjoyed significant success in enlisting leaders in the Muslim community, like I said, both in the United States and around the world to condemn that kind of messaging, to condemn those efforts to radicalize individuals, and to be clear about what the tenets of Islamactually [sic] are”

    Translation:

    We’re finding this snow job more and more difficult to put over on you fools, because some of you are daring to believe what your eyes and ears tell you, instead of swallowing our bullshit, but by golly, we’re going to carry on doing it, and we won’t give up. Plus the muslims are going to be working closely with us to shovel out loads more bullshit taqqiya about what the tenets of islam are, and we’re quite convinced that at least some of you morons will carry on believing it”.

    “And obviously, we’re still trying to figure out exactly, like I said, who’s responsible for this attack in Paris, what their motivations are.”

    Translation:

    ”I can’t believe I’m actually spewing this crap, but hey, most of you are so thick, and such wish fulfilment dumkopfs we have every confidence we can continue gaslighting you, no matter how many ‘allahu akbars’ you hear being shrieked, and no matter how many times the mohammedan murderers come out and say exactly what their motivations are. Oh, and I was going to say it’s all the fault of American foreign policy, but I was told even you lot aren’t retarded enough to swallow that any more. Damn. allahu ackbar !”

    • Wellington says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 5:12 pm

      Fine statement, Mirren. I would suggest, though, that you consider the possibility that Josh Earnest (an uber liberal) actually believes the rot he’s spewing. As George Will asked long ago, what do the lost continent of Atlantis and a liberal mind have in common? Answer: Well, both have been rumored to exist but there’s really no hard evidence for either.

      Hope you and yours are doing well, Mirren. And Happy New Year. I predict 2015 will be a year in which even more millions of people worldwide wake up to the fact that Islam is horrible.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jan 8, 2015 at 6:21 pm

        ”I would suggest, though, that you consider the possibility that Josh Earnest (an uber liberal) actually believes the rot he’s spewing.”

        Oh, I have, and I do ! I was just being mega sarcastic, as well as hoping people *will* realise what a pile of stinking crap it is.

        Happy New Year to you and yours, also, dear Wellington.

        ” I predict 2015 will be a year in which even more millions of people worldwide wake up to the fact that Islam is horrible.”

        I think your prediction is correct; the mohammedans are becoming so emboldened by the supine reactions to their atrocities, that more and more of these horrors will happen. I just wonder what it will take to wake up our *governments* to the fact that ”islam is horrible”. Ay de mi.

        • Alice says

          Jan 8, 2015 at 8:40 pm

          Love your translations!

  9. Spot On says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    No problem for the Democrat Party to show their singular and unlimited support for Islam.

    • Always On Watch says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      Spot On,
      Even a low-class moron can see that Earnest has made a complete ass of himself with this little bit of idiocrary.

      • Spot On says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 7:30 am

        Always on Wach
        Maybe “low class morons” is a bit harsh but it is true. These people easily grab hold of the
        anti American, pro-Islamic, pro-barbarian narrative put out by Democrats. Many Rino’s often do the same to attract the more conservative “low class morons”. The thought process of these people is pure style and form with absolutely no substance. They become dangerously stupid. Unfortunately, they have a large audience. Over time, as these politicians continue to put out their B-S, they actually believe in their own B-S and we have a hard time understanding how these “geniuses” can be so dumb.

  10. CogitoErgoSum says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    No need to explain the truth. Just stop trying to cover it up.

  11. somehistory says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    Hannity had the anjen chowdary….may have misspelled his name…on last evening and he said exactly what the *tenets* are….he even used the dhimmi word to describe those not wanting to convert. It’s been said that the WH has people who watch FOX, so why don’t they know now what the tenets are? The muslim guest said it plain and clear to hear: Conquer the world for islam.

    Wondering why those who have screamed for *separation of church and state* are remaining quiet on the issue of the WH explaining the *tenets* of the so-called religion of peace?

    • Arthur says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 7:25 pm

      I wish the news media would get more of these “honest” Muslims, like Anjem Choudary on the TV explaining Islam and how infidels are all going to hell. They can quote the Koran with authority and argue their point against the “moderate” liars.

  12. mortimer says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    “some individuals…are using a peaceful religion and grossly distorting it”

    WHO SAID ISLAM IS PEACEFUL? DID ANYONE SAY AMERICAN FOOTBALL IS PEACEFUL?

    Islam like American Football is inherently violent…here is some proof:

    BLASPHEMY PUNISHMENTS FROM SHARIA AND KORAN
    From Islamic Commentaries:
    -“Insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is one of the worst of forbidden actions… whether done seriously or in jest. The one who does that is to be EXECUTED even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir.” – Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438
    -as-Suyuti writes: “(If they break their oaths…) This ayah (K. 9:11-12) is used as a proof by those who say that if a dhimmi attacks Islam or the Qur’an or mentions the Prophet in a bad manner, HE IS KILLED, whether he has broken a treaty or not. Those who say that his repentance is accepted use as a proof, “hopefully they will stop.””
    -“(And if they) the people of Mecca (break their pledges) which are between you and them (after their treaty (has been made with you) and assail your religion) and defame the Religion of Islam, (then fight the heads of disbelief) fight the leaders of disbelief: Abu Sufyan and his host. (Lo! they have no binding oaths in order that they may desist) from breaking their pledges.” -Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
    -“It is related that a man forged lies against the Prophet and he sent ‘Ali and az-Zubayr to kill him. Ibn Qani’ related that a man came to the Prophet and said, “Messenger of Allah, I heard my father say something ugly about you, so I killed him,” and that did not distress the Prophet. – Hadith
    Koranic Verses Censoring Criticism of Islam:
    K.2:193. “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah” (disagreeing with Mohammed)
    i.e. fight and kill disbelievers until no one expresses disagreement with Mohammed.
    K.9:11-12 “But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith, – fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith, for their oaths are nothing to them, that thus they may be restrained.”
    K.58:5 “Those who oppose Allah and His Messenger will be laid low”

    …i.e. ‘laid low’ with violence.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 10:37 pm

      Um…Mortimer, I don’t recall NFL players beheading members or fans of the losing team. Saying American Football and Islam are both “inherently violent” rather glaringly omits a rather salient matter of degree, I believe…

      Also, last time I checked, no one was compelled at sword-point to play football. Would that I could say the same for Islam…

    • Mirren10 says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 7:34 am

      ”WHO SAID ISLAM IS PEACEFUL? DID ANYONE SAY AMERICAN FOOTBALL IS PEACEFUL?

      Islam like American Football is inherently violent”

      Rugby’s pretty violent as well, but rugby players don’t cut off the heads of the opposing team whilst shrieking allahu akbar, nor do they shoot them if they diss the team.

      Rather a stupid analogy.

  13. jay says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    What I read was, “We need to propagandize Islam more effectively because people are still resisting it.”

    I’m going to turn into a conspiracy theorists living in the back woods at this rate. These people honestly sound like bought and paid for puppets who are purposefully selling us out, knowingly collaborating with known enemies of our country and ideals and then telling us to our face we’re ‘not understanding’ right? What are people supposed to think?

  14. Budvarakbar says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    In 1988 I contributed $40.00 to the repukikan party and in 1989 contributed $0.00 and have redoubled my contribution every year since then

    • RonW says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 5:22 pm

      Wow!!
      You must be contributing $00000000000000000000000000000.00 by now! Chessboard effect, you know…

      🙂

  15. KevinD says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    I couldn’t disagree less with Mr Earnest on this one!

  16. Lin says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    Here are some important words directly from Islam: jizya; apostacy; dhimmi; taqiyya; kaffir. These are the only five tenets of Islam that I need to know… Look them up.

  17. Ashley says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:22 pm

    http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/152503/charlie-hebdo-attackers-not-linked-to-al-qaeda-expert

    • Alice says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 8:46 pm

      And pigs fly.

  18. ed says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    all the dhimmis and all the none mus-tards have to do is woogle” dar al-islam and dar al-harb ” it really is that simple [ed uk ] [ dar al-harb is in full on mode in france at this very moment in time, 88.000 troops and police hunting two men. WTF

  19. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    redouble = 0 x 2 = 0

    Get right on it, guys. But it ain’t easy to put more oomph into avoiding truth by not accounting for facts. This is especially so when redoubling a fictive reality like Islam, where you or a family member could be maimed or killed for your extra effort.

    Actually, when you think about it, Caliph al-Baghdadi should be pleased with Josh Earnest’s pronouncement. If the gubmint is gonna redouble the total bullsheet it’s laid down so far, so much the better for the Cause.

    Ain’t I ain’t joshing ya here; I say this in earnest. It’s all in the name.

  20. KrazyKafir says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 5:47 pm

    Double their efforts? How much farther up their asses can their heads go?

    • Ashley says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 5:52 pm

      LOL!

    • Always On Watch says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 5:59 pm

      KrazyKafir,
      How much farther up their asses can their heads go?

      To their tonsils, I’d say.

  21. Jaladhi says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    I can’t stop laughing at this delusional reaction of the white House of explaining true tenets f Islam to Muslims!!1 OMG, do these people have any brains inside their skull?? With leaders like the present ones who needs any enemy – they are doing a good job of being our enemy!

  22. Lesley says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    The gunmen were probably enraged after eating some bad chicken. Nothing more to see here, move along…

  23. Salah says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    “We are working very closely with leaders in the Muslim community both at home and around the world”

    Why don’t you try something new? like…declaring the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization for a start. Egypt did, the Saudis did, the UAE did. What are you waiting for. Ahhh, I forgot, they are the real masters in the Oval Office!!!
    Why don’t you “work very closely” with al-Sisi? But no, al-Sisi is baaad!!! He overthrew your Muslim Brotherhood masters.
    I hope the American people will finally wake up, bring all of you to justice for high treason and, if convicted, EXECUTE you. That’s what TRAITORS deserve.

  24. Arafat says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    Unbelievable. They (the scumbag Muslims) must have their tentacles dug so deep within our business, academic and political structure that our spineless leaders have no out. Is this possible?

    I cannot believe these fuckheads could be so stupid. It’s not as if understanding Islam is all that difficult. There has to be a different, more “pragmatic” reason for their feigned stupidity.

  25. bobm says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    This technique of constantly breaking down the integrity of a subject by insisting that the picture of the chicken is actually a picture of a wheel barrow.. till the subject is compliant ….is it a CIA type LSD aided tech. or Nazi … or Stasi or satanic or whatever?… it’s nothing new.. the sandman cometh.

  26. Say No 2 Mo says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 7:03 pm

    Turn up the megaphone.

    “SHOW MORE RESPECT FOR THE RELIGION OF PEACE”

  27. where is the "hijacking" of Buddhism says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    He calls it a “peaceful religion” – jeepers…how many pages of it did he read – 2? or maybe 3 pages?
    Surely no more.

    How come we don’t have to redouble the efforts to explain the true tenets of Buddhism or Christianity. Seems like people are understanding for some reason that there are no violent passages in the New Testament or in the doctrines of Buddhism. Maybe this has something to do with there being a lack of Buddhism terrorists perhaps?

    Surely one doesn’t need to fall for this lie that people are “hijacking” the religion …seems to be no one “hijacking” Buddhism…but plenty “hijacking” Islam. They must think the average population is highly stupid.

  28. Arthur says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    Corrected:
    “There are some individuals that are using a VIOLENT religion and grossly distorting it, and trying to inspire people around the globe to carry out acts of COMPLACENCY.”

  29. BW022 says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    Umm… excuse me Mr. Earnest… but I have a few questions…

    1. I’m an atheist… and I’m not sure I understand Christianity. Will ‘America’ be explaining Christianity to me? How about atheism? How about communism? Neo-impressionism?

    2. Why does only Islam need explaining to me?

    3. Why do I need Islam explained to me any more than Hinduism, Christianity, or Inuit animal spirits?

    4. Why are other religions able to explain themselves… yet Islam needs the weight of the US government to explain it to people?

    5. Why are you assuming I need this explained to me? How do you know I have the “wrong” understanding of Islam? Maybe I’ve read the Koran or taken a comparative religion course in university? What knowledge of Islam do you have access to which I don’t?

    6. Isn’t it offensive to assume I need this explained to me? Isn’t it also offensive to Muslims to assume that they are unable to explain their religion? What knowledge do you have which Islamic leaders, scholars, and followers don’t? I’d find it somewhat offensive if a Christian tried to explain atheism to me. Do Muslims agree with your explanation? Are you giving polls results or how are you determining this? Will you express the views of those Muslims who don’t agree? If Muslims don’t agree.. can I just read the Koran or judge believe based on the actions of people rather than your explanation?

    7. Exactly how are you going to explain this to me? Islam is a rather big topic. It has tenants, history, stories, its interaction with other religions, growth, spread, etc. Is the US offering free Islamic classes? Will there be something taught there which I can’t find in a text book, comparative religion class, or just reading the Koran myself? Who is peer reviewing these materials? How long will this explanation take?

    8. If you can explain Islam without a course, text, study, reading through the Koran, etc…. then can you explain atheism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc. to me in paragraph form also?

    9. Doesn’t the establishment clause of the constitution mean you shouldn’t be trying to explain such things? Isn’t the government supposed to remain neutral?

    10. What if I don’t care? I know almost nothing about Hinduism… yet my don’t feel the need to explain it to me? I’m somehow fine dealing with and forming opinions on Hindus, yet not Muslims? Why can’t someone be equally ignorant of Muslims and still form opinions based on say… their actions?

    etc., etc.

    • Alice says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 8:49 pm

      All the answers are the same:

      Taqiyyahmeister has spoken.

      • Kepha says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 5:53 am

        Nonsense, Alice. The Foot-in-mouth disease has once again struck Washington.

      • Meryem says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 10:23 pm

        Islam Dismantled In 6 Minutes : Pat Condell: http://youtu.be/CJoxVkGHzI0 via @YouTube

        • Peter says

          Jan 11, 2015 at 3:13 pm

          Over 50% of the worlds 1.6 billion Muslims believe in Sharia law and agree it should be adopted . By default that creates over 800 million radical Muslims worldwide, over double the population of Canada and the US combined. Mohammed taught when weak preach peace – when strong wage war. Here is the uncomfortable truth. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ Every American needs to understand what taquiyya is and how it is being used against us the infidel or Kafur because it is the number threat to their freedom. As hard core left winger Bill Maher said this week, it is the left wing under the most attack from Islam. Islamic terrorists have carried out more than 24,826 deadly terror attacks since 911.

    • Ren says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 9:16 pm

      If only you could send your comments to mr Josh Earnest so he understands people are no more fool than he is…

      • Rob says

        Jan 8, 2015 at 11:04 pm

        Josh Earnest is just a well paid mouthpiece for the Administration. I am sure he doesn’t believe half the things he is asked to say- It’s just a job.

        • Meryem says

          Jan 9, 2015 at 6:52 pm

          The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
          The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
          The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
          The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
          The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
          The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
          The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
          The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
          The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
          The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
          The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
          The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
          The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
          The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
          The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
          The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
          The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
          The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
          The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
          The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
          The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
          The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
          The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
          The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
          The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims’

          Think of it:

          Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
          Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
          Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
          Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
          Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
          Confusians living with Baha’is = No Problem
          Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
          Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
          Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
          Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
          Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
          Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
          Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
          Christians living with Jews = No Problem
          Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
          Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
          Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
          Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
          Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

          Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
          Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
          Muslims living with Christians = Problem
          Muslims living with Jews = Problem
          Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
          Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
          Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
          Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
          MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

          **********SO THIS LEAD TO *****************
          They’re not happy in Gaza
          They’re not happy in Egypt
          They’re not happy in Libya
          They’re not happy in Morocco
          They’re not happy in Iran
          They’re not happy in Iraq
          They’re not happy in Yemen
          They’re not happy in Afghanistan
          They’re not happy in Pakistan
          They’re not happy in Syria
          They’re not happy in Lebanon
          They’re not happy in Nigeria
          They’re not happy in Kenya
          They’re not happy in Sudan

          ******** So, where are they happy? **********
          They’re happy in Australia
          They’re happy in England
          They’re happy in Belgium
          They’re happy in France
          They’re happy in Italy
          They’re happy in Germany
          They’re happy in Sweden
          They’re happy in the USA & Canada
          They’re happy in Norway & India
          They’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not themselves… THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they’re happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will be get hammered
          !!!!

          Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
          Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

    • CaycePryhs says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 10:22 pm

      Well said.

    • paul says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 11:16 pm

      Get this response to Rush!

  30. Say No 2 Mo says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    Hello guys and Gals, i have just registered and this is a test.
    My interpretation of this message can be summed up as a “redoubling” Obama’s famous cures on the kufar by turning up the megaphone to proclaim.

    “STOP DISSING THE RELIGION OF PEACE”

    • MrIpe says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 4:51 am

      “There are some individuals that are using a peaceful religion and grossly distorting it”

      Where is his brain? How can Josh live with that kind of idiocy? Muhammed himself brutally murdered people. Or does he mean the final peace – RIP, when there is only one human walking on the Earth?

      • Adam says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 11:03 am

        If the last person on earth were a Muslim, he would have to blow himself up.;-) As to the stupidity being vomited by this administration, Mr Obama is more Arabic than black, and he was educated in his early years in Muslim schools. He will never admit that the Religion of peace is capable of this type of evil…after all, he did say they the evening call to prayer was “one of the most beautiful sounds on earth.”

        If one wishes to learn more about the religion of peace,check out this link…http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

    • Gary says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 8:36 am

      Islam is not a religion of peace. Its name means submission. And it intends to have the entire world submit to it, by whatever means necessary. The Quran specifically tells its adherents to kill the infidel, those who do not believe as they do. Those so-called moderate Muslims do not condemn radical killings because they do not want to risk dishonoring their prophet. Muslims are not even peaceful within their own Muslim sects. And they certainly aren’t going to bring peace to America until it is totally under Sharia law.

      • Donna says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 12:32 pm

        Totally agree.

    • Peter says

      Jan 11, 2015 at 3:02 pm

      Of the worlds 1.6 billion Muslims over 50% believe in establishment of Sharia law. That means over 800 million or more than double the population of the US and Canada , are radicals by all definition. Hoping the White House teaches this harsh reality.http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

  31. Rickfidel says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 8:17 pm

    People, STOP whining about a few attacks here or there from the groups that have nothing to do with Islam. Just because they SAY they follow the Koran and shout “Allah Akbar” simply means they are not truly Islamic…because Obama says they’re not.
    The wake up call has come and long gone for Britain, and soon will be for the USA unless we stop being politically correct and outlaw this cultural war disguised as a “religion”.

    • commonsensewoman says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 12:00 am

      You summed it up very well!

  32. silvergreycat says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    The White House may be reading Mr. Aslan’s book… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws5gsnmw50E

  33. Dapto says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    Josh if life was a fairy tale you would have a nose 40 feet long.

  34. Claire says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Here in Australia this morning, I heard a lefty apologist for Islam tv presenter, in relation to the Charlie Hebdo slaughter’s quote Koran 41:34 as “Fight evil by doing good”, or words to that effect, adding “Or as Jesus would say, turn the other cheek”. Someone in the background said that meant all our religions are the same!
    So I looked it up. Wont quote it here. Anyone can look it up on their iPhone. I went to the commentary by Dr Zohurul Hoque & Husain Nuri. As I understand it, it gives an Islamic justification, perhaps a Sharia sanctioned one, for the actions of the jihadist murderers on Wednesday. For it says what is considered evil in Islam should be punished by what is considered good in Islam and that ‘turning the other cheek is not a healthy moral response; crime must be, as Islam teaches, responded proportionate to its severity.” As depicting or insulting Mohammed is a crime under Sharia & the punishment is well known, you could indeed say Koran 41:34 was followed to the letter by the killers & once again there is egg on the face of that tv host who was no doubt told it meant something more Christian in its message.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 10:25 pm

      Very true, Claire. All too often, Westerners assume that everyone has more or less the same interpretation of “good”—but for a pious Muslim, butchering Infidels who dare to question Islam’s violence is “good”.

  35. Dave says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Do we need to redouble the efforts to understand the peaceful NAZIs?
    and really understand that the moderate Nazis aren’t a problem?

    After all, wasn’t it only the militant Nazis that were the problem? as that’s the case, why is the left anti Nazi? I’m sure that if there were Nazi’s in northern Idaho, or Tennessee, they’re not in charge of any railways or camps, so we should tolerate them instead of shun them. /s

  36. bicky says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    This hapless man is just obeying the Rasool s orders

  37. Champ says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    White House spokesman: US needs to “redouble” efforts to explain the true “tenets” of Islam

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Adding to the absurdity of this statement from Josh Earnest is his last name ..lol! 🙂

  38. Ellen says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    Why does Josh Earnest assume that we know nothing about this so called ‘religion of peace” I don’t recall any other religion beheading journalists in the name of their religion or stoning women to death for being victims of rape or “marrying’ children so as to deflect the fact that they are pedophiles. While not all Muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are Muslims. It is estimated that 15-20% of the Muslims are extremists. That’s roughly the population of the United States. Isn’t up to the 1.2 Billion “moderate” Muslims to stand up and fight these extremists. Are they that afraid even in the U.S. If so then obviously they don’t hold much hope for us.

    • Ashley says

      Jan 8, 2015 at 10:54 pm

      Well, Joe Biden had to recently school Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Islam…

      This situation is so fucked up.

      • commonsensewoman says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 12:03 am

        What could do do Joe possibly tell Ms Hirsi???

      • commonsensewoman says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 12:05 am

        What could Doe Doe Joe possibly tell Ms Hirsi about this subject that she doesn’t already know???

  39. Informed American says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 10:57 pm

    I really am getting tired of the WH treating me as if I am uninformed, low intelligence, and to be manipulated. Just who is controlling the WH so as to lie to the whole world about Islam?

    I find it remarkable that for years all we hear is “extreme terrorists” but all of a sudden it is about Islam. This is what it has been all along. Now the truth comes out.

    This deliberate lying and refusal to admit the facts has only led to the lack of trust in leaders that exists. How can you trust, when leaders do nothing but lie and that continually?

    This Brookings Institute refusal to call adherence to the Qu’ran as Islam needs to be called out for what it really is, mental dementia. It is sad to watch denial actually create mental illness, but that is what has occurred in the minds of many who consider themselves the guardians of mankind.

    Continual denial will only serve to increase the dementia, not bring utopia as certain leaders wish. Furthermore, lying about reality will only increase distrust and further chaos.

    Or perhaps this is the goal all along? I am sick and disgusted by all the lying.

    Denial will get all of us killed. (or perhaps that too is the goal, aka reduction of the world’s population by 95%)

    – Informed American

  40. Xipe Totec says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    WTF!! The White House and ALL GOVERNMENT needs to stay out of the fucking religious business. Get the muslims and the christers out of it. Stop with the fucking prayer breakfasts. Stop telling us about faith-based crap. Do the job of government, which is a secular function and get rid of the fucking crosses and bibles and korans and jewish shit. Jeezus fucking christ and mo, too, buy a damned clue about what government is about!

  41. reza says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 11:17 pm

    Islam it was an it is terrorist oganization which act as gangesters leaders are the god (allah) he orders and his dogs they kill innocent people .never was a religion because they never respect life .never any religion force thier idea to other people .Islam book was copied from worse ideas of old testamen by salman farsi , alots of lies ,Machiavellian thoughts,,and tries to brian wash the ignorat to kill their anemies.it is not for human use .It makes muslim to be traitor to his country.

  42. Ashley says

    Jan 8, 2015 at 11:31 pm

    A major rant brewing…and I have no safe place to vent but here so please feel free to skip over.

    I’m so fucking angry. I have lost friendships over this issue of Islam. I’m worn down, worn out.

    How Robert and others can continue to do what must be done, with so much bullshit resistance, is beyond me.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 7:05 am

      Just hang in there, Ashley. I think every one of us here has had these sorts of bad patches.

      Don’t give up. Give yourself a little break, listen to your favourite music, read your favourite book or do some gardening or whatever else it is you like doing, remind yourself what you’re fighting *for*.

      Maybe read a chapter or two of the book “Getting Through” and resolve to try out one or two of the suggested tactics. Rather than try to do everything and persuade everyone, spend some time just observing, watching and listening, doing recce – in your family, your social circle, workplace – to find that *one* person who might already be starting to ask questions. Try to think back to what it was like when *you* were just starting to say to yourself, “I’ve got a bad feeling about this [Islam]”.

      In the meantime, if you feel you aren’t doing anything to help the cause – put some money in Mr Spencer’s tip jar to help keep him going, or donate something to ACT for America.

      Right now, you can write a brief, heartfelt letter of condolence to the French Ambassador in the US. In the letter, when referring to the attack in Paris, you can use the straight talk we learn here at jihadwatch from Mr Spencer. Think of water dripping on stone. Each time the truth is told, however briefly, it just might make an impression on the mind of the person reading it. If the French Ambassadors in the US, Canada, Australia, UK, and other places all receive lots and lots of letters of condolence from the Islamosavvy citizens of those countries, all using the terms we’ve learnt at jihadwatch, then something might be learned by *somebody*.

      And if you’re Catholic, light a candle to St Jude – the patron saint of Lost (or Desperate) Causes.

      • Ashley says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 10:45 am

        dumbledoresarmy…many thanks for your thoughtful and comforting reply.

        I miss the days when I just dismissed Islam as a quaint and quirky religion. I thought there was a certain charm about adherents sticking their asses in the air a few times a day in prayer, observing odd dietary restrictions, sporting imaginative head wraps, etc.

        But I can’t un-ring the bell.

        Thanks again.

    • Angemon says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 9:55 am

      Ashley posted:

      “I’m so fucking angry. I have lost friendships over this issue of Islam. I’m worn down, worn out.”

      I know the feeling Ashley… I’ve came to think of it not as losing friends but as weeding out stupid and/or blindly naive people. But in the process I’ve learned how to make my points about islam in a way that’s “acceptable” to others. The most important thing I’ve learned is that when I say “islam” most people will hear “muslims”. When I get the “I know some really nice muslims who condemn terrorism, therefore what you say is invalid” reply, the response I give is “well, I don’t know them, and I’m not talking about them, I’m talking about islam. Islamic theology says such and such, and that won’t change because some muslims don’t know about it or choose to ignore it. Those doctrines exist, and muslims worldwide take them seriously enough to act upon them”.

      • Ashley says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 10:47 am

        Angemon…thank you, friend.

  43. DaNewtz says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 12:03 am

    Great, Just what I wanted my heard earned tax money spent on…….So much for separation of church and state…….I would be willing to bet that at least 1-2 billion a year is spent on Islamic BS when people Americans, some children starve, and freeze on the streets…..GO Obama!

    • DaNewtz says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 12:04 am

      (*Hard) earned tax money

  44. shoehorn says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 12:41 am

    no redoubling necessary … the true tenets of islam received loud & clear

  45. Anon says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 3:38 am

    Is it just me, or does Islam seem to need alot of help, whitewashing, propping-up, apologetics, excuses, and outside help. A few news articles today are stating “Islam vs. West: An ongoing clash of civilizations” – oh, it’s a “clash” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16u0wwCfoJ4

  46. Roger says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 4:40 am

    This isn’t hard to figure out, they’re proactively trying to avoid a backlash that can (as has before) lead to unwarranted racist attacks. They’re trying to trick people into stop killing and maiming each other because people aren’t as smart as they are tribal.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 7:28 am

      ”This isn’t hard to figure out, they’re proactively trying to avoid a backlash that can (as has before) lead to unwarranted racist attacks.”

      What crap. Kindly post some links to information about backlash that has led to ‘unwarranted racist attacks’ .

      By the way, islam isn’t a race.

      • Toby says

        Jan 9, 2015 at 7:28 pm

        spot on Mirren10. Among all the lies and distortions connected with Islam, the desire to always jump into the victim’s seat is perhaps the most disgusting. The same script gets rehashed after every attack; this has nothing to do with Islam, these people have mental health issues, Islam is the religion of peace and the final insult; we need to protect Muslims from the backlash of Islamophobic attacks. As far as I’m aware such backlashes have never occurred.

        In the Sydney siege Muslims spokesmen were on TV worrying about “backlashes” while the hostages were still being held at gunpoint. Two people were killed and there were zero repercussions.

        It’s an absolute disgrace and anyone who promotes that narrative is either a fool or a liar.

  47. duh_swami says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 5:08 am

    Since when is it govs job to explain any religion? Explaining the ‘true’ Islam means proselytizing and da’wah. Has Islam become the official government religion? Is the WH a mosque? Is Rasool Obama a stealth jihadist? The nest is full of vipers..

  48. noreen says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 5:24 am

    Puhleeze, someone tell that bozo white house occupant and his minions we don’t have the patiene to listen to the buulllsheet emanating from. the blah blahs he employs to spread that manure they are spouting. go back to kenya.

  49. duh_swami says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 6:06 am

    And…Megyn Kelly had some fat head loudmouth on who said, ‘Self censorship is freedom’…When it comes to Islam it is not freedom…it has another meaning ‘Please don’t hurt me’…It is fear induced capitulation to sharia…That’s not freedom it’s submission…

  50. Marcus says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 8:19 am

    Obama is a Musilim, thus the comments from the white house redouble our efforts to understand Islam….

  51. c says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 9:24 am

    how patronizing for a lib to try to preach to people who have read the koran hundreds of times. Some of the terrorists have memorized it. The terrorists are so dedicated to the message of islam, they are willing to lay down their lives. They must laugh at an American telling them what liberals wish Islam was. To anyone about to try to explain Islam as being peaceful, first at least read these verses right from the Koran: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

    • Kepha says

      Jan 9, 2015 at 9:21 pm

      Yes, c, you are right. This kind of blather from Mr. Earnest’s superiors makes me ashamed for my country whose diplomatic passport I once carried.

  52. Chaplain Mattingly says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    I am a retired born again US Army Chaplain (2010), and while BW022 and I would perhaps not agree on much (theologically), I find his/her explanation on Josh Earnest’s comments without parallel. Bravo, sir/ma’am!

  53. ploome says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    not wilull ignorance, rather obfuscation, or takkiya

    why does no one recall Obama;s muslim upbringing?

  54. Kepha says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    If Josh Earnest is in Earnest, the US is more badly led than even Uncle Kepha suspected.

    What business does a US government office have in explaining what the tenets of Islam really are? Is our liberal establishment so arrogant that it thinks it knows better than the faculties of a thousand madrassas what Islam is? Or is this some kind of wishful thinking that the whole Islamic world waits with bated breath for Foggy Bottom or the Oval Office to declare what it’s supposed to believe?

    It is agony for me to watch this sort of thing. True, thinking of those poor people dead in Paris and their survivors is perhaps more painful, for those are actual murders. But as a patriotic American, I hate it when my official spokesmen simply cover themselves with a shame they can’t even recognize when they pontificate about things of which they know next to nothing.

    Yes, show appreciation to every Muslim who sincerely condemns the murders.

    Yes, appreciate decent people of whatever ethnicity or upbringing who help bring murderers to justice.

    Yes, condemn violent acts, and express sympathy with the people of Paris who have been subjected to horror.

    Yes, explain that the United States does not condone or respect criminality.

    But, please, please, please, Mr. Obama, Mr. Kerry, Mr. Earnest, and others, don’t proclaim an expertise in a religion you do not profess and whose traditions, tenets, sacred books, and ethical sense is probably very foreign to you (re young Barry Soetero, I stick to my guess that he was just a vulnerable young new kid trying to “fit in” in a new and strange environment). No matter what your ideology tells you about how enlightened and objective you are, there are things beyond you, and this is one.

  55. John Connelly says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    Look at this video and spread it far and wide in the hope that it will open people’s eyes.
    ‘MODERATE” ISLAM SHOWS ITS TRUE FACE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAcLudBbhg

  56. jon says

    Jan 9, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    And I’ll start with saying it right here from their own idiology…

    Exposing the Koran

    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding.Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

    Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text.They are part of the “eternal, unchanging word of Allah”, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

    The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God, however this can work both ways.Most of today’s Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book’s call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence.Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny.Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

    Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed.Muhammad’s own martial legacy – and that of his companions – along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

    The Quran:

    Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing…

    but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)”The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).The use of the word “persecution” by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution – “idtihad” – and oppression – a variation of “z-l-m” – do not appear in the verse).The actual Arabic comes from “fitna” which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until “religion is for Allah” – ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

    Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”

    Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

    Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

    Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘joining companions to Allah’).

    Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.This is the theological basis for today’s suicide bombers.

    Quran (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

    Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

    Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-“This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’s eyes.It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad” doesn’t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.(The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

    Quran (4:104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…”Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

    Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

    Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

    Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.”

    Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah”Some translations interpret “fitna” as “persecution”, but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for2:193).The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.Other Muslims were allowed to travel there – just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad’s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah”, meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that “Allah must have no rivals.”

    Quran (8:57) – “If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.”

    Quran (8:59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah’s Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.”

    Quran (8:65) – “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…”

    Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion’s Five Pillars).This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

    Quran (9:14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…”

    Quran (9:20) – “Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’s way are of much greater worth in Allah’s sight. These are they who are triumphant.”The Arabic word interpreted as “striving” in this verse is the same root as “Jihad”.The context is obviously holy war.

    Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.””People of the Book” refers to Christians and Jews.According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.This was one of the final “revelations” from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad’s companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

    Quran (9:30) – “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”

    Quran (9:38-39) – “O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.”This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

    Quran (9:41) – “Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew.”See also the verse that follows (9:42) – “If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them”This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

    Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.”Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.It also explains why today’s devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

    Quran (9:88) – “But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.”

    Quran (9:111) – “Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.”How does the Quran define a true believer?

    Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”

    Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.”Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is “utter destruction.”(Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

    Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.”He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son.(Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

    Quran (21:44) – “We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?”

    Quran (25:52) – “Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness…” “Strive against” is Jihad – obviously not in the personal context.It’s also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

    Quran (33:60-62) – “If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.” This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered “merciless” and “horrible murder” in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to “fight in the way of Allah” (3:167) and hence don’t act as Muslims should), those with “diseased hearts” (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and “alarmists” or “agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad’s biographers.It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today’s terrorists do.If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah’s eternal word to Muslim generations.

    Quran (47:3-4) – “Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord.Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude.Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,”Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle.The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn’t do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.Those who kill pass the test. “But if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.”

    Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: “have the upper hand”) for Allah is with you,”

    Quran (48:17) – “There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.”Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means ‘spiritual struggle.’Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

    Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves”Islam is not about treating everyone equally.There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.Also the word used for ‘hard’ or ‘ruthless’ in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as ‘painful’ or severe’ in verse 16.

    Quran (61:4) – “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way”Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to “battle array” meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.This is followed by (61:9): “He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist.”(See next verse, below).Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

    Quran (61:10-12) – “O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of ‘Adn – Eternity [‘Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success.”This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

    Quran (66:9) – “O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end.”The root word of “Jihad” is used again here.The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include “hypocrites” – those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

    From the Hadith:

    Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

    Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).”In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

    Bukhari (52:65) – The Prophet said, ‘He who fights that Allah’s Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah’s Cause.Muhammad’s words are the basis for offensive Jihad – spreading Islam by force.This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.

    Bukhari (52:220) – Allah’s Apostle said… ‘I have been made victorious with terror’

    Abu Dawud (14:2526) – The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, “There is no god but Allah” and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

    Abu Dawud (14:2527) – The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

    Muslim (1:33) – the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

    Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’.And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.”

    Muslim (1:30) – “The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”

    Bukhari (52:73) – “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords’.”

    Bukhari (11:626) – [Muhammad said:] “I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.”

    Muslim (1:149) – “Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause…”

    Muslim (20:4645) – “…He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa’id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!”

    Muslim (20:4696) – “the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: ‘One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'”

    Muslim (19:4321-4323) – Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers.His response: “They are of them (meaning the enemy).”

    Muslim (19:4294) – “When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him… He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them… If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.”

    Bukhari 1:35 – “The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed).”

    Tabari 7:97 – The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.”Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad’s men because he insulted Islam.Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill.An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

    Tabari 9:69 – “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us”The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

    Tabari 17:187 – “‘By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.’ And they returned to their former religion.”The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah.The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’s head while screaming ‘Allah Akbar!’ is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.”Muhammad’s instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

    Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 – “Embrace Islam… If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship.”One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries.The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims.Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad’s armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.

    • c says

      Jan 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      That is a good summary, a more complete list is found at
      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm
      Different versions of the hadith have a lot more quotes from Muhammed being happy about and ordering the death of critics. We have to somehow get through to main stream media types and prominent politicians ignorantly promoting the lie of Islam being the religion of peace

  57. Sandra says

    Jan 10, 2015 at 12:17 am

    Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Stop trying to “redouble, the American people whom you consider ‘too stupid to know the difference’…. that wrong is the new right”.

    Go back to hell where you came from, take your sulfurous fog with you…and leave America and Israel ALONE!

  58. tgusa says

    Jan 10, 2015 at 1:11 am

    Josh is a committed (well, not quite yet) leftist. “We are working very closely with leaders in the Muslim community both at home and around the world.”

    And we thought our side was being sold out.

    Leftists, my advise to you would be, pay attention and beware.

  59. Truth Seeker says

    Jan 10, 2015 at 1:37 am

    Quran has 2 Parts. One for Open Jihadi Terrorists and other for Abettors of Terror. People who follow each part is well aware of their Role. What further will be done by US? Illogical

  60. Robert Young says

    Jan 10, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    Muhammad “what his name” was a Pedophile, plain & simple. To marry a girl at 6 and wait until she was 10 to consummate the wedding means Islam is wrong in so many ways. Yes people were promised in marriage that early, during the 6th Century Islamic world as they were in the Christian and Jewish world but, marriage consummation never occurred. My own family member was married at 14, but her son was not born until she was 22.

    Same goes with killing these cartoonists who make fun of Muhammad “what his name”. This is just a person using their religion to control someone else you have no rights to control.

    His (Muhammad “what his name” ) visions in the cave were not from God. They did however come from a former angelic being, for it was not the Angel Gabriel who appeared to him in the cave, but it was Lucifer (a.k.a. Satan, the Devil, etc.). Lucifer is also referred to as the Angle of Light and Father of Lies. Since Lying is sometimes ok to lie in Islam but never ok in Christianity, who can you trust; a Liar or the Son of God.

    Jesus is God, but Allah is not!

  61. Oliver says

    Jan 11, 2015 at 7:14 am

    I honestly don’t believe all Muslims are would-be jihadis or want Sharia; many are not deeply read in the texts and follow Muslim practices without thinking about hating the kaffir etc, and others know of those aspects but ignore them. I think what’s needed from those Muslims who do want to be integrated and like the west, is for community leaders/scholars to be honest about the stuff in the books that’s incompatible with western values and as a minimum for them to clearly reject anything that doesn’t fit in with the laws of the land where they live. One Muslim insists to me that the religion even says to follow the law of the land where you live, though I’m not sure if that’s true, or where it says that. But I would hope the religion could evolve to reject the unsuitable aspects, like Jews no longer stone people for all sorts of petty matters as they did in Old Testament times and they don’t take enemy women as sex slaves anymore like Moses and his men did with the Midianites, etc.

    • CB says

      Jan 11, 2015 at 9:26 pm

      Unfortunately, that does not make sense. You cannot take a religion and pick and choose what makes sense. The Religion is either true or it is not. A thinking person will either accept it all or reject it.

      If you are a true believer and do except it, then doing as Mohamed did makes sense.

      What the world needs is to shine the light on exactly what Mohamed did and the examples he gave. This should be taught everywhere so there is no confusion about Islam.

      If this “truth” is not palatable, maybe it would help those on the margins decide if this is really a religion of peace or not. If this truth is palatable to some, they should be called Muslims and we will know who they are and what they truly believe.

      • c says

        Jan 12, 2015 at 1:36 pm

        CB, people of all religions pick and choose what they want to believe and which rules they follow. Who are you or me to tell them they have to take it all or none. We are lucky most moslems don’t know about or choose to not risk their lives by trying to take ours. Before oil money, they were too poor to travel to kills jews or atheists. They’d just have to survive and be happy that Allah would at least torture them for eternity in the next life. Moderate moslems who have taken on the western love of freedom are more at risk of being killed by moderates than you or I are. They may believe in a series of horrible self-perpetuating memes, but we should still work with them to slow the spread of religious genocide

  62. OLiver says

    Jan 11, 2015 at 7:22 am

    Mohammed was probably not a pedophile (someone with a pathological sexual preference for pre-pubescent children as their sexual partners), but just an immoral over sexed person with too much power and no modern morals, who would shag anything that moved. If he was a pedophile he wouldn’t have had numerous wives and slave girls of adult age, including his first wife who has much older than him. And it is technically possible that Aisha had gone through puberty. In those days they generally did at least wait for that, though I read some Islamic scholars say it’s OK to have sex between the thighs with younger girls (charming…). I find myself playing “Devil’s advocate” a bit on this site, because I am not a Mohammed fan at all, but I like to see things from all sides.

    And like I said, Moses was no better, as shown famously in this bit from Numbers: 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

    • rev g says

      Jan 11, 2015 at 8:05 am

      The sparing of the virgins had nothing to do with sex. It was about their innocence, they could in no way be culpable for leading the jews into idolatry as the adult Midianite women had been. Also the command to let the virgins live and keep them for themselves did not devolve (as in the quran) into the pedophilic sexual lusts of the quran or anything like “what the right hand possesses”.
      In a very OT way, it was about sparing life. Those young girls, alone in the desert, would have certainly perished.

    • Angemon says

      Jan 11, 2015 at 9:33 am

      OLiver posted:

      “If he was a pedophile he wouldn’t have had numerous wives and slave girls of adult age, including his first wife who has much older than him.”

      Not really. He could be keeping up appearances, as to avoid complaints from his wives. And he could have married older women for political or financial reasons, like he did with his first wife.

      “And it is technically possible that Aisha had gone through puberty.”

      Doubt it. Aisha is reported as still playing with dolls, which wouldn’t happen if she had gone through puberty.

      “And like I said, Moses was no better, as shown famously in this bit from Numbers: 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.”

      Huh? Is that supposed to imply that Moses took them for sex?

      • c says

        Jan 12, 2015 at 1:40 pm

        hey, all kinds of sick #$%! can be found in the old testament. The god of that time was an insecure prick having tantrums and spewing hatred just like Muhammed’s god. The difference is, no Christians or Jews consider the genocidal verses to apply today, whereas many millions of moslems do. We need to explain to liberals that not all religions want peace or are alike – this is an important message for left leaning people of this generation to get

        • rev g says

          Jan 12, 2015 at 6:26 pm

          You might want to actually read the OT before making statements like that. Then compare it against allah.

        • c says

          Jan 14, 2015 at 7:01 pm

          I’ve read the OT a few times. A few things that come to mind: sisters banging their dad, other slut sisters seeking men hung like donkeys, a couple being impaled with a spear while copulating, people guts spilling out, references to people eatting their own children or their excrement, people being burned alive, general genocide. Verses appearing to advocate slavery. Luckily, no Christians or Jews really take a close look at the freaky stuff in the bible. However, in another major religion, people @#$! underage girls because they believe their prophet did. If we ask people to be honest about islam, we must admit the weird stuff in judeo-christian holy text – then one can point out which weird verses in which religions are a cause for trouble in the world TODAY

        • Angemon says

          Jan 14, 2015 at 7:14 pm

          c posted:

          “Luckily, no Christians or Jews really take a close look at the freaky stuff in the bible. However, in another major religion, people @#$! underage girls because they believe their prophet did. If we ask people to be honest about islam, we must admit the weird stuff in judeo-christian holy text – then one can point out which weird verses in which religions are a cause for trouble in the world TODAY”

          And apparently, c can’t see the contradiction on what he posted – first, neither jews nor christians know their sources, and then c can’t tell the difference between the OT and the quran regarding what’s causing trouble in toe world today. Because we see Jews and Christians everywhere reenacting what’s in the OT, right?

          c’s disingenuously false attempt at moral equivalence requires that the reader knows nothing about the OT – the violence in the OT is descriptive, not mandatory, like the quran’s open ended statements for violence against non-muslims. More, much of the “freaky stuff” wasn’t done by God’s chosen and was, in fact, examples of the depravity committed by the people they were commanded to fight against.

        • rev g says

          Jan 15, 2015 at 2:26 am

          But you are destroying his whole premise by pointing out the context!

        • Champ says

          Jan 14, 2015 at 7:22 pm

          c stated:

          I’ve read the OT a few times. A few things that come to mind: sisters banging their dad, other slut sisters seeking men hung like donkeys, a couple being impaled with a spear while copulating, people guts spilling out, references to people eatting their own children or their excrement, people being burned alive, general genocide. Verses appearing to advocate slavery. Luckily, no Christians or Jews really take a close look at the freaky stuff in the bible. However, in another major religion, people @#$! underage girls because they believe their prophet did. If we ask people to be honest about islam, we must admit the weird stuff in judeo-christian holy text – then one can point out which weird verses in which religions are a cause for trouble in the world TODAY

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Question: “Why did God condone such terrible violence in the Old Testament?”

          Answer: http://www.gotquestions.org/Old-Testament-violence.html

  63. c says

    Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    he majority of the world is not Christian and is not moslem – so the majority of the world already consider both religions to be wrong and probably a delusion. That is a reality. They can’t both be right – so at least one has to be a delusion. Any delusion should be refuted – it makes great sense to criticize and poke holes in religion even if insecure believers (who are most likely to be deluded) don’t want their irrationality questioned. This is not just a human right, it is imperative for the future of the planet to question even if it means to mock religion.

    • rev g says

      Jan 13, 2015 at 8:07 pm

      Well, someone is delusional anyways.

  64. Andy says

    Mar 23, 2015 at 1:21 am

    1 most of the other countries he mentioned are UN muslim countries.
    2 how many non muslim people are in iSis?
    3. Their book says it is ok to lie and steal from non believers.

    Redouble that and smoke it.

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