What was his “aggressive rhetoric against Muslims”? What were his “incredibly reckless” remarks? He said: “I’ve often heard Western leaders describe Islam as a religion of peace…I wish more Muslim leaders would say that more often and mean it.” And: “The Islamist death-cult has declared war on the world.” In response, instead of declaring their loyalty to Australia and showing themselves to be on his side against the terrorists, Muslim leaders in Australia are claiming victim status. How unfortunately predictable.
“Tony Abbott under fire from Muslim community after national security speech,” by Tom Decent, Sydney Morning Herald, February 25, 2015:
Muslim community leaders have voiced their anger at Prime Minister Tony Abbott over his national security speech on Monday, saying it did nothing but inflame tensions and belittle the efforts of Muslims leaders working to decrease community antagonism.
The Lebanese Muslim Association condemned the “aggressive rhetoric against Muslims” employed by Mr Abbott on Monday, labelling it “politically opportunistic” and unnecessary.
“The Prime Minister’s comments are incredibly reckless,” said Samier Dandan, President of the LMA. “Few would fail to see this newfound focus on national security as anything other than an attempt at gaining public approval, especially in light of the contemporary political climate.”
In a national security address on Monday, Mr Abbott argued the Islamic community could be be doing more to stop the spread of extremism.
“I’ve often heard Western leaders describe Islam as a religion of peace,” Mr Abbott said. “I wish more Muslim leaders would say that more often and mean it.”
Head of the Arab Council of Australia, Randa Kattan, said the comments were completely unhelpful.
“I’m really fired up about this, I couldn’t sleep last night,” Ms Kattan said. “The top man [Mr Abbott] needs to quit making these comments, they are not helpful.
“It is counterproductive and extremely insulting to many of us who have been working really hard on this. It just inflames sentiments that are bordering on hatred and racism.”
Ms Kattan said non-Muslims would be affected and would have to fan “not embers, but flames of racism” as a result.
“Anybody who looks like us [Muslims] has been tarnished now,” Ms Kattan said. “It impacts on wider groups who look like us, or might have olive skin, people can’t tell the difference sometimes.
“They are not unanimous objects, they are living breathing human beings that have lives, that have children. They want to continue living these lives.”
Keysar Trad, a spokesman for the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, was just as unhappy with Mr Abbott’s agenda.
He said he could not believe the Prime Minister talked down the efforts of Islamic groups.
“The government knows fully well how hard the Muslim community is working to help protect and improve the safety and security of Australia,” Mr Trad said. “Nothing has changed, I doubt they could pinpoint to anything we are doing less of than we are doing.
“This kind of message coming from a Prime Minister is very unhelpful in the circumstances.”
sound awake says
if youre takin flak…that means youre over the target
katherine says
He’s right on the mark now. Next thing he should do is release the entire bomb-load of Pamela Geller’s recommendations on how to rationalize the laws to stop this Islamisation Nonsense – immediately.
Australians must always remember what that buck-toothed Indonesian cleric had threatened the continent with – convert it to Islam by immigration and multiplication. Do more Mr Abbot, AUSTRALIANS ARE UNDER SIEGE and this is no phobia – it’s a fact.
Be ISLAMOSAVVY.
Anna says
Amen , ISLAM SAVVY !! Never be cowed Abbot, never surrender.
.Muslims are empowered by weakness but are really terrified when we are strong… I remember reading that an Arab in Palestine bemoaned the fact the British colonists were leaving ” oh no, now we will sink into medieval barbarism” He was right.
Arab Muslims needed control of the colonists over them.
We must show them who is boss and especially in our own countries. We can still overcome this, but only while they are still a minority.
Threaten in no uncertain terms to deport the lot of em to a “wonderful “muslim country if they don’t keep in line (where they can enjoy tyrannical sharia for breakfast, and no handouts,, welfare or any freebies under muslim rule , but we “understand ” their ” need ” to practise their ” religion” first and foremost and how cruel to deny them that ? )
Once they see we are serious, which mught initially take deportations, they will guaranteed back down.and idiot converts will revert back silently.. They only understand tough language. They never respond to kindness as all other peoples do, ever.
Charli Main says
“They never respond to kindness as all other peoples do, ever”.
That’s a fundamental component of Muslim DNA—bite the hand that feeds you at every opportunity.
Hopefully, the Aussies are waking up to the fact that Muslims haven´t come to Australia looking for a better life for their families—-they have come to take over the land for Allah.
The time is approaching when all Australia´s non Muslims communities will have to make a choice——-fight or order their burquas and night shirts.
particolor says
Wake Up ?? The Public Who has to live with them Woke Up Long Ago !!
We cant help it if we had a string of Retarded Governments !! …
That’s the Best Speech He has ever Made ! I wonder Who wrote it ??
Send a Copy to All Western Country’s ! 🙂
biff says
Imagine the pressure he is under to change the way he talks.
Changing Australia approach to handling Muslims is probably the USA #1 issue right now (for Democrats).
It’s hard to sell the lies in USA when others are thinking for themselves.
It sets a dangerous precedent.
Matthieu Baudin says
It’s good news for us that some political leaders are abandoning the appeasement scripts and starting to think out loud. We can probably now talk of a ‘Harper/Abbott Nexus’ a political ‘think tank’ in the English speaking world. The larger countries, the US and UK, may come lumbering along, to join in, somewhere down the track, when they realize that much of their citizenry are laughing at them.
PJG says
Unfortunately the knives are out for Abbott within his own party (inflamed by the press), and he could be soon replaced by an Islam-praising full-bore dhimmi, Malcolm Turnbull.
biff says
It’s all full circle.
As long as we buy oil from them, they make sure sure we are subverted to Islam.
We give them the money to do it.
Energy is dual policy for Obama. Environnemental plus Saudi.
Must appease Saudi Kings.
For Obama, enemy of my enemy is every “red blooded american”.
IE anybody resident before 1990?
EYESOPEN says
Oh, so they are “outraged” are they? Why aren’t they “outraged” at those who force non-muzlims to call muzlims who live out their vile “faith” for the 7th Century savages that they are? Instead of being “outraged” at PM Abbott, they SHOULD be outraged at their muzlim brethren who are raiding, raping and murdering in the name of their Satanic “god” – just like their so-called “prophet”, Mad Mo.
They are lucky that they are not shipped back – en mass – to the izlamic he11-holes from whence they came. Sorry, I have NO sympathy for muzlims constantly playing the “victim” card, while all around the world people are being killed or enslaved for being Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddist, or “apostate” muzlims, etc.
Gary says
Here Here!!! Bravo!!!
Richie says
Muslims believe Islam is superior and must reign over all- they do not tolerate criticism or those who stand up to them.
Bravo to the Australian PM. Now the second step is to deport the Muslim parasites who preach violence and refuse to adapt to western values
Ill bet Obama will condemn this PM and side with his fellow Muslims
occupant 9 says
“… they do not tolerate criticism or those who stand up to them.”
Yep. This is why they still bitch about the Crusades and are still pissed about losing Spain.
In fact, Muslims feel “humilated” when a people or nation regains their freedom from their “superior” Islamic overlords. Of course, war is the only redress for said “humilation.”
Such is the twisty and inverted pretzel of Islamic belief that they consider themselves the “best of people” following the “perfect man.”
There’s never been a better example of zero-sum than Islam.
Loretta Pienaar says
Tony Abbott can speak even more clearly! We are behind you all the way, Mr Abbott!! GO AND LET OTHER FIRST! WESTERN, CIVILISED WORLD LEADERS FOLLOW! AND FOLLOW NOW!!!
Don McKellar says
You can predict moslem responses as well as you can predict the hands on a clock. ALWAYS the victim. NEVER responsible for anything. Islam is NEVER the cause of ANYTHING with regards to Islamic jihad.
traci94 says
I think he did an amazing job; we need more leaders to be bold like him. He actually got on tv and said that his primary burden or concern was for the safety of the people of Australia. Wow! Imagine what it would be like to have the president actually be concerned for the safety of the people of the US. I have a vague recollection of that from presidents past.
Jaladhi says
There is nothing in this world that doesn’t incite, inflame Muslim anger against us. Poor Muslims are always peaceful and their religion is peaceful and they are always the victims even when they are beheading non-Muslims. Just look at what ISIS is doing capturing, enslaving, raping and beheading Christians and others in Syria and Iraq and the response from Muslims and our leaders is ISIS is not Islamic. That means it has nothing to with Islam and Muslims – that is how Muslims in west and all over the world just excuse their religion – and yet Muslims from the West are running to join ISIS. Are these Muslims not real Muslims??
You get the idea – we should not worry what Muslims here will say – we should help those Christians and others in Syria where ISIS Muslims are carrying out the genocide. To hell with Muslims in the West and other parts of the world, we should do what is morally right!! We cannot expect any moral behavior from Muslims!
Bezelel says
I listened to him for the entire clip and I didn’t hear anything to get upset about. He’s got a plan. Albeit it does sound as if the political winds are shifting which may get obola’s panties in a wad ( I hope). The part about losing or using bogus ID’s will keep obola out of Australia so bloody good for you mates.
mortimer says
Ms Kattan said. “The top man [Mr Abbott] needs to quit making these comments, they are not helpful.”
Right. Muslims have the same three responses: DENY, DEFLECT, DEMONIZE.
Terrorism has nothing to do with Islam….K.6.80 ‘Turhibbuna’ (terrorize them).
No…nothing at all to do with terrorism…deny, deflect, demonize…deny, deflect, demonize…
particolor says
Now look at all the Victims He has Created ?? 🙁
mortimer says
PM Abbott is pointing out the Muzzies are doing NOTHING to stop jihad.
They agree with jihad. Islam IS jihad.
Islam is the problem, not the answer.
The answer is deprogramming Muslims.
particolor says
You couldn’t De- Program them Barbarians in a Reactor !! 🙁
PJG says
They re outraged because he has broken the dhimmi pact and has not increased the jizya this year in accordance with a recently established tradition. What are all those Islamic organisations actually FOR? Well, one purpose is to be granted cash by the government to pretend to keep the “disability boys” (the “bludgjahadeen” as one wit calls them) in line. They don’t expect this “work” to be “voluntary”, one Islamic council “hinted” last week, after bragging that is ONLY because of the imams that there is peace in Australia…how very Mafia-like…
rubiconrest says
Tony Abbott is an example of a leader. Kudos go to his clear thinking and the reasonable preventive measures Australia is putting in place.
PJG says
“They are not unanimous objects, they are living breathing human beings that have lives, that have children. They want to continue living these lives.”
I can just imagine the poor woman tossing and turning all night, thinking such profoundly dramatic and heart-rending thoughts. It must be absolutely awful to think that the Prime Minister, no less, has noticed something is fishy about Islam and that the safety of Australians COMES FIRST, even before the pride of Muslims!.
Her life threatens to be never the same again! It is just too much! Oh, the horror!
What a performance; really it is a joke.
The Doctor says
“They are not unanimous objects…”
Just imagine this woman learning to speak ENGLISH.
PJG says
I just noticed something which should have stood out straight away, but the grammarian in me was too concentrated on her irritating “that”s. She said “unanimous” instead of “inanimate”.
Of course, it could have been the journalist who got it wrong.
pumbar says
Or it might’ve been a Freudian slip that reveals she can’t wait until they are unanimous…
somehistory says
I noticed that too. As many errors as they make on a regular basis, am not going to jump on whoever wrote what she said.
adjective: unanimous
(of two or more people) fully in agreement.
Well, they don’t agree with anything the PM said. They don’t speak in agreement among themselves or there wouldn’t be the strife between sects and individuals. So, she was right in that sense.
The only thing on which they agree is that they must take over the world for satan and do it as soon as as horrific as possible. Not by showing peace and love, but by force and tyranny. And a whole, heck of a lot of whining and complaining about how terribly they are treated as they are doing all they can to live their lives.
One other thing, she threw in the part about the *olive skin* in order to give out the tickets for guilt trips for all who would not *know* if it was a muslim, but might mistake a non-muslim for one of islam’s slaves.
Not to worry lady. The *supremacism* sticks out like a sore thumb.
Charli Main says
They are trying to play the race card, very common practice in the UK.
Christianity is the ” white man´s religion” and anyone that is black or brown should be Muslim. Being Muslim, is the way to stand up to and fight those nasty white, racist bigots.
Mo says
“Muslims outraged at PM’s “aggressive rhetoric against Muslims””
As the great Andrew Breitbart used to say:
So?
Mo says
@ Westman
Great quote. I still miss him so.
Roy Mears says
I can’t see any problem, they are outraged about everything. I think the PM should go one step further and tell them if they don’t like their lives in Australia, pack your bloody bags and leave. Then pass a law that if anyone riots of calls for Sharia they are immediately deported. Trying to use Sharia gets you shot problem solved because without Sharia muslims are just another crackpot cult.
Sam says
Can anyone give me an example of benefit of Islam to a person, group or nation.
Muslims do nothing but complain about everything but themselves and kill. They are never thankful of any thing. What an evil cult.
Champ says
Can anyone give me an example of benefit of Islam to a person, group or nation.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No, Sam. I find *zero* benefits of islam to a person, group or nation …or to any part of the world. Zero!
particolor says
Blood Sucking Parasites That Strip Western Nations down to their Underwear !!
gravenimage says
That’s because you’re a civilized person, Champ. Islam has brought lots of “benefits” to pedophiles, rapists, pirates, thieves, thugs, bullies, and murderers.
particolor says
Cut off their Welfare and Halal Prophet’s UM ? Profits and see how long they Infest us before Vamoosing !!
Xero_G says
Here we see again, a common trick/tactic used by those who can’t dispute the substance of an argument; they instead attack the tone, the timing, the setting, the rhetoric, the person, etc instead of the SUBSTANCE of an argument.
Remember when Mitt Romney came out against then Sec. of State Hillary Clinton for apologizing to Muslims for the YouTube video that “caused” the “spontaneous riot” in Benghazi 9-11-2012? Romney was savaged in the media for the TIMING of his criticism (before the bodies of the American victims were put to rest”) but media never addressed the substance of his rightful criticism.
AJ Liberphile says
Walid Shoebat has a whole investigation on his website about how that whole ‘innocence of muslims’ movie was made by a moslem terrorist agent provocteur to provoke riots, embassy burning, murders etc. Apparently his counsin’s friend did it.
gravenimage says
I have a great deal of respect for Walid Shoebat, but the idea that the “Innocence of Muslims” was so outrageous that it must have been created as a deliberate provocation to Muslims seems unlikely.
There is, in fact, little that is not wholly factual in the piece, despite its being so poorly made, And that fact that the framing device—the best made part of the video, incidentally—is a depiction of Muslims threatening and oppressing Copts in the present-day seems to argue for it having been produced by Bakula.
The bigger question is why any of us think it ‘reasonable’ that Muslims riot and murder over any criticism of Islam’s violence.
As for Benghazi, it was pretty obvious that they attacks were planned before the release of this trailer.
No Fear says
Abbott has said nothing unreasonable.
Nothing.
No Fear says
“They are not unanimous objects, they are living breathing human beings that have lives, that have children. They want to continue living these lives.”
Oh for a minute I thought this was referring to the non-muslim victims of Mohammed and his pack of henchmen as they plundered their way across Arabia.
Mega Kovalan says
All world leaders should talk against Islam, following Abbot. if he continues talking against Islam, others follow, and it will force the Muslims to change the stance. They get courageous only when the they get appeased. Muslims generally are silent under strict law, so the more appeasement they get they are cry babies, cry the mythical islamophobia, support terrorism, and of course, the vile ideology of Islam. Bravo Abbot!
realetybytes says
ISIS is islam perfectly described by koran and moHAMed! the moslems anywhere not killing for their savage cult are infidels and apostates to true islam and isis!
Big mal says
They should be thankful they are not living in Austria…which has just past strict laws controlling Islam and Muslims .
They are also complete hypocrites …there is almost no ME Arab Muslim shit hole that would give non believers and Christians the same freedoms that these wingding no hopers receive in our country
Legion says
So again, yawn, Muslims are not a race. I assume it’s media-political card-playing that they always yell, “Racism!” They can’t actually be that stupid, can they?
Also, what is it that Muslim “leaders” in Australia are doing, all that hard work they’re talking about in the article? If they’re implying they hold their fanatic masses in check I’d like to suggest they’re doing a pretty lackluster job given the various terror/radicalization news reports regularly coming from down under.
Oh, and: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LHDxqigCco4/TpeLXt1w0GI/AAAAAAAADf8/4_aWa4D_QEE/s1600/fry.jpg
Sarel says
Tony Abbot don’t back down, the world needs people to speak up against the muslim double standards
The Infidel says
Well descendant of goats and donkey, I am completely offended and insulted when each Friday you call me a descendant of pigs and apes.
I am completely offended when you pray for my death, when you declare that you will force me to pay a poll tax feeling humiliated in submission.
I am completely offended when you say you should be able to walk into my house, steal my hard earned goods, rape my wife, while making me watch and thanking you for doing it.
I am completely offended when you project your end onto me, while giving yourself an out, by saying you just have to say it was all for allah, islam and mohummad.
I am completely offended when I have to put up with your medieval attitudes, if you want to be a Neanderthal then move to a muslim majority country where they live in such conditions.
I am completely offended when you blame me for your lack of intelligence, work ethic, morals, ingenuity, or ability to contribute to anything besides death toll of muslim and non muslim alike.
When and if you decide to enter the 21st century and become a civilised human being, then I might begin to listen to anything you have to say, you whinging savage.
particolor says
I’m OFFENDED when the Spit on the Backs of people and think Nobody saw it !! 🙁
Or is that a Muslim Tradition to Dhimmi’s ??
particolor says
Now they Have DESTROYED a Museum in Mosul !!
Excuse …. Worshiping Idols ? Yeah Right ??
I wonder what part of NOBODY was worshiping those Idols those Vandalising Brain Dead Blood Clots didn’t understand !!
Crixus says
Brilliant summary Westman, do you mind if I link it to the Carlos mallet blog?
WR Xavier says
It was beautiful. The Islamists crawled out of the woodwork like the termites they are and threatened him and the nation as would be expected along with their douchebag Grand mufti who cant even speak english. Would be interesting to know which of the groups on the list published by Andrew Bolt have been infected by islamists. Read his comments here:
http://islaminaustralia.com/2015/02/19/muslim-community-rejects-abbott-governments-demonisation-and-condemns-moves-to-silence-legitimate-criticisms/
Now the leftist cowards on the Government backbench along with some of its lefty loving ministers and the retarded leftist abbott hate media are trying to spill the PM and replace him with a member of the party that would be better and more suited to the ALP our Leftist luvies party here. If it succeeds it will be the death of the Conservative party in this country.
Take a look at Andrews site with the Spill2 info:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php
RonaldB says
Sorry, WR Xavier. Your second reference tells me nothing at all, not being familiar with Australian politics, except that the Prime Minister is under pressure.
Laura says
“They are not unanimous objects, they are living breathing human beings that have lives, that have children. They want to continue living these lives.”
I wonder if he meant ‘inanimate objects?’
And I’m sure that the many thousands of people slaughtered by muslims around the world would agree that they were, ‘ living breathing human beings that have lives, that have children. They want to continue living these lives.”
Lia Wissing says
Go, Mr Abbott! Millions in the West are putting our trust in you.
Caveman says
“They are not unanimous objects, they are living breathing human beings that have lives, that have children. They want to continue living these lives.”
Thank you Ms Kattan for stating this nice news, now will you please let us continue living our lives as well?
Probably not; only your lives and way of living matters and the rest of us just have to give way.
Ann says
How incredibly quickly Muslims scream at the slightest supposed insult. Mr. Abbott could have said a heck of a lot worse considering the onslaught on his people from Islam.
Seems to me that so-called moderate Muslims do very little to nothing about the extremists. They lie “taqqiya” when they say they do.
Those who believe moderate muslims are ‘nice’ need to recognize how nasty they become if they believe they are victims.
Caveman says
“This kind of message coming from a Prime Minister is very unhelpful in the circumstances.”
Well your kind of message (maiming, bombing, lying, destroying, burning, cutting, murdering etc…) is very helpful in the circumstance.
Weavo2 says
What a magnificent leader! To bad our president can’t be the same!
Michael V Wilson says
I watched Tony Abbott’s entire speech while eating breakfast and it was about as dry and bloodless as you can get. The idea that his remarks were “reckless” or “aggressive” in any way against Muslims is ridiculous.
I’m a blood-bought, born-again Christian and I assure you, MY remarks would have been couched in the strongest words available in the English language, with such terms as Salvation and Damnation thrown about with wild abandon. Mister Abbott’s speech didn’t even come close to that level.
Sibor Nikolic says
PM speech was nice, calm and not offensive in any way. Yes we have to be ready to defend our country and our way of life from these primates. Never let the Kosovo scenario to bi applied here, like you let them in, and they have only one idea: how to become the majority, abuse the welfare system, convert or kill you eventually.
Bill says
What do you mean by “blood bought”?
Proud English Infidel says
Blood bought simply means that the crucifixion of our Lord Jesus Christ paid the penalty for our sins. His blood was shed on the cross for our salvation. If you read any of the four Gospels, this explains the matter in more detail.
torino390 says
oh dear. you’ve got it bad.
M S case says
Anything at all that anyone says against these blood thirsty heathen reprobated sand eating, monsterous. demented, pig brained.,demagogue, satan worshiping moon god lovters,,,,,Is better than saying nothing at all Like the POTUS. I applaud Mr Abbot for at least getting up and saying something about these murderers. He may be liberal but this wasn’t a liberal speech. but wish he had thrown a little more umph into it.
particolor says
And had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam either !!
THE HINDU says
Well said, Mr Abbott!! You could have been a bit more forceful. The only thing these brutes fear is physical strength. Historically, the world over, muslims have played victim and cowed down when they realise that they are facing a stronger opponent. The penalties for islam initiated acts should be made extremely severe, and this alone will bring them in line. Do not allow Australia to become like Europe. A wise country will learn from the experience of other countries. Islam is not a divine religion but a criminal culture.
THE HINDU
danny says
‘The future must not belong to those who insult the prophet of Islam’….Barracks Hussein Obama (US President)
Lord Wrath says
No!!! The future should belong to those who would insult Obama!!!
Andy says
Muslims are always playing the victim card
Rob Crawford says
Imagine how traumatic it is to have your victim’s blood all over your nice clothes. Why, we can hardly imagine the heartache faced by devout Muslims…
danny says
‘No one should makes excuses for muslim jihadists….’….Abott (Australian prime minister).
obama is a traitor and the americans are too soft.
More Ham Ed says
I wonder if it’s just a Tiny Minority ™ that is ready to go berserk at the drop of a hat. I would say it’s at least 400 million some say more:
I wonder if believing in the death penalty for leaving Islam is considered radical. Even the nothing-wrong-with-Islam Pew Forum states the following about Sharia law:
Penalty for Converting to Another Faith – The percentage that believe this is 67.60% based on ten Muslim majority countries in the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa. Based on the Muslim population of those countries, that results in 353 million people (at a minimum) who currently, and firmly believe in the death penalty for leaving Islam.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
TH says
Thank you for including the link to this Pew Forum survey which is very important and also serious. It gives the lie to the “small minority” talk.
What should be done with muslims in the West. In my opinion and this seems to be an opinion held by converts from Islam, firstly try to get the message of the real nature of Mahommad via movies, Cable TV and in general audiovisual means as they don’t read. Many of them when they find out what a scumbag Mahommad really was, are likely to give up on it, especially if they have gotten used to Western ammenities. Give them a solid dose of the truth. Second, apply all the rigour of the law to them, against polygamy; no privileges of any sort, plus expuslion of illegal immingrants. Third, investigate what Imans are preaching and if they are preaching terrorism let them face the consequences,prison. Liikewise, stop all foreign money coming into the country for building of mosques and madrasses, plus investigate what they are doing with the so called charity, which may well be going to jihad.Close down mosques and madrasses if they they don’t stop promoting jihad. Fourth, offer them money to leave the country and go back to their Islamic homeland, guaranteeing them that those who have paid into Social Security will get what is their due. More of the work that David Wood and Fr. Zaccharias Boutros are doing would be very helpful. In Iran, they youth have no interest in Islam and the mosques are empty. If America had had a decent President and not Obama,when the young people of Iran rebelled a few years back, he would have supported themj. In fact, I believe that the Ayatollahs had a plane ready to get out of the country. However, it seems that Obama has decided to support Iran and has given up on Saudi Arabia, which could help bring about the downfall of the dollar.
More Ham Ed says
It’s true, David Wood delivers very concise descriptions on what Islam is doing whether stealth jihad as mentioned below or outright violence as appears in the news almost daily. There are great David Wood youtube videos if you haven’t found them before, just type David Wood in the youtube search box fyi.
John Stefan Obeda says
Ali Sina said: “Islam’s biggest enemy is the Quran. If people learn what is in that book, Islam will be finished.”
Mo says
@ John Stefan Obeda
“Ali Sina said: “Islam’s biggest enemy is the Quran. If people learn what is in that book, Islam will be finished.” ”
What I cannot comprehend is how people can be Muslims and NOT know what’s in the Quran. How can you follow a religion if you don’t even know what its central text says and teaches? Or rather, why would you WANT to? Why would you say that you believe/love a religion and then refuse (or least neglect) to read its central religious text?
That’s absolutely mind boggling to me.
voegelinian says
You’re framing the problem in a limited way, as though our only problem is whether a large number of Muslims will explode, and under what circumstances.
It’s more complicated than that.
And the complications indicate, after the mountain of data we have has been intelligently digested and the ocean of dots we have intelligently connected, that the problem is two-fold: it involves virtually all Muslims, not just some magical percentage cooked up in a Daniel Pipes Pipe Dream; and it involves a diverse array of tactics by Muslims including many different flavors of terror plots, civil unrest, and criminality, deployed in a complex context of immigration (= infiltration into the West) and stealth jihad
More Ham Ed says
Pretty illustrative though, maybe not to you, but to those who don’t know anything about Islam, and for grabbing their attention for a minute, to get people to read further, and maybe discover more details as you elude to.
Jay Boo says
I would have to agree with voegelinian in that “it involves virtually all Muslims” but with some reservation.
I agree in the sense that Islam itself is so fundamentally flawed that to be a Muslim is to be inherently part of the problem. The “mountain of data” complexity approach however seems to be over-thinking the root defects built into Muhammad’s psychopathically designed ideology.
cynical1 says
“Tony Abbott under fire from Muslim community”.
Makes a change from civilians in Sydney coffee shops.
Jimbo says
always offended. always complicit and apologetic for the atrocities that the islamic terrorists perpetrate in the name of their beloved Mo-man !! and never with the cause to try and stop them. what a joke they all are !!
the stupid “Grand Mufti” in Australi cant even speak english….. and to show his supremacist attitude, gave a 15 minute press conference after the Lindt Cafe islamic jihad atrocities all in Arabic !@!@ not one journalist understood a damn word this idiot said. if he was trying to gain ppls respect…. most did not understand a word he said what an idiot !
even the journalists had to ask for interpretation.
how totally supremacist of him.
also Tony Abbott appears to about to be de-throned by internal politics. the man replacing him will be left of right, a believer in climate change and human rights and civil liberties etc. he wont take a hard stance on the jihad movement at all. such a shame !!
voegelinian says
I wonder if the government officials and journalists were even minimally smart enough to deploy a Christian Arab to provide a second translation, to make sure the Grand Mufti wasn’t weaving in some extremism just to thumb his nose at the Kuffar with insinuations of a threat.
Angemon says
What’s that? Muslims are raging mad at something? And that something isn’t violence committed by muslims in the name of islam but the Western reaction to violence committed by muslims in the name of islam? What else is new?
Also, I’d appreciate that the press stopped using the term “outraged” when talking about muslims’ reactions. Muslims can’t ever be outraged because it’s physically impossible to out-rage a muslim – you’ll never meet any group more willing, or easier, to anger.
Angemon says
To add to what I said, the truth is that muslims outrage anyone, in any sense of the word. I’m outraged by islam and muslims, and any muslim who learns about my outrage will surely out-rage me out of principle.
jayell says
Message to muslims, especially in Australia. Muslims ‘demand’ this, are ‘outraged’ at that. muslim ‘fury’ at something else. Well, if any muslims are reading this 1. YOU don’t ‘demand’ , you ‘ask’, and if you’re told to run away and do something else, you like it or lump it; 2. If you’re ‘outraged’ or ‘furious’ about something we say or do on this side of civilisation, tough, because most of the rest of civilised humanity is pretty well permanently ‘outraged’ and ‘furious’ at you. Full stop.
John P says
You know if you do not like the environment of a country, you are free to go anywhere that you might feel more comfortable. For Islamists, maybe you need to consider Somola!
Hummer says
Nice to see an Aussie wake up and do something. As far as I remember they have been in every war we have been in as an ally. We are counting on them to help wake up the western world to what we are facing and take concrete steps to do something about it.
Joe Shmo says
These comments are extremely helpful!
Jeff says
Muslims continue to make themselves unwelcome by their own actions and words.
xxxcChurch100 says
It appears Mr Abbot might have viewed on Utube : “Clare Lopez with Q society in Sydney 2014 ”
Ms Lopez outlines exactly what is taking place worldwide an Islamic jihad , and the methods employed with frightening accuracy …
Check it out !!!
Wellington says
One more step in the right direction.
lebel says
“declaring their loyalty to Australia”
Is there no one in the Australian muslim community to apply some taqqiya and declare their loyalty “wink” ” wink”?
gravenimage says
More Muslim apologia from lebel.
voegelinian says
Abbott’s speech was forceful — about the Tiny Minority of Extremists, with only vague allusions to a problem that might mildly disturb that dogmatic Meme. His speech’s robustness should not be measured by the typical reaction of Muslims. They play their grievance-card at the slightest sign of tepid displeasure, so it’s hardly a reliable barometer.
Martin Vink says
To realise that Islam may not be peaceful is like realising that the Emperor has no clothes. It goes against the peer pressure that requires us to pretend that all is well. This is not an admission that Mr Abbott wanted to make, hence it is meaningful.
particolor says
Have they called Him an “Islamaphobe” yet !! 🙂
DRDIAS says
Islam is the face of a pure evil enemy who will stop at nothing to murdered us, destroy our culture, our way of life, and enslave our children, our daughters, our wives, our sisters without a second thought or second of hesitation!
IsIs with its Islamic overt disdain for western culture, all other ethnic groups, and all other religions hastily brought about by conspicuous self-compelled blind obedience to the male dominated Islamic books, the Qur’an, the Hadith, the Surah, and Sharia Law.
There is no logical, moral, ethical, academic, social, or even any irrational reasoning to compare the Male Dominated tyrannical dictatorial Ideology of Islam to any known Religious, Culture or Ethnic group.
pe says
My uncle fought with the Australians, side by side, in the South Sea Islands during WWII. He said they are wonderful and warm, but not to be trifled with. Many a Japanese and pro-Japan natives discovered that the hard way.
I am glad Australia has awakened. Maybe they will lead the way in dealing with a subversive infiltration.
Johnf says
All non Muslim people should realise what the phrase “taqiyya and kitman” means.when translated from Arabic to English. There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances: taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those: 1. To advance the cause of Islam by lying. 2. In some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers to draw out their vulnerability to defeat them. Both are allowed in Islam – to lead people into a false sense of security. 5th columnists come to mind.
Beware, in my opinion Muslims are doing just this and are not to be trusted, those that profess peace, maybe lying to further the cause of Islam, and others just to gain your trust so other hard liners can infiltrate your culture and country.
I lived with them for many years, “I know them for what they really are”!!!
particolor says
The public know this ! And the InfilTRATORS have had their FREE LUNCH !! When are we going to Deport them back to their Lands of PEACE that they Reluctantly left !!
RM says
He didn’t say anything wrong at all, it’s about time political correctness go.
People really need to get educated on this because it’s not going away and we can learn so much from what has happened in England and Europe.
Watch this clip to hear what mainstream moderate Islam actually think:
http://youtu.be/4OA4nlfRJuA
particolor says
And wasn’t that crowd of Wankers Pre Trained well down at the Mosque before the Fake Meeting ??:-)
Richard says
Although he is from the Liberal Party, this is not a typical liberal attitude. This is usually a conservative attitude. That’s good to see the liberals acting conservative. And congratulations to Australia for having waken up.
particolor says
And weren’t they all Well Pre Versed nicely down at the Mosque before the Fake Meeting ?? 🙂
Why were the Kids raising their hands ? They wouldn’t know Shit from Clay !!
I liked the Bloke YAWNING in the front there ! 🙂
And Arrest that person who let that Bunch of Gorillas off the plane ! Out the front there !!
gravenimage says
These are actually very measured remarks from Mr. Abbott. It is only in this insane “politically correct” environment of victim mongering that Mohammedans could make this out to be “aggressive rhetoric against Muslims”.
particolor says
Its a pity He didn’t throw some Juicy Aussie Speak in there And the Inbreads might have got the Message Big Time !! 🙂
Robi says
Kudus to Australia for having a PM that says it like it is. Unfortunately in the U.S., our President and his administration are still endangering the U.S. by continuing to spew the “religion of peace” nonsense. Transforming Islam into a more tolerant religion will be difficult and maybe impossible, since Islamic holy texts prescribe the terrorism we are seeing and Islam’s most revered scholars continue to uphold those terrorist actions.
rabrooks says
“:Few would fail to see this newfound focus on national security as anything other than an attempt at gaining public approval, especially in light of the contemporary political climate.”
Excellent! Yes the best way, for the govt, to gain “public approval” is to show that the govt is protecting us!
The mental jihad, is for us to believe that protecting ourselves from radical pislam, is islamophobic, racist, nationalist, blah blah blah………………..
Heather says
Muslims are all just outraged all the time. It’s what they are. They’ll never show loyalty to anything other than their ‘leader’ satan and his dead mouthpiece NoHAMmad. You’ve only got to look at their mindset of We are the religion of peace and we’ll kill everyone who doesn’t agree and if you do agree we’ll kill you anyway. Completely insane.