Not that this has anything to do with Islam, you greasy Islamophobe. “Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, ruthless to the unbelievers” (Qur’an 48:29).
“Man stabs two at a bus stop after asking them if they’re Muslim,” by Abby Ohlheiser, Washington Post, February 17, 2015 (thanks to A.M.H.):
A Detroit man stabbed two people at a suburban bus stop after asking his victims whether or not they were Muslim, according to police. Federal authorities are now looking at the case as a potential hate crime, police said on Tuesday.
Both of the victims were standing at the bus stop outside of Detroit with the suspect on Saturday, Southfield Police Chief Eric Hawkins said. Several people there “engaged in conversation” until the suspect, identified by Hawkins as 39-year-old Terrence Lavaron Thomas, “asked some of the folks there if they were Muslims.”
Two of them answered, the chief told The Post on Tuesday: They were not Muslims.
“[Thomas] was not not happy with that answer,” Hawkins said. Shortly after, “without provocation,” Thomas pulled out a 3-inch folding knife “and attacked one of them,” Hawkins said.
Both victims are in their early 50′s. One was stabbed five times in the attack. The other was stabbed in the hand as he tried to stop the attack, Hawkins said. Both were released from the hospital with “non-life threatening injuries.”
Thomas then fled the scene, Hawkins said. Police arrested him “within minutes.” He was carrying two knives — one of which appeared to be the one used in the attack — and some marijuana, according to Hawkins.
Although authorities have not made a statement on the suspect’s motive, Hawkins added that “we do know that he was not happy that [the victims] indicated that they were not Muslims.” Thomas “said that he was a Muslim,” Hawkins said.
Thomas was charged with two counts of assault with intent to murder, one count of carrying a dangerous weapon, and one count of possession of a controlled substance — all state charges.
Thomas could face a state charge of ethnic intimidation as well, Hawkins said, but county prosecutors were still determining whether it would be added or not….
What ethnicity is Muslim? Why are they still determining whether or not to add this charge, when it’s obvious that these crimes were motivated by the perpetrator’s Islamic faith?
jihad3tracker says
Here we go again with another human face that RADIATES the brilliance of Islam.
cs says
Yep, very inspiring face and attitude, he “misunderstood” the merciful acts of the prophet of Islam.
Nicu says
retarded inbred !
I don’t get it why they still are on this Planet !
terry says
I know that some won’t like it, but I’ll say it anyway.
The west in its current state of mind, is a hopeless case!
Alissa says
Hey Good Lookin’. What a fine specimen of muslim masculinity.
TheBuffster says
Whoa! That is one idiotic-looking brain-dead zombie-face
Champ says
Wow if I ever need to look at something before bed to help me fall asleep faster–oh wait, never mind, that picture might give me nightmares …
Richie says
Another homicidal muslim with the dead shark eyes
gerard says
“Federal authorities are now looking at the case as a potential hate crime,”
Should read:
Federal authorities are now looking for ways to show how Islam had nothing to do with it.
Here’s a suggestion: work on the marijuana angle. He wasn’t used to marijuana. His behaviour was atypical. Who ever heard of a muslim wielding a knife?
traci94 says
I feel like I am living in bizarre-o world. Why do we need to “determine the motives”; I think they are pretty darn obvious. I guess CAIR will say that this crime will be unfairly attributed to Islam as well.
gerard says
“asked some of the folks”…
What is this ? Obamaspeak?
somehistory says
“Folks” (in the plural)…used to mean…and to me still does….family, not strangers or the population in general. When it’s used as it is in this instance, I cringe.
katnis says
Infuriating for a few reasons…
1. We see more violence from muslims against non-muslims than the other way around
2. We hear more about Islamophobia than any other type race-related “phobia”
3. Lovely Michigan provides a home for violent criminals like this guy
4. Lovely Michigan provides resources where this thug can be inspired by other fanatics
SHHHHH…. See the muslim street jihad, but don’t discuss it. Witness the muslim street jihad, but don’t fear it.
On the contrary, go about your daily business, paying taxes, doing your job, and trying to be a decent human while your country invites and PAYS FOR more islamic-inspired psychopaths to come into the wonderful free world that you helped fund and create!
mortimer says
What? Islam is a ‘race’ now?
When does Christianity become a ‘race’ as well?
somehistory says
It isn’t safe to go to work or shopping, to stand waiting for a bus, to go to a synagogue, to be a soldier, or police officer, woman, or little girl. There are *people* who just might…maybe…possibly…hate us for not woshipping satan and his beast. And to show how much they may…maybe, possibly…hate us, by using knives, hatchets, swords, guns, cars…thereby making our lives more uncertain than many, maybe any, of us have experienced before.
(Rev.13)
mortimer says
Koran 8.60 “Terrorize them.” (turhibunna)
somehistory says
Yeah, that.
I’ m thinking that I’ll be riding the bus soon, maybe go shopping for something…I love those Kosher wieners…Hebrew National…only kind I eat. That makes me a winner. That and my faith in the real God.
Angemon says
No, no, no, no, no! The official narrative is that muslims are ALWAYS the victims, NEVER the aggressors. Who do these “federal authorities” think they are, doing their job properly rather than finding a way to stick to the narrative?
Look, the Chapel Hill murders were clearly hate crimes and terrorism because the victims were muslims. This is not a hate crime and never will be, because it would create a unhealthy climate of fear regarding muslims and create a serious backlash, capisce? How soon can you waste manpower and resources… erm, I mean, give reinforced protection to mosques and islamic community centers?
How long until we see the blogosphere claim this attack was a CIA false flag, or even the work of Israel and the Mossad, just to make the muslims look bad?
bobm says
have you heard the term…”demoniac”..??…how about “dead man walkin”?
David Neeley says
Obama’s next statement:
“It has nothing to do with Islam. He killed them because they were non-muslim.”
Our governments are forcing us more and more to the right every day in Europe. We’re in the position where if we don’t stand up and fight back soon we will be outnumbered and they can just vote in Sharia law.
I’m ashamed to say in the UK our government has banned Robert Spencer, Geert Wilders and Pamela Geller for “inciting hatred”. Whilst we have moslems openly calling for more attacks against non-moslems, to over throw the government and our police force to “go to hell”.
Do not let it get this far in America.
Judo Chop says
The PA definitely won’t be begging to be part of this police investigation
Thomas Hulting says
If Barack Hussein Obama had a son, he’d look like Terrance Lavaron Thomas!
Georg says
That’s who you want taking your daughter to the prom!
Sam says
Again, this has nothing to do with the religion of peace even if the man asked to the victims if there were muslims. The context of the conversation should be analized and we should take action to protect the muslims in the city from a possible backlash from Islamophobes. The best course of action is really not to talk about this incident at all. Yes I am a liberal. Thank you very much.
dumbledoresarmy says
Offtopic a bit; but not entirely.
Paging all Australian jihadwatchers, but most especially any who happen to live in Sydney or within reasonable travelling distance.
In response to the latest Muslim mayhem – the ritual murder of 21 Coptic Christians in Libya – the Australian Coptic Movement are having a rally – “Stand With the People of the Cross” – in Martin Place, Sydney, on Sunday 22 February at 2 pm. Full details at this link here:
http://www.auscma.com/2015/02/stand-for-the-people-of-the-cross-martin-place-sydney-from-2-00pm/
Stated aims: “To honour our Christian martyrs; to show support for the victims’ families and share in their grief;” and to “call on the Australian government and the international community to fight the threat of ISIS.”
This at least offers a chance to stand up and be counted: to condemn mohammedan ritual murders of non-Muslims, and to offer solidarity to the victims of Jihad. Go along no matter what non-Islamic belief system you subscribe to, go even if you’re an atheist or agnostic, go in order to declare your support for human freedom and freedom of conscience and the right to *live*. Go along to network and to further educate people.
The more Islamosavvy Sydneysiders and neighbours turn up to this, the better. Make it BIG.
And if you’re a Christian, and the leaders of *your* particular denomination, within Sydney and environs, did NOT turn up at the rally…contact them and ask them why and tell them they’d better be at the next one.
Jaladhi says
Islam ad Muslims are here in USA – incidents like this will become common here if the people in charge still keep talking as if such incidences have no relation to Islam. As long as we don’t face up to it since it will offend those”peaceful” Muslims who don’t take part in it but also don’t do anything to control or eliminate it and are also suppliers of “violent extremists”, these events will become common place. Welcome to multicultural world where only one culture aka religion of peace is allowed the rest can go to hell!
dumbledoresarmy says
Yet another Dangerous Convert.
Those who join the Murder Cult become just as deadly as any who have been born and brought up within it.
Peggy says
That’s why they join the cult. No decent person would ever join.
TheBuffster says
The incredible dumbness of this kind of action is mind-boggling.
If a fanatical Christian approaches you and asks if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ Our Savior, and you say “No”, the worst he’s going to do is annoy you with a sermon exhorting you to read the Bible and hand you a pamphlet warning that the end is near and all the signs are pointing to it and you need to prepare your soul. And he’ll pray for you.
The Christian is going on the idea that even though you aren’t a Christian *now*, you might become one *later*. To deprive a person of any possible chance of redemption before his life is over would be a profound sin.
So why don’t these murderous fanatical Muslims think of that? Why didn’t this dead-head just hand out a pamphlet on how great Islam is and then walk away, allowing the value and logic of the religion to work its magic?
Oh, wait…
TheBuffster says
Of course, it helps that nowhere in the Gospel does Jesus tell people that killing unbelievers, even those who actually initiate war against you, will get you a direct flight to heaven when you die.
JamesonRocks says
What a shame they took this POS alive…
gp says
I am certain that The OhhBummer and Eric (Ass with both hands) Holder will come out immediately and call this a hate crime! Right?
Oh, that’s right they cannot even identify the enemy by name. They still get their talking points from their buddies at Hamas/CAIR.
ISIS is the Obama legacy-he squandered untold American blood and treasure and was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Now he wants to go back to that shit hole and do it all over again,
Kevin Walker says
Waiting to hear from imam Obama condemning mohammedan attack on non-mohammedans and saying that; “no one in the US should be targeted for what they look like or how they worship”.
mortimer says
“no one in the US should be targeted for what they look like or how they worship
…unless you are not Muslim, and then a Muslim with a knife will stab you and Obummer will say nothing.
mortimer says
The more Muslims, the more attacks. They are obviously learning to hate from something written in the Islamic texts…
…might those texts be the Sira?…the Koran? …the hadiths?
How would Leftards know what Muslims think without reading the source texts of Islam?
pumbar says
Because they believe what the muslims tell them.
Bezelel says
He’s the poster boy for concealed carry. I don’t understand what makes him think it’s any of his business what religion the rest of us are. I know the koran condones his behavior but there are so many of us who know what the koran says and are repulsed by it.
G179 says
Must be part of the #MuslimKnivesMatter campain
pumbar says
Which came first the face and the expression or the islam?
Jay Boo says
Islamic Self-Loathing disease causes that face expression.
Being a slave of Allah takes a heavy toll on the human spirit and it soon begins to show on the face.
The feelings of inner-worthlessness that comes from striving to please a hostile an mostly indifferent Allah can never long be satiated by mumbling prayer displays and fasting. We can be certain that when a Muslim goes on a rampage it might very well have started with living with the nagging guilt and fear of missing a few prayers or snacking during Ramadan or some horrendously awkward secret perversion. These are often men (and women) who have tipped their scale and got caught by fellow Muslims sometimes in very compromising and embarrassing situations. Their only face-saving escape from the total humiliation by their Muslim community is to go all out wacko on the infidels and disbelievers.
They then project all their (inner self-loathing) onto Islam’s standby scapegoat of non-Muslims.
David says
The Quran is continually taken out of context here and misrepresented to those who are not well versed. The Quran clearly states not to attack first QUOTES BELOW which is what extremists are doing nowadays which is nothing but murder and has nothing to do with instructions from the Quran.
Please read what the Quran actually says about this law of not attacking others first with your own eyes and don’t be fooled by people seeking to twist the truth. Muslims are forbidden to attack others first unless it is a specific attack against Islam.
There are numerous translations of this verse by credible translators which clearly show the Quran States that Muslims are not to attack first. The Quran instructs Muslims not to ‘begin hostilities’. All the battles of Muhammad were as a result of continually being pursued and attacked.
ISIS and lone wolfs betray the Quran.
Quran Sura 2:190
George Sale
“And fight for the religion of GOD against those who fight against you; but transgress not by attacking them first, for GOD loveth not the transgressors.”
Excerpt From: “The Koran (Al-Qur’an).”
“And fight for the cause of God against those who fight against you: but commit not the injustice of attacking them first: God loveth not such injustice”
Excerpt From: Muhammad. “The Koran translated by Rodwell.”
“[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.”
Excerpt From: Dr. Rashad Khalifa Ph.D. “Quran: The Final Testament – Authorised English Version.” Dr. Rashad Khalifa Ph.D.
2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.”
Excerpt From: Pickthall, Marmaduke. “The Meaning Of The Glorious Quran.”
It’s clear people here are being misled. The Quran clearly forbids beginning hostilities. That people ignore that is not the Quran’s fault just like Christians have blatantly ignored ‘Thou shalt not kill’. Obedience to both the Bibke and Wuran would have prevented almost all humanity’s wars.
somehistory says
You keep displaying these same evil wares, but we are not buying any. Do you understand the word “No”? We all know better than to even sample from your table. You know like when you crack a rotten egg, it stinks? You don’t have to taste of it to know it is bad. Same way with what you have. We know what it is and we don’t want it. it’s rotten through and through.
Jay Boo says
Deluded David
It is time to take an Exodus from Medina
Desert spirits spoke in twisted verse, a dance of words to recite, to recite. Medina’s false prophet this rehearsed in a cave near Mecca veiled by night. But the angel Gabriel saw his descent, and said “Pawn of Satan turn, repent, repent.” But, sharia’s verse planted its infected creed, fertilized by a sociopath’s made-up dream. Muhammad’s attempts to partner with Allah were dredged up from the lowest pit of his vanity. Bloodied hands are now washed before prayers that incite as hate speech is masked as devotion to recite, to recite. Along Medina’s “fastest growing” path straight to hell, Muslims turn from Heaven to embrace Islam’s unholy Allah weapon. Whenever this false humility makes its hajj to Satan’s curse, Islam’s dead Serpent crawls from his stockpile of vile, veiled verse.
Champ says
“It’s clear people here are being misled.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yeah, by you. But we’re not falling for it.
Angemon says
David posted:
“The Quran is continually taken out of context here and misrepresented to those who are not well versed. The Quran clearly states not to attack first QUOTES BELOW which is what extremists are doing nowadays which is nothing but murder and has nothing to do with instructions from the Quran.”
We’ve been through this before, David, and it didn’t end well for you last time. No one here is “misrepresenting” the quran, we’re accurately representing what islamic sources say about it.
“All the battles of Muhammad were as a result of continually being pursued and attacked.”
What a blatant lie. Muhammad was driven out of Mecca for antagonizing the Meccans, insulting their ancestors and gods. After running to Medina, he could have started afresh, but he decided to raid the Meccan trade caravans. One of the raids took place in the holy months – a time of the year when arab tribes agreed not to attack one another – and cost the life of a Meccan. Muhammad conveniently had a “revelation” telling him that yes, what the muslims did was wrong, but the fault of it lied with the Meccans, who drove them out of Mecca, and that persecution was worse than slaughter (2:190-191).
That’s the kind of “defensive” warfare muhammad practiced, and that’s the reason muslims claim alleged grievances to justify their actions.
“It’s clear people here are being misled. The Quran clearly forbids beginning hostilities.”
And what constitutes an “hostility”? Would refusal to acknowledge islam be considered an aggressive action? Because islamic orthodoxy is clear about starting a war. Only the caliph can call for offensive jihad (apparently, muslims weren’t told that the quran only allows fighting in self-defense- go figure…), and he must start by giving his target 3 choices: convert, pay the jizya or fight. The refusal to converting to islam and paying the jizya are, apparently, “aggression” or “hostility”.
David, do you consider 9/11 to be an offensive or defensive act of warfare?
Islam_Macht_Frei says
I’m sure CAIR is busy demanding this be investigated as a “hate crime.” Right Ibe???
cjk says
That face says it all. It just screams that ‘I come from a long line of people who interbreed’.
Kangi_nunpa says
This is a rather must-read article by Graeme Wood… http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
“Without acknowledgment of these factors, no explanation of the rise of the Islamic State could be complete. But focusing on them to the exclusion of ideology reflects another kind of Western bias: that if religious ideology doesn’t matter much in Washington or Berlin, surely it must be equally irrelevant in Raqqa or Mosul. When a masked executioner says Allahu akbar while beheading an apostate, sometimes he’s doing so for religious reasons.
Many mainstream Muslim organizations have gone so far as to say the Islamic State is, in fact, un-Islamic. It is, of course, reassuring to know that the vast majority of Muslims have zero interest in replacing Hollywood movies with public executions as evening entertainment. But Muslims who call the Islamic State un-Islamic are typically, as the Princeton scholar Bernard Haykel, the leading expert on the group’s theology, told me, “embarrassed and politically correct, with a cotton-candy view of their own religion” that neglects “what their religion has historically and legally required.” Many denials of the Islamic State’s religious nature, he said, are rooted in an “interfaith-Christian-nonsense tradition.”
According to Haykel, the ranks of the Islamic State are deeply infused with religious vigor. Koranic quotations are ubiquitous. “Even the foot soldiers spout this stuff constantly,” Haykel said. “They mug for their cameras and repeat their basic doctrines in formulaic fashion, and they do it all the time.” He regards the claim that the Islamic State has distorted the texts of Islam as preposterous, sustainable only through willful ignorance. “People want to absolve Islam,” he said. “It’s this ‘Islam is a religion of peace’ mantra. As if there is such a thing as ‘Islam’! It’s what Muslims do, and how they interpret their texts.” Those texts are shared by all Sunni Muslims, not just the Islamic State. “And these guys have just as much legitimacy as anyone else.””
Porkistan says
Did you read the whole article?
I’ll admit that it is very insightful and well written, but I have to disagree with the author about one main point. He talks about muslims who “are not violent” but essentially agree with 99% of what IS practices. These “non-violent” muslims are being disingenuous. Islam did not develop over thousands of years like Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, or Christianity. It spewed out the ass of one madman over a 20 year period. There is no room for interpretation. There is no reforming islam while still being islam.
Have you ever noticed that there are dozens of Jewish sects, and THOUSANDS of Hindu, Buddhist, and Christian sects (each), while there are only three sects of islam? Not only that but the Sunnis brutalize the Shias, and they both brutalize the Ahmadis. 1500 millions people and only 3 sects? It’s because there is no room for interpretation in islam, and Mohammed himself said that if anybody deviates from the system HE created they should be killed.
I just didn’t like the way the author implied that muslims CAN interpret islam any way they want and eventually join the 21st century like the rest of us. They can try, but they will eventually be killed for apostasy, and islam always returns to what it really is.
mach37 says
You apparently haven’t heard of the hadiths (prophetic traditions), and how almost every Imam interprets them AND the Koran to their own tastes.
M S case says
AN OPEN LETTER TO THE MUSLIMS If ALL muslims do not agree with what isis and other terrorist groups are doing then why do you not stand up and do something about it…All the muslim countries should band together, with Egypt and Jordan and wipe out these murder hungry vermin. If you don’t do it then you are as guilty as they are…..And in the west if you so called moderate good muslims don’t get in the streets and stand up in your mosques and demand that this madness stop and help route out the ones who are causing trouble then you are no better that them. What the terrorist are doing has set islam back 500 years or more…You are a hated group and always will be till you clean up your mess…………..but I don’t look for that to happen……you have been taught from a book of hate,from infancy that everyone but you don’t deserve to live if we don’t believe like you do. Look what you have done for the last 1400 years or so. Christians have not tried to wipe you out since the great crusades and they did very little even then and was soon stopped.
Not since the crusades have Christians tried to eradicate the muslims. Christians have mostly left you to your own destruction and you are destroying yourself even this very day. Killing your own people just because they want to do it their way and be left alone but no you require sharia law which is the most vile of laws.
I would love for all muslims to become Christians then you would truly join the religion of peace.. Our teachings have nothing to do with murder, and we have no inclination to force you to accept Christianity as the muslims are trying to force everyone, Christian or not, to join islam or in some cases just killing without even given a chance to convert to islam.
I fear I am wasting my time writing this for. islam is set in stone.
Angemon says
M S case posted:
“Not since the crusades have Christians tried to eradicate the muslims.”
Huh, the goal of the crusades wasn’t to eradicate the muslims.
Thomas says
I like the Christian Theme, but the idea that the Christians tried to eradicate the Muslims in the crusades is a bit much. I think if you check your history, the other way around would be more true. Between 625 and 1922 the Muslims eradicated over 270,000,000 people in order to spread their faith. Thousands of black youth died 9 out of 10 died when attempts were made to make them Eunichs. The slave trade, from which many African Americans can find their heritage were captured by the Muslims and sold world wide. Millions of christian women were made into sex slaves, and hundreds of North African towns and villages were completely destroyed, and never occupied again. All the Christians did was to try to put a stop to the constant wars the Muslims engaged. Ferdinand and Isabella finally defeated them in Spain. The Muslims lost a great war in the Battle of Lepanto. Muslims Genocided over 2 million Armenian, Greeks and others in the year 1915. From 1922 the Muslim world was silent when in 1967 they went to war with Israel, they have not stopped their continued march of world Genocide.
argumentum says
How is THIS not a “hate crime”?
Porkistan says
I hate to defend this guy but he looks a few fries short of a happy meal.
About 3% of the population has some mental health problems, and it’s probably much higher when you are allowed to marry your cousins like many muslims practice. The real difference here is that if you are hearing voices and go to a Church, Synagog, Buddhist Shrine, or Hindu Temple they will tell you to NOT kill, NOT rape, NOT hate, and to seek mental health services.
The same can not be said of any local mosque.
Islam itself is like a communicable mental disease, a contagious cancer of the mind and spirit.
wallace says
The eyes of a dead Greenland shark
particolor says
Mr Deadly Nightshade !!
Proud English Infidel says
Amazing how these “brave” muzzies run away as soon as they have attacked someone…
Gandydancer says
The 9/11 terrorists didn’t run away, nor do suicide bombers.
Most of the comments seem to assume that that this guy was some sort of Sunni or Shia, but this took place in Detroit, which is where Elijah Muhammad took over the Nation of Islam before moving to Chicago. I’d assume they have a strong presence there now. If you’re not familiar with the Zebra murders, check it out.
mach37 says
You think suicide is not “running away” from something? It amounts to running away from whatever future Life holds for them.
Truth says
Too bad he didn’t ask a conceiled gun holder. He wouldn’t be posing for a photo then.
ConnectingDots says
President Obama,
If you had a son, would he look like Terrence Lavaron Thomas?
If not, why not?
Discuss.
John says
When will Marie Harf of the State Department get on this guy’s case and find him a job. Maybe she should take him home with her until he gets on his feet. Isn’t it all about poverty and opportunity. However, when he gets a job at a fast food place there will have to be some training. The first class should be on how to substitute “Allahu Akbar” with “would you like fries with that?’ From the looks of this guy he will need a remedial class to make him a good employee.
steven says
The deseace this guy has, is incurable, a rotten apple can only contaminate and rote other apples in the bowl, correct? So wake up and see what are they really up to. than take action, pest the government, MP, Blogs, friends, there is a lot you can do.the majority will be heard. But watch out there is nearly 50% muslims in this world and they stick together, So there is not much time. What about our kids future????
M S case says
@Angemon and Thomas
Please note I used the word “tried” to eradicate the muslims…………In reality it was islam that they wanted to stop and to put an end to what they were doing in the Holy City. the knights were tasked to eradicate islam as a religion if they could. You don’t fight a battle just part way ( well only if you are the United States) so their job was to finish them off. They “tried” knowing that if they didn’t islam would just continue and muslims would come back. They failed miserably though islam is thriving today more than .ever. The knights did not finish the job.just as we didn’t .Not since WW2 have we finished a war..
They have attacked the U.S. without provocation many times,..Going back as the 1960’s and forward. The muslims have been the ones attacking us. And from what I understand of the Koran we should attack first before they do. but of course they just use the Koran to suit themselves. What a hate book the Koran is. Our government should outlaw it and islam as well…Only after the fall of the twin towers on 9/11 did we decide to fight back.in force. Oh we maybe have spanked them a little a few times before that but the main thrust came after 9/11 Some say that was our downfall????? May I state that they are not just attacking Christians…….but all who do not believe in islam….. Charles Martel, THE HAMMER, stopped them in Europe back when they were on the march to take the world. They need another Martel over there today.
Angemon says
M S case posted:
“@Angemon and Thomas
Please note I used the word “tried” to eradicate the muslims…………In reality it was islam that they wanted to stop and to put an end to what they were doing in the Holy City. the knights were tasked to eradicate islam as a religion if they could.”
No, they weren’t. The goal of the Crusades was to allow Christians to access the Holy Land, not to eradicate muslims or islam. They set up the Crusader States but made no serious attempt to move further into islamic lands.
Thomas says
That is correct, only access was sought. The muslims at that time had penetrated Europe, India, Asia, and were not going to stop. Since Jerusalem was the origin of the Christian Faith, the goal was to re-aquire the Eastern Mediterranian coastline, not to continue towards Iraq, Persia etc.
Angemon says
You know what? There might be a case here for this guy NOT knowing what islam teaches – he is supposed to ask non-believers to convert or pay the jizya before attacking them 😉
Kevin says
Not one word in the New Testament that sais to go out & kill anyone. Jesus healed the sick, he raised the dead, he cast out demons & helped the blind to see, etc etc. Rose from the dead on the third day & promised eternal life. That’s it. It’s not rocket science & it ain’t religion baby. In fact Jesus hated the religious people of his time. Did Mohamed heal the sick? Did he raise the dead? Did he preach peace? Did he promise eternal life? Jesus would “like” Christians to pray but it’s not mandated because IT’S NOT RELIGIOUS. Mandated prayer is religion & quite frankly is hated by secular people. I defy anyone…ANYONE to go to Sunday School Across the country & try to find one incident of the Bible School Teacher telling the youth that when you grow up to go kill Muslims. It’s easy to go to a Mosque & find teaching going on to the youth that when you grow up to go Kill Jews, Christians & any non-believer. THAT’S THE ACID TEST OF TRUTH. Go’s back to the Hitler Youth. Teach a child to hate & in 15-20 years you’ve got a nice strong brainwashed youth ready to go chop somebody’s head off.
M S case says
Pretty good Kevin but mohammed must have promised heaven for his war fighters. If they fight and die in jihad they will go to paradise and I am sssuming paradise is heaven…..and get those 72 virgins……..as Jesus said” to the thief on the cross ” today you will be with me in paradise
@Kevin I think mohammed did tell his jihad fighters that they would go to heaven if they were killed in the name of alla, whoever that is, He promised them paradise with flowing streams and 72 viregins……..
but they have to be killed in war though…What a way to go.
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