None of the Muslim leaders and spokesmen quoted in this article address this story from Ibn Ishaq’s eighth-century account of Muhammad’s conquest of Khaybar, even to explain why the conduct of the man whom the Qur’an holds up as the supreme example to be emulated by Muslims (33:21) is not to be emulated in this case: “Kinana b. al-Rabi`, who had the custody of the treasure of B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (T. was brought) to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle said to Kinana, ‘Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?’ he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-Awwam, ‘Torture him until you extract what he has,’ so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head, in revenge for his brother Mahmud.” (Ibn Ishaq 515).
There is also this hadith, in which Muhammad says: “Certainly I decided to order the Mu’adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.” (Bukhari 1.11.626)
Yes, there is also a contradictory, as is so often the case, since most or all of the hadith literature was fabricated to support the positions of various factions vying for power in the eighth and ninth centuries: “Narrated ‘Ikrima: Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, ‘If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, “Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).” I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.”’” (Bukhari 9.84.57)
“Islamic Teachings Explicitly Forbid Death by Burning, But ISIS Did It Anyway,” by Jenna McLaughlin, Mother Jones, February 5, 2015:
On Tuesday, ISIS released the latest in a series of gruesome filmed murders of its foreign captives. This time, it was the execution of 1st Lt. Moaz al-Kasasbeh, a celebrated Jordanian pilot whom the group had been attempting to exchange for Sajida al-Rishawi, a female failed suicide bomber from Iraq who was being held in a Jordanian prison. Kasasbeh was the first pilot in the 60-member US-led coalition fighting ISIS to be caught, and relatives in Amman and officials throughout Jordan are outraged at his death. In retaliation, Jordan executed the Iraqi woman and one other Iraqi jihadist by hanging early Wednesday morning.
“Burning someone alive is absolutely barbaric, and it is expressly forbidden in Islam,” said one Middle East expert.In the execution of Kasasbeh, ISIS departed from its usual approach of beheading a captive: It burned Kasasbeh alive in a metal cage and filmed it. Aside from the unremitting cruelty of this act, for nearly all Muslims, it is also close to sacrilege.
“Burning someone alive is absolutely barbaric, and it is expressly forbidden in Islam,” Emma El-Badawy, a Middle East expert from the University of Exeter, told Sky News, a UK-based news station. The Council on American- Islamic Relations (CAIR) held a press conference in response to the act, where Nihad Awad, the national director, called it “unspeakable and anti-Islamic.” Hussam Ayloush, the director of CAIR in Los Angeles, noted, as many Islamic clerics have, that ISIS should not even be compared to Islam, as it does not fit the category of an Islamic group, but rather a “murderous terrorist cult.”
Activists in Syria from Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently, a group reporting from the ground in the ISIS stronghold of Raqqa, were shocked and initially incredulous. Abu Ibrahim al-Raqqawi, the pseudonym of an activist following ISIS’s occupation in the radical group’s stronghold in Raqqa, Syria, told the Daily Beast: “I know that in Islam, there is no excuse to burn someone to death, so I thought they were lying,” referring to a friend recounting tales of ISIS members gloating about the pilot’s death.
Even cremation is not acceptable in the Islamic faith. “To honor the dead is to bury them,” reads a Muslim hadith, or prophetic teaching attributed to the Prophet Muhammed. Sheikh Muhammed Saalih al-Munajjid, a respected Muslim scholar in the Salafi school of thought, posted on a well-known Islamic information website that he manages: “It is not prescribed in Islam to burn or cremate the dead, rather this is an act of disrespect and dishonour. Islam forbids us to step, walk or sit on the grave of the deceased, so how could we burn him?”
ISIS members, anticipating criticism, were quick to launch a PR counteroffensive online. ISIS published a post titled “Moaz Was Burnt Alive, Below Is the Islamic Justification for Such an Act.” It claims that “scholars” (who are never directly quoted or named) say it is acceptable to burn victims in the modern day, and the post gives instructions to jihadists on how to argue with clerics who might complain that burning is un-Islamic. Commenters on the post began to cite other lines from the Koran could justify the decision to burn the pilot. Some commenters claimed it was retaliation for ISIS fighters who died in air strikes, who may have been burned….
Champ says
It would have been more ‘islamic’ to murder him in cold blood by sawing off his head with a dull knife. Roger that.
Salah says
Thanks for the link, Justin. A powerful March of the Templars indeed.
Unfortunately, the West has lost the great Judeo-Christian values that made a great civilization out of Europe.
We have lost our sense of honour, manhood, virility and self-sacrifice. We are so self-absorbed, selfish and afraid to fight even against a coward and weak enemy like Islam.
Unless we return to these great values, we will be commiting SUICIDE.
But here’s the good news: Even if the West commits suicide, some other great civilization based on the great Judeo-Christian values WILL ARISE somewhere else, most probably in the Middle East.
Where Christ is King, Civilization is Great.
“Therefore I say to you, that the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and shall be given to a nation yielding the fruits thereof.”
(Matthew 21:43)
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html
Anna says
Well said ! Syrian Christians can’t get vias’s to the West. The West hardly takes Christians, onlyMuslims, from everywhere ! All muslim ” refugees” especially young single men from Somalia ! It is a invasion !
Christians are the most persecuted group on the planet ! Have been for a long time. We will be next if nothing is done to oust present western leaders and educate the indoctrinated dumbed – down masses.
Charli Main says
@ Anna
as I have posted on a number of occasions
Muslim immigration===== suicide by Islam.
dlbrand says
Indeed. We do this garbage because our experiment it Iraq was such a bang up success.
Shane says
Wow, ISIS finally did something that Muhammad would not have approved of. That’s a first!
Robert Spencer and Michael Coren on the Islamic jihad against Christianity:
duh_swami says
People act like this is the first time Mahoundins burned someone to death…It’s not…
mariam rove says
Beheading would be better. m
wildjew says
Just heard Sean Hannity’s “scholar” on Islam tell the listening audience (paraphrasing), “we aren’t talking about (or condemning) Muslims who aren’t perverting the peaceful teachings of Islam.”
dlbrand says
wildjew says: “Just heard Sean Hannity’s ‘scholar’ on Islam tell the listening audience (paraphrasing), ‘we aren’t talking about (or condemning) Muslims who aren’t perverting the peaceful teachings of Islam.'”
Indeed, Sean Hannity’s ice cream truck on the roll–special of the day, B.S. Sundays, ‘nana-splits too, should you lean towards one; nonetheless, be your choice the former or the latter there; whip cream, crushed nuts, and even a cherry to plop on top, at your wish for such.
Don McKellar says
“…contradictory, as is so often the case, since most or all of the hadith literature was fabricated…”
And the same for the Koran. All fabricated and much of it contradictory to itself.
dlbrand says
“And the same for the Koran. All fabricated and much of it contradictory to itself.”
Indeed.
Indigo Red says
Yes, it is un-Islamic to burn someone to death. However, “someone” doesn’t mean just anyone; it means another Muslim because only Muslims are considered someone, ie people, all others are lesser creatures. The burned pilot was Muslim in our eyes, but his Muslimness was negated in Islam by other Qur’anic edicts such as never take infidels as friends. When a Muslim works with infidels to fight other Muslims, they are no longer Muslims and no better than infidels. They are, in fact, worse – they are apostates and heretics for whom burning is acceptable. Islam is a very accommodating and convenient religion. It can justify anything from raping a newborn child to the immolation of living human beings.
bill says
He dropped bombs which could have burned people and dumped ruble on them..Very Islamic if you ask me.
You know SHA law don’t you know
Wellington says
No other religion on earth has to engage in so many explanations and parsings (an ad nauseam amount it seems) respecting why that religion doesn’t condone this, that or the other thing which nonetheless so many of that religion’s believers support or do anyway. This in and of itself serves as a condemnation of Islam and just how screwed up this monster of a religion is.
Bill says
Islam is not a religion. It has nothing in common with any known religion. Read the Bible when I was young and do not remember the part about killing Jews, or that they were pigs and so on…
It is an Ideology, and an evil one. Wake up America but it is too late. We have have left God. We are sooo screwed!
Wellington says
Asserting Islam is not a religion is a non-starter—-or should be. Islam is a religion all right, as Robert Spencer himself has said, but I submit to everyone, to anyone, that it is an evil religion. I mean where is it written that a religion cannot be bad? Moreover, for First Amendment purposes here in America there is no way in hell, I mean no way whatsoever, that Islam would ever be considered not a religion.
Fighting Islamic supremacist designs must be done as informedly and wisely as possible. Stating that Islam is not a religion is a bad start to solving a super problem.
Bill says
My answer is “There in lies the problem” If you call it an religion you give it equal moral footing. Call it what it is. Evil of course. Yes, I do not remember being told that a religion can not be bad/evil. Study some history and the answer to this problem will be shown. Force not words will solve this.
Wellington says
No, Bill, you don’t give Islam equal footing by calling it a religion and it is absurd to assert that. Call Islam what it is, i.e., a religion with numerous troubling doctirnes that are inimical to freedom and equality under the law. Give it protection to the same extent other heinous ideologies have been given protecton, e.g., Marxism and Nazism, but prosecute to the maximum any Muslim breaking American law in the name of their faith. Also, scorn and mock this religion with regularity. Make Muslims feel like losers and confused human beings. I assure you though that your approach by denying it is a religion is simply not a good idea. Perhaps you should study a little law before commenitng next time.
AJ Liberphile says
Islam has a religious component, and that religion is comparable to Satanism and Voodoo.
Isadora says
Islam is a Totalitarian Political System. It is NOT a religion. Sorry if this offends you but it’s the truth.
Champ says
Bill wrote:
Islam is not a religion.
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I submit that islam is a religion system, and “Got Questions” adds much more from a Christian perspective …
Question: “What is Islam, and what do Muslims believe?”
Answer: http://www.gotquestions.org/Islam.html
Charli Main says
Islam is a religion. The religion of the Anti Christ and the tool of Satan.
Islam is the polar opposite of Christianity.
Mirren10 says
Bil says:
”Islam is not a religion. It has nothing in common with any known religion.”
Of course it is a religion. That doesn’t however, as Wellington ably points out, mean it is a *good* religion. And it has much in common with the worship of Moloch, Satanism, the bloody religion of the Aztecs, and voodoo.
”It is an Ideology, and an evil one.” No reason it cannot be both.
re·li·gion
[ri-lij-uhn]
NOUN
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
gp says
Seek out and kill all members and supporters of the Islamic State, and end their blood lines. Deport their family members. Throw all that scum off of the welfare rolls and drop them into the dry harsh desert. Give them no quarter.
Jordan will act alone if need be, they stand for something and their King’s words have meaning. They will build their arsenal of war and they will take the gloves off against the ISIS demons. Jordan’s leader is a true warrior king and he will do what Obama will not. He will track these wicked murderous bastard scum bags down and he will kill them. Kill them by the bushel, kill them by the barrel full, and kill them by the boat load. He will wade through them with a righteous anger and send those evil bastards to their master, Satan, into the depths of hell where they belong. The ISIS plague is only wickedness, murderous evil, destruction, death, and rape. Their ideology is hatred their murderous rise must be ended-civilized nations must join in their destruction and do everything possible to hasten their end.
Angemon says
All islamic apologists look like this to me:
Peter says
What ever happened to due diligence, research and investigative journalism? Just because someone says something, doesn’t mean it’s true, yet the media take everything Islamists, Islamophiles, and the Useful Idiots claim about Islam at face value. Facts, evidence, reason, logic, empiricism, and a healthy dose of skepticism and criticism should be package into a dumb journalist vaccine and disseminated very widely.
dlbrand says
“Burning someone alive is absolutely barbaric, and it is expressly forbidden in Islam,” Emma El-Badawy, a Middle East expert from the University of Exeter,…”
“. ,,,The Council on American- Islamic Relations (CAIR) held a press conference in response to the act, where Nihad Awad, the national director, called it “unspeakable and anti-Islamic.”
Yes indeed, just as is praying towards mecca five times a day, as is the practice of a women donning a hijab, as is the act of a believer performing hajj–Every one of those, “expressly forbidden in Islam,” “unspeakable and anti-Islamic.”
citycat says
They don’t cremate their dead fellow muslims, the soul may be trapped in the body.
This is the burning of the living enemy
Aton says
Actually, this burning is Islamic, because the Koran says that unbelievers should have ‘garments of fire’ – and that is exactly why this pilot was given. Please see my letter to the UK foreign minister.
Aton
.
Mr Philip Hammond
Foreign Minister
Westminster
Re: Jordanian pilot – a Koranic death
Dear Mr Hammond,
The media are in overload again, trying to distance the burning of the Jordanian pilot from mainstream Islam. The Daily Mail wheeled out Piers Morgan, that well-known Islamic scholar, to say that burning people had nothing to do with Islam.
Think again, Mr Hammond, think again. The Koran says:
There were two adversaries who were disputing the nature of god.
Garments of fire have been prepared for the kuffer unbelievers. Boiling water will
be poured upon their heads to melt their skins and that which is in their bellies;
and they shall be lashed with rods of iron. If they try to escape, they shall be dragged
back and told, ‘taste the torment and the Fires’. Koran 22:19-22
Why do you think they doused the pilot’s clothes with petrol? Garments of fire, Mr Hammond, garments of fire. The Jordanian pilot was tasting the ‘torment of the fire’, just as the Muslim god commanded in the Koran. And who will be next, Mr Hammond?
This is real Islam, the true unbridled Islam that exists when it can throw off the shackles of Western influence, Western law enforcement, and the Western military. This is the true Islam that existed during the ‘Golden Age of Islam’,** when the subjugated dhimmi Christian and Jewish populations of the East had precious few rights and tugged the fore-lock to their muslim overlords.
So what do you think will happen, Mr Hammond, when Islam gets a political hold in Europe? Do you think it will be all free and fair, the politics of gentlemanly cricket? Or do you think it will be like the administration of Lutfur Rahman, the Muslim mayor of Tower Hamlets who is accused of vote rigging, intimidation and grossly favouring the Muslims of his borough.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2710261/Tower-Hamlets-Muslim-mayor-Lutfur-Rahman-accused-promising-houses-votes.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2936319/Tower-Hamlets-mayor-accused-electoral-fraud-intimidation-bribery-year-s-poll-voted-second-term.html
There will come a time when this is no longer a polite political game that can be dismissed with sweet platitudes. Who is protecting you and us, Mr Hammond? Ah yes, the true and loyal British police force, and the true and loyal British army. And for how long will they be here?
But there will come a time when you are deposed and we are subjugated. Will you also be forced to ‘taste the fires’, Mr Hammond? Will you be as calm and as brave as the Jordanian pilot?
Sincerely,
Aton
Mirren10 says
Excellent letter, Aton. Do tell us if you receive a reply. (I won’t hold my breath).
Paul Weston says
And also Koran 4:56 “Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses – We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment (forever).Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted, Mighty and Wise.
Kae says
too bad about the girls burnt in a school when they tried to escape the fire unveiled
jewdog says
The more I read, the more respect I have for the deep understanding of Islam that the leaders of the Islamic State have. I would rank Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi up there with Robert Spencer and Anjem Choudhury in his knowledge. Groups like CAIR are amateurs compared to the IS ulema. The great thing about IS is their total disregard for infidel norms when it comes to adhering to Sharia. What they did to the Jordanian is a teachable moment for those interested in learning about real Islam.
Walter Sieruk says
There are pictures of Muslims in Syria who seem very happy and glad at knowing about the terribly cruel and heinous murder of man by the brutal act of burning. This brings to mind that the Bible teaches “Whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished.” Proverbs 17:5. [N.I.V.]
BC says
I expect most people have forgotten about this but I have not. In January 2007 a 5 year old boy in Bagdad was doused with petrol and set on fire by unknown masked men. The attackers were of course Muslims most likely of the other manin branch of the faith! Ring any bells?