99.9% of Muslims, Obama says, reject the terrorists’ understanding of Islam. That still leaves 1.3 million jihadis or jihad sympathizers, but never mind that for now — where is this 99.9%? Where are the Muslim organizations that are dedicated to working against the jihadists? Where are the Muslim marches and protests against al-Qaeda, the Islamic State, and all the hijackers of Islam? We have seen many protests lately by Muslims against the latest Muhammad cartoons in Charlie Hebdo. Where are the Muslim protests against the killing of the cartoonists and in support of the freedom of speech? Why is this 99.9% so silent and passive in the face of this “hijacking” of their religion?
“Obama says terrorists not motivated by true Islam,” by Dave Boyer, The Washington Times, February 1, 2015:
Criticized for avoiding the phrase “Islamic extremism,” President Obama said he doesn’t want to alienate the majority of peace-loving Muslims as the U.S. fights to defeat terrorist networks around the world.
“I think that for us to be successful in fighting this scourge, it’s very important for us to align ourselves with the 99.9 percent of Muslims who are looking for the same thing we’re looking for: order, peace, prosperity,” Mr. Obama said on CNN. “And so I don’t quibble with labels.”
The president also said he doesn’t want to “overinflate” the importance of terrorist groups by sending U.S. troops to occupy countries in the Middle East or by “playing whack-a-mole” against terrorist leaders because it drains America’s financial strength….
“I think we all recognize that this is a particular problem that has roots in Muslim communities, and that the Middle East and South Asia are sort of ground zero for us needing to win back hearts and minds, particularly when it comes to young people,” Mr. Obama said. “But I think we do ourselves a disservice in this fight if we are not taking into account the fact that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject this ideology. I reject a notion that somehow that creates a religious war, because the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject that interpretation of Islam.”…
PHV says
Someone should show Obama some poll results. Any poll results, conducted by any reputable polling agency in the last ten years. Just as an example, the 2013 Pew report on “The world’s Muslims: Religion, politics and society ( http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/ ) surveyed some 38’000 Muslims in over thirty countries. What it shows is very, very different from what the President of the United States (the President of the United States!!!) so fervently claims. Talk about sticking one’s head in the sand…
umbra says
obama’s 24 carat (99.9% purity grade) islam … has far too much impurity, in reality, to be of any use in civilised societies.
rev g says
Reject that interpretation? There really is nothing to interpret. It is cut and dry.
weavo2 says
“99.9% of Muslims, Obama says, reject the terrorists’ understanding of Islam.”
What a pompous windbag inflated with his own sense of importance.
AJ Liberphile says
Only 1.6 M jihadists huh?
According to the Times,
80% of London Muslims (1.03 mil) Support the Islamic State
https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/11/02/80-of-london-muslims-support-isis/
Where does Obola make up his statistics from? Disneyland?
Ed says
Not Disneyland. He pulls those statistics from Taqiyya Today.
jihad3tracker@gmail.com says
I can see from the expression on his green little face that even my pet frog knows B.H.O. is saying this, and stuffing similar bullcrappish nonsense into John Kerry’s mouth, because Dems are petrified of losing in 2016, and if the Muslim vote is 100% on their side, winning odds will be much better.
Peggy says
Not if the non Muslim vote is 100% against them. If only.
Peggy says
What sort of odds would he have if non Muslim vote is 100% against them?
We can only dream that Americans will wake up.
D.C. Watson says
“I think that for us to be successful in fighting this scourge, it’s very important for us to align ourselves with the 99.9 percent of Muslims who are looking for the same thing we’re looking for: order, peace, prosperity,”
This guy doesn’t even comprehend that when he labels what we call Islamic terrorists as “scourge”, he is insulting the hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world who support or agree with them.
Maybe it would be best if he just stopped running off at the mouth for once and let the grown-ups handle this. If he actually believes that our government, Western governments abroad, and the idiot media have been able to keep Islamic terrorism and Shari’ah law a secret from everyone by making up different terms to use when discussing them, then he is nothing more than a delusional little menace.
Asian Crusader says
Unfortunately, His Majesty’s words were erroneously edited by an intern who had not received VJ memo on “Acceptable Speech.” The unrevised original wording by VJ herself was as follows.
“I think that for us to be successful in fighting
this scourgethe Republicans, it’s very important for us to align ourselves with the 99.9 percent of Muslims who are looking for the same thing we’re looking for:order, peace, prosperitypower, power and power …”Jay Boo says
Muslims define “order, peace, prosperity” differently than we do.
Order — (Sharia Law)
Peace — (Submission to Islam)
Prosperity — (Collecting the Jizya tax)
Paul says
Where was our esteemed President when the Iranians were protesting in the streets against the mullah dictators and Sharia enforcers. Siding with the mullahs! Where was he when he Egyptian people were protesting the Muslim brotherhood. So even if what he says is true, that 90 percent of Muslims want peace and prosperity and justice and freedom, why has he consistently sided with the 10 percent that want Shariah?
Angemon says
Try looking at this paragraph through the lens of islamic doublespeak -when muslim leaders say that they want peace, they mean that islam foresees peace when everyone converts to islam.
I’d like to know if these 99.9% agree with what the terrorists said – “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam”
Because there’s no point in calling a spade a spade, right?
Of course. Why waste resources fighting “JV terrorists” when he could be giving those same resources to terrorism-enabler states like Pakistan?
But apparently, not on muslim communities in the US, France, or any other Western, non-muslim nation – at least, going by what our elected leaders say.
Hmmm, muslims are committing acts of terrorism because their religion calls for it. Can anyone explain to sheik Hussein what’s wrong with the “win hearts and minds” approach? How’s that working out in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Do they? I certainly don’t see any organized movement stating it…
That’s all nice and dandy, but what are you planning to do about those who accept such a notion and declared a religious war on you?
jihad3tracker says
Thanks once again, Angemon — this time for a mini-collection of Barry Hussein’s “perhaps Americans will believe this baloney”.
Western Canadian says
No, sadly when the next mass slaughter succeeds, the bootlick media will continue to pander to their blood-oil masters, and the criminals (like obama ) who sell the rest of us into dhimmi-slavery.
profitsbeard says
Another day, anothet Big Lie.
Obama, prevarication is his real middle name.
PAthena says
The name of the President of the United States is Barack Pinnochio Hussein Obama. His nose grows longer with every lie he tells.
Thaaff says
I continue to be amazed at how nobody seems to even suspect what I am absolutely convinced of, that, like his brother Malik Obama, our so-called “President” is a ranking member of the Muslim Brotherhood! I just don’t get how people are so blind to the obvious!
More Ham Ed says
The unholy ‘quran is 100% radical, and instead of teaching that this world is temporary and we don’t belong here, it teaches to forcefully conquer the world geographically. The unholy ‘quran is radical and 99.9% of Muslims read it. I wonder if believing in the death penalty for leaving Islam is considered radical. Even the nothing-wrong-with-Islam Pew Forum states the following about Sharia.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
Penalty for Converting to Another Faith – The percentage that believe this is 67.60% based on ten Muslim majority countries in the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa. Based on the Muslim population of those countries, that results in 353 million people (at a minimum) who firmly believe in the death penalty for leaving Islam.
Boston Tea Party says
Yes, and in other important news, the vast majority of communists in the world disapproved of the mass murder of millions and the totalitarian police states that Stalin and Mao created. Therefore, it’s proven beyond any doubt that communism isn’t an ideology to be opposed.
Tom says
http://www.jihadiots.com/Complacency-is-Complicity.html
rubiconrest says
If only .01% are jihadist’s it does not matter if they are offended. We’re not afraid of offending armed robbers. I imagine a majority of Muslims identify jihad as a basic tenant of the faith. This is the elephant the president is afraid to offend. Why not offend them to see just how many support the jihad? Wouldn’t it be a good idea to learn how big the enemy is? Once we know this we can develop a strategy to defeat them.
Wellington says
Barack Obama is a very determined man. He’s determined to never really learn anything. About Islam. About health care. About the economy. About Israel. About Iran. About race relations. About history. About peace through strength. About America. About the Constitution. About freedom. About…. About…. About….
umbra says
He thinks he knows all and sees all, although available evidence points overwhelmingly in the opposite direction.
mortimer says
Voting patterns and opinion surveys prove Obama is seriously underestimating the number of jihadists.
Obama wants us to believe a ‘tiny minority’ of Muslims are terrorists, but what are the objective measurements of his opinion? Is there any basis? You decide!
Many opinion surveys have revealed attitudes of most Muslims are highly conservative and in favour of jihad. It appears about 15% of Muslims support violent jihad. We can deduce the real number of terrorists by careful mathematical analysis.
There are between 1.2 and 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Half are women. While a substantial percentage of Islamic women support jihad, less than one in fifty Islamic terrorist acts is actually perpetrated by a female. That leaves us with a maximum pool of jihadists that is just over 50% of the total population.
The overwhelming preponderance of terrorist acts are conducted by young Muslim men 15 to 30 years old. This age bracket covers about half of the male population of the Islamic world, leaving us with a potential jihad pool of 25% of all Muslims – approximately 300 million people.
The most logical way to determine the percentage of Muslims who are Salafite fundamentalists (… a precondition to jihad) is to consider the most recent elections in Islamic countries. For example, the fundamentalist Islamic group Hamas received 65% of the popular vote in “Palestine.” The somewhat secular Fatah, at least by comparison to Hamas, won only 30% of the votes.
If the 60% response levels derived from polling data is an accurate reflection of the current state of Islam, then sex and age criteria further reduce Islamic terrorist candidates down to a maximum of one in every seven Muslims – 25% of 60%. That means that no more than 15% of the total Islamic population of 1.2 to 1.5 billion people has the potential to be a terrorist should the opportunity arise. That equates to a minimum of 180 million potential jihadists and a maximum of 225 million.
But when it comes to actual jihadists, to those who have or will commit an act of terrorism in Allah’s name, my research suggests that they represent no more than one in one hundred of the 180 million young fundamentalist Muslim men prepared mentally, morally, and spiritually to be terrorists. That means that there are 1.8 million actual Islamic jihadists on the planet today – a number which could jump one hundred fold almost instantaneously should the opportunity arise.
Before you get a warm and cozy feeling, thinking that only 60% of Muslims are sufficiently indoctrinated in fundamentalist Islam to be a terrorist should the opportunity arise, and that only 25% of those Muslims are the appropriate age and sex to actually engage in jihad, let’s consider some recent historical events. In 1917, less than 3% of Russians were Communists. Yet since that 3% was sufficiently corrupted by an immoral and ruthless religion (Socialist Secular Humanism), they quickly came to oppress the entire nation – murdering 30 million Russians in the process. In 1924, less than 3% of Germans were Nazis. And yet since that 3% was sufficiently corrupted by Hitler’s “People’s Religion” as it was immorally and ruthlessly laid out in Mein Kampf, that 3% came to oppress the entire nation and led the world into a war that killed 50 million people.
Also keep in mind that while only 15% of Muslims (men and women) are potential jihadists today, that population is growing rapidly. So when you cut that 15% in two (7.5% males who are potential jihadists) you still have a global figure of 11,250,000 male Muslims worldwide that are potential jihadists.
sheik yer'mami says
Funny that.
Every time you draw a Mo-toon or burn a Koran, large numbers of Muslims are threatening us that all 1.5 gazillion Koranimals will come charging out of their mosques and kill us all.
But not to worry, Hussein Obama wouldn’t lie to us, right?
Richie says
so once again. Obama makes excuses for Islam.
Its clear which side he is on
patsw says
Acquiescence is not “rejection”
KrazyKafir says
But what happens when almost half of Muslims agree with the terrorist’s end game of spreading Sharia and it’s dominance? And how far will they go in supporting the military wing of the ummah?
Bezelel says
Not a smidgeon of BS. He’s like honest Abe or George Washington and the cherry tree!!! (sarc)
jewdog says
If indeed what Obama maintains about the great majority of Muslims is true, then I’m truly in awe at the amazing effectiveness of the mere .01 percent of jihadis. They have altered air travel, caused the Western world to go into economic recessions, taken over vast areas of the earth, murdered thousands in recent attacks, millions more in ages past, have left entire countries in chaos or under totalitarian control and today constitute the number one security threat to the planet. Just think what would happen if one percent were jihadis.
ApolloSpeaks says
ISN’T THIS THE PRESIDENT WHO RESORTS TO STATISTICAL TRICKERY
on the GDP, job growth, inflation, climate change and deported illegal aliens? And wasn’t this the president who told a French reporter that according to statistics “America is one of the largest Moslem countries in the world?” There are lies, damned lies, and Barack Obama’s statistics
http://www.apollospeaks.com
BW022 says
99.9%? You sure is isn’t 99.8%?
If you are going to give a number to three decimal points of accuracy… you’d better be quoting some type of science experiment… since nothing else in the world gives you that level off accuracy. Even the best polls are +/- a few percentage points 19 out of 20 times. The sample size needed to poll anything two three decimal points would be massive.
Further, it would be trivial to disprove any such numbers. One can name Islamic groups with tens of thousands of members and populations of millions which support them. Just add together the number of Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Nusra Front, Boko Haram, Taliban (and their Pakistani branches), Al-Qaeda (and their off-shoots), and the Islamic State. You are talking hundreds of thousands just there. And they are supported by millions more.
Not to mention… never in history has a 0.01% group ever gained power including virtually taking over entire countries?
What is more frightening than Obama actually saying this is that the media and public didn’t immediately ask “How could you possibly know that number? Let alone that accurately?”
rev g says
Of course, with a quoted 99.9% the number in support would be 0.1% not 0.01 percent anyways, a difference of 10x.
Paul says
Yes 99.9 is ridiculous. But it may, in fact be the case that in countries like Iran, a large majority, maybe as much as 90 percent of the population rejects Sharia and the fanaticism of their leaders. And where was Obama when they took to the streets in protest against the psychopath mullahs who lead them? Obama sided with the 10 percent, not the 90 percent.
bobm says
take out the jihadist form ; you have a body without bones… won.t hunt … won’t stand.. ..islam is predatory.. deceit based… says a lot about you Mr. Obama.
Don McKellar says
The lies continue. Why would Obama stop lying now about this issue? Has anything changed for him? Does he still have the same advisors (who are of course lying to him)? The song remains the same for Obama NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. Even if his daughters were kidnapped by Boka Haram, and his wife beheaded by ISIS, he would probably squeek the same crap!
mgoldberg says
Mark Goldberg • a few seconds ago
And all those muslims who while living in western nations, vote in polls for the creation of sharia states where they live, instead of western laws?
Now, what role do they have in regard to the supremacists and their beliefs.
It means …they will not stand in their way.
Jon Sobieski says
Obama says 99.9% of Muslims don’t believe the koran. Isn’t that what he is saying? lol The koran is full of persecution of the kaffirs. Ch 9 is dedicated to it! Have any of the MSM ever read any critical articles that explain the koran or is that forbidden?
dlbrand says
Yes indeed, per Obama, “ ‘Overwhelming majority of Muslims reject’ jihadists’ view of Islam,” which of course means, overwhelming majority of Muslims reject the teachings of their beloved so-called prophet and the “Book” he brought.
Thus, any day now, surely, we hear tell of, Muslims, across the globe–except for that 1% that represent the mujahidin–they have grabbed their beloved “prophet” by the seat of his haji pants, the scruff of his main, and hurled him out of “Islam”– him, and all he brought to the so-called din.
Julio Valenciano says
I’ve been reading Jihad Watch for awhile now. I totally agree with educating people about the dangers of Islam. We just need to look at Islamic countries & sharia law. Most importantly, study history.
We need to get to the marrow of it all though which is evil. That which lives inside each & every one of us. Anyone with regrets understands this. If you don’t have any, take a psychopath test.
We need to guard ourselves against evil reactions in combatting terrorism. As in the kill lists our military executes. This will have many who initially oppose the taliban, isis, etc. join them when their families become collateral damage.
Let’s fight the good fight.
Don McKellar says
What is this post? Some kind of a joke or con job? You cleary DO NOT get it. In your third paragraph you suddenly switch around say it’s evil to specifically target known Islamic terrorists because if some bystander gets killed then their family members will become a Taliban or ISIS member. So by your “logic”, Islamic supremacists are created by the evil of the US Military. By targetting and killing terrorists, the US Military is evil, by Julio Valenciano’s reckoning. Therefore, they are not responsible for their own raping, murdering, slavery, jew-hate, gay murdering, pedophilia, thievery, lying, and all the rest of the traits of a devout moslem. The US Military made them do it!
Fuck off, Julio Valenciano.
Julio Valenciano says
Don, chill out. We could debate about this without vulgarity. Come on.
ISIS & their ilk want to take over the world. We must fight back but we can’t go about doing so like savages.
It’s natural for someone to want to get back at whoever has hurt, let alone killed their relative. It’s a natural, human, real world response. We have to be careful about how we go about things. The end doesn’t justify the means. Do you disagree?
voegelinian says
I’d ask this nonce-commenter (whose name I’ve never seen before in the 12 years I’ve been combing through Jihad Watch comments), Julio Valenciano: Do you condemn the a-bombing of HIroshima and Nagasaki along with the fire-bombing of Tokyo, Omuta, Hamamatsu, Yokkaichi, and Kagoshima, as well as in Germany, Dresden and other cities during WW2? Yes or no?
Xero_G says
I agree with Julio V: It would be morally superior for the President of the USA to release a strongly worded statement condemning, in no uncertain terms, “acts of violence”. Killing Jihadists only creates MORE Jihadists from the survivors. The way to end Global Jihad is “bomb” them with economic aid, education, peace, love and understanding. (sarc/off)
Keith says
I agree we should guard against evil reactions, that would be things like deliberately targeting the child of a terrorist, nuking a remote village because a terrorist is holed up there and taking a captive then demanding that a terrorist hand himself over or we will behead the captive. Of course there are also the things like what happened in Abu Ghraib, which should never happen in a civilized society.
voegelinian says
We already do that. The armies of the entire West of the 21st century are the most humane and civilized in all world history.
Demsci says
Obama:
“But I think we do ourselves a disservice in this fight if we are not taking into account the fact that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject this ideology. I reject a notion that somehow that creates a religious war, because the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject that interpretation of Islam.
I think that that for Western leaders eventually should not be enough to ask from Muslims, especially those living in and migrating into Democratic countries.
“rejecting the ISIS-interpretation of Islam” is much too vague. In my view Muslims and sympathizers/ supporters only see some kind of “normal Islam” and then this negative deviation from it.
But this negative deviation is very big, arguably endorsed by hundreds of millions, on key issues.
No, this gives Islam and Muslims a bad name. and since religion must be considered a choice; Muslims should at least try to restore trustworthyness and credibility. Or at least Western leaders should hold them to be accountable for that.
The huge negative interpretation of ISIS is caused by vagueness, ambiguity, incompleteness, obsoleteness, so “faultyness” of Quran-Hadiths-Sira and Tafsir.
This means that Muslims should endeavour to promote POSITIVE DEVIATIONS from “normal Islam” or that they at least should be asked to do so, on pain of remaining untrustworthy, and liable to refusal of immigration if this ambiguity goes on unchecked.
A thinkable Positive Deviation from “normal Islam” would be: Some sort of “New Islam”, this time on membership-conditions, so that “rotten apples’ misunderstanders” can be thrown out.
Tenets of “new Islam should be negotiated between Islamic leaders and Democratic leaders. And while Muslims still will want to obey Allah, they also must accept the supremacy of the constitution, when they present themselves as following “New Islam”.
I know it sounds far-fetched, but I meant that Western leaders should demand THIS from Muslims, and then let consequences follow from refusal, consequences like prohibiting any more “normal Muslims” to immigrate. On grounds of following dangerous faulty holy texts.
BC says
Unfortunately Islam is not a choice for those born in to it. They are branded like calves at birth and indoctrinated as soon as they can speak. This brainwashing goes on throughout their formative years
in schools and madrassas. Also leaving Islam incurs the death penalty, often from one’s own family
who cannot live with the shame of one of theirs being an apostate
roger woodhouse says
Very true BC.That whole religion was spread by fear and ‘fear’ maintains it.Our leaders are in fear of Islam and will do and say anything to keep violence off our streets.One day soon though we will have to confront it head on to preserve our way of life which will of course involve loss of life(not the lives of politicians though)
Spot On says
Absolutely… And the B.O. 99.9% figure is a bold faced lie the same as “If You want to keep your Doctor…” The liar in chief is at it again, this time in support Muslims. The actual percentage figures of radical or their sympathizers among Muslims are staggering, depending on where the polls are taken. Many years ago, there was a poll of US Muslim citizens (who are supposedly “assimilated”) taken, and 25-40% supported Muslim suicide bombers. We have con artists like B.O. and most Muslims continually telling us lies with the fawning support of the MSM. The best point of reference to get at the real truth is JW where actual news and commentary about real Muslim events throughout the world are told. MSM including FOX NEWS and most politicians are lying through there teeth when they defend Muslims and omit their atrocities. The fact is that Muslims embrace the very same supremacist qualities that they would normally like to hate.
How often have we heard the term “not all Muslims are terrorists” or “Islam is a peaceful religion”? How often have the same commentators and politicians remained silent when Muslim’s harass or kill Jews and Christians? The 99.9% figure is absurd and how often have these same people made derogatory remarks or innuendo about Jews and Christians. Any casual incident of violence regarding Jews and Christians is reported instantly around the globe with glee while daily repeated violence perpetrated by Muslims is not reported and covered up.
TheCountess says
In response to ‘Spot On’,
I am in ‘waiting patient’ mode. And will probably be here for yet a while longer for the day to finally come when ‘O’ admits openly and without any concerns his true identity, background and supports. That he is indeed Muslim, not eligible for the office of President and so forth. That he does not even stand for the office he holds is self evident in bowing to Muslim officials. Never a cross word, while millions are being beheaded, including children, whether Christian or not, Jew or not. My only consolation right now is that God keeps perfect books.And one day will come when judgement will come.I am simply marking time.
shabeer_hassan says
Prophet allow Apostate to live
Muslim :: Book 20 : Hadith 4593
It has been narrated by Salama b. al-Akwa’ that he visited al-Hajjaj who said to him: O son of al-Akwa’, you have turned apostate and have come to live again in the desert with the Bedouins (after your migration). He said: No, but the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) has permitted me to live in the desert.
Angemon says
shabeer_hassan posted:
“Prophet allow Apostate to live”
Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:
Narrated ‘Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”
shabeer_hassan says
BC
Prophet allow Apostate to live
Muslim :: Book 20 : Hadith 4593
It has been narrated by Salama b. al-Akwa’ that he visited al-Hajjaj who said to him: O son of al-Akwa’, you have turned apostate and have come to live again in the desert with the Bedouins (after your migration). He said: No, but the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) has permitted me to live in the desert.
#The Evil Jihadist are the ones practicing the correct version of Islam as it is written in the Quran,Hadith and the Sunna.
60:8. Allâh does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allâh loves those who deal with equity.
Jihad declare only the people who broken the agreement/mischief land/terrorism/injustice
22:39. Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allâh is Able to give them (believers) victory
8: 56. They are those with whom you made a covenant, but they break their covenant every time and they do not fear Allâh.
57. So if you gain the mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson.
58. If you (O Muhammad SAW) fear treachery from any people throw back (their covenant) to them (so as to be) on equal terms (that there will be no more covenant between you and them). Certainly Allâh likes not the treacherous.
# most Muslims don’t act-out the violent commands, doesn’t mean those violent commands don’t exist.
No violence against the people who agreement/bond with Muslim
Muslim :: Book 7 : Hadith 3164
A hadith like this has been narrated on the authority of A’mash with the same chain of transmitters (but at the end) these words are added:” He who violated the covenant with a Muslim, there is upon him the curse of Allah, of angels and of all people. Neither an obligatory act nor a supererogatory act would be accepted from him as recompense on the Day of Resurrection; and in the hadith transmitted by two other narrators these words are not found:” He who claimed false paternity.” And in the hadith transmitted by Waki’ there is no mention of the Day of Resurrection.
Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 92
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is the worst of false tales. and do not look for the others’ faults, and do not do spying on one another, and do not practice Najsh, and do not be jealous of one another and do not hate one another, and do not desert (stop talking to) one another.
Don McKellar says
Well isn’t it odd how there are thousands of murders of apostates, and countries from Saudi Arabia to Iran have death for apostates as law. I guess that shabeer_hassan knows more about Islam than they do, huh?
You will notice in your little story, shabeer_hassan, that they are refering to a single exception to the rule of death sentence for apostates mandated by Islam. So one guy in the Islamic texts got to live, while all his fellow apostates where murdered when found. Wow — now that’s a “prophet” with a heart!
TruthWFree says
Shabeer, leave your evil religion. It is a recipe for fighting and killing until the Quran and Islam is no more. Man does not need an allah god to tell him to kill. Man does a pretty good job of killing without an allah god exhorting him to kill. Come to the Truth and Light of Jesus Christ. Read the Gospels and see that Jesus Christ did die on the cross and was crucified because He said He is the Son of God. Your Quran lies about both these events recorded in the Gospels 600 to 700 years before the Quran. Jesus said in the Gospels that Satan is the father of all lies. It was Satan that appeared to Muhammad and urged him to kill and rob for Satan. Muhammad could not be the final prophet if he followed the Son of God. He had to lie about Jesus’ divinity…only a prophet…and Jesus teachings are love and forgiveness, not hate and killing unbelievers. Leave your evil hate filled religion or you will be complicit with the killers.
dlbrand says
shabeer_hassan says: “ Prophet allow Apostate to live”
Good morning, Shabeer,
I think you would make a good non-Muslim, given, you clearly want your din to be something other than what it is.
In the above hadith you posted, you clearly posted it hoping to show your “prophet” allowed someone who apostatized from Islam to live.
But you have entirely misunderstood the hadith: your “prophet” allowed him to live, just as the hadith states, “in the desert,” as a Muslim, with the Bedouins, with whom, he had formerly lived before his migration to Medinah, and his acceptance of Islam.
For that reason, when Al-Hajjal made the charge of apostasy against Salama b. Al-Akwa, the latter categorically refuted the charge, asserting, as the hadith states, “No,” in other words, no I have not apostate, “but the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) has permitted me to live in the desert.”
Maybe these notes from your revered scholars will help you more clearly understand the hadith:
dlbrand says
Correction:
And your welcome, Shabeer, anytime, actually. I don’t mind at all, really, it is not a problem, I am happy to help you understand and come to know the realities of you din. And I have quite a number of regarded and reliable sources, from, as they say in Islam, “those with knowledge” [of the din].
Therefore, anytime you need some clarification on what your revered scholars have to say on a topic, or the clarification they provide, just post your comment here, either I or someone else here will pick it up, help you out.
Your welcome, shabeer, your welcome, it was nothing.
voegelinian says
Thanks, Daniel Pipes Jr. We’ll call you when we have the kind of fantasy Muslims & Islam you are speculating about.
Jack HOLAN says
I’m not going to waste many words on the Presidents nonsense OBAMA IS THE PROBLEM.
gordon miller says
You got that right. As long as that “Mullah-in- Chief sits in the oval office our American way of life will be eroded.
voegelinian says
This is Jihad Watch, not Leftist Watch.
BC says
Multiple surveys have shown up to 70% of support for Sharia even in Western country Muslims
Sharia would have to be imposed by force as no non Muslims would ever accept its barbarity. Sharia is the essence of Islam they embrace it willingly. So Obama’s claim is nonsensical
particolor says
And He Knows It !!
voegelinian says
“Sharia would have to be imposed by force as no non Muslims would ever accept its barbarity.”
Exactly; though I would add that not only is Sharia barbarous, it’s also outrageously anti-liberal (where liberal here is meant in terms of the classical liberalism of, say, Edmund Burke and James Madison; to pluck just two illustrious examples from a peruke out of the thousdands one could adduce). This is one indication that the Leftists proper (and certainly the radical Leftists, a distinct category) of our time are not really liberal, but have Fascist reflexes & instincts; for they seem not only blithely unconcerned with the outrageously anti-liberal words & deeds of Muslims, but positively defend them from substantive criticism (let alone the condemnation they so richly deserve).
gerard says
Earth to Obama! Earth to Obama! Come in please!
terry says
He took a protein pill that closed his ears, and now he hears no more- poor, poor earth.
lebel says
“Where are the Muslim protests against the killing of the cartoonists and in support of the freedom of speech? Why is this 99.9% so silent and passive in the face of this “hijacking” of their religion?”
This would immediately be dismissed as taqqiya on jihadwatch and like-minded sites. But the real question is, if taqqiya is real why don’t a few thousand muslims out of 1.6 billion finally use it and undertake a fake march against terrorism in order to fool the naive infidels? all the other Muslims would understand that this is taqqiya and the west would have its anti-terror muslim march. 14 years after 911 this somehow seems very difficult despite the fact that their religion orders them to lie, lie and lie.
voegelinian says
“if taqqiya is real why don’t a few thousand muslims out of 1.6 billion finally use it and undertake a fake march against terrorism in order to fool the naive infidels?”
Why expend effort they don’t need to? The taqiyya they have been doing has been working swimmingly for them; the entire Western mainstream remains on their side (with only the residual problem of a growing, albeit tiny, nucleus of concerned individuals slowly waking up).
Lia Wissing says
Some in the West persist in seeing Islam as a religion. It is a system of government, of brainwashing and foreign policy.
Joginder Singh says
Islam is no more a religion than it is a race though when you point out islam’s myriad failings the leftard useful idiots seem unaware of this fact thus blowing their argument out of the water and making them look the fools they are for failing to find out the reality of islam
Xero_G says
Obama makes a common error: confusing Islam (the religion/political system) with Muslim (the people). Just because most Muslims don’t act-out the violent commands, doesn’t mean those violent commands don’t exist.
voegelinian says
Muslims following and enabling Islam are the problem — a problem that is both systemic (much more broad-based than a “Tiny Minority of Extremists” and of an indeterminable number) and metastasizing (getting worse in a Train-Wreck-About-To-Happen-Like-a-Shitstorm-About-to-Hit-the-Fan-While-We-Remain-Pleasantly-Blinking-Like-Naive-Fools-With-Our-Pants-Around-Ankles kind of way). It is a red herring / straw man to deflect onto the “all Muslims” canard.
J. E. Vig says
An account of 41.260 answers Al-Jazeera, where five questiones should be answered 7 – 10 September 2006.
The second answer : “Do you support Osama bin Laden“. Whatever the character of question the distribution gave: 20.601 YES (49,9%) and 20.659 NO (50,1%). The link has been removed, naturally.
Miss Apostate says
Well those muslims are cowards they scare of suicide bombers if they could make a march against the terrorists.
So all they can do it kill whoever insults islam or march against nonsense cartoons, trying to make the islam look good but it’s already religion of submission it can’t be while there are those jihadists.
Enthuoli says
“where is this 99.9%? ” Indeed. Where does that number come from?
Not from France, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Austria and Sweden anyway unless the 3 topics from http://www.wzb.eu/en/press-release/islamic-fundamentalism-is-widely-spread blow :
“Return to the roots”
“Only one true and binding interpretations”
“Religious rules are more important than secular laws”
aren’t ” jihadists’ view of Islam ” of course and hence Brigitte Gabriel’s view would be mistaken :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fBqlyjESg
“The radicals are estimated to be between 15 to 25 percent, according to all intelligence services around the world.” …as mentioned in http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/terrorism-security/2015/0113/How-many-Muslim-extremists-are-there-Just-the-facts-please
“Even if that figure was 3,000 and even if that represented only a tenth of all the Muslims in Europe “dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization,” that would put the figure at 0.01 percent of Europe’s Muslims, not between 15 and 25 percent as Gabriel claims”
But here http://ajm.ch/wordpress/?p=1043 and http://www.gallup.com/poll/104941/what-makes-radical.aspx
“According to the Gallup Poll, 7% of respondents think that the 9/11 attacks were “completely” justified and view the United States unfavorably. Among those who believe that the 9/11 attacks were not justified, whom we’ll call “moderates,” 40% are pro-United States, but 60% view the United States unfavorably.”
“Apparemment, selon le test même des auteurs, il n’y a pas 91 millions de radicaux dans les sociétés musulmanes, mais près du double. (…)
Les données complètes sur la question du 11 septembre indiquent qu’en plus des 13,5% , il faut compter avec 23,1 autres % des répondants — 300 millions de Musulmans — qui ont déclaré que les attentats du 11 septembre étaient justifiés d’une certaine manière.” (use bing or Google translator)
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/pg-2014-07-01-islamic-extremism-10/
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/pg-2014-07-01-islamic-extremism-11/
http://www.islamist-watch.org/blog/2011/09/pew-poll-quantifies-the-radical-minority-of-us
Then Brigitte seems to be right when we cross the wzb, the gall-up poll and the Pew analysis.
Jack HOLAN says
If I use the 7% Figure who believe 9/11 was justified and that we deserved it that equals 210,000 Muslims in the US who feel they are an enemy of the US. If 1 in 5 are committed enough to commit violence we have to worry about 42,000 potential terrorists already in the country.
FBI Minority Rights Violations reveals that in 2013 Muslims were a tiny dot at the bottom of the Chart. Jews were first, Latinos second, Blacks or another. Group third, and Muslims were fifth. However Obama is running around as if people are burning their Mosques and homes down, spitting in their faces on the street and and jeering them so on and on. This President does not believe in the basic good of Americans that we can make a distinction not be the new KKK. Obama though, has no faith(no pun intended) in Jews or Christians. Yet how many acts of terror have been committed by Muslims and Obama reaches out to protect them, investigate the investigators of Mosques and profilers.
Matthieu Baudin says
The President speaks with an air of authority but anyone who pulls out a 99.9% figure on a whim is clearly innumerate. War leaders need to be able to count – how many months have you got left with him?
peter weber says
99.9 repeating is equivalent to 100.
sheikh y'booty says
Fine words.
Meanwhile, we’re all waiting for the next Islamo-atrocity. Which of course, will have “nothing to do with Islam”, because “Islam is a religion of peace”, right?
rangerrebew says
The majority of Germans didn’t believe in Nazism, either, though I doubt is was 99.9%. But look what they perpetrated with a minority of people!
Enthuoli says
“99.9% of Muslims, Obama says, reject the terrorists’ understanding of Islam.”
Really?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm
BARRY says
Obama saying, “Overwhelming majority of Muslims reject” jihadists’ view of Islam, is like Obama, when he said, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”
Roha Waha says
Where are the Muslim Divisions and Battalions forming, the righteous Muslims that refuse to let Islam be destroyed by the jihadist who steal, maim and slaughter the people of other religions. Where are the True
and Righteous Muslims willing to fight and lay down their lives to protect their Righteous Brothers against
the FAKE MUSLIM JIHADIST as they call them, NOWHERE !
Because all Muslims know what the Progressives refuse to acknowledge , The Evil Jihadist are the ones practicing the correct version of Islam as it is written in the Quran,Hadith and the Sunna.
Jack says
Says the guy arming more Muslim that Muhammad.
Judyann J says
First let me say, 99.9999% of Obama’s EVERY statement, speech, commentaries are riddled with lies, vigorously “massaged” facts and the intentional torture of truth. Thus, and with the absolute loss of confidence in anything Obama puts forth, no doubt that 99.9% figure is way off the mark..in fact, and thanks to their acts of Taqiyya, Muslims commanded to lie in their dealings with infidels, it is absolutely impossible to estimate the real number of non-radicalized Muslims (or sympathizers). But because of their vast numbers, even a very small percentage of radical Islam sympathizers translates into millions of people who seek to destroy Western civilization.
nothosaur says
It’s one thing to say a statistic. It’s another thing to cite a statistic. What poll did Obama base this on?
Why did nobody ask him for his source?
Here is a poll that leads to a different conclusion:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm
Vatandas says
I wonder if Pres. Obama really thinks that we buy into anything that he says at this point in his presidency?
Xero_G says
99.9% of people are not killed by an intoxicated driver. This proves that driving while intoxicated is a peaceful practice.
Truth says
I noticed Michele Obama didn’t cover her hair while in Saudi Arabia. Maybe she’s not buying all of her husbands foolish mindset either.
Angemon says
She bigger balls than Obama…
GKP says
I don’t believe Mr.Obama had read the Qur’an , Hadit and Sura before giving the statement.
It is the critical time we are facing against the invation of Islam against the civilizations. History will never forgive such person who willing or mistakingly favouring Islamic jihad.
Jeff says
I see nothing in history that shows letting Muslims into democratic secular societies is a good idea.
Hummer says
He has learned his lessons well-taqiyya and not talking about abrogation. There are a majority of so called moderates who say or do nothing if not for fear alone-they know that you do not change the words and push come to shove-whose side do you really think they will be on? Secularism is not a part of this evil ideology but he’s trying sell the idea that it is because he is a secularist and certainly not a Christian by his social engineering and Marxist ideas that he is implementing.
gerard says
Overwhelming majority of Muslims reject Obama’s view of Islam.
Sam says
OBAMA=CLUELESS. Not only about Islam but almost about anything else. And Ameriica chose him twice and his liberal
Geppetto says
Taqiyya. This “Christian” is an expert.
M S case says
wonder what Obama was smoking when he come up with the 99% figure
Shane says
Obama just makes up stuff and usually the liberal MSM will cover it up. He’s full of sh&t on this.
pongidae rex says
It is called ‘magical thinking’. It is seeing only what your ideology and preconceptions allow you to see even when reality contradicts it. Magical thinking has no place in high office, but in the West, it is the only form of thinking allowed and a prerequisite for any sort of career advancement.
Christopher Stubbs says
Obama is full of it. Muslims are Muslims and there is not such thing as extreme Muslims and Moderate Muslims says Imam Anjem Choudary, There are Muslims and Non-practicing Muslims and the non-practicing Muslims are apostates and should be put to death as it says in the cursed book..Choudty also says Islam is not a religion of peace but of submission to Allah.. 2 types of Jihad the Muslims use and that is the overt violent Jihad and following Quor’an in killing Jews,Christians and non-believers and apostates and the quiet jihad, the biological where Muslims are to inhabit and have lots of children to Islamise every country. They pressure governments and make enclaves of Muslims which come no-go zones and implement Sharia Law. Obama is Muslim and has let 20 million muslims into the country and given benefits that no others have gotten whem immigrated. He is a hypocrite and practices Deception.
“Deception in Islam takes various subtle forms – Taqiyya being merely the most commonly quoted form – and this article from the website Islam Watch succinctly defines the differences between Taqiyya, (deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam), Tawriya, (deceit by ambiguity), Kitman (deceit by omission), and Muruna (deceit by the temporary suspension of Sharia). An additional article from the website Islam Exposed touches upon the concepts of Taysir (deceit through facilitation), and Darura (deceit through necessity)”.
Read more at http://broadsidenews.com/deception-islam-taqiyya-tawriya-kitman-muruna/#DfqrZMfIkfHhzc5y.99
Walter Sieruk says
It should be of no surprise to anyone that Obama would make that statement. For example, Brigitte Gabriel who is the founder and head of actforamerica.org and the author of the book entitled they must be stopped was on television on FOX NEWS and she was right on the mark when she said that “Obama is more interested in protecting the image of Islam then protecting the safety of the American public.” Lets face it, Obama has a strong case of denial concerning the violent nature that is so much part of the essence of Islam. Therefore, Obama is now and will continue to be useless in the battle against the murderous evils of the jihad of Islam. For that matter ,Obama is so far from reality on this subject that he uses the term “violent extremism” instead of calling it what is really is which is Islamic terrorism.
Jay Boo says
Reassurance for the wishfully ignorant.
Allah sees all of mankind as property and slaves.
Allah’s view of spiritual enlightenment is an offer of sexual orgies.
Muhammad the founder of the sex slave religion of Islam, coincidentally had the same view.
99.9% of Muslims still bow to flaunt their ‘humility’ before Islam’s villainy.
Bill says
Is there a modern democrat on the planet who doesn’t lie about what Muslims lust for?
-http://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/obama4.jpg 99.9% of Muslims, Obama says, reject the terrorists’ understanding of Islam.
-7/10/07 worldpress.org: Poll of Muslims in Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan and Indonesia indicates that 75% believe in strict application of Sharia law.
-2/08 un.org/en/women/endviolence United Nations Report: Over 130 million girls and women, mainly in Muslims nations, have undergone FGM (Female Genital Mutilation); each year 2 million girls are subjected to FGM.
-6/14/10 http://abcnews.go.com “Each day in Africa and Asia, more than 8,000 girls between infancy and age 15 undergo female genital cutting [FGM], an estimated total of three million girls annually.” The CDC estimates that between 150,000 to 200,000 girls in the United States may be forced to undergo FMG.
-4/30/13 Pew Research poll: Most Muslims believe sharia is the revealed word of God rather than a body of law developed by men based on the word of God.
-http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/200… Federation of Student Islamic Societies: 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
-1/29/07 Daily Telegraph UK: Of Muslims between ages 16 to 24 40% want Sharia law; 13% admire al-Qaeda; 36% believe apostates should be executed; 75% believe that women should wear veils.
-7/27/08 Sunday Times UK: 33% of British Muslim students support killing for Islam; 33% want world Islamic law.
-http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawO… 36% of young UK Muslims believe apostates should be killed.
-http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-the-counselor/sexuality/162573-whats-the-solution-for-gays-and-bisexuals.html The punishment is death according to Islam.
-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7234870.stm Under Sharia law the majority of Muslim scholars believe apostasy is punishable by death.
-wikipedia: “The majority of Muslim scholars hold to the traditional view that apostasy is punishable by death or imprisonment until repentance…”
-11/1/11 http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/str…35% Muslims living in Canada will not disown Al-Qaida; 62% wanted some form of Sharia law in Canada.
-November 2011 MacDonald-Laurier Institute poll of Canadian Muslims: Only 39% of Muslim respondents disagree strongly with the idea of introducing a Caliphate (world Sharia law); 75% want Sharia in Canada; 20,000 support Al Qaeda.
-11/24/14 http://rt.com 43% of Islamic teachers in Vienna don’t hide the fact that they’re against democratic principles. They also favor the introduction of Sharia law.
And the Liar in Chief says that 99.9% of Muslims want what we want?
One cannot reason with people who don’t respect facts. It’s simply not possible.
duh_swami says
I don’t get it. When I access JW from goodle I get a stale version with no articles since the 30th. This 99.9 article isn’t there. I accessed this from Arlas shrugs.
duh_swami says
I must have been banned or something…I can’t access a up to date version of JW and so far I can’t post…I got this from shrugs.
duh_swami says
I see I can’t get here from google, but I can from the address bar.
saturnine says
Same here. Hold down the shift key and click the refresh/reload icon in your browser. The web server is telling the browser that there’s nothing new on the site, so the browser doesn’t retrieve it. Holding the shift key forces it.
Dab says
Funny.
According to Gert Wilder over 2/3s of Muslims, that’s 66.66666%, SUPPORT Islamic acts of terror.
Obama just can’t seem to get a grasp on reality.
duh_swami says
What would America be like if we had a stealth jihadist in the wH?
wildbill2u says
Most people have never seen or understood the various polls that reveal the attitude of Muslims worldwide regarding terrorism as a legitimate tenet of the Koran. There have been many polls and they can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_towards_terrorism
The minimum percentages who oppose violence or terrorism are very high, especially in terms of numbers of Muslim people who believe in violent jihad. It isn’t very comforting for an American to hear that ‘only’ 20% of the estimated two million US Muslims are radical about violence if that 20% equals 400,000 people who think it is OK to kill or enslave me in the name of their religion.
The interesting thing to me isn’t the variation between Muslims in predominately Muslim countries and Muslims in non-Muslim countries. That can be expected. However, the polls are usually couched in terms of whether they approve violence or terrorism. Since many acts of terrorism or violence by the “radicals” occur against their fellow Muslims, it is reasonable to assume that many Muslims are against violence that might affect them.
As far as I can tell, the polls DON’T ask if they oppose all violence or terrorism for religious reasons. If they were polled about violence or terrorism against the infidel, then the percentages would be higher.
Kilfincelt says
Obama is as usual deluded! Can’t we get him admitted to a psychiatric ward for the criminally insame?
Edward says
“I think that for us to be successful in fighting this scourge, it’s very important for us to align ourselves with the 99.9 percent of Muslims who are looking for the same thing we’re looking for: order, peace, prosperity,” Obama
Most of your constituents don’t have the same self conceived optics concepts as you envision, Mr. Obama!
Considering, that 99.9% of Islam’s believers are still obligated to read the Koranic words of engagement as the rest of the violent 0.1% Jihadist loyalists. All for the domination of the world and propagation of sharia laws.
Here are some of the Koran’s examples of engagements that are professed to All Muslims.
Koran commands to kill infidels: Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme – Sura 8:39 More of the Same @:
http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html
Edward says
” it’s very important for us to align ourselves with the 99.9 percent of Muslims who are looking for the same thing we’re looking for: order, peace, prosperity,” – Obama
Your subliminal philological messages are no longer effective….for if ‘WE the People’ would be fools if we would align ourselves with the 99.9 percent of Muslims, for we would be signing our future death warrants….savvy! Adherents to the Koran are not trust worthy! For they only abide to their own set of rules, the very same rules that applies the the remaining 0.1% violent Jihaists as well….both always playing in a unpredictable playing field. Using creative lying as their standard benchmark.
By agreeing with you we would be loosing our sovereignty and stripping our God Given Dignity! By agreeing with you we would be stumbling to your sinful ploy.
BTW, whose side are you with? This tactical plan of yours only appeasses the enemy at our expense. For patriotic Americans never appeases or bows to its enemies. NEVER!
Let’s not forget that the colors on the American Flag never runs….they are 100% fasten to its clothe. White signifies purity and innocence, Red, bravery & valour, and Blue, the color of the legiment Chief….as an investment for our Happiness, our Security and our Liberty for ever!
Clothe = to endow or invest
Edward says
Sorry typo: legiment , No …..legitimate,Yes