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Sharia UK: Police in 3 counties sought names of Charlie Hebdo buyers

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SpencerSept282012CharlieSavageThe incident I wrote about Monday was not isolated. Clearly it was a planned initiative, ordered by — whom? Will there be an investigation now? Or will Sharia UK slip just this much further into the darkness, and let these officials who are collecting information on violators of Sharia blasphemy laws pass unrebuked?

“Police from several UK forces seek details of Charlie Hebdo readers,” by Josh Halliday and Shiv Malik, the Guardian, February 10, 2015:

Several British police forces have questioned newsagents in an attempt to monitor sales of a special edition of Charlie Hebdo magazine following the Paris attacks, the Guardian has learned.

Officers in Wiltshire, Wales and Cheshire have approached retailers of the magazine, it has emerged, as concerns grew about why police were attempting to trace UK-based readers of the French satirical magazine.

Wiltshire police apologised on Monday after admitting that one of its officers had asked a newsagent to hand over the names of readers who bought a special “survivors’ issue” of the magazine published after its top staff were massacred in Paris last month.

The case in Corsham, Wiltshire, was thought to be an isolated incident but it has since emerged that Cheshire constabulary and Dyfed-Powys police have also approached newsagents over the sale of Charlie Hebdo.

In at least two cases – in Wiltshire and in Presteigne, Wales – officers have requested that newsagents hand over the names of customers who bought the magazine.

“This is so ridiculous as to be almost laughable. And it would be funny if it didn’t reflect a more general worrying increase in abuse of police powers in invading privacy and stifling free speech in Britain,” said Jodie Ginsberg, chief executive of free expression campaign group Index on Censorship.

“Does possessing a legally published satirical magazine make people criminal suspects now? If so, I better confess that I too have a copy of Charlie Hebdo.”

Paul Merrett, 57, the owner of a newsagent in Presteigne, Wales, said a detective and a police community support officer from Dyfed-Powys police spent half an hour asking his wife Deborah, 53, about the magazine.

“They wanted to know about Charlie Hebdo. They came in unannounced and we had customers,” he said. “There were questions asking where we got the Charlie Hebdo copies from, did we know who we sold them to – which we didn’t say. We were a bit bemused because it was out of the blue.”

“My wife said, ‘Am I in trouble?’ because she thought she was in trouble for selling them. They said, ‘No, you’re not in trouble’ but just continued with their questioning for half an hour.”

Merrett added: “It was all about Charlie Hebdo. I guess they wanted names and addresses of people we sold them to, which we didn’t tell them anything like that. We sold 30 copies.

“My wife was a bit worried with the questioning but she certainly wouldn’t have given any names to the police. I’m shocked they asked. They wanted to know where we got the copies from, how did we let the customers know that we had them.”…

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  1. You would think that the Police had better things-to do with their time and our money.

    • I think, a la Rotherham, they’ve proven “better things to do” is nowhere on their agenda.

  2. Muslims have infiltrated every aspect of British society including the police and judiciary. This witch hunt for Charli Hebdo readers was probably instigated by Muslims in these regional police forces.
    The Muslim 5th column has apparently moved on to stage two of their stealth invasion of Britain——collecting “get rid of” death lists of anti jihadists.

    • ”This witch hunt for Charli Hebdo readers was probably instigated by Muslims in these regional police forces”

      I think it more likely, Charli, that the orders came from the Commissioner’s offices; although no doubt it was probably **suggested** by mohammedans, and the idea was eagerly taken up.

      ”Muslims have infiltrated every aspect of British society including the police and judiciary.”

      Yes. Including the Armed Forces, and the **government**. We are in deep, deep sh**.

      I’ve posted, further down, the postal addresses of the Constabularies involved, (probably just the tip of the iceberg) and written stinging letters. You might consider doing the same ?

      • @ mirren10
        I have absolutely no doubt that our ( and all other JWers ) real identities, locations and anti jihadists opinions are well known to British authorities and increasing numbers of their Muslim cohorts.
        I have noticed on a number of occasions, a series of background clicking and static, while using my land line telephone.
        I have no doubt that the E- mails and mobile phone calls of other JW,s anti jihadists are also monitored on a regular basis.
        Muslim Big Brother is building his lists– watch your back, dear friend !!!!

        • ”Muslim Big Brother is building his lists– watch your back, dear friend !!!!”

          Luckily, I’m retired, so they can’t threaten me with loss of job/income !

          ”I have no doubt that the E- mails and mobile phone calls of other JW,s anti jihadists are also monitored on a regular basis.”

          I have no doubt you’re correct, Charli; I rather *lust* after an attempted arrest on the grounds of ‘hate speech’ , I would create an enormous stink, and thoroughly enjoy it. 🙂

          You watch your back, dear friend, also ! X

  3. Man, oh man, does it just get weirder. What in God’s name? Is it even common that a shopkeeper learns the identity of everyone he/she sells a paper to? Some serious questions need to be asked by the British people. I’d hope the human rights observers that Britain seems to need regarding Rotherham can make a little time for this as well. What an embarrassment… and creep-out-fest. If a cop asked me if I bought Charlie Hebdo I might have to take it on the chin by punching him in the face for posterity.

    On a lighter note: This photo of Robert gets me every time, it should be in the Smithsonian!

    • You’re so right. That photo is *the* classic for Spencer and this site. There is sincerity, and maybe a touch of “I told you so” in that smile, just a pinch of derisive sneer. We need that.

      Will there be an investigation now? Or will Sharia UK slip just this much further into the darkness…

      … and swirl above the drain before freedom disappears altogether from the scene in England, the place that gave America its key traditions. From the Magna Charta to the U.S. Constitution, let’s throw it all away to make sure that perpetually aggrieved scowling hairballs aren’t upset. It’s an emotional scam, with guilt along with the great emotion of fear, better termed terror where Moslems are involved.

      Speaking of Englishmen, George Orwell, Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher must be rolling in their graves. God up us.

  4. Are these Muslim cops wanting names? So they can go and kill the people who bought the mag? Wouldn’t put it past them.

  5. Robert

    My blood ran a little colder when I learned of the actions of the Wiltshire Police and now it runs colder still. I am an English lawyer and have some knowledge of how often and with what practical impunity public bodies breach data protection laws. Maybe, as has been suggested, the police are letting people know that they know where they are. But who’s to say what they will do with the information? Why wouldn’t a police force keen to promote public safety also share said information with “community groups” to encourage harmonious community relations? After all, Wiltshire Police were very clear they did nothing wrong in obtaining the information in the first place: “Wiltshire Police are confident that the police officer’s intention was purely around enhancing public safety and ensuring that the newsagent was advised appropriately.” So that’s alright, then. As for their assertion that information relating to the incident “has been permanently and securely disposed of”, anyone who believes that a police force has permanently and securely disposed of all copies of personal information first written down in a notebook, then copied and shared with who knows how many other police in who knows what ways (paper? emails? an IM system? etc) before being entered into a complex software system with multiple servers and sophisticated database back-up mechanisms, is more trusting than I.

    They now have information they should not legally have obtained and to which they had no right, and that’s it. And there is clear evidence that this was a coordinated effort between at least three county forces, coordination which was conveniently wholly unreferenced by any policy statement. As citizens, there is very little we can do. Police in this country are political apparatchiks with the huge coercive power of the State behind them, so any question as to their bona fides or reasonableness risks incurring their wrath via hostile threats or even actions.

    Regards
    Chris

  6. Typical sharia don’t look for the extremists who want to kill. Look for those who are with free speech
    London will burn like Iraq is now

  8. The police better the case of the 1400 children whom muzzies abducted, raped and groomed for prostitution. It’s outrageous who they’re snooping in people’s privacy. Free citizens can read, write and draw what they want. It’s disgusting how they suck up to muzzies.

  9. This repression by the police in these three counties in Britain, re-Charlie Hebdo, was not applied to any Muslim sex gangs in Rotherham.

    Who is to say there is not a political agenda here?

    • ”The shopkeeper should have told the police to get the hell off her property”

      If it had been me, I would have made a **huge** stink, and demanded to know what right they had to even *think* of demanding such information; taken their names and numbers, and **immediately** called their superiors to complain.

      If I had unlimited funds, I would sue the police for harassment, exceeding their duties, etc etc.

  11. Cold feeling. To be honest this does worry me. I doubt the truth and honest rationale for these enquiries will ever be known. East German Stasis all over again.

    Very disturbing.

  13. Further down in today’s Guardian article it says:

    “A Dyfed-Powys police spokeswoman declined to say why officers sought the names of Charlie Hebdo readers but said: “Following the recent terrorism incidents, Dyfed Powys police have been undertaking an assessment of community tensions across the force area.

    “Visits were made to newsagents who were maybe distributing the Charlie Hebdo magazine to encourage the newsagent owners to be vigilant. We can confirm the visits were only made to enhance public safety and to provide community reassurance.”

    The previous article about the Wiltshire police said:

    “A spokeswoman said: “Following the terrorism incident in Paris, France on 7 January 2015, Wiltshire police undertook an assessment of community tensions across the county. As part of this work, local sector policing teams were asked to be mindful of business premises, in particular newsagents who may be distributing the Charlie Hebdo magazine and to consider that these shops may be vulnerable”.

    The wording is too close for this to be a coincidence isn’t it?

  14. I hope none of the retailers gave to the police their customers’ information without a court order.

    • From the sound of it, they were all pretty shocked, and refused: good on ’em! That’s the one bright spot in all this; that these shop-keepers *didn’t* dob in their customers. Of course, the fact that they were *selling* the mag at all – andin particular, that issue – suggests that at some level these particular businesses are run by people who at some level are Islamoresistant.

      (Further thought: if *I* were they, I would make sure that any in-store CCTV footage that might show the customers buying the mags, would be made to vanish).

      They seem to have been – rightly – annoyed and alarmed by the police snooping round after their Charli-Hebdo-supporting customers – which is why this has gotten into the news.

      Perhaps they could go to Gavin Boby’s Law and Freedom Foundation, and to Paul Weston’s “Liberty GB” and make the matter known. And, for that matter, the Royal Society of St George, to warn them what is happening to the UK. And any MPs who have shown hints of backbone. Maybe Baroness Caroline Cox and Malcolm Lord Pearson, Earl of Rannoch.

    • Now that’s interesting. The regulating body cant get answers to awkward questions and describing sharia law as nebulous and fluid! They must be islamaphobes. Can be the only reason.

      Islam as we well know is peaceful honest and integrated within the UK. Just as their like for bacon butties, jews and satirical cartoons.

  16. I have just written three stinking letters, although icily polite, to the police headquarters of the forces named, and demanding that whoever gave such an order should be named, the whole affair publicised, and the officers concerned should be publicly disciplined, and/or fired.

    May I suggest others do the same ?

    Wiltshire Constabulary Headquarters

    Address:London RoadPostcode/City:SN10 2DN DevizesCounty:Wiltshire

    Dyfed-Powys Police
    Police Headquarters
    PO BOX 99
    Llangunnor
    Carmarthen
    SA31 2PF

    Cheshire Constabulary Headquarters
    Clemonds Hey
    Oakmere Road
    Winsford

    Yes, it probably won’t have any effect, but it will at least let the police, and the government know, that not everyone is going to meekly allow a police state to arise in the UK, and there will be a huge number of people who will fight this sinister kind of thing, to the last ditch.

    • Mirren,
      i applaud what you have done and principally support your suggestion. However, here’s the rub. After reading this article and other related ones I am honestly worried about the repercussions as its the police.

      I did write to burbage council regarding the exhumation of the chap laid to rest adjacent to the muslim and received a standard reply denying any wrong doing but, I am truly worried about being on the police’s radar. I’ve no criminal history or anything to hide but we all remember Dr Kelly and what happened to him and he was in the public eye!!! I dont want to think what would happen to a no mark like me.

      I am sorry and I’m jealous of your integrity.

      Keep well

      A

    • @Mirren10

      Suggest it might be more effective to write to your local MP and / or to the Minister for Police. Possibly also to the leaders of any other political party that is interested in winning seats in the next election.

      Bottom line: governments make law and decide policy. The police answer to the government, are doing what they’ve been told to do. Chances are that the various police HQs each have a correspondence clerk who will respond to your letter with standard paragraphs.

      The police were either acting in accordance with orders from above or they stepped out of line. In either case the fix has to come from above.

      • Not a bad idea, thanks. I’ll just have to get over the big yellow streak running down my back!

      • Good on all of you! Reading jihadwatch is informative and nutritious– and patriotic– but it should be the start, not the end, of our resistance. It takes action to have an effect and your efforts inspire us all!

        And don’t worry if they don’t write you back. In fact, by not writing back they further demonstrate the source of our outrage and clarify the nature of the larger issue.

      • tilde says:

        ”Suggest it might be more effective to write to your local MP and / or to the Minister for Police. Possibly also to the leaders of any other political party that is interested in winning seats in the next election.’

        I spend quite a lot of time doing exactly that.

        ”The police answer to the government, are doing what they’ve been told to do. Chances are that the various police HQs each have a correspondence clerk who will respond to your letter with standard paragraphs.”

        Well, yes, of course. However, I write my letters and emails on the premise, not that people like may, camoron et al actually deal with their own correspondence, but that whoever does deal with it may be given to think, and out of curiosity if nothing else, may be moved to actually read a koran. Water on stone, and all that.

        AndrewGB says:

        ” I am truly worried about being on the police’s radar. I’ve no criminal history or anything to hide but we all remember Dr Kelly and what happened to him and he was in the public eye!!! I dont want to think what would happen to a no mark like me.

        I am sorry and I’m jealous of your integrity”

        Thank you, Andrew, but I am a retired person, so I don’t need to worry about losing my job – I don’t know your position, but if you are employed and with a family to protect, I can certainly understand your point of view. ‘integrity’ is easy when you don’t have a job/income to lose.

        And I’m just a naturally combatative and confrontational old bat ! 🙂

        • Mirren10,

          Thank you for your reply and support. Ever thought as running for PM? You sound like just the person we need to shake that lot up. For once I disagree with you! Confrontational and combative yes, backed by sense of decency and wisdom (along with others on here) to see whats happening to the country.

          Keep up the good work

  17. British Police do faithfully follow an old tradition.

    In 1929, in Hebron in “Palestine” Mulsim Jihaddis massacred many of the Jews of Hebron.
    About two decades before Israel became a state, an “occupation” was not a credible excuse.
    The British did nothing to protect the Jews and stop the Muslims from slaughtering them.

    What was the next British move?

    They rounded up the Jewish survivors of the massacre and exiled them out of Hebron, ostnsibly for their own protection.

    During WWII when Britain was fighting for it’s survival, Jewish “Palestinian” pilots helped defend Britain.
    In 1948, during the ware wages by seven Muslim Arab nations against Israel, the “Arab Legion”, supplied and officered by the British, was instrumental in the Jordanian illegal capture of the old city of Jerusalem and the exile of it’s Jewish inhabitants.

    At the same time, the Egyptian Air Force was freshly supplied by Britain with brand new aircraft, and seconded RAF pilots flew combat missions against the fledgling Israeli state.

    What a typical British “thank you” to people who fought for Britain in the “Battle on Britain”, the North African Desert and Europe.

  18. I bet you no British policemen were making any inquiries at the mosques and madrassahs as to where they got their copies of Mein Koran and Mein Hadith, the standard Islamic manuals as against whom they wish to commit genocide and how they intend to mutilate and kill their victims, or to whom they dispensed copies of the Islamic genocidal filth.

    • The British government’s response, or should I say embrace, of the Islamist threat has been a ringing endorsement to all those who would consider violence as a means to political ends. Islamists threaten violence for any perceived offence against them. Ethnic Brits make no such threat. Islamists are treated with kid gloves and have all their demands and more met. Ethnic Brits are treated with scorn and get nothing.

      So how should we carry ourselves, then, and what is our strategy?

  19. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS INTRUSION?

    UK politicians need to get to the bottom of it.

    Satire is a long-standing British tradition. Whoever asked for this witch-hunt should be sacked!

    • Same people as are/were orchestrating the media-celebrity witch hunts which acted as a smokescreen to deflect attention from/bury the news of the first national official inquiry into the muslim paedophile rape gangs. Unless I’m mistaken, the prosecutions were organised from the CPS North-west region, based in Manchester. Now, who’s in charge of that setup? Or who was in charge ate the time? Look it up!!!

  21. (French article translated)
    http://www.lesoir.be/790921/article/actualite/belgique/2015-02-11/moitie-des-musulmans-belges-fondamentalistes-infographie

    Half of Belgian Muslims fundamentalists? (infographic)

    According to the results of a study by the Berlin Social Science Center, 70% of Belgian Muslims consider religious rules more important than the law.
    The Berlin Social Science Center has polled 9,000 Muslims and Christians from 6 EU countries (Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, France, Sweden, Austria). 1,200 people, mainly of Turkish and Moroccan origin, who consider themselves Muslims, were interviewed on our soil (Belgium).
    The study, published by the Journal of Ethnic and Migration Studies and picked up by the Flemish daily De Morgen, shows that half of Belgian Musilms can be considered fundamentalists. To arrive at this conclusion, they were given three statements and had to answer yes or no:
    – Muslims have to return to the roots of their faith.
    – There is only one interpretation of the Qur’an and every Muslim must abide by it.
    – Religious rules are more important than the Law.
    (The last paragraph of the article says that 52.5% have said yes to all three statements, making them fundamentalists. Only Austria has a higher percentage, although the differences between all 6 countries are insignificant. The article has an infographic with the three statements right above the graph. You can click on each statement and see the results below. The order of the countries is: Belgium, France, Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Sweden.)

    Or in English here:
    http://www.wzb.eu/en/press-release/islamic-fundamentalism-is-widely-spread

    • Thanks for those links.

      Very telling.

      I have bookmarked them, but I have also opened them and made complete copies of the stories, so that if the links break in future I have a copy safely stashed away, to be shared with anyone who starts yattering about “tiny minority of extremists”.

  22. As a Brit living abroad since 2009, I just can’t believe what is happening to the UK. Words fail me.

  23. NEWSFLASH: 3 Moslem students were shot in the head in Chapel Hill… by an Infidel. PJMedia already has the Infidel’s background, a guy named Hicks, is that of a leftist. A big irony here is that UNC is Spencer’s alma mater.

  24. this is the result of not having a 2nd amendment. do you think the politicians would push this garbage on the folks if they feared them. when the people fear the government more than the government fears the people look for more of this oppression

  25. My God it looks aGestapo best days of glory,where is the freedom to buy what we want to ?the muslims
    want to finish with the democratia and free speaking and our goverments are helping them.

    • To be honest I think it looks more like the Keystone Cops rather than the Gestapo at the moment (famous last words).

  26. I have been practically a lone voice for years speaking about the institutional corruption in the UK police…..though now it seems others are catching up.

    They should be re-named the Stasi. Or the UK Waffen SS.

  28. Islam will overwhelm Christendom unless Christians recognize the demographic realities, begin reproducing again, and share the gospel with Muslims.

  29. Islam will overwhelm Christendom unless Christians recognize the demographic realities, begin reproducing again, and share the gospel with Muslims.

    • I’m sad to say that would have been a good plan 25 years ago, it’s now way too late.

    • Sorry to say guys, but in New York City we would have just told those cops to just go F**k themselves. And youtubed it to boot

  30. Now that Bill Maher has made critical comments about Islam the British authorities will want a list of any Brits watching his show via the internet.

  31. The police in Great Britain should be instructed to get the names of any person going to a Mosque, PARTICULARLY to Mosques that have instructed, funded, and produced savages…A.S.A.P.

  33. Europe has been supporting muslims at the expense of Israel for years. It just comes natural to them so that when the threat actually hits their own countries they do not seem to know what to do about it. Wouldn’t if be funny if Israel ended up being a safer place to live in then any country in Western Europe.

    • When Hamas start to lob rockets into London then you might have a point; until then please try to think like an adult!

      • Israel is a very safe place to live in, 99% of rockets do no harm at all, they either don’t explode or land in a desolate area. For the last few years, every western country had jihad perpetrated against it, and Israel is no exception. In contrast to spineless European countries that promote Islam, Israel is the only nation that has no regards for political corectness and sees Islam for what it is. Israel also has the best army in the world, a million strong with the best weapons and soldiers on the planet. In contrast US has less than 100k soldiers, for a nation of 360 million people. Who would you rather have to defend you and your family: US army or the IDF? With my eyes closed I would choose the IDF.

        • I support Israel 100%, Lioness. In fact, I have a Tshirt that says ”wherever Israel stands, I stand”, and I wear it often.

          However, I don’t understand why Israel doesn’t round up every single muslim and sling them over into gaza – Israel and the Israelis would be a damn sight safer.

          They’ve got the name, might as well have the game, and extract something positive for Israel’s safety.

        • “US has less than 100k soldiers”

          Nope. The US military has 1.4 million active duty personnel and an additional 400,000 reservists.

  35. I’m starting to worry about the10 year collection of MAD magazine I have stored in the basement.

  36. Awesome photo Robert!
    I can picture the Muslims taking offense at that image! You don’t cower to these fascists, I wish more people could be as strong as you

  37. I hope readers in any of the police authorities mentioned will complain to those authorities as I am just doing in relation to Dyfyd Powys. One question is whether the orders to investigate came from the police forces themselves or on the instructions of one of the Police Commissioners – essentially political appointments but police overlords.

    • I hope they Tippy Toed down to the Islamic Book Shop and got a list of all these buying Korans after they raided the Newsagent ? 🙂

  39. I find myself wondering if those police authority ‘areas’ have also been covering up muslim paedophile sex slave gangs.

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