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UK: Muslim rape gangs could have abused 1,000,000 children; authorities kept silent for fear of being called “racist”

Feb 12, 2015 2:34 pm By Robert Spencer

Muslimrapegang“Talking about her concerns of corruption within the police force she pointed out the IPCC started their investigation within a month they had suspended 14 police officers.” The police officers are just fall guys. They’re not responsible for the political culture that made authorities cower in fear of being smeared with charges of “racism” and “Islamophobia” for doing anything about these predators. In Rotherham, British officials “described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought as racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so.”

If the British authorities really want to root out this problem, they need to prosecute Nick Lowles and Fiyaz Mughal and other responsible for the stigmatization of scrutiny of the Muslim community, and not content themselves with prosecuting some hapless cops.

“Child sex abuse gangs could have assaulted ONE MILLION youngsters in the UK,” by Lucy Thornton, Mirror, February 5, 2015 (thanks to Marc):

There could be up to a million victims of child sexual exploitation in the UK, it is feared.

Rotherham’s Labour MP Sarah Champion describes it as a “national disaster” and is demanding a taskforce to fight the “horror.”

In an exclusive interview with the Daily Mirror the shaken MP has told how she ‘nearly lost her mind’ after victims turned to her for help – unable to trust the police or local council.

She is currently getting an average of 10 victims a week coming to her for help.

Fighting back tears she told how she feared having a nervous breakdown worried about failing the “amazing women” and her horror after finding out a manual for grooming existed for paedophiles.

The MP was speaking after the Government announced they were taking over Rotherham Council for a “fresh start” and sending five commissioners to run the troubled authority.

Inspectors were called in after the Jay Report last August revealed the borough had let down 1,400 victims of child sexual exploitation.

“The day after the first report broke the victims started coming to me. They couldn’t go to the police, they couldn’t go to the council. So who do you go to?

“For the first three weeks I generally thought I was losing my mind. I nearly lost my mind because of the level of depravity and horror.

“Listening to what these, now women, had gone through and how they were just left discarded, to flounder on their own.

“It was utterly mind-blowing and then the problem I had was that I was getting new cases coming to me, ones that hadn’t been reported which they wanted me to report. But I didn’t know who I could trust in the police to report it.

“There was this parallel universe going on and it is mindblowing.

“I generally thought I was getting close to having a nervous breakdown because I couldn’t process these two worlds going on and that anybody in a professional capacity would not have acted about what was going on. It’s obscene.”

Talking about her concerns of corruption within the police force she pointed out the IPCC started their investigation within a month they had suspended 14 police officers.

And she said one senior police officer told her they didn’t know why she was so surprised, telling Sarah: ‘Paedophiles become teachers and people that prey on the vulnerable go into the police.”

Talking of the cases she has encountered, she told of one horrific case when a girl from Rotherham was traced to a terraced street in Blackpool by youth worker Jane Senior who she employs.

“She knew where the girl was because of the queue of men down the street and up the stairs,” The MP said.

She said she turned to the Government five months ago to ask for emergency funding for her town’s victims to help the rebuild their lives.

“I went to see David Cameron this week and he said he would look into it.

“It feels like the Government is leaving Rotherham to die. It feels like we’re not on their doorstep so it doesn’t matter.”…

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  1. FarmerMike says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    @Bettina & Others—The Rotherham rape gangs are totally repulsive & uncivilized. If we can’t count on gov’t support, whether in the UK or the US, at this point, I’m turning to the churches. Here is a letter I have just sent to my local New Thought Unity Church in Cincinnati. –FarmerMike
    Pastor Michael Brooks–
    We’ve moved 50 miles out of town, and miss our occasional visits to New Thought Unity. But we’ve been reading a lot more.
    One of the subjects we’ve been reading most about is Islam, because of the on-going flood of worldwide fundamentalist Islamic attacks & beheadings, which–we’ve discovered– are actually prescribed in the Koran.
    And we’ve come to the conclusion that there must be a lot more awakening of the American public as to the true writings & intentions of the Koran. Would also help if there were some more awakening among Muslims, because many seem to be in denial. And a few seem to be ready to leave Islam, but feel threatened if they do so.
    So, we want to join with others to form a multi-religion/ideology conference to examine various religions & ideologies–indigenous as well as established institutional–as to their acceptability to contemporary society, in terms of civility, or not. My readng of the Koran leads me to understand that anyone who does not believe in Allah is to have his or her head cut off. Which is something which I –you can understand– am opposed to.
    I offer here some samplings of the 109 verses of “open-ended” [i.e., “directives” of] violence in the Koran: (You can find all 109 on http://www.TheReligionofPeace.com.)
    Quran (4:76) -“Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”
    Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”
    Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-” This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad” doesn’t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
    Quran (4:104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
    Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”
    Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
    Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.”
    Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah” Some translations interpret “fitna” as “persecution”, but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there – just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad’s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah”, meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that “Allah must have no rivals.”
    Quran (8:57) – “If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.”
    Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”
    Perhaps you can see that the ISIS fighters, & other fundamentalist Islamists, are simply carrying out the clearly prescribed directives of the Koran.
    I hope you are open to some discussion of this idea, as I think we are in the very late stages of a major cultural crisis, and must be up & about dialoging & reading & educating ourselves & others. If we don’t raise general awareness & action, this growing crisis will simply become a bloody Second Amendment problem, with questionable outcome. Our first choice should be, I believe, to exercise our First Amendment rights, vigorously.
    To put it bluntly, we cannot continue to insanely treat violent Islamist jihadism like an involuntary fart in the elevator & say nothing about it. We must recognize that this violence is deeply rooted in the prescriptive directives of the Koran, as well as being part of Islam’s centuries-long historic record. And this fact must be recognized by others–by Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, & others–all must be made aware of this, & be ready to discuss this plain fact, civilly & politely.
    There are many relevant books & websites on this matter. Here’s a few I recommend:
    http://www.jihadwatch.org
    http://www.TheReligionofPeace.org
    Video of “Stealth Jihad,” by David Wood
    “Arab Winter Comes to America: The Truth About the War We’re In,” by Robert Spencer
    “Legacy of Stealth Jihad,” ed. by Andrew Bostom
    “Eurabia: the Euro-Arab Axis,” by Bat ye’or
    “A God Who Hates,” by Wafa Sultan, an ex-Muslim from Syria

    I look forward to further discussions, as soon as you have the time.
    All the best,
    FarmerMike

    • Alissa says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm

      Drag them through the streets to #10 Downing and then hang them.

      • Alissa says

        Feb 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm

        If this doesn’t provoke action among the masses NOTHING will.

        • Liatris Spicata says

          Feb 12, 2015 at 5:37 pm

          Sadly, Alissa, I suspect for the most part, people will not be stiired to action. After all, these were mostly girls “from the wrong side of the railroad tracks”.

          I don’t think Brits of even 50 years ago could imagine their once glorious nation would sink so low, so quickly. And Americans ignore the British example at their peril.

          Of course, as the enlightened soul I take you to be, you realize that this has nothing whatsover to do with the misogynistic, predatory “relgion” that essentially all the perps adhere to.

      • FarmerMike says

        Feb 12, 2015 at 6:54 pm

        Justin, the questions get REALLY complicated when you begin to consider that 9/11 was probably an “inside job.” See the 9/llTruth group online. There’s thousands of architects & engineers who support this view. Simply watching how Bldg #7 fell straight down like an elevator, makes you begin to believe it was demolished with pre-set explosives. There’s a lot more supporting.evidence, too.
        Makes you wonder who did it, and why….
        But there is no doubt that the event certainly encouraged other attacks on the West by Muslims. Hmmmm….
        — FarmerMike

      • Wellington says

        Feb 12, 2015 at 8:16 pm

        FarmerMike: You’re a loon. To assert, as you have, that “9/11 was probably an ‘inside job'” makes a mockery of the truth. As for your contention that “thousands of architects & engineers….support this view,” oh yeah, name just fifty.

        I don’t think you have any understanding of how your warped view of reality hurts the anti-jihad cause. Please just go away, will ya’? Let me put it another way, if I were a hater of this website, Jihad Watch, I would relish you posting here regularly. Yes, you’re that awful.

      • Beagle says

        Feb 12, 2015 at 9:59 pm

        FarmerMike,

        Was the 1993 truck bombing of the WTC an inside job?

      • Boston Tea Party says

        Feb 12, 2015 at 11:37 pm

        @FarmerMike,

        As Wellington said, you’re not going to find much sympathy here for your pro-jihad 9/11 truther conspiracy theories. It’s Western loons like you who actively aid the jihad by claiming that Muslims couldn’t have carried out the WTC attacks, and it must have been the US government and the Jews who did it. That’s the same lie that every jihadist believes. Maybe you’d be more comfortable on some leftist, pro-jihad forum.

  2. cs says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    I don’t believe that is the number. But surely there are much more than 10000.
    And still she is not addressing the issue.
    Those who perpetrated, what is the motivation? Which group? Why she did not say that?

    • marc says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 4:08 pm

      I think its far more than 10000, this has been going on for 30 years, I have seen it first hand, in the local paki takeaways, groups of kids with nothing better to do being allowed to hang out, starts with free food for the young girls who just had a row with their mums, offered somewhere to stay that evening, girls never felt wanted before, for an iphone and some drugs, she’ll do anything, the poor 14 year old doesn’t even know what’s happened to her, and now there is no way out when she realises.
      In Germany and Holland it’s the turks doing the same thing, 10s of thousands of those takeaways destroying young lives every year. the local infidels don’t notice, the muslim community know what’s going on, but will never say.

      • cs says

        Feb 12, 2015 at 5:38 pm

        They prey on the weak.

        • marc says

          Feb 12, 2015 at 7:12 pm

          sanctioned by scripture, protected by islam and political correctness, the poor girls didn’t have a chance.

  3. Johnny Pallyswine says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    The UK WASP will no doubt blame this on Israel’s refusal to surrender the West Bank it gained when Jordan attacked on June 05 1967

    • pumbar says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 5:00 pm

      Doubt it, we’re too busy worshiping satan and eating puppy dogs and kittens. Not to mention persecuting Jews and causing the end of the world through our New World Order regime.

      • Mirren10 says

        Feb 15, 2015 at 6:45 am

        🙂

  4. mortimer says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    Rape In Pakistan (from “The Wrath of Allah”)
    “Unfortunately, since Pakistan has reverted to an Islamic state, rape against women has increased dramatically. Of course, official figures would say the opposite as, under Shariah, it is almost impossible to prove that rape has taken place. Rape is often used as revenge against a woman’s husband, father, brother or son. When it is used against a political opponent it is called “power rape”. The rapists often cut off the noses of their victims to show that they are “fallen women.”

    “Rape can only be proven if there are four adult male witnesses. (A female’s testimony is not even taken as half-value in the case of capital crimes.) If the case is unproven, the woman can be charged with fornication which carries the death penalty. There are thousands of women in jail in Pakistan charged with zina. Even if the crime is not pursued, relatives may expect the woman to commit suicide, preferably by burning herself. Alternatively the husband may divorce her or, if he has to pay back too much dowry, have her committed to a lunatic asylum. “Human Rights Watch estimates that Pakistani police abuse 70 per cent of the women in their custody, though no officer has ever been penalized.”

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri said:
    The Apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, send down the Qur’anic verse: “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hand possess.”[Surah 4:24] …Sunan Abu Dawud, Book V, Chapter 711, Number 2150

  5. mortimer says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Rape? Normative, authentic, canonical Islam hallowed in Islamic tradition and history!

    Rape of a non-Muslim woman in Australia:
    A 20 year-old Sydney woman was raped 25 times by a gang of 14 Muslim youths in August 2000. They called her an “Aussie pig” and “Christian shit” and hosed her down. Non-Muslim women are considered “fair game” by some Muslim men. As we saw Prophet Muhammad did not try to stop his men using their non-Muslim captives.

    Prophet Muhammad promises women to his warriors
    “You see, God will soon make you inherit their land, their treasures and make you sleep with their women” (Lit: make their women’s beds for you).
    These plain, disgraceful words are recorded by Ibn Hisham on page 182 Vol. II, of his famous book, “Al Rod Al Anf”, which all researchers regard as a reliable reference.

    History?
    When Tarek ibn Ziyad’s forces landed at Gibraltar on the Spanish coast, he famously offered incentives to his warriors, among them mass looting of property and the rape and sexual enslavement of European women. Islamic historian Al Maggari PROUDLY gives part of Ziyad’s speech as follows: “You have heard that in this country there are a large number of ravishingly beautiful Greek maidens, their graceful forms are draped in sumptuous gowns on which gleam pearls, coral, and purest gold, and they live in the palaces of royal kings.”*

    RAPE! A PROUD Islamic tradition! Why? Mohammed did it! His favorite sex slave was a white Christian. All Muslim men MUST imitate Mohammed!

    • FarmerMike says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 6:36 pm

      These outrageous, long-term, free-ranging rape gangs are totally repulsive to us Westerners, tho they are apparently shrugged-off as normal behavior within Muslim communities. The urge to kill these criminals naturally wells up in us. And, yes, we know that others will take their places, unless we change the social & ideological breeding grounds that routinely produce such predators. Perhaps this is a moment–when we are over-flowing with rage– to harvest some of that energy, & re-channel it into awakening some of our “sleeping” neighbors.
      Specifically, I’m thinking of approaching the churches in our neighborhoods, and taking along a copy of the 109 verses on violence in “The Religion of Peace on Violence.” That’s what I did today. Three church doors I knocked on, got to speak w/ a Catholic priest for an hour or more, & hand him some reprints, show him some books. He showed mild interest in some reprints.
      He did not yawn in my face, but did not encourage having an “Anti-Jihad Conference” at his church. So, I came home & drafted a letter to the New Thought Unity Church in Cincinnati. (See it posted somewhere above.)
      Also ordered a few of Robert Spencer’s, & other’s, books from Amazon.
      What are others doing? What actions are you taking, or planning?
      –FarmerMike

      • Mirren10 says

        Feb 13, 2015 at 11:30 am

        ”These outrageous, long-term, free-ranging rape gangs are totally repulsive to us Westerners, tho they are apparently shrugged-off as normal behavior within Muslim communities. ”

        No, no, no ! You’ve got that **all** wrong. The muslim rape gangs are actually funded, planned, and carried out by indigenous British citizens, and the Joooos !

        In fact, I **know** it’s an ”inside job”, no ‘probably’ about it ! Mumbai was an ”inside job”, so was Bali, Madrid, 7/7, Beslan, the journalists ‘murdered’ by ISIS actually **beheaded themselves**, you fool !

  6. mortimer says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    PORNISTANIS?
    But of course…

    Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for “horse sex” since 2004, “donkey sex” since 2007, “rape pictures” between 2004 and 2009, “rape sex” since 2004, “child sex” between 2004 and 2007 and since 2009, “animal sex” since 2004 and “dog sex” since 2005, according to Google Trends and Google Insights, features of Google that generate data based on popular search terms.

    The country also is tops — or has been No. 1 — in searches for “sex,” “camel sex,” “rape video,” “child sex video” and some other searches that can’t be printed here.

    • Semeu says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 11:07 pm

      Yo, you failed to mention that the videos and photos are produced in non moslems countries

      • Western Canadian says

        Feb 12, 2015 at 11:46 pm

        And views mostly in islamic countries.

  7. Joe Shmo says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    “and her horror after finding out a manual for grooming existed for paedophiles.”

    You know what? I would love to see that manual and see it released for wider society to read. I wonder if it will be possible to get a hold of it. Something to think about.

    • FarmerMike says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 6:42 pm

      You’re right, Joe. That would be very interesting. –FarmerMike

  8. Howard says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    Why doesn’t the article mention “Muslim” or “Islam” anywhere in it?

  9. sound awake says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    “yeah…but…but…Catholic Priests…see…same thing!”

    except abusing choir boys isnt in the text, so that doesnt quite make it the same does it…it just makes them perverts…theyre FAILED CHRISTIANS because of what they did…pedophile muslims are doing WHAT IT SAYS IS OK IN THE TEXTS-THATS THE DIFFERENCE-THEYRE NOT FAILED MUSLIMS_THEYRE JUST MUSLIMS

    SEE?

  10. Jay Boo says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    CODE WORDS

    When the Pimp ‘Prophet’ of Islam promised 72 nine year old virgins in the afterlife
    that was his code to endorse Child sex abuse gangs for all Muslims in this life.

    • FarmerMike says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 7:01 pm

      Don’t forget the “12 pre-pubescent boys.”

  11. Angemon says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    The MP was speaking after the Government announced they were taking over Rotherham Council for a “fresh start” and sending five commissioners to run the troubled authority.

    I, for one, don’t want a “fresh start”. At worse, I want a “deal-with-the-rape-gangs-problem-now-and-with-the-people-who-didn’t-act-for-fear-of-losing-votes-or-being-called-racist-later-because-they’re-not-getting-off-the-hook start”

    • Mirren10 says

      Feb 13, 2015 at 11:36 am

      ”I, for one, don’t want a “fresh start”. At worse, I want a “deal-with-the-rape-gangs-problem-now-and-with-the-people-who-didn’t-act-for-fear-of-losing-votes-or-being-called-racist-later-because-they’re-not-getting-off-the-hook start””

      Exactly, Angemon.

      The government’s ‘fresh start’ will be a carefully orchestrated exercise in sweeping under the carpet, and protection of all complicit bastards involved.

  12. jay says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    Yet it is only the BBC who mentions the race thing, the article above not a peep. This is the West’s and communism’s lasting legacy it’s leaving behind. We’re not dying with dignity, that’s for sure.

  13. Clare says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    When there is a vacuum, the socialists fill it with dependance on government. Think dissolution of the family and the wane of Christian morals and the Church …oh, yeah, you Marxists can do your eye-roll now…. Fathers, brothers, uncles and grandfathers are not there to protect their children. Yes, some single mothers can and even they are hard pressed but “The State” and it’s social services cannot protect your children.

  14. Georg says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    Well, they feared right– *%$(#)@ RACIST PIECES OF !&^#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Treat the English like that… There’s going to be HELL to pay.

    You’re all on our —- LIST. Endanger our children like that….

  15. Joseph says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    Those guys look so friendly. Why doesn’t Obama invite them over for a cup of coffee?

  16. Bezelel says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    The freepress in the UK must not be covering these crimes. The US is not much better. This story should be front page. This should be seen as a sign that society is degenerating that is unless you’re muslim, then it’s a sign of progress.

  17. alyn21 says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    The politicians responsible for letting these scumbags into your country should be arrested and put on trial.
    Tony Blair and David Cameron and Nick Clegg are traitors to the British nation and should be subjected to capital punishment.: yes boys and girls of Britain we are talking about the death penalty.
    The only politician who makes any sense in your country is Paul Weston. If I was English that is who I would be voting for. 1million children damaged by rape is a holocaust. British people have you had enough yet??

  18. Richie says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    How can the citizens in England tolerate this?????

    • Paul 2 says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 9:31 pm

      It’s the British elite; I doubt it’s the average Brit. I think many of the British elite are infected with severe anti-semitism, but I don’t know that this can explain the madness going on over there. But it seems they are happy to replace Jews with Muslims. Pure insanity. It seems that the Jews and the Jewish state, who gave us Einstein, Jonas Salk, and countless other scientists, playwrights, musicians, artists, are viewed as scum by the British elite, while they show unlimited deference toward the most repulsive of Muslim fanatics. Inexplicable.

  19. TheBuffster says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    The weakness, blindness, cowardice and corruption that this whole rape-gang situation reveals about those charged with defending rights is beyond despicable. Even if it was one single case covered up to spare officials with charges of bigotry and threats to their safety, those responsible for the cover-up would deserve public condemnation. People are hired for law enforcement for the purpose of doing a dangerous job. That job requires courage, a willingness to put oneself at risk to get the job done, and incorruptibility. And I’m not just talking about police, but everyone who has power over the police, everyone who makes the rules and decisions affecting the protection of our rights and liberties and who betrays that responsibility.

    Anyone who wilfully turns his head away from doing the job he was hired for deserves our contempt and does not deserve to serve in such a crucial profession to the upholding of civilization.

    Fourteen hundred girls is appalling enough. A possible one-million?

    I’ll tell you what – I don’t trust the media or any politician to be any more careful or honest than the law enforcement of Rotherham. Up to one million victims – I won’t say it’s impossible over a long enough time frame. But I want to know what the evidence is that supports the “could be up to one million” assertion.

    But as I said, 1,400 victims sent packing by law enforcement is way more than enough to damn every coward and corrupt official involved.

  20. katnis says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    I am so honestly disgusted by the things I see on this site that I don’t know if I can continue visiting JW. I feel like I am witnessing the destruction of the human soul. It’s upsetting. Who would ever rape? Who would rape a child? Who would ever support or condone it? I’m just sick about it.

    • Joseph says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 9:29 pm

      I know exactly how you feel. It is disgusting and depressing. However if YOU do not know the truth, then how can you tell others? This is what this site is about, TRUTH. Remember, you can’t fight if you don’t know what you are fighting against.
      I’ll be praying for you for strength and perseverance.

    • Jay Boo says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 9:43 pm

      katnis asked,
      “Who would rape a child? Who would ever support or condone it?”
      ———————–

      The answer:
      The supposed ‘Messenger’ of Allah — Muhammad

    • TheBuffster says

      Feb 13, 2015 at 12:42 am

      Katniss, maybe you need to take a break from it for a while. Don’t make yourself sick and depressed. Feed yourself something nourishing for a while, watch movies and read stories and spend time with people who remind you of how good and admirable and honest and true people can be. That’s what we’re fighting *for* after all. 🙂

  21. jewdog says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    In a recent poll in Britain, Israel is disliked more than Iran. Possibly, those polite Brits dislike Israel’s assertiveness, a country that probably would not accept having its females raped and abused with impunity. Quite impudent, those bounder Jews. Quite dhimmi-like, those Brits. Pour me another non-alcoholic pint, mate.

    • sencit says

      Feb 13, 2015 at 5:36 am

      jewdog, ignore polls which don’t explain how they managed to get that result. Where were the people who replied to it? Tower Hamlets?
      Just don’t trust these so-called polls – ever! Israel is the most civilized nation in the world.

  22. FarmerMike says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @Justin & Wellington– The focus of JihadWatch is too important to take the time necessary to show you the highly plausible reasons for the “inside job” estimation of who, in general, carried out the 9/11 attack. Just go on over to the 9/11Truth site, and you will see plenty of very well-presented & well-supported evidence. True, there were 19 Muslims on board, all willing suicide bombers, but they alone did not MAKE it happen. Too many serendipitous circumstances “allowed it to happen.” If you examine the whole range of evidence, you will see that the operation was most likely a “black flag” operation. And Wellington, insults are unnecessary. Just go over & examine the evidence at the 9/11AE site. Meanwhile, let’s get back to the business of awakening our fellow citizens to the “stealth jihad” of the Islamists. We need not agree on the 9/11 analysis–or on global warming evidence, either–but we can still work together to awaken our fellow Americans to the very real & imminent dangers of Islamic Jihad.
    –FarmerMike

    • Jay Boo says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 9:37 pm

      @FarmerMike
      You got more than a few screws loose dude
      You post a couple of under the radar seeming comments then try to slide this same curve ball back in again.

      Also there is no need to repeat “FarmerMike” after your comment because it gives the impression of over self-importance unless maybe you hacked into FarmerMike’s account here and are trying to discredit. Now that would be a conspiracy theory.

      • FarmerMike says

        Feb 12, 2015 at 9:53 pm

        @JayBoo, let’s move beyond inuendo, and just try to say what’s on your mind. What “curve ball” are you talking about? And, I agree, I do not need to add “FarmerMike” at the end of my post. I have already stopped doing that.

        • Western Canadian says

          Feb 12, 2015 at 11:39 pm

          Like most people who have examined what you out of ignorance or limited intelligence call the ‘evidence’, the only possible conclusion is that the ‘truthers’ are idiots, or fools, or frauds, or agents of Islamic organizations.

          There is NO evidence to support your pathetic and ignorant drivel.

        • duh_swami says

          Feb 13, 2015 at 3:45 am

          here’s yer problem Mike…After a decade of looking at 911 from every direction, there is one piece of glaring evidence missing…Who is mister big? Who dun it if not jihadists After 14 billion words, still no culprit…Vague references to CIA, black ops etc, are not sufficient.

    • Beagle says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 10:04 pm

      FarmerMike,

      False flag, “black flag” means pirates. And no, it was not a false flag.

    • Dave says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 10:27 pm

      I’m not going to get worked up over this conspiracy shit anymore. . . .simply stated. . . .SHUT UP G O O F.
      Active Measures must be countered and it starts by silencing the “USEFUL IDIOTS”, like “pig farmer mike”.

      SI VIS PACEUM PARA BELUM
      CANADA

    • Western Canadian says

      Feb 12, 2015 at 11:55 pm

      “The focus of JihadWatch is too important to take the time ”

      Then it would also be too important for an ignorant fool like you to degrade this site by posting your pitiable drivel, so you have just admitted that you should shut up;.

      But that would be ungenerous of me.

      You should have two choices: Shut up, and/or get lost.

      • doglicka says

        Feb 13, 2015 at 6:14 am

        Fark you blokes are harsh at times. If a misguided Muslim writes on here with their rubbish most of you are switched on enough to use truth and reason to hopefully nudge them into some reality. I think farmermike deserves the same respect. You’re spraying around friendly fire.

        I don’t agree with you on 9/11 farmermike but your search for understanding and fighting against Islamic fundamentalism in general is admirable. Keep it up.

        • Mirren10 says

          Feb 13, 2015 at 12:22 pm

          ” If a misguided Muslim writes on here with their rubbish most of you are switched on enough to use truth and reason to hopefully nudge them into some reality. I think farmermike deserves the same respect. ‘

          It’s easy enough to wipe the floor with mohammedans, their apologists, and various useful idiots. One has only to present the truth of what the koran, hadith and sira say.

          For people like ‘farmer mike’ however, their love affair with conspiracy theories, no matter how ridiculous or unlikely, trumps anything else, because they love to believe they are privy to ‘truths’ the rest of us hicks are too stupid to acknowledge.

          To paraphrase Miss Austen, ‘farmer mike’ and his ilk don’t deserve the compliment of rational opposition.

    • Mirren10 says

      Feb 13, 2015 at 12:13 pm

      Oh, and Farmer mike,

      Lee Rigby’s murder was a inside job, as well ! He ran over himself, and then hacked himself to pieces, of course !

      http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=71682

      No matter what happens, anywhere in the world, there will always be some idiots eager to ‘expose’ it as an inside job, a fraud, or a hoax. Probably because they like to believe they are more perspicacious than the rest of us, and by golly, *they* aren’t going to be fooled !

  23. Dave says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    Force feed these swine with dog vomit and then ship them to the Antarctic and leave them there….leave them in their pajamas too.
    There’s no room on earth for such putrid bile.
    When a monster attacks your children YOU KILL THE MONSTER.

    SI VIS PACEUM PARA BELUM
    CANADA

  24. Dave J says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    Low life rapists like these guys are the result of two things: 1) Generations of inbreeding that produces low IQs and a high incidence of mental illness (watch “When Cousins Marry”) and 2) A violent ideology that not only gives them permission to act but encourages it as a holy duty.

    Islam is a scourge upon the Earth.

    • BC says

      Feb 13, 2015 at 12:48 am

      You left out the sexual repression in Islam. Young men and women are not allowed to socialise as they growing up, as is normal in most cultures throughout history. They are segregated so the males especially do not get near a female until they marry, unless they have access to prostitutes of course. This causes extreme sexual frustration but of course they have the prospect of the 72 virgins if they die fighting for Allah which makes suicide or death an attractive option. They are also taught that Western women are loose as they are free to move around without male supervision and often wear ‘provocative’ clothing. A kaffur female is bound for hell anyway so there is nothing wrong with using her for sex

  25. Barbb says

    Feb 12, 2015 at 11:34 pm

    When will she admit that her Labour Party is directly responsible for the massive importation of Muslims into the UK? You reap what you sow damn hypocrite.

  26. Rainman says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 1:53 am

    Like the movie ‘Casablanca’, that MP was ‘shocked, shocked’ at all of those rapes. There is no way to ‘hide’ 10s of thousands of rape victims. Everybody knew.
    And the police were in on it. There is no way 1,400 rapes can happen in a town that size without protection and participation from the police. How many of those police were muslim.
    And that country is run by a queen? This is all on her watch. There royal family is out of touch to the point of living on a different planet.
    Uranus
    Rainman…….

  27. duh_swami says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 3:51 am

    If it was my daughter, I would get a short ball bat and go hunting.

  28. Michael Copeland says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 4:33 am

    “Slavery is a part of Islam. Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam.”
    Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan , professor, imam and eminent Saudi scholar.
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6417-slavery-is-part-of-islam-muslims-speak

  29. cheesecake says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 5:22 am

    The anti-british racism of the left who don’t seem to live in the real world, and are that reliant on Muslim immigrant votes that they would destroy the culture identity and way of life and cover up gang rape by Muslim men as long as they could get the Muslim votes.. The police force are getting more like the stasi
    And would sooner go after somebody that dropped a ham slice near a mosque, than spend time stopping Muslim grooming gangs because that’s racist

    • doglicka says

      Feb 13, 2015 at 6:25 am

      Yep. It is really a hate on western civilisation in general and it pervades throughout western societies everywhere.

      Whilst multi culturalism is being lauded a virtue, Islamic terror won’t stop. This is because Muslims form voting blocs and democracy out of necessity will cater for it. It needn’t be that way ofcourse, if our politicians were more moral, ha! But they aren’t.

  30. Will says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 6:17 am

    The conspiracy theorists are like fleas. They plague you and attempt to distract you. With 1% of truth they build a world of bullshit while ignoring the patently obvious. Occam’s Razor cuts them down every time but they are too stupid to see it. However those who live for their welfare cheque, They will always believe such rubbish as they know nothing and care even less, Unfortunately many can vote. IMO only those who pay tax or have paid tax for most of their lives should be allowed to vote.

  31. FarmerMike says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 7:33 am

    @Boston Tea Party, I’m not looking for sympathy. I’m demonstrating clear thinking. I’m certainly not pro-jihad. I see Islam as a religion of hate that has captured 1.6 billion hostages, & has warped their minds & psyches. And which is promoting a “Sharia-wrapped Stealth Jihad” across our fair land. Fortunately, we have Robert Spencer & JihadWatch, to lead the way in awakening our fellow citizens to this real & growing danger. We cannot let our relatively minor differences to sabotage what this JihadWatch blog is doing. Our priority must be to stop the Islamist Sharia-Jihad.
    But, in the bigger picture, I also see that we have home-grown fascists who use “black flag” operations to fatten their bank accounts, & increase their power. Who are they? Those who want a “permanent war economy.” Once the USSR collapsed, they needed another “permanent enemy” to justify a “permanent war economy.” So, they “allowed” 19 Muslim jihadists to attack the US. Look at the evidence over at 9/11TruthAE.

    • Boston Tea Party says

      Feb 13, 2015 at 10:12 am

      Oh, I think we all understand your position. “Jihadists were not capable of pulling off 9/11 by themselves–it’s really only crazy right wingers who believe that. No, the REAL danger is George Bush and the Jews, and that’s what we should be focusing on, instead of all this Islamophobia. That’s the real problem–not Islam.”

      Whether you understand it or not, you’re actively working against what Robert Spencer is doing, in that you’re minimizing the capabilities and the threats of jihad by denying their role in 9/11, and instead pointing to the West as the REAL puppetmaster of the jihadists. The global jihad LOVES it when people like you turn the focus off of them and instead towards “right wingers” in the West.

      • FarmerMike says

        Feb 13, 2015 at 3:10 pm

        Yes, Boston Tea Party, I do NOT think 19 Muslim Jihadists could have flown those planes into the WTC. The flight trainers had little confidence in their ability to even fly a Piper Cub, much less a 747.
        For now, we’ve gotta concentrate on awakening our fellow Americans to the clear & growing danger of Islamic “Stealth Jihad,” which is presently being allowed to stroll across America, from Dearborn, Mich., to UC Davis in California. We all need to read Robert Spencer’s very clear books, like, “Arab Winter Comes to America: The Truth About the War We’re In,” an& “Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam is Subverting America without Guns or Bombs.”

        • Boston Tea Party says

          Feb 13, 2015 at 7:40 pm

          FarmerMike, maybe you’re new to this site and this subject, but why don’t you familiarize YOURSELF with what Robert Spencer has said is the truth of 9/11 :

          http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/04/27/5-truths-the-911-museum-should-tell-about-911/?singlepage=true

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 14, 2015 at 12:27 am

          Another witless “Truther”, who does not believe that Muslims are actually capable of evil. No, it must be the CIA or Mossad or bad ol’ George Bush. Good grief…

          Does he suppose that all 25,000+ Jihad terror attacks around the world were pulled off by the West needing a “permanent enemy” and making “Muslims look bad” in order to achieve that nefarious aim?

  32. peter Weber says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 10:12 am

    Special treatment for Muslims … as usual …

    Also here:

    Marcus Kaarma sentenced to 70 years

    Montana 2014: Diren Dede broke into a garage and was shot by Marcus Kaarma. Diren Dede was a Turkish man who also had a German passport. Diren Dede was not a “German exchange student”.

    Based on the English Common Law provision that one’s home is one’s “castle”, the “Castle Doctrine” is a popular law that allows for a person whose home is under attack to use force upon the attacker.

    As each state has its own Castle laws, there are a number of limitations and exclusions to the law. Generally speaking, though, the occupant:

    must believe that the intruder intends to do serious harm
    must believe that the intruder intends to commit a felony
    must not have provoked the intruder or threat of harm
    may be protecting himself or any other within the residence

    One of the most prevalent is the Stand Your Ground clause, which states that a homeowner who is under perceived threat of attack has no obligation to try to escape his or her attacker before resorting to deadly force.

    Montana law:

    45-3-103. Use of force in defense of occupied structure.
    (1) A person is justified in the use of force or threat to use force against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that the use of force is necessary to prevent or terminate the other person’s unlawful entry into or attack upon an occupied structure.
    (2) A person justified in the use of force pursuant to subsection (1) is justified in the use of force likely to cause death or serious bodily harm only if:
    (a) the entry is made or attempted and the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent an assault upon the person or another then in the occupied structure; or
    (b) the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony in the occupied structure.

    An open garage door is no more temptation for theft, than a woman is temptation for rape.

    Let us take a look on cases from the past:

    Fredenberg case:

    Dan Fredenberg occurred inside the garage of Brice Harper. Harper had the right to fetch his gun from his bedroom, confront Mr. Fredenberg in the garage and, fearing for his safety, shoot him.

    Ed Corrigan, the county attorney:

    http://ravallirepublic.com/pdf_326cb5e1-516c-55c6-bbd6-0e79032957cf.html

    Under the common law you can act in reasonable self-defense or even “reasonable mistaken self-defense (Courvoisier v. Raymond, 23 Colo. 113, 1896).

    If you have a reasonable doubt on the question if self defense was justified in the use of deadly force, you should find not guilty.

    Rodney Peairs case

    Rodney Peairs shot a Japanese exchange student. Peairs was acquitted in state court.

    The student mistook the home of Rodney Peairs for the address where a party was being held.
    http://habueld.hubpages.com/hub/Stand-Your-Ground-The-Case-of-Yoshi-Hattori

    Dede Diren wasn’t some innocent kid in the wrong place at the wrong time like the Japanese kid who accidentally went to the wrong address. He was a burglar!

    How is it possible that Kaarma gets 70 years? The case illustrates how politics shape the court.

    German Consulate “Wants Justice” for Diren Dede’s Death

    http://www.abcfoxmontana.com/story/25396522/german-consulate-wants-justice-for-diren-dedes-death

    The German Consulate would not care if a German non Muslim would have been shot. If an American Shiite Muslim was shot as an intruder in a Sunni Saudi Arabian home, would Saudi Arabia or this Administration care?

    Both US and international media are portrayed Diren Dede as a saint, despite strong evidence he was a serial burglar.

    By the way: the “German” was buried in Turkey …

    Diren Dede was a Muslim. Diren Dede was not a “German exchange student. If he would have been “Hans Müller”, Kaarma would face no charges. There was pressure from Germany and also Turkey.

    How dare this fire fighter think that he has the right to protect his life, his family’s life, his home or his property from an intruder in today’s America?

    http://www.kfbb.com/story/28100079/kaarma-sentenced-to-70-years

  33. Mirren10 says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    ”Rotherham’s Labour MP Sarah Champion describes it as a “national disaster” and is demanding a taskforce to fight the “horror.”

    She *may* be sincere, but she should realise it was the **Labour Party** under blair who **deliberately** opened the floodgates to mohammedan immigration in order to ”rub the right’s nose in diversity”.

    Now, there’s a *true* conspiracy, Farmer Mike !

    • FarmerMike says

      Feb 13, 2015 at 3:27 pm

      Mirren10, the UK, Europe & the US are all struggling to keep their economies “growing,” & so they open their borders to cheap labor: Muslims in the UK & Europe, and Latin Americans in the US. A fallacy in this strategy is that an economy can’t keep on growing infinitely on a finite planet. And we’re already maxed out, resource-wise, & population-wise, as a planet. Some say we right now need 2 or 3 more planet Earths, one more to mine for resources, the other 2 to thrown our trash on. Economists like your very own Richard Douthwaite, who now lives on Ireland’s west coast, wrote a very fine, easy to understand, book called: “The Growth Illusion: How economic growth has enriched the few, impoverished the many & endangered the planet.” IMHO, we need a popular conspiracy to bring his ideas into our economy & society. Meanwhile, I think we need to build that popular conspiracy by stopping the Sharia Jihad, in the UK, Europe & the US.

      • Mirren10 says

        Feb 13, 2015 at 5:42 pm

        ‘Mirren10, the UK, Europe & the US are all struggling to keep their economies “growing,” & so they open their borders to cheap labor: Muslims in the UK & Europe, and Latin Americans in the US.’

        This very silly remark shows how little interested you are in *facts*.

        I have no knowledge of how many Latin Americans are employed in the US, but in the UK, 50% of mohammedan males are on benefits, and 75% of the females. Not much ‘cheap labour’ there. In fact, the majority of ‘cheap labour is provided by Eastern European immigrants, mainly Polish.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 14, 2015 at 12:40 am

          *Very* true, Mirren—Muslims are not growing the economy in Britain and most of Europe at all—instead, they are *costing* good Infidels a fortune.

        • FarmerMike says

          Feb 14, 2015 at 10:30 am

          @gravenimage, No, I certainly do not at all suppose that 25,000+ Islamic terror attacks around the world were pulled off by US gov’t agencies needing to create a “permanent enemy” in order to justify a “permanent war economy.” It was just highly probable it would happen. And it did. Just as a huge forest fire can easily be deliberately set by one malicious act, so I see the 9/11 attack as an inside job that has triggered a global jihad. Remember how quickly– according to the news items–Muslims around the world were dancing in the streets when they heard the news of the 9/11 attacks? It was instantaneous. Well, follow that up by open-mindedly looking at the mountain of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, collected over at AE911Truth. Robert Spencer & JihadWatch are quite properly drawing attention to the deep roots, broad plains & foothills of the world-wide Islamic Jihad threatt to America & Europe. He is probably not blind to the mountain of evidence that the attack was in fact orchestrated by highly-placed insiders. I would guess that he chose to focus on the on-going Islamic Jihad evidence as the more urgent aspect to focus on, because of the tendency of most Americans to have single thought, “bumper sticker” minds. But JihadWatch bloggers have larger minds, & greater intellectual courage. And are not afraid to look at the evidence at AE911Truth. Still, we must do first things first: Let’s first awaken our fellow Americans to the clear & growing danger of Islamic Stealth Jihad.
          Mirren10, & Boston Tea Party, as far as welcoming in immigrants who end up on welfare, we know welfare can be cut off. These immigrants also flood the labor market, & depress wages by creating more competition among workers. The managers of the politics & economy in the UK, Europe & the US are aware of that. As we all know, they are not looking out for the general benefit of society at large. Look at how they are managing the reprehensible rape gangs in Rotherham. In the US, Obama seems to be reading from a “permanent war economy” script, and so immigrants can become “cannon fodder.”

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 14, 2015 at 4:34 pm

          Farmer Mike wrote:

          @gravenimage, No, I certainly do not at all suppose that 25,000+ Islamic terror attacks around the world were pulled off by US gov’t agencies needing to create a “permanent enemy” in order to justify a “permanent war economy.” It was just highly probable it would happen. And it did.
          ………………………………………

          Almost no one considered 9/11 “highly probable” pre-9/11. And why would they? With the exception of beleaguered Israel, there had been very few Jihad terror attacks in the West at this point—many Americans were unfamiliar with the previous attack on the WTC. Virtually all of the attacks on the West have been *post* 9/11.

          Many Westerners—especially Europeans—now consider Jihad terror attacks a long-standing ‘part of the landscape’, but this is actually quite a recent phenomenon. Jihad is not new, of course—anything but—but this modern resurgence *is*.

          And even now, there has been *nothing* on the scale of 9/11. 9/11 is considered the “gold standard” of Jihad terror attacks. Pretending this is now run of the mill is ahistoric.

          More:

          Just as a huge forest fire can easily be deliberately set by one malicious act, so I see the 9/11 attack as an inside job that has triggered a global jihad.
          ………………………………………

          The global JIhad was already growing—especially in the form of the ‘Hijira’ of mass Muslim immigration into the West—especially Europe.

          More:

          Remember how quickly– according to the news items–Muslims around the world were dancing in the streets when they heard the news of the 9/11 attacks? It was instantaneous. Well, follow that up by open-mindedly looking at the mountain of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, collected over at AE911Truth. Robert Spencer & JihadWatch are quite properly drawing attention to the deep roots, broad plains & foothills of the world-wide Islamic Jihad threatt to America & Europe.
          ………………………………………

          The celebration among Muslims was instantaneous because they had *always* dreamed of conquering “Rome”, that is, the West—they just hadn’t considered such baleful dreams possible in recent centuries, especially since the break up of the last Caliphate.

          More:

          He is probably not blind to the mountain of evidence that the attack was in fact orchestrated by highly-placed insiders. I would guess that he chose to focus on the on-going Islamic Jihad evidence as the more urgent aspect to focus on, because of the tendency of most Americans to have single thought, “bumper sticker” minds.
          ………………………………………

          The idea that Robert Spencer—of all people!—is dumbing things down because he considers Americans too stupid to handle the truth is ludicrous. And if this *were* the case, he wouldn’t bother to warn about the Jihad threat at all.

          The fact is that Robert Spencer has rightly dismissed the Truther claim that Jihad terror is actually perpetrated by the US or Israel or the Masons or the Illuminati many times—whether the claim is that they pull it off independently or somehow trick Muslims into doing the dirty work for them.

          This is based on the false idea that it is only the West that can be truly culpable—everyone else is a victim of evil Western machinations, or at the very least a dupe.

          You hear this all the time from apologists—the most recent is that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam, and is actually a “Zionist plot”.

          More:

          But JihadWatch bloggers have larger minds, & greater intellectual courage. And are not afraid to look at the evidence at AE911Truth.
          ………………………………………

          Reputable engineers and architects have already debunked this rot long since—most notably Popular Mechanics, in their seminal article post 9/11.

          More:

          Still, we must do first things first: Let’s first awaken our fellow Americans to the clear & growing danger of Islamic Stealth Jihad.
          ………………………………………

          Why bother? If Jihadists are just tools of Americans creating a “permanent war economy”?

          More:

          Mirren10, & Boston Tea Party, as far as welcoming in immigrants who end up on welfare, we know welfare can be cut off. These immigrants also flood the labor market, & depress wages by creating more competition among workers. The managers of the politics & economy in the UK, Europe & the US are aware of that. As we all know, they are not looking out for the general benefit of society at large. Look at how they are managing the reprehensible rape gangs in Rotherham. In the US, Obama seems to be reading from a “permanent war economy” script, and so immigrants can become “cannon fodder.”
          ………………………………………

          The idea that immigrants are being welcomed just so that they can serve as cannon fodder is grotesque.

          It is also an insult to those who have joined the military here, immigrants of otherwise. While recent conflicts have generally been handled extraordinarily badly—due to an impossible emphasis on “nation building” and “winning hearts and minds”—dismissing those fighting to maintain our freedoms as nothing more than “cannon fodder” being cynically used by US authorities to maintain a “war economy” is false.

          Immigration has largely historically been a good thing for the United States, where most immigrants quickly assimilate and have a lot to offer. Many American inventions have come from the sons and daughters of immigrants who can blossom with the greater opportunity here.

          But few Muslims follow this paradigm, and are far more likely to consider themselves *enemies* of the West than as “cannon fodder” for it. Of course, perhaps that is part of the “evil Western plot”—let immigrants in, then style them as your own enemies.

          The fact is that *there are* people who want to harm us. This is not true of most of the world, but it *has* been true of Fascists, Communists, and Jihadists.

          And the idea that the free West cannot function without a fake “permanent war economy” is utterly false. The 1990s were a period where, while no period is entirely conflict free, we were free of the threat of the Soviet Union and the Communist block, and the rise of Jihad terror was below the radar for most people.

          And what happened? Overall, we *flourished*. The idea that those behind the scenes had to desperately “create” some sort of enemy is simply ridiculous.

    • forthfaran says

      Feb 15, 2015 at 5:59 pm

      Yes and it is the Socialists who are the first to come out with the “Islamophobia” slanders whenever anyone tries to tell the truth about Islam. In fact it was the multi culti socialists who first started using these neologisms,the phobes,phobic,ists,attaching it to any one who talked about the topics the Socialists didn’t want talked about. These words should not be classed as legitimate as they have no sound etymological root. At best they are slang. A phobia is a mental illness,we can see what the Socialist big brothers are getting at. Stalin would be proud.

  34. spawn44 says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    The left if nothing else is pathetic

    • forthfaran says

      Feb 15, 2015 at 6:01 pm

      The left is vicious,unscrupulous and very ,very dangerous.

  35. FarmerMike says

    Feb 13, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @ Boston Tea Party, yes, I have read and agree with the 5 “truths” which Robert recommends be added to the 9/11 Museum. I’m simply stating that a 6th truth should be added: That truth is that there is overwhelming evidence that the 9/11 attack was ALSO an inside job. True, there were indeed 19 Islamic Jihadist planners and suicide jihadists onboard. And other jihadist planners in the background. But the evidence is overwhelming that there was massive inside help. I know it is unrealistic to expect the 9/11 Museum folks will ever allow such an admission. But it is NOT unrealistic to expect at least some JihadWatch bloggers to have the courage to investigate the evidence. Just go on over to AE911Truth, and you will see. Doing so will take NOTHING away from the arguments put forward by Robert or JWbloggers. But it might add some perspective. And some fury.

  36. gravenimage says

    Feb 14, 2015 at 2:24 am

    UK: Muslim rape gangs could have abused 1,000,000 children; authorities kept silent for fear of being called “racist”
    ………………………………

    When I first heard this figure, I was simply stunned—it hardly seemed credible that the numbers could be so high. But these are all reputable sources here.

    I am shocked—and even angrier than I was before. How much evidence—evidence studiously ignored, and over a long period—must there have been for a crime of this vast size to go on?

    And these are Britain’s *children* being victimized by these foul Muslims. Horrible.

    • Mirren10 says

      Feb 14, 2015 at 11:02 am

      ”When I first heard this figure, I was simply stunned—it hardly seemed credible that the numbers could be so high.”

      It’s been going on for 30 years, graven, so the numbers are likely to be **far more** than that.

      And much as I loathe Nick Griffin and the BNP, the fact remains that Griffin was the **first** to expose and publicise this horrific abuse, and was of course, prosecuted for racist hate crime.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 15, 2015 at 12:46 am

        Yes, Mirren, thank you—I tend to forget just how long supremacist Mohamemdans have been colonizing the UK. Of course, this is even worse—not some sudden thing, but a crime that has been going on *for decades*.

  37. FarmerMike says

    Feb 14, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    @gravenimage, I have several parts to my reply: .
    1)You begin by saying: “Almost no one considered 9/11 “highly probable” pre-9/11.”
    And I agree, I was not at all saying that the 9/11 attack was “highly probable.” Sorry I wasn’t more clear. I was saying the Islamist response to the attack was predictable. And we saw the Islamists were so over-joyed; they danced in the streets. And since then have been performing jihad according to somebody’s plan. Whose plan? Whoever is orchestrating the “permanent war economy.” Not familiar with the concept? Google on it. Been around for 70 years.

    2) Next, you say:: “The idea that Robert Spencer—of all people!—is dumbing things down because he considers Americans too stupid to handle the truth is ludicrous. And if this *were* the case, he wouldn’t bother to warn about the Jihad threat at all.”
    I say: Well, gosh, GravenImage, the fact that you are simply refusing to consider the additional mountain of evidence presented over at AE911Truth, is a dramatic illustration of closed-mindedness, don’t you see? Wouldn’t it be better if you took some time to deal with the interpretation of that available evidence, than to persist in avoidance? And, Robert Spencer has not dismissed the Truther claim that it was an inside job. Robert has simply convincingly shown that the Islamists involved were jihadists. No quibble from me here. He made 5 points, very convincingly. I, FarmerMike, am simply adding a 6th very large point.

    3) Then gravenimage says: “This is based on the false idea that it is only the West that can be truly culpable—everyone else is a victim of evil Western machinations, or at the very least a dupe.”
    I say, not at all. I’m basing my comments on the overwhelming evidence that the jihadists had abundant inside help, in addition to the willing participation of the 19 jihadist suicide participants. You are the one refusing to look at that additional evidence.

    4) graven image says: Reputable engineers and architects have already debunked this rot long since—most notably Popular Mechanics, in their seminal article post 9/11.
    4) I reply: Actually, over 1,500 reputable architechts & engineers have joined the AE911Truth organization. Go see for yourself.

    5) graven image says: Why bother? If Jihadists are just tools of Americans creating a “permanent war economy”?
    I say: Because I’m not ready to surrender this country to Islamist jihadists, or home-grown fascists.

    6) graven image says: The idea that immigrants are being welcomed just so that they can serve as cannon fodder is grotesque. It is also an insult to those who have joined the military here, immigrants or otherwise. While recent conflicts have generally been handled extraordinarily badly—due to an impossible emphasis on “nation building” and “winning hearts and minds”—dismissing those fighting to maintain our freedoms as nothing more than “cannon fodder” being cynically used by US authorities to maintain a “war economy” is false.
    I say: I’m not the one using up our courageous military, several of whom are my relatives, as so much “cannon fodder” in non-winning military forays. Yonder “Post Turtle” President is. Morever, opening the southern border is also a way of letting in more jihadists.

    7) graven image says: The idea that those behind the scenes had to desperately “create” some sort of enemy is simply ridiculous.
    I reply: GravenImage, the vice-chair of the WWII War Production Board, Charles E. Wilson, recommended, in 1944, that the US not return to a civilian economy, but retain a “permanent war economy.” And retiring President Eisenhower also warned of a growing “Military Industrial Complex.” Obama is simply the latest administrator of that military industrial complex, aka permanent war economy.

    • Jay Boo says

      Feb 15, 2015 at 12:54 am

      @FarmerMike
      Forgive my language but,
      Who gives a shit about your stupid 911 conspiracy theories and President Eisenhower blah, blah, blah?

      CHILDREN ARE BEING RAPED AND PIMPED OUT BY MUSLIM RAPE GANGS

      Did I forget to mention MUSLIM? and RAPE and CHILDREN?

  38. gravenimage says

    Feb 15, 2015 at 2:06 am

    Farmer Mike wrote:

    @gravenimage, I have several parts to my reply: .
    1)You begin by saying: “Almost no one considered 9/11 “highly probable” pre-9/11.”
    And I agree, I was not at all saying that the 9/11 attack was “highly probable.” Sorry I wasn’t more clear. I was saying the Islamist response to the attack was predictable. And we saw the Islamists were so over-joyed; they danced in the streets. And since then have been performing jihad according to somebody’s plan. Whose plan?
    ………………………………….

    Again, it is inconceivable to some people that anything truly evil could be the fault of anyone but the West. The idea that Jihad might actually be the idea of Muslims themselves does not appear credible.

    The fact is that Muslims waged violent Jihad ever since the days of the foul “Prophet” himself, and had only been blunted somewhat by the actions of the West between about 1800 and 1950. After that, “political correctness” and a wavering confidence has eroded that hedge, which is a major reason that Islam has once again become a serious threat to us.

    It also worded so well that, unlike our ancestors up until the 19th century, many Westerners haver become quite ignorant about the history of the threat of Islam.

    But while Muslims are taking advantage of the cluelessness of the West, that *does not* mean that the West is somehow responsible for Jihad—only for our inadequate defense against it.

    More:

    Whoever is orchestrating the “permanent war economy.” Not familiar with the concept? Google on it. Been around for 70 years.
    ………………………………….

    Of course I’m familiar with it. It’s the idea that if we don’t have enemies that we will create straw ones just to keep the military machine going. There are those who dismiss the threat of Jihad, the threat of Communism, and the threat of Fascism, and believe that none of them presented any sort of real threat at all, and are just being cynically exploited by generals and fat cat industrialists.

    These are the same people, often, who insist we should have abandoned Britain and Europe to Hitler.

    More:

    2) Next, you say:: “The idea that Robert Spencer—of all people!—is dumbing things down because he considers Americans too stupid to handle the truth is ludicrous. And if this *were* the case, he wouldn’t bother to warn about the Jihad threat at all.”
    I say: Well, gosh, GravenImage, the fact that you are simply refusing to consider the additional mountain of evidence presented over at AE911Truth, is a dramatic illustration of closed-mindedness, don’t you see? Wouldn’t it be better if you took some time to deal with the interpretation of that available evidence, than to persist in avoidance?
    ………………………………….

    I’ve looked at this “evidence” over the past fourteen years—both the physical evidence and the political claims that this was actually pulled off by George Bush, the CIA, Mossad, the Masons, and the Illuminati. Much of such “evidence” is garbled and self-contradictory. I have winnowed through much of it, and I do not find it compelling.

    Meanwhile, Muslims have gone on to pull off the Madrid Train Bombings, the London Tube Bombings, the attack on Beslen, the bombings in Moscow, the attack on Mumbai, the attack on the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, on and on. And many of these attacks are deep in the Muslim world—bombings in Iraq, attacks on a school in Pakistan, enslavement in Sudan, massacres in Somalia, genocide in the Islamic State. If 9/11 was pulled off by the West, then how many of the other 25,000+ Jihad attacks around the world were the fault of—who was it again? George Bush?. After all, Muslims are claiming that it was the “Zionists” who were responsible for burning the Jordanian pilot to death.

    More:

    And, Robert Spencer has not dismissed the Truther claim that it was an inside job. Robert has simply convincingly shown that the Islamists involved were jihadists. No quibble from me here. He made 5 points, very convincingly. I, FarmerMike, am simply adding a 6th very large point.
    ………………………………….

    This is rot. Robert Spencer has, in fact, many times dismissed the idea that Muslims are somehow just pawns of the West, and that the “real” enemy is actually the US military or industrialists or the Bilderberg Group or the Rosicrucians or what have you.

    And this is not just “adding a 6th point”—this is essentially saying that Muslims are no more than tools, and that it is our own leaders who are really murdering us.

    And you never say why we should listen to “FarmerMike”.

    More:

    3) Then gravenimage says: “This is based on the false idea that it is only the West that can be truly culpable—everyone else is a victim of evil Western machinations, or at the very least a dupe.”
    I say, not at all. I’m basing my comments on the overwhelming evidence that the jihadists had abundant inside help, in addition to the willing participation of the 19 jihadist suicide participants. You are the one refusing to look at that additional evidence.
    ………………………………….

    Note that there is no real indication of who that “inside help” might have been—just that we should accept that in fourteen years no one has come forward.

    More:

    4) graven image says: Reputable engineers and architects have already debunked this rot long since—most notably Popular Mechanics, in their seminal article post 9/11.
    4) I reply: Actually, over 1,500 reputable architechts & engineers have joined the AE911Truth organization. Go see for yourself.
    ………………………………….

    I’ve seen that the theories by Truthers don’t much hold together—some claim that there were no planes, some that the planes were diverted to some secret location and the buildings actually brought down by explosives, some that the building never actually fell at all,, and that it was all special effects.

    More:

    5) graven image says: Why bother? If Jihadists are just tools of Americans creating a “permanent war economy”?
    I say: Because I’m not ready to surrender this country to Islamist jihadists, or home-grown fascists.
    ………………………………….

    Apparently those Jihadists are no real threat without the evil West.

    More:

    6) graven image says: The idea that immigrants are being welcomed just so that they can serve as cannon fodder is grotesque. It is also an insult to those who have joined the military here, immigrants or otherwise. While recent conflicts have generally been handled extraordinarily badly—due to an impossible emphasis on “nation building” and “winning hearts and minds”—dismissing those fighting to maintain our freedoms as nothing more than “cannon fodder” being cynically used by US authorities to maintain a “war economy” is false.
    I say: I’m not the one using up our courageous military, several of whom are my relatives, as so much “cannon fodder” in non-winning military forays. Yonder “Post Turtle” President is. Morever, opening the southern border is also a way of letting in more jihadists.
    ………………………………….

    Political correctness is extraordinarily dangerous—but the idea that our cluelessness in the face of Jihad is actually deliberate evil by a shadowy Western evil not only makes no sense, it also cannot explain why so many ordinary Westerners are reluctant to face the Jihad threat—unless we are to believe that *everyone* who appears to be in denial over the threat is actually part of this evil, shadowy cabal.

    More:

    7) graven image says: The idea that those behind the scenes had to desperately “create” some sort of enemy is simply ridiculous.
    I reply: GravenImage, the vice-chair of the WWII War Production Board, Charles E. Wilson, recommended, in 1944, that the US not return to a civilian economy, but retain a “permanent war economy.” And retiring President Eisenhower also warned of a growing “Military Industrial Complex.” Obama is simply the latest administrator of that military industrial complex, aka permanent war economy.
    ………………………………….

    There were unwarranted fears that with peace that the depression would return, and Eisenhower was concerned about the continuation of the necessary war-time ties between the military and private sectors—I understand the historical context of these quotes.

    The idea that this translates into seventy years of crazed American presidents and their henchmen intent on murdering Westerners and enabling Jihad terror is the very definition of irrational conspiracy theory.

  39. Felix Quigley says

    Feb 15, 2015 at 6:09 am

    There is no question that we are dealing with a capitalist system that is in deepening crisis which is an historical crisis a crisis explained in the Communist Manifestó by Karl Marx many years ago.

    Also that there are no ends (NONE) that this system of profit and power will not go to in order to maintain its rule.

    One of the signal events was the collaboration of the CIA in the Sukarno coup in Indonesia which involved it is thought the CIA giving the names of operatives to the coup generals and this then turned into major genocide in the countryside with it is said a million mainly communist (stalinist) youth being liquidated by mainly Muslim gangs of killers

    And there are many other examples as in 90s Yugoslavia when the US elites joined with the Islamist Izetbegovic and against the socialist/Christian forces of the Serbs

    So as regards 9 11 mysteries there are no lengths that the ruling classes will not go to in order to hold on to power. You can say at least THAT about 9 11

    One of the effects of the 9 11 operation has been the advent of an Antisemitic truther movement. All of these truthers every one are Antisemites of the very worst order.

    An example of this would be David Icke who on the one hand appears to be mad with his talk of extra terrestrial “lizards” etc. but on the other disseminates continually trutherism with Antisemitism

    When the smoke clears in all of these cases one thing is always certain. We are having our democratic rights to free speech more and more stripped away.

    Take the issue of the banning from Britain of Robert and Pamela something which I detst and which I think as absolutely central in politics today. This would not have happened and could not have happened if the Fascist Left of these truther movements had not supported this. Their silence is often the weapon that they use.

    Thus this Fascist Left (stalinist and labourist) are a very big problem.

    In the same way the English Defence League and Paul Weston were more or less kicked off the streets of Britain by these same forces – the Tories Labour and fascist left – all in this grand coalition with the Islamic Jihad

    This is the background to the attacks on English working class girls.

    the Jihad operates because of that Grand Coalition. In Rotherham it especially involves all aspect of the British Labour Party. But again historically this is not new. The British Labourites in 1939 were the worst Antisemites on the planet.

    But the Jihad has a history and was in operation since the 600s and thus has an inependence of action. Nobody at all is pulling their strings. They ARE!

    But of course they are too being used. It is not a question of “war economy” that is a distraction or at best just one aspect of the issue. It is a question of power. Simply the capitalist system is determined to remain in power

    This is not new. It has been written about often. But people get distracted because there are people who distract!

    If we take the banning of Robert and Pamela from britain. The immediate question to Teresa May is if you want to understand what is Islam why ban them, surely you would be inviting experts such as these two and others to speak in Britain.

    So because they do not do that or want that these political leaders therefore for some reason want to have the masses of the people remain ignorant about what Islam really is.

    It seems that their Alliance with Jihad and Islam is there for strategic reasons. I cannot prove that but the facts seem to indicate that. it is not an episodic Alliance. It seems to be more deeply strategic and leads to dictatorship the form of which is not yet clear.

    Britain has always been very sensitive to the dangers of revolution peasant or now workers.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 15, 2015 at 3:04 pm

      Oh, good grief. Now the presence of “FarmerMike” appears to have drawn out a hard-core Communist, ranting about the supposed evils of capitalism.

      There are also a handful of Nazi apologists here.

      Thankfully, such people are rarities in the Counter Jihad.

      • Mirren10 says

        Feb 15, 2015 at 3:15 pm

        ”Thankfully, such people are rarities in the Counter Jihad.”

        Very true, graven !

        But I question whether the ilk of ”FarmerMike” and his barking sidekicks are in fact at all bothered by Islamic jihad, mohammedan supremacists et al.

        I see them as wandering lonely as a bank of clouds, haplessly looking for some blog that will shelter/enable them and their lunacies … 🙂

      • TheBuffster says

        Feb 16, 2015 at 3:05 am

        Yes, it’s interesting how people of different political backgrounds can spin events to fit into what they already believe.

        I, myself, believe that the left has been undermining the rationality and personal independence of the West with socialist/welfare statist ideology, undermining objectivity and grossly slanting history in order to create a population ripe for some version of totalitarian tyranny. What we’ve got today isn’t free market capitalism, it’s a botched blend of semi-capitalism (semi-free markets), crippled by all the political and business interest groups who don’t want to play by the free market rules, but want government favors enforced by the coercive power of the law.

        The right… well, it’s been pretty incompetent much of the time at fighting for liberty, allowing itself to become lefty-light instead of standing up for full-fledged individual rights and free markets, and competing successfully at winning the culture. There’s too big a portion of the population who have been led away from understanding liberty, what it is, what it requires and what it accomplishes.

        We’ve been de-immunized. Our nutrients have been doctored. We’re low on the vitamin D of reason and the calcium of knowledge, and our society’s backbone’s got a bad case of politically correct osteoporosis.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 16, 2015 at 3:59 pm

        Agreed, Mirren and Buffster.

    • FarmerMike says

      Feb 15, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      Felix, I’m willing to set the 9/11 question aside for the time being. But I am very interested in what strategy–other than this excellent “talk shop” JihadWatch blog–we should adopt to halt this repulsive Islamist stealth jihad march across the world. Robert has been leading the charge here at JW since 2003, and we’re still just talking. We’re all aware of the “silence of the media lambs.” I’ve suggested filing a class action suit against “hate speech” being taught in the mosques. Need a willing lawyer to initiate that. I’ve also suggested knocking on church doors and delivering educational material to the churches, showing that the Koran teaches Muslims to kill infidels. I’ve begun doing this in my small town. What strategy do you suggest? We can’t just keep on talking, and do nothing.

  40. Mirren10 says

    Feb 15, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    ” But I am very interested in what strategy–other than this excellent “talk shop” JihadWatch blog–we should adopt to halt this repulsive Islamist stealth jihad march across the world.”

    Dear me, how self-contradictory you are !

    Since, as you contend, jihad is nothing more than a response to the evil machinations of Western governments, intent on murdering their own citizens, in order to … well, I must admit I got a bit confused there … but I’m sure you’ll be able to direct me onto the correct course ….

    Why should we halt ”this repulsive Islamist stealth jihad march across the world.” ??

    I am sorry, kimo sabe, obe wan, great, wonderful repository of knowledge that is not given to the rest of us paisans to share; tell, tell us !, what we must do !!

    What a silly twat you are. 🙂 🙂

    • FarmerMike says

      Feb 15, 2015 at 6:32 pm

      Mirren, don’t you see, if we just keep on talking to each other–and insulting each other–and never come up with a plan or a strategy of action, well, I guess we’ll just talk ourselves to death, well before the stealth jihad reaches us. What do you think, insults aside?

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