They fined him? Why? How will that foster community cohesion? David Cameron and Theresa May should apologize to him for any inconvenience British officials may have caused him, and give him a fine promotion.
Seriously, how many more teachers in Britain agree with Mahmudul Choudhury, and what is being done about them? Nothing whatsoever, of course.
“Teacher fined for posting pro-Hitler image on Facebook aimed at Jews,” the Telegraph, February 18, 2015 (thanks to Benedict):
A teacher has been fined after pleading guilty to posting a pro-Hitler image on Facebook.
Mahmudul Choudhury, a 35-year-old father of two, admitted the racially-aggravated offence aimed at Jews.
He shared a photo of the former Nazi leader on Facebook, which had the words “Yes man, you were right. I could have killed all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was killing them. Share this picture to tell the truth a whole world”.
Accompanying the image, Choudhury wrote: “Yes, now we can see why.”
The teacher was reported to police by a Jewish student he taught who he had previously added as a friend on Facebook.
Choudhury, from Tower Hamlets, was told at Bromley Magistrates’ Court that he might face losing his job over the incident as he is still employed as a teacher.
Magistrates fined him £465 and ordered he pay £85 costs and a £47 victim surcharge.
Lead magistrate Ms Muckell told Choudhury: “Obviously reading through this and the letters, you’re a well thought of person and this is going to put your standing down a lot.
“We know you have now given up Facebook, but social media can cause a lot of problems as you found out the hard way.
“We have taken everything into consideration as what has been said and also that you pleaded guilty to this matter at the earliest opportunity.
“We are going to deal with this by way of a financial penalty.”
Toyin Odumade, prosecuting, said: “On July 11 of last year Mr Choudhury had posted an image on his Facebook account of Adolf Hitler with the following words written below.
“I could have killed all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was killing them.
“Mr Choudhury also put a caption above it saying ‘Yes, now we can see why’.
“This Facebook poster was seen at the school where Mr Choudhury worked. This pupil is Jewish and it caused him distress so alerted the police.
“This led to Mr Choudhury being arrested and taken to the police station where he was interviewed.
“In this interview, he said he had been on Facebook for four years. He said he kept his Facebook account up-to-date about what was going on in the world and sometimes posted things of freedom of speech and political stuff but never anything racist.
“He was shown the poster on his Facebook account and he confirmed it was his Facebook profile.
“He said he used it to keep up-to-date with what was going on in the world. He said the poster had been sent to him, but he had shared it accidentally.
“When asked about the caption above it he admitted writing it, but stated that he posted the image by accident.
“Later in his interview, he said he could understand why people could find the image offensive but stated that he didn’t want to offend anybody and that is was an accident. He was subsequently charged with the offence.”
The student who reported Choudhury to the police previously attended a school he no longer teaches at – Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College in New Cross, South East London.
Subhankar Banerjee, defending, told the court: “This is a young man in his mid-30s, a family man of impeccable good character, never been spoken to by the police before who was absolutely adamant he holds no anti-semitic or other extremist views.”
Mr Banerjee added that his client took full responsibility for what happened and it is now possible he may lose his job because of it…
“Possible”? Only “possible”?
Hammer saddiq says
No freedom of speech? I guess not.
cs says
That is not freedom of speech, it is just hate speech. Same as I say that Muslims should be murdered or executed, or stuff like that.
Rachel W says
Yes, freedom of speech. We have to get truth out of a Nazi-emulating Muslim. His views make him unfit to educate and he should have been deported and sacked.
Angemon says
Right, he “accidentally” pressed the “share” button, “accidentally” wrote the caption and them, to add insult to injury, he “accidentally” posted the whole thing. Could happen to anyone, really.
Right, it was all a freakish “accident”. Just one more thing: was his alleged “impeccable good character” and lack of “extremist views” attested mostly or exclusively by other muslims?
gerard says
You made me laugh Angemon. I often find that humour is not dead on JW.
gerard says
that was in reply to: “he “accidentally” posted the whole thing. Could happen to anyone, really.”
Lee Poteet says
No muslim is a man of “good character” much less the superlative addition. What do they do to lawyers who lie?
roger woodhouse says
Their instruction manual tells them to lie to the kuffah.Just when will this fact be recognised by our legal profession?
Loretta Pienaar says
What in the name of Almighty God*** is going on, England??? What is going on?? ***Almighty God, the GOD I pray to!! I AM A CHRISTIAN!! I HAVE MANY, MANY, MANY JEWISH FRIENDS. What is going on that evil thoughts can be spread in a civilised country and hardly a tap on the wrist??? What is this???
avo says
islam?
Salah says
@ avo
“islam?”
No. Islam is only filling the void. We made that void when we turned away from God.
roger says
Very true.The left did a fine job dismantling our Christian faith and heritage.I wonder when they will admit it was a huge mistake
roger woodhouse says
True.The left did a fine job in dismantling our Christian faith and heritage.I wonder when they will admit their mistake
Babs says
Not sure I agree totally with you. it’s true that Islam is like an opportunistic infection which moves in and overruns whenever society’s immune system is weak, but this is not down to lack of belief in God. After all even Christians are in the forefront of making common cause with Islam’s agenda, via “interfaith” and lunacies like those spouted by the ignominious Rev Stephen Sizer.
I have many friends who are devout and many who profess no formal belief in a higher being. They are excellent people who live productive lives and teach their children to value freedom.
Judaeo-Christian heritage is an import aspect of our culture, but the lack of realisation of it need not lead to the infamies we are now seeing. No, more likely is that the elected leadership are moral cowards and morally bankrupt.
Dr John says
What is going on is INFIDELOPHOBIA led by the Islam loving Cameron and the rest of the political community. All those of Pakistani origin should be removed from the country and sent to the Islamic State where there can behead one another all day long!!
crunchie says
Lmao-thats great!-“infidelophobia” DR.John, thank you !
allan carr bryan says
Strange how the 2 faced scumbag repented AFTER he had been caught, if not what other filth would he have posted about the Jews. I bet he’s a hero amongst the raghead scum he mixes with. How would he feel if somebody had posted rubbish about his children etc…? As for keeping his job, what a joke. I for one would not want this BIGOT teaching my children. If he were White British all the Muslim scum would be up in arms, protesting and DEMANDING he be sacked immediately.
Babs says
It’s not strange at all. The moral development of such a one is stuck at about age seven, when a thing is wrong only if you are caught doing it. Because they are uniquely sensitive to being publicly shamed when they are caught out, their apologies are meant only to deflect that.
We should therefore aim to name and shame these people publicly whenever they engage in such behaviour, and that should include flagging up when double standards are applied to them (a non-Muslim who wrote similar about Muslims would have been tarred and feathered and probably receive death threats) and when, as in this case, they get a derisory, “slap on the wrist” sentence for the poison they spread.
What a pity we are not told where this person is teaching now. If we knew we could write to the Board of Governors and demand that he be sacked from his job, not for the views he holds (we can still THINK anything we like, however heinous) but for being arrogant and stupid enough to disseminate them.
ECAW says
Good point. Shame is a more primitive emotion than guilt but has some advantages when in conflict with neurotically guilt obsessed cultures. I think this is very good on the Arabic culture of honour and shame:
http://tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/176673/emotional-nakba?all=1
Babs says
Thanks for the link.
Fear of public shaming is what has these idiots following the herd and wreaking havoc wherever they are allowed to.
They are also highly averse to being deprived of finances.
Myself, I boycott Muslim businesses and refuse to support politicised charities who make common cause with Islamists, such as OXFAM, War on Want and others in the UK.
The hardest task, however, is educating the UK’s dhimmi leaders about what Islam is really about, particularly as regards their depravity when it comes to the treatment of women and children, even their own
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
(The local ruling elite) should apologize to him for any inconvenience British officials may have caused him, and give him a fine promotion.
This is not as far fetched as it sound. In fact, it’s a proven technique. It worked well when Amal Abdel Hafiz, then one of the first fast rising Moslem agents in the FBI, refused to wear a wire for the critical dinner with Sami Al-Arian. Even though the FBI had a warrant, the case was held back by the non-recording.
Instead of firing Special Agent Hafiz for insubordination, they gave him a promotion, to run the FBI’s Riyadh desk, and a fat pay raise to boot.
gerard says
Same with the Fort Hood murderer Nidal Malik Hasan. His hostile rants were “punished” with promotion.
Also countries like Pakistan that foster terrorism are “punished” with an increase in aid.
deedee says
Hitler loved muslims he thought they were great and they were on Germany side on both world wars
Marco says
A non muslim Brit would have been fired never to work again but a muslim just gets a hand slap.
Michael Warden says
Yes. This happed to Adam Walker. He was ex army, then PE teacher. Came across two small vandalizing property, chased them and slashed their tyres on their bycicles. Over the top , of course. Charged with Criminal Damage and found guilty, he was suspended by his school for two years but the School Governers stated they wanted him back at the school when the two years were up. Michael Gove, the then Education Secretary, banned him from teaching for LIFE. This was because of his political affiliatons. Meanwhile, back in the real world, the muslims in several schools who were found to be teaching pupils seditious material ARE STILL TEACHING.
katnis says
Can you imagine if the tables were turned? What if a jewish teacher posted something so blatantly anti-muslim on Facebook? You’d have the entire muslim world up in arms and the jewish teacher would have a hit on his life!
Why the hypocrisy? And why wasn’t this guy fired on the spot?
Babs says
I am assuming that your question is not a rhetorical one.
The UK is in a general election year and the result is highly uncertain.
Muslims tend to vote en bloc and how their imams instruct them. This has their useful kufr idiots in all political parties bending themselves out of shape not to offend them.
When Islam views Jews and other non-Muslims as subhuman it isn’t hypocrisy on their parts to rejoice when they are killed or maimed (think 9/11 and the rejoicing in the Middle East during the 1st and 2nd intifadas whenever terror attacks were successful, and during the two Gaza wars if ever Jews got killed).
What is truly unconscionable and hypocritical is when Christians, Jews and others who are living in the West make common cause with them to “celebrate interfaith” in ignorace of the real nature of Islam. Muslims who participate, having presumably said salat, which asks their allah to punish the people of the book, are engaging in the taqiyya inherent in such hypocrisy.
All of them make me sick.
Arthur says
I would think that running as the “don’t vote for me if you are a Muslim” candidate would generate a lot of votes from people looking for a change. It would also create a lot of attention.
Mirren10 says
The student who reported Choudhury to the police previously attended a school he no longer teaches at – Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College in New Cross, South East London
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2699331/Nigerian-accountants-4million-fraud-academies-Gove-hailed-Staff-member-said-spent-cash-extravagant-lifestyle.html
No surprise there.
Mirren10 says
“He said he used it to keep up-to-date with what was going on in the world. He said the poster had been sent to him, but he had shared it accidentally.
“When asked about the caption above it he admitted writing it, but stated that he posted the image by accident”
Accidently, by accident.
Just how stupid does he think we are ? Plenty stupid, I think..
Jeff says
He will end up getting fired for incitement to murder and genocide.
Marco says
No he wont he’s a muslim. Muslims may do or say what they please.
mortimer says
How ignorant does a school teacher get? This is something else! It’s an example of the bizarre, parallel-universe, conspiratorial, paranoid world of Islam.
The mask of Islam is falling off. The inbreeding, the Jew hatred, the intolerance, the hatred of all things Western, the supremacism, the endless misogyny are being seen by more and more Western people. At last. Cameron and May won’t be able to deny this whole ideology is a psycho-world!
15% of Muslims are jihad supporters and one in 5,000 are actual, dangerous jihadists.
I’m reaching the point (if I were dictator) where I would send them all back to Berzerkistan where they can kill one another every day to their hearts’ content!
sidney penny says
People keep asking what is your solution Robert.What do you think someone( whoever-person-society,organisation,state)should do?
My solution is this:(and what Robert Spencer says)
Part 1
Any incitement to violence in wha ever form,e.g. holding up a sign saying behead those who insult the prophet of Islam should be dealt with quickly and with the full force of the law–there should be no such thing that because they are Muslims they can get away from saying it, writing it ,broadcasting it,or displaying it,
If there is no law then there should be one.that deals with violence or incitement to violence.
Part 2 –explain why it is not part of Islam-to people who say it is not part of Islam.
http://khabarsoutheastasia.com/en_GB/articles/apwi/articles/features/2012/06/29/feature-02\
Terrorists misunderstand Islam, religious leaders say
Responding to the verdict handed down against Umar Patek, prominent clerics say young people should take heed and not fall into the trap of religious extremism.
Yenny Herawati for
Islamic jihad terrorists is often labelled as “misunderstanders of Islam,” in light of the mainstream media and government dogma that Islam is a “Religion of Peace” and only those who misunderstand its teachings would dare commit violence in its name.
Why there are so very many Misunderstanders, all over the world, is never explained by the learned analysts.
And notice that these Muslim leaders never bother to explain exactly how the terrorists misunderstand Islam, except to repeat that Islam teaches tolerance. How the teaching of tolerance overrides the many exhortations to jihad warfare against unbelievers that can be found in the Qur’an and Sunnah is also left unexplained.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2916562/Incredible-scenes-tens-thousands-gather-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-Chechnya-day-revealed-print-run-magazine-record-SEVEN-MILLION.html
“Growing anger across Muslim world over Charlie Hebdo magazine as hundreds of thousands march in Chechnya and Iranians chant ‘Death to France’ (but Pakistanis mistakenly burn the wrong flag),” by Ted Thornhill and Steph Cockroft, Daily Mail, January 19, 2015:
They’re not protesting against the murder of twelve cartoonists for the crime of drawing Muhammad.
They’re protesting against the cartoons. And these protests are growing worldwide.
If the mainstream narrative about Islam were true, we would at least see some Muslim demonstrations somewhere against the murder of the cartoonists. There have been none.
But the Western elites remain as thick-headed and resolved to ignore the truth as ever: just last night, CNN ran a feature show, “The War Within Islam,” in which luminaries such as Ground Zero Mosque imam Rauf’s wife Daisy Khan assured us that what the killers did had no basis in Islam. Why, then, are there so many Muslims who misunderstand this, such as these 800,000 in Chechnya?
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/cia-islamic-state-has-2-to-3-times-more-fighters-than-previous-estimate/
“CIA: Islamic State Has 2 To 3 Times More Fighters Than Previous Estimate,” by Caroline Lee Smith,Washington Free Beacon, September 12, 2014:
So many misunderstanders of Islam!
Where do they keep coming from? Why do they keep misunderstanding the faith whose teachings are so clear to non-Muslims like John Kerry and David Cameron? Why do the government or media elites never, ever ponder questions like these?
Part 3 –what is Islam doing? – What are Muslims doing?
Why are they not developing and instituting programs in mosques and Islamic schools,in the press,on radio, to teach against the beliefs and assumptions that lead to terror and violence
http://www.aina.org/news/20150131183427.htm
“ISIS Enters Assyrian Town in Syria, Removes Church Cross,” AINA, January 31, 2015:
Where are the Muslims not just condemning this, but developing and instituting programs in mosques and Islamic schools and in the media, to teach against the beliefs and assumptions that give rise to it?
Certainly non-Muslims aren’t doing anything to call them to account .
abad says
Yeah like the whole FB post and friend bit was an “accident.”
Only a mentally ill individual would say that but then we all know Islam is a mental illness
mortimer says
The judge said: “We are going to deal with this by way of a financial penalty.”
I would have sentenced him to do community service with the people he hates…for instance at the Holocaust museum or a Jewish centre that serves Holocaust victims and their families.
Georg says
This satanist’s beard is making me want to smash something; I’ll refrain from saying what that something is.
Charli Main says
Lead magistrate Ms Muckell told Choudhury: “Obviously reading through this and the letters, you’re a well thought of person and this is going to put your standing down a lot.
“We know you have now given up Facebook, but social media can cause a lot of problems as you found out the hard way.
The whole court procedure involved tippy toeing around this Muslim POS.
It would of been more honest if Muckell had just come out and said ” unfortunately you have been caught so I´m going to have to do something about it. Got to keep up appearance for the Islamophobes. Be more careful in future”
Salah says
“He shared a photo of the former Nazi leader on Facebook…Share this picture to tell the truth a whole world”.
How about sharing a picture of Muhammad to show the whole world how “macho” he was!!!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/drawing-muhammad-dessiner-mahomet.html
ECAW says
Quite agree about the “accident” and “good character” bollocks but when Robert Spencer says:
“Seriously, how many more teachers in Britain agree with Mahmudul Choudhury, and what is being done about them? Nothing whatsoever, of course.”
he is wrong. The government are doing something on various fronts. The Charity Commission are focussing on Muslim charities, Pickles has suspended two local councils (Tower Hamlets for corruption and Rotherham for looking the other way).
When Michael Gove was Education minister he lifted the lid on the Trojan Horse scandal. He put an ex counter-terrorism cop in charge of the investigation rather than OFSTED and it got results. It probably cost him his job but new cases are found every now and then. The taboo has been broken.
Dr John says
No taboo has been broken. The principal INFIDELOPHOBE, Cameron, with ensure the Islamists can do anything they like.
jayell says
“Choudhury, from Tower Hamlets, was told at Bromley Magistrates’ Court that he might face losing his job over the incident as he is still employed as a teacher.”….The Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets. That’s a good start!
“He said he used it to keep up-to-date with what was going on in the world. He said the poster had been sent to him, but he had shared it accidentally.When asked about the caption above it he admitted writing it, but stated that he posted the image by accident.” Just like those nice men on 9/11 wanted to give the hard-working pilots a break but accidentally lost their way and accidentally couldn’t avoid the twin towers. And like, on 7/7, those four impeccable characters accidentally forgot that they had left their fireworks in their rucksacks when they went on the London Underground. And all those nice friendly muslim men in Rotherham who accidentally found those girls in their cars and were going to take them for a nice ride down to the local supermarket to buy them chocolate.
“Later in his interview, he said he could understand why people could find the image offensive but stated that he didn’t want to offend anybody and that is was an accident. He was subsequently charged with the offence.” So, he could understand why ‘people could find the image offensive’ – but maybe wasn’t offended himself? And although he though it might be offensive to some, he didn’t want to offend anyone? Sorry, I’m beginning to lose it here. Oh, I forgot, it was all an accident!
“Subhankar Banerjee, defending, told the court: “This is a young man in his mid-30s, a family man of impeccable good character, never been spoken to by the police before who was absolutely adamant he holds no anti-semitic or other extremist views.” Here we go. “Young man”, therefore inexperienced, therefore could be forgiven for ‘making a mistake’….but in his LATE 30’s???? That’s nearly middle-aged!!! How about the next bit? ‘A family man of impeccable character’…..So, in one breath he’s apparently youthful (sympathy, sympathy) the in the next he’s an upright ‘family man’, pillar of the establishment, deserves respect, etc. etc,…..Talk about having your cake and eating it!!! “Never been spoken to by the police before”…..because they were never around to catch him before? “absolutely adamant he holds no anti-semitic or other extremist views.”……but posts anti-Semitic material on his Facebook page, for all to see? Oh, sorry, I forgot, he’s accident-prone! And the next bit? “Mr Banerjee added that….. it is now possible he may lose his job because of it”. POSSIBLE? How about this from previous posts?….”Victoria Wastney was fired as a nurse for praying for an ill muslim colleague”….
“Adam Walker. He was ex army, then PE teacher. Came across two small vandalizing property, chased them and slashed their tyres on their bycicles…. Charged with Criminal Damage and found guilty, he was suspended by his school for two years… but Michael Gove, the then Education Secretary, banned him from teaching for LIFE… because of his political affiliatons.” I suggest everyone ‘watches this space’!
thomas pellow says
Supplementary.
“Teacher in online pro-Hitler rant is still in the classroom.”
“Daily Mail’ 19 Feb 2015-
“A TEACHER has been fined for posting a pro-Hitler image on Facebook but is still working at a school.
Mahmudul Choudhury, 35, was reported to police by his Jewish former students who saw the post online. He shared an image of Hitler featuring the inscription: ‘I could have killed all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was killing them.’ Choudhury captioned it: ‘Yes man, you were right.’
The father-of-two pleaded guilty to the racially aggravated offence aimed at Jewish people but denied being antiSemitic and claimed he shared the image ‘by accident’. Bromley magistrates heard that Choudhury, from Tower Hamlets in London, may lose his job over the incident. He was fined a total of £597.”
Babs says
Why am I not surprised? It’s probably a madrassa where his ideas would fit right in.
I am disgusted though. He should be forced to resign and never employed in any position where he could influence young people.
Babs says
Can you send a link to the page on which this is reported? Have searched myself but cannot find it.
Thanks.
exsgtbrown says
is anyone looking into who sent him the poster?
DRDIAS says
There is no logical, moral, ethical, academic, social, or even any irrational reasoning to compare the Male Dominated tyrannical dictatorial Ideology of Islam to any known Religious, Culture or Ethnic group.
The vast overwhelming majority of these Male Members of this overtly Male Dominated Islamic tyrannical dictatorial ideological cult of enslavement and death, cannot reside or abide under any normalized morally culturally acceptable common or civil based laws as even remotely literate gracious civilized humans.
They must have their barbaric criminalized overt violence, inhumane bloodletting, horrific pedophilic perversions legalized, their wanton lecherous perversions.
The wanton use of rape, torture, disfigurement, fire(immolation), and acid used in Honor killings of young girls and women to legitimize their abuse of their wives.
While dominating young girls, women they enslave and then sell as disposable domestic sexual objects for their personal depravity.
Their wanton blood lust that continually orchestrates overt violent assaults, stoning, stabbings, shooting, murderous rages, suicide bombings, rape, torture, dismemberment, crucifixion, beheading, pillaging, barbaric profaned pedophilia, including caged immolation against anyone they deem not worthy of their Islamic Male dominated Ideology of death and tyrannical male dominated enslavement against any one, and everything that is remotely contrary to their distorted perspective of legitimate civilized society.
jayell says
Thanks for the highly enlightening exercise in misandric ranting, but perhaps you’d now care to explain why muslim females appear to be just as aggressive and obnoxious as the males and not only apparently to take great delight stuffing themselves into their stupid bin bags but also seem to relish abusing females who don’t?
John Hartley says
A £500 fine is a disgustingly lenient sentence when you compare it with the 1 year jail sentence handed down to a guy who wrapped a rasher of bacon round a mosque doorknob. The Adolph facebook entry was much more horrendously hateful and offensive when compared with the bacon prank.