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UK TV host asks Jewish filmmaker if walking in Paris with yarmulke was a “provocation”

Feb 19, 2015 11:00 pm By Robert Spencer

The UK’s hideously compromised Channel 4 (of course, when speaking of any mainstream media outlet in Britain, “hideously compromised” is a given) interviewed the maker of this video, and ended up asking him if walking through Paris wearing a yarmulke was an “act of provocation.”

And people wonder why the UK is in the fix it’s in.

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  1. jon p says

    Feb 19, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    Europe is a cess pit and the sooner we get out the better. Remember, they’ll never forgive us for surviving the Holocaust.

    • Januk36 says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 2:23 am

      Jon, It’s ironic how labels have been perverted in Europe.

      The left considers itself as being in the tradition of the heroic fighters against Nazis. Nowadays they are the most anti-semitic thinly disguisng it as being “pro” Palestine, while fellow citizens being critical of immigration are routinely labelled as “Nazis”, included my while discussing in a forum with a moronic “Sozialarbeiter” from Mannheim.

      Being a liberal and former leftist myself I rethoricaly gave him that Alinsky treatment until his emotions got the better of him and out comes an ugly fucking racist calling me a dirty Albanian, Pseudo-Swiss and lately guessing I was a Nazi-German after all. The irony, the irony.

      Personally I’m extremely frustrated to what level the mere faculty of thinking logically has degenerated here among so called “academics”.

      • Marko says

        Feb 20, 2015 at 6:15 am

        Januk- I know about Rules for Radicals, but can you let me know what kind/style of ‘Alinsky treatment’ you were using? I’m realising that it’s essential that the non-Left bring to bear some of the asymmetric power that those scumbags wield so naturally, when reason has been checked at the door.

        • Januk36 says

          Feb 20, 2015 at 5:08 pm

          Marko – Alinsky apparently pointed out that his rules are rather principles to be applied creatively than procedures to be followed literally.

          The most important thing is to realise that it is plain bullying and works both ways. You probably don’t want to let that become your second nature.

          However, once the red line has been crossed by your adversary either leave or be prepared and willing to be cruel, to really want to hurt his feelings and get personal. It’s not about being fair and civilised anymore.

          You need to understand your opponent and take some time to learn to know him better. You need to know the anatomy of his mind in order to be effective. You may start by poking rhetorically in various directions and get a feeling – between the lines – what really matters to him, his real values. You then start to check his responses by attacking indirectly.

          For instance, if it were Obama I wouldn’t discuss with him the virtues or viscousness of islam but the importance of enlightenment and freeing, liberating the minds form religious superstition. That would include islam. He might take the bait or not, he might attack atheism or secularism and alienate the liberals on his side (Isolation). If you are religious than acting as “atheist” has the advantage that whatever counter-argument follows, it will not likely unnerve you. Consider the power words of your opponent and find way to apply them to YOUR benefit. (“liberate”, “change”, “we all want to be the same”). Get the upper hand by reframing his power words. Go a step in a new directions and make the liberal look conservative. They actually are.

          If you manage to identify weakness this way, start building up pressure, attack, attack, attack. Often initiated by picking up one the opponents arguments, leading it at absurdum followed naturally by ridicule.Many people from the left are completely convinced to be superior and can’t stand cracks in their self-esteem. The same person got extremely emotional twice and made written remarks that would have allowed me to sue him.

          Now imagine, what had followed if I had been an organised militant.

      • sheik yer'mami says

        Feb 20, 2015 at 7:35 am

        The left never fought the Nazis. The left was the Nazis.

        Right means being right, not wrong.

    • Geoff Miller says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 4:13 am

      So that’s the thanks my parents generation get for fighting and defeating the Nazis whilst many Jews (Jack Straw MP’s father for instance) sat out the war as conscientious objectors?

      The sooner people with your attitude go the better!

      • jarheal says

        Feb 20, 2015 at 4:42 am

        That statement seethes with the stupidity of an antisemite. Jews fought in the war as hard as anyone else. You just are too dumb to understand Jew’s are self affacing and not arrogant like you are, so will make statements how they did not fight. For the small number there are the number of accomplishments on the battlefield for the allies by Jews is unprecedented, my own great grandfather was a hero on the Italian front..

      • Marko says

        Feb 20, 2015 at 6:18 am

        Geoff- hints as to where to get an IDF wristband and I will proudly wear with you?

      • Art says

        Feb 20, 2015 at 9:03 am

        Really? My father fought in Europe while his brother fought in the South Pacific including Okinawa. My brother’s father-in-law was on a navy ship under kamikazi attack near Okinawa while his brother was killed on Okinawa. You call that being conscientious objectors? What a dolt.

    • Crixus says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 4:31 am

      You are wrong Jon, just because the Dhimmi apologists in the governments and media kow tow dosent mean that there are huge numbers of Europeans who are appalled at what is happening to our shared judeo- Christian culture.

    • jane kelly says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 6:11 am

      Please, give us some credit! I hope many people think like me that the Channel 4 interviewer has some very strange bed-fellow. The left and Islam is like the German Communists cosying up to Hitler in the 1930s

  2. somehistory says

    Feb 19, 2015 at 11:43 pm

    A muslim man watching her talk without the scarf hiding her face and head might be provoked. Would she consider what she is doing to be an act of provocation?

    • Alissa says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 12:40 am

      Excellent point! Stunned, stubborn, sanctimonious liberals are the biggest threat to our survival. Out of touch with reality. Obsessed with their own self-righteousness. Opposing everything and anything that western societies stand for because it makes them feel superior. They are truly nauseating.

      • Scott says

        Feb 20, 2015 at 4:12 am

        Totally agree! I cannot understand what makes them ‘tick’. Weird, dangerous people.

        • G. Hardy says

          Feb 20, 2015 at 10:30 am

          Wait a moment! There are many many sensible British people who are fed up to the back teeth with Islam and political correctness.
          We feel sandwiched between Akhbar and Gay-bar, and that is one hell (literally) of a sandwich! We want our country back, and we’re voting UKIP. It’s not perfect, and it doesn’t really get the Islamic menace, but it’s a step…

    • Art says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 9:06 am

      And would a woman wearing a burka be provocative as well? Why not?

      • The Doctor says

        Feb 20, 2015 at 9:39 am

        Because a woman in a burqa looks like a tied-up bin bag.

  3. dsinc says

    Feb 19, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    Doesn’t the interviewer know that, in Islam, breathing whilst Jewish is a provocation?

    Ban Islam, our future is at stake.

  4. Kevin Walker says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 12:16 am

    “Wearing yarmulke was an act of provocation.”
    Further proof how intolerant these ‘moderate mohammedans” are.

  5. Buraq says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 12:53 am

    If a black person had been assaulted by racists, would anyone ask if being black was a provocation?

    She’s a clown!

    • Mark says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 3:29 am

      Will she ask a Muslima if wearing a hijab is an act of provocation? Or a Muslim wearing a turban or taqiyah? I very much doubt it.

  6. katnis says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 1:11 am

    i’d like to propose “yarmulke” month for all non-Jews as an act of solidarity with our Jewish friends and neighbors. As an act of humanitarianism, I see it a fitting move.

    And in response to the comment that wearing the yarmulke as an act of provocation…. NO.

    • Geoff Miller says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 4:16 am

      I’d support that. I already wear an IDF wristband.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 22, 2015 at 8:24 am

      Yes,

      Or “don the Star of David”.

      That’s what I do. I started a couple of years ago. I thought – as I could see the rising antisemitism, a lot of it driven by the Muslims – that I needed to do something, some small thing, to show solidarity with the Jews and with Israel. So I got a star of David pendant (I’m female, so a pendant works for me) and decided to wear it every Saturday – i.e. every Sabbath. Six days – Sunday-Friday – I wore my Cross (I’m a Christian) and on Saturday I would swap it for the Star of David.

      Then around the time of the last Gaza skirmish I thought it was time to make the statement a bit stronger and a bit more often, so now I wear the Cross and the Star turn and turn about: Star of David one day, my little cross the next.

      The part of Australia I go about in is not heavily Islamised; you see a few hijabettes in the local shopping centre now and again, and that’s about it. So when people notice what I’m wearing it’s more of a ‘conversation starter’ with uninformed non-Muslim Aussies, than anything else.

      It would be a different story, I suspect, if I were in certain other parts of some Australian cities, or on any University campus; there, I’d have to think hard and take a deep breath every time I picked the Star of David up off the bedside table to put it on. And that in itself is a sign of how bad things are becoming, in those particular places. Any Gentile Friend of Israel who, deciding to visibly don some symbol of Jews or of Israel, in solidarity, and wear it in public, finds themselves hesitating to do so, has just gotten the very smallest, tiniest hint of what it must be like for Jews in so many, many places, nowadays.

      I think, in the more dangerous places, where there has been open hostility – such as some university campuses in various parts of the Western world – it would be necessary for the Friends of Zion to get together, and to consult with the Jews there, beforehand, to get a sense of what would be the best way to demonstrate solidarity …not only as a one-off thing, such as a “kippah walk” or “star of david” walk or “carry the flag of Israel” walk, but as an ongoing effort.

  7. Green Infidel says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 2:13 am

    “Religions should be respected… except if it’s a religion that teaches you to kill, or not accept other religions…” (2:00)

    Looks like this Zionist “gets it” about the Religion of Peace, and is using coded language that the clueless liberal interviewer fails to pick up on!

  8. Baucent says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 2:15 am

    The interviewer is troubled by the uncomfortable fact that Muslims in Paris are clearly and obviously anti-semitic. By suggesting the man’s walk through muslim areas looking like a Jew, was “provocative” means she thinks Jews should not have the freedom to walk anywhere in Paris. Where is her indignation that a man has been abused and spat on simply because of his religion? Hasn’t she been listening to Obama? “No one should be targeted simply because of their religion” (Chapel Hill murders) But of course he was only referring to muslims.

  9. sencit says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 3:21 am

    A provocation? Yet wearing a hideous black bag with slits for the eyes is not? What a peculiar time we live in.!

  10. Julia says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 3:31 am

    This guy is a hero. I wish more Jewish people would expose anti-Antisemitism wherever it rears its ugly head. And, the anchor who asked him if being himself in public was “provocative” should lose her job.

  11. Paula Boddington says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 3:38 am

    She tries to put words into his mouth, tries to make out that he’s making definite claims that he knows ‘for a fact’ that the Jews are treated worse than others, which he is not saying – a typical ploy so that she can then imply a criticism for overstating things.
    Provocation? How ridiculous. And incidentally, you could try walking around Paris as a young woman. In certain areas, you’d also get horrible responses on the streets. I found this recently with my teenage daughter – even walking along with me right by her side, she had constant unpleasant comments and unpleasant aggressive attention from men. Not in all areas of Paris, however, but in some pretty central areas, it was really uncomfortable. I would definitely not let her go out alone. (Yet when I was the same age, I went to Paris with a friend and we had no trouble at all.)
    Now, why do I mention this? Not to detract from the observations about Jewish people, but to support them. It’s not a competition out there to see who is most abused – nobody should have to put up with this. But debates nearly always degenerate to this – if you say one group gets trouble, then immediately someone else says that other groups get trouble too (so implied ‘what are you whining about?’. What does this move achieve? Two wrongs don’t make a right – EVEN IF women in burkas get trouble, that does not mean that a Jewish person’s trouble is less. It’s irrelevant. BUT, what these sort of remarks do do, is defect attention from analysing WHY there is trouble for different groups of people. We just get left with ‘minorities get shit’, and from that, a moronic unthinking uncritical simplistic view of what is going on.
    If you want to address any social issue, you need to look in detail at the complex causation of exactly what is going on in different cases. But over and over and over all the media does is reduce it to some simplistic analysis which blocks any real thinking on the issue. The ‘media sound bite’ formula does not help. But I’m starting to wonder if these people like this interviewer really are stupid. I honestly don’t know.

  12. G179 says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 3:41 am

    It’s not just the “provocation” question (which is incredibly rude), it is her desperate and relentless effort to put a negative spin on this guy’s very simple and evident point. I have no explanation for this behaviour but a serious mental illness or being an antisemitic wolf in a sheep’s clothing.

  13. marx says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 4:02 am

    Just one question ,I see many well educated people on the subject of islam and jihad but only here ,why are you guys here and not over there ?!! why aren’t you active on social media ?!! you should take the fight out there ,The internet and social media are big force and you should know how to mobilize it .

    • cs says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 8:41 am

      I am active in social media, I encourage everyone to do the same, I expend more than 2 hours debating in many sites, spreading this knowledge.

  14. Crixus says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 4:37 am

    I saw the live broadcast of this interview. Her immediate whataboutary question had me swearing so loudly at the telly my wife told me off for language in front of the kids .

    An earlier article had the Dhimmi Keith Vaz discussing the jailing of a muslimic would be murderer during a 5 minute interview the words Islam and Muslim weren’t mentioned once including a laughable attempt by Vaz to emphasise he came out with ‘individual whose beliefs are far from compatible with our own beliefs’

    Unbelievable

  15. cs says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 5:20 am

    Please leave a repudiation message at the discussion part, that is how wars are won.

  16. Barnaby says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 5:31 am

    She actually asks if the video is a provocation, not the act of a Jew walking in Paris. The question is quite legitimate as what she’s essentially asking is, is it a provocation to condense 10 hours into 90 seconds to portray Muslims as anti–Semitic bigots?

    • cs says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 6:30 am

      No it is pointless. 1 min 30 sec of insults is too much, I did not had any of this in 5 years, why he should in 10 hours. The question is biased. Nazi like.

    • Paul 2 says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 7:19 am

      Isn’t that what TV news is about? One can say the same thing about how they constanly condense the complicated Israel/Arab conflict into biased video clips suggesting Israel is to blame.

    • Champ says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 2:41 pm

      Wow that’s some twisted logic you’ve got goin’ on there “Barnaby”!

    • Januk36 says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 5:20 pm

      Barnaby, I agree. While I found the way questions where asked biased it’s legitimate to ask about the motives. Personally, I would have expected worse reactions and more within 5 hours of walking.

      Still, even if the 90 seconds documents all that happened during these hours the effect of daily abuse, even for a few minutes would be devastating.

  17. Peggy says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 5:43 am

    Maybe someone should ask if walking through London or Paris or anywhere civilized wearing a tent is provocation.
    Only the Muslims can wear their garb and the rest should just get out of the way.

  18. Tony says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 5:47 am

    Channel four in their recent anti UKIP dramitised “documentary” ,had a group of “far right” protesters protesting against a leftist anti UKIP government group protesting against measures they brought in , & the only flag the “right wingers” were flying was the Israeli flag .
    I belive the programme was called ” UKIP the first 100 days “

  19. john thomas says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 6:01 am

    Oh dear. We had all better watch out. A St. Christopher statue in the car, a cross round your neck, a Union Flag on your car. Parking your car outside a church or synagogue or even being seen therein entering. Where will it end?

  20. BC says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 6:10 am

    Wearing the clothing of a religion that is dedicated to destroying Western civilisation is a provocation also.
    Not to mention carrying placards demanding sharia law

  21. cheesecake says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 6:26 am

    Not being a Muslim is a provocation to Muslims. channel 4 far left when it comes to hatred of the British they make the BBC seem tame. A Muslim being upset is a lot worse than say the thousands of British children raped and abused by Muslim men?

  22. El says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 6:56 am

    Do not be suprised that the cancer of modern dhimmitude comes from the UK, after all cultural Marxism and the cancer of political correctness was born there aswell!

  23. Angemon says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 7:04 am

    and ended up asking him if walking through Paris wearing a yarmulke was an “act of provocation.”

    Oh, for f***’s sake. He’s well in his right to wear whatever he wants, as long as he’s not breaking the law of the land. He’s not responsible for other people’s reactions, is he?

    And what exactly is a “provocation”? Is there some sort of test we can run something through to unmistakably identify it as a provocation? Of course not – what constitutes a “provocation” is, many times, in the eye of the beholder, and it’s often context-dependent.

    Finally, the hostess had the gal to try to make a false moral equivalence by asking if a muslima walking around wearing a hijab would be met with the same reaction. I bet that, had that been the case, she wouldn’t dream to ask such a thing. I bet she’d instead stress how “bigoted” and “racist” the Parisians were for insulting someone for their perceived religion.

  24. cs says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 7:15 am

    Please send complains to Channel 4, it takes only a minute, it is very important, it does matter.

    http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/contact-us

  25. Roderick MacUalraig says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 8:52 am

    To all those who believe Allah gives you permission to brutalize and enslave human beings, we’re coming for you.

    • CGW says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 10:03 am

      That’s my man.

      • RKM says

        Feb 20, 2015 at 10:02 pm

        OO-RAH!

      • Roderick MacUalraig says

        Feb 21, 2015 at 1:11 am

        And I hope you’re doing well, and staying warm this winter.

        R/ Mac

  26. DAvid says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:31 am

    Even here, in Brazil, there are antisemitic acts. It is only the beggining, but my wife has been harrassed
    many times in the streets because she uses a “chai” symbol on her necklace.
    And more, mosques are spreading around in big and small cities and our government has allowed an embassy in Brasilia for the so called “Palestinian State”.
    I have a T.Shirt with IDF written on it and people look at it strangely. Is it an act of provocation?
    Jews must leave Eurabia quickly. Move elsewhere, Israel or any other country where antisemitic is not still so overt.

    • cs says

      Feb 20, 2015 at 3:20 pm

      Yep, I defended Israel in a lefty forum there, I although people know me, they teared me out, even as I won the debate against 200 of them.
      I want to return but I am weary, it will be a pain in the ass having to fight every day with my fellow country man with their mad defense of fakestinians.

  27. Sheri says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 9:42 am

    It’s getting dangerous to walk anywhere if your a Jew or a Christian.

  28. Paul says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 11:04 am

    Where does this nonsense end? Once all the Jews have been driven out, then
    one day it’ll be a question of “provocation” when the rest of the ‘infidels’ have the
    cheek to be seen walking around with their heads still attached to their bodies.
    Just keep feeding that insatiable crescent moon crocodile you Channel 4 dickhead.

    • Moshe Akiva says

      Feb 22, 2015 at 12:29 am

      Paul, the Jewish filmmaker should have said what you wrote here.

  29. Paul says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 11:45 am

    Please give her the reward for most stupid commentator questions of the year.

    • Moshe Akiva says

      Feb 22, 2015 at 12:30 am

      Paul, she is not stupid, she is evil.

  30. Michael Warden says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 11:45 am

    ” First of all they came for the Socialists ……. ”

    Silly stupid bitch. But them it was Channel 4.

  31. Proud English Infidel says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    Typical C4. Wonder if they will make a programme showing the persecution of Christians in muslim lands?
    I won’t hold my breath……..

  32. Bhartiya says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    Such an arrogant , biased interview.

    I would like to point out to this horrible anchor on provocation logic, a woman in bikini is provacating rape?

  33. voegelinian says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    I don’t know much about the British telly scene; I found it somewhat surprising that Spencer characterized Channel 4 as “hideously compromised”, seeing as only a few years ago Channel 4 produced (twice) a series extremely valuable for the Counter-Jihad — the “Undercover Mosque” reports which, ironically, were a similar information-gathering operation as this “Jew-walking” one, only even more comprehensive and revealing about Islamic extremism in the heart of supposedly moderate milieus. (And not only did Channel 4 produce those “Undercover Mosque” reports, but they also fought legally against the police oversight that had distorted their films through censorship — a degree of government intrusion that apparently is the norm in the UK, but which will surprise American readers.)

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/11/undercover-mosque-director-considers-legal-action-against-police-and-prosecutor-who-alleged-the-show

    • Mirren10 says

      Feb 22, 2015 at 1:56 pm

      ”I don’t know much about the British telly scene; I found it somewhat surprising that Spencer characterized Channel 4 as “hideously compromised”, seeing as only a few years ago Channel 4 produced (twice) a series extremely valuable for the Counter-Jihad — the “Undercover Mosque” reports … ”

      Yes, they did, and kudos to them for that. However, in my opinion, Channel 4 *is* very biased, generally towards the Left. Jon Snow, in particular, is very biased against Israel, and pro-‘palestinian’.

      They have just produced a so-called ‘docu-drama’, purporting to show what Britain would be like under a UKIP government; according to this, UKIP are basically fascists who will ‘destroy diversity’, etc, etc. They’re taking a lot of flak for it.

      http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/feb/17/channel-4-ukip-first-100-days-docudrama-complaints-ofcom

  34. M S case says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    So….besides freedom of speech being attacked now it’s what you wear……….WOW!!!!

  35. Anglojew says

    Feb 20, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    She frames every question as a justification for Muslim antisemitism.

    Dressing Jewish is a provacation.

    Muslims are also harrassed. As if two wrongs make a right. By this flawed logic Jews have every right to harass Muslims.

    Also she implies Zionists deserve attacks.

    Notice her logic is the same as Sharia in nature when they argue women who aren’t in veils are provoking rape by Muslims.

    • el-cid says

      Feb 21, 2015 at 11:30 am

      The point of the Jihadist argument is to use our tolerance as a sword against us. There is no underlying agreement with tolerance as a value or goal.

      Learn the tactic, and don’t get pulled into it. It is an attack, pure and simple.

  36. el-cid says

    Feb 21, 2015 at 11:28 am

    Yes it was a provocation. As a friend of mine said, “my crime is being publicly black”.

    Well, his crime was being publicly “Jewish”.

    I was surprised that he was not attacked. Very tolerant in Europe, no?

  37. M S case says

    Feb 21, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    If she walked through a predominately muslim community she might be on the slave block.

  38. Linde Barrera says

    Feb 22, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    I wish somebody in authority from my country’s White House would call it like it is: “Let’s stop suckling up to these Islamic terrorist pussies.”

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