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UK’s first anti-Islamization rally dwarfed by counter-demo

Feb 28, 2015 12:51 pm By Robert Spencer

Smash PegidaBritain is finished. When defenders of free society against Islamization are dismissed as “right-wing nutters” and “fascists,” and the counter-demo is over five times larger, and when the government routinely allows foreign jihadis to enter the country but bans counter-jihadis solely for the crime of speaking the truth about Islam and jihad, Britain as a free nation is in its last days. Will there be a mass exodus of non-Muslim refugees from Britain when Sharia supremacists really start to flex their muscles? And where will they go?

“UK’s first ‘anti-Islamisation’ rally dwarfed by counter-demo,” AFP, February 28, 2015 (thanks to Bill):

An estimated 375 people turned out for the Germany-based PEGIDA movement’s first demonstration in Britain on Saturday, but were outnumbered by a 2,000-strong crowd of counter-protesters, police said.

PEGIDA has drawn large crowds in Germany to protest against what it calls the “Islamisation” of Europe, and small demonstrations have also taken place in Austria and Sweden.

Police in the city of Newcastle, northeast England, said five men were arrested during the day’s events but insisted these were isolated incidents, and said both the PEGIDA march and the Newcastle Unites protest passed off smoothly.

It was not clear from which sides the five arrested men came from. Their alleged offences included assault, being drunk and disorderly, and breach of the peace.

Extra police had been deployed in the city, which was also hosting a Premier League football match between Newcastle United and Aston Villa, and had kept the two sides apart.

One steward said there was a brief scuffle involving members of far-right groups which temporarily damaged PEGIDA’s PA system, but no wider disturbances.

“Both demonstrations passed without any problems,” Police Chief Superintendent Laura Young said.

PEGIDA’s spokeswoman in Britain, Marion Rogers, earlier insisted that the group was not racist or against Muslims.

It’s about integration. We are not anti-Islam. We are not here to split up any communities,” she told the BBC.

“We’ve invited Muslims to join us against extremism, extremism of any kind. I don’t think it’s wrong to stand up to terrorism. Is that hate?”

PEGIDA — which stands for the Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the West — drew up to 25,000 people in German street rallies last month.

Among those attending the counter-rally in Newcastle was left-wing firebrand lawmaker George Galloway.

“It is absolutely extraordinary that a German organisation sets up in the UK — it’s not as if there is a lack of right-wing nutter organisations here,” he said beforehand.

“They have got to be opposed, wherever they are.”…

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  1. terry says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    I said it before, that the west, as it stands right now, is a lost case!

  2. marc says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    “One steward said there was a brief scuffle involving members of far-right groups which temporarily damaged PEGIDA’s PA system, but no wider disturbances.”
    PEGIDA doesn’t have much of a chance in the UK, they are attacked by both sides, by the neo nazis for being inclusive, and the government funded antifa who support islamofacism regardless of reality.

  3. Gareth says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    Galloway might as well be a Muslim anyway.
    Glad it went peaceful and hope there are more in the coming months

    • Richie says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 4:15 pm

      I think its well known secret George Galloway is a Muslim

    • cs says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 4:18 pm

      He is a muzzie.

      • Brian Hoff says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 4:38 pm

        He is Rome Cathority , not all Christian are hater of muslim or Islam like you.

        • KrazyKafir says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 5:00 pm

          He’s a quisling dhimmi who if he lives long enough for the civil wars won’t be forgotten.

        • occupant 9 says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 6:25 pm

          So, Brian, you’re either a knee-jerk Leftist who knows nothing about Islam or a Muslim who wants free people to know nothing about Islam.

          Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what you say since as free people, we can inform ourselves without the hand-holding Leftists need in order to think the “correct” things, which are as incorrect as can be.

          Being against Islam is the proper historical stance for free people if only you could fathom such a position.

        • duh_swami says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 7:59 pm

          Defender…Several years ago you were looking for a bride…Did Allah ever bless you with a wife or 4? I would think that after years of faithful service and prayers that Allah would reward you with marital bliss. If not, it’s probably because Allah can’t find a woman to match your lofty standards. The last thing you need is a wife with low standards…

        • cs says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 8:39 pm

          He converted to Islam silly cunt.

    • Softly Bob says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 6:34 pm

      Galloway almost certainly is a Muslim. He was raised as a Catholic but he seems to have abandoned that years ago.
      Galloway has a Muslim wife, does not drink alcohol and has said quote “there is one god, there is one Islam, there is one Q’uran” unquote. He hangs around with Muslims, hates Israel and when asked about his religious beliefs always tells people that it is none of their business.

      • cs says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 8:40 pm

        He has converted already.

  4. joeb says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    to be fair to the demonstrators, if people didn’t think they might be beaten up or murdered, more would have turned up.

    but once the islamic terrorist attacks start again, when many more non-muslims die in the UK, then I imagine these demonstrations will be somewhat busier.

  5. pongidae rex says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Europe has been attempting to commit suicide for over a century. Two world wars did not do the trick, but it looks like ‘multiculturalism’ involving Islam will be the end of the experiment that was Western Civilization.

  6. FarmerMike says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    I’m in Ohio, inconveniently located to attend a rally in the UK. But I’ll show up for one in this part of the world.

    Meanwhile, I’m sending in more “Impeach Obama”emails to my Congress Critters, trying to “body slam” Congress between Netanyahu who will be speaking up front, and me and….who else wants to join me?…from the hinterland.

    We JW Bloggers must stop being mere spectators & commentators, if we want to make a difference!

    Democracy should be a participatory activity–not just spectators-lobbing–comments kind of activity! Right?

    Who will email with me? Who will join the next area protest, too?

    • Dag says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 3:30 pm

      Mike, I appreciate your efforts to organise on the ground. Friends and I held public meetings in Vancouver, Canada for about five years or more, and though we had guests from around the world join us on occasion, seldom did we ever have more than six or seven people in attendence at one time.

      Neverrtheless, it was a dynamic time and those who attended over the years became far greater for it than would have been the case had we all sat home alone complaining on the Internet. I suggest that you pick up where we left off, and I wish you better luck.

      I live in the Amazon jungle of Peru at this time, still not far enough away from the Left fascism of the north to satisfy me, but there is little better choice. Living in the jungle allows me the time to write books I probably would not otherwise write. My most recent effort is written, as I claim, in the ancient Polish language of Samizdat. Even here in the jungle I must face the corruption of Left fascist censorship. Nothing is easy.

      If and when my latest book, Snootoms, comes out, I will announce it here first.

      Meanwhile, good luck to you.

    • Rob says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 3:30 pm

      Well I’m not in UK or US but boy do we need some action from both.
      ‘Bama is a lame duck and desperately needs a legacy. He wants Cuba and Iran as feathers in his cap.
      He’ll get (has got) Cuba, but he hates the the thought that Bibi is raining on his Iran fantasy.

  7. Always On Watch says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    The UK is finished as a Western nation. The demographics (Muslim demographics) will seal the deal for at least a century to come.

    Other Western nations who will not stand up against the threat of Islam will suffer the same fate. This could happen here in the United States, too. I just hope to God that the United Islamic States of America doesn’t arrive before I die.

  8. Legion says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    What’s happening in The West is exactly the same thing as the Germanization of the Western Roman Empire.

    • Wellington says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 2:00 pm

      Except, Legion, that the Germans eventually became civilized and ended up contributing a great deal to Western Civilization. No such possibility with the Muzzies who will not only not contribute anything to Western Civilization but will, if given free rein, parasitically feed off of it before destroying it. Hell, they’ve already started doing exactly this.

      • bobm says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 3:36 pm

        Indeed wellington.

      • Demsci says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 8:32 pm

        I totally agree, Wellington.

        I think that the Anglo Saxon England, the Frankish empire, Visigothic Spain, Ostrogothic Italy, perhaps even Vandal North Africa, were already or on their way to be fine states in their time.

  9. Neil Jennison says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    It seems to me the counter demonstration consisted mostly of Muslims and their usual leftist and lunatic supporters like Galloway.

    Lefty rent-a-mob.

  10. mortimer says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    I don’t think this is the end, but merely the beginning. Islam is steadily being revealed. We are on the way to an awakening. British Marxists do not represent the entire country.

    • Always On Watch says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 2:23 pm

      Mortimer,
      I hope you’re right!

    • Wellington says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 6:51 pm

      Seconding Always On Watch, I too hope you’re right, mortimer. Actually, I think you are but, damn, it’s going to be a close call. Still, I remain cautiously optimistic long term.

      One thing’s for cetain and that is that Islam will continue to have the advantage in the West until it is no longer considered or described as something good, including by the still clueless Western elites. This is the sine qua non event which has to occur so that Islam does not prevail in destroying the “best of the West.” Unless Islam is viewed as the deep negative which it is, all other efforts, even at their optimal, will still be piecemeal efforts.

      • Always On Watch says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 6:59 pm

        Wellington,
        Unless Islam is viewed as the deep negative which it is, all other efforts, even at their optimal, will still be piecemeal efforts.

        I see a bit of the tide turning — but not in academia or in the mainstream media.

        We need more than pockets of awakening.

        Meanwhile, another generation is growing up in classrooms all over the West and believing that Islam is essentially good, a force for good. Hell, their teachers and even their parents believe the same!

        Many of these young people don’t use the web for information gathering (research), but instead are worrying about what color some damn dress is (yesterday’s Internet frenzy).

        Very hard to combat this tide, and I fear that these young people are being neurologically imprinted.

      • Demsci says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 8:51 pm

        //”Unless Islam is viewed as the deep negative which it is, all other efforts, even at their optimal, will still be piecemeal efforts.”//

        Yes, Islam is a negative to us, so what lacks in the West is, it seems to me, a positive alternative to Islam. I mean, why can’t we be proud, patriotic about our Western history, enlightenment, principles, constitution and laws? Even IF our own people, media and especially politicians, and elite are shown to be fallible humans, not always as moral as we like them to be. But still, can there be any question that the democratic system is the best found system yet? This IS the positive alternative to Islam.

        In PEGIDA the P stands for Patriotic. I propose that Western citizens evolve towards a group of people that call themselves something like APDC’s; Accountable Patriotic (or Proud) Democratic Citizens. Who are accountable on supporting Democratic principles, Human Rights, Golden Rule.

        We should consider eventually our own laws about freedom of religion. When we can finally establish/ prove/ opine that the Quran-Sunnah are “fatally, irresponsibly, criminally, recklessly” Ambiguous, Vague, Incomplete, Obsolete, Contradictory (something David Wood showed),

        with dreadful consequences among it’s followers, as shown by ISIS and countless terrorist acts in the name of Islam,

        THEN we can start a thought-process, a reasonable and legal process to finally prohibit unaltered Islam, not so much as a totalitarian ideology, but irresponsibly prone to interpreting it as one.

        But, like Mayor Aboutaleb showed, and president Al Sisi demanded, there is another interpretation of Quran-Sunnah possible and that could be compatible to democracy and fall under freedom of religion. Well, let us put pressure on the Muslims AND their political correct helpers (Policors) by demanding this ostensibly possible more democratic interpretation.

        This is about reasonable pressure on Muslims and policors, not about some “fairyland pipedream”.

        I know it is a farfetched solution, but this is about a very vexed question, which is very hard to resolve in our democratic system, with its freedom of religion and sense of fair play all over.

  11. eib says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    How German is PEGIDA? I have tremendous contempt for those who define this organization only in terms of its origin and refuse to look at its agenda. The ANTIFA Brits have shown marked stupidity year after year.

  12. Don McKellar says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    That there was an anti-Islamization rally of any size in the first place is only a first step on a journey of a thousand miles. It is a miracle in itself.

    What is not a miracle is that the Islamic supremacists and their useful idiot left-fascist allies, have managed to produce such a large thuggish force to try and stamp out the voices for freedom.

    This George Galloway is one incredible retard, isn’t he? Clearly he has no idea of what he’s defending and advancing. Absolutely clueless and a hypocritical xenophobe who doesn’t even realize he’s a xenophobe! Look at his statement:

    “It is absolutely extraordinary that a German organisation sets up in the UK — it’s not as if there is a lack of right-wing nutter organisations here.” George Galloway.

    In George Galloway’s fevered little peanut brain, Germans are right-wing nutters. No doubt when he looked at these freedom loving marchers, he imagined they wore swastikas and were goose-stepping. This George Galloway needs to be wrestled into a straitjacket and put away for a few years of psychiatric treatment. That much is clear.

    • cs says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 4:21 pm

      HE is not retarded, he is perverse.

  13. MKG says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    I don’t know about Britton, but our constitution provides freedom of religion and freedom from religion by separation of church and state. It is easy for muslims to get a large crowd together, especially on Friday. Where as westerners by the very idea of our sense of individuality, we tend to have trouble uniting on these issues. Americans do have one major uniting force. That is our constitution and our flag as an icon. We can stand and say, “you can have your religion, but how dare you impose your religion upon us.” This very simple idea should suffice in stopping sharia law if only people would accept their constitutional rights. Your constitutional rights are there folks. All you have to do is accept them, and support and defend them as many have done before you.

    • Western Canadian says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 1:46 am

      Your constitution prohibits the federal government from interfering with churches in any state, and does NOT include any reference to separation of church and state.

      • MKG says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 3:16 pm

        Separation of church and state includes all forms of government and does not distinguish between federal and state or local governments.

  14. Noemie says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    Let’s wait for the next elections. There are plenty of people throughout Europe who do not take part in demos but who will make their vote count.

    To all the readers outside Europe: you are seriously underestimating the anger of the native Europeans and how out of touch our political leaders are with the reality on the ground. The insanity of political correctness stops us expressing our views publicly but that doesn’t mean people aren’t getting ready to fight back.

    • MKG says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 3:13 pm

      Thanks Noemie, that’s what we need to hear. We don’t see it in the media, but we can see it under the surface. The same goes for America. Good luck.

    • Januk36 says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 5:05 pm

      I agree with those who complain about signs of defeatism and share the frustration of many in Europe about this incredible PC-brainwash.

      I realise that many on this site are religious. Whatever the future will bring I just want to point out that a large proportion in (Western-) Europe are nominal christians at best. Should thing turn really sour don’t expect christian values to prevail and I wouldn’t be surprised if another bout of barbarism will sweep the continent off islam.

      Don’t expect anybody to offer the other cheek.

      Greece has been given economically air to breath for the next month. People in Germany are p….d off to see their wealth wasted for nothing. Seems off topic, but see what happens to islamisation, should the EU start to fall apart.

      Then again, it is still possible that Barack Hussein Obama manages the start WWIII. Good idea to have US troops parading in Estland at spitting distance from Russia. Do you remember ? Lost the arms race but not the capacity to obliterate the world a few times over. Don’t think that Obamas Saudi Lords would object to that scenario. Kufars nuking each other out of existence. …

  15. Gary says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    And the Muslim community continues to spin it’s wheels……….

    “For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.”

    Romans 10:2-4

    Excerpt From: “Holy Bible (NIV), Red Letter Edition.”

    • bobm says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 3:34 pm

      yes and amen Gary.

  16. ECAW says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    It is foolish of Robert Spencer to say Britain is finished. The struggle has hardly started yet and come to that, where are the comparable demonstrations in America? If they happened at all they would also be swamped by leftists.

    Apart from that it is damaging to repeat such defeatist sentiments, but not surprising from someone who rubbishes the only significant group who have been trying to do the same thing for years, the EDL. I think he clearly has some anti-British animus that goes beyond our current situation. He appears to be the Joe Kennedy of the counter-jihad movement.

    • Robert Spencer says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 3:12 pm

      ECAW

      Joe Kennedy?

      Britain is finished.

      Cheers,
      RS

      • ECAW says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 3:24 pm

        Not a very reasoned reply.

        Joe Kennedy was the American ambassador to Britain in 1940 who advised Roosevelt to forget Britain because they were finished. I know the British people of today are wildly different from then – confused, demoralised, lacking in leadership – but I do not give up hope, which is exactly what I would do if I accepted your estimation.

        • Don McKellar says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 3:33 pm

          I don’t see one damn tiny bit of commonality between the bootleg criminal womanizing nazi-backing Joe Kennedy and Robert Spencer in any way, shape, or form. What kind of drugs are you smoking, ECAW?

          Robert Spencer is in despair over the downfall of the UK as a free nation. Joe Kennedy saw backing the UK against the fight with the nazis as conflicting with his business interests. ECAW you are one incredible idiot.

        • Kepha says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 4:04 pm

          Joe Kennedy also hated Britain for reasons similar to those of the O. For Bootlegger Joe, Britain was the land of the Hates Saxon, that evil oppressor of the poor, suffering Old Sod of Ireland; just as the O sees Britannia as the evil oppressor of the noble Mau-Mau.

        • ECAW says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 2:11 am

          Don McKellar – No not a shred of commonality apart from his prematurely writing off Britain, partly inspired by personal ill feeling.

          Did you imagine I was suggesting Spencer is a bootlegger?
          What a berk you are.

      • Brian Hoff says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 5:22 pm

        After UK withdraw from europe after Dunkirk some germany airforce general with they chief tour the area than notice how much heavy weapon they left behind include 50,000 truks and other vessels. They want to mount than airborn attack on South East UK to caputice airfield to bring in 5 Mountrain Divisons an landed Me 109 figher and drive bomder at the captive flields. The UK army was disorgiinize demortalism than lacking of heavy weapon in many case lacking rifles where in no sphape to fight the homegruad would stand up either. Hitler turn the idear down as being too riskly. The air born operation was plan to take place in the next 24 to 48 hour. Than air marchel from the battle of britian said the germany have than very hight to succed.

        • Angemon says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 5:30 pm

          Brian Hoff posted:

          “After UK withdraw from europe”

          The UK is part of Europe. It can’t “withdraw” from it anymore than China can “withdraw” from Asia.

          “after Dunkirk some germany airforce general with they chief tour the area than notice how much heavy weapon they left behind include 50,000 truks”

          “truks”? Is that a misspelling of “turks” or “trucks”?

          “and other vessels. They want to mount than airborn attack on South East UK to caputice airfield to bring in 5 Mountrain Divisons an landed Me 109 figher and drive bomder at the captive flields. The UK army was disorgiinize demortalism than lacking of heavy weapon in many case lacking rifles where in no sphape to fight the homegruad would stand up either. Hitler turn the idear down as being too riskly. The air born operation was plan to take place in the next 24 to 48 hour. Than air marchel from the battle of britian said the germany have than very hight to succed.”

          And what does that have anything to do with the matter at hand? Are you gloating because you think muslims will conquer Britain, something that Hitler tried to do but failed?

        • Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 6:03 pm

          Dear Brian Hoff,
          Your comment, although having nothing to do with Islam, looks like it might be interesting, if only I could figure out what you are trying to say. May I ask you, What is your native language? (Your extreme mispunctuation and misspellings make me suspect that your bad English is deliberate.)

        • Richie says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 6:55 pm

          wow Brian, like most hardline leftists, your ignorance is a mile wide and ten miles deep

      • cs says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 8:03 pm

        I don’t really believe we are doomed yet, it is a matter of two or three more “incidents” when you read the guardian, in the part of comments you see people, a lot of them, with similar comments that we make here. That increases in the telegraph, daily mail, and youtube social media as a whole, people are just waiting for an opportunity. I just don’t think it is time yet, but I believe when it comes, it will be serious, and probably there will be bloodshed.
        I will be honest with you guys, I think this will turn out real bad, and it will not be beautiful, but I don’t see Islam winning this, but it won’t be now, wait 5 years down the line. For now they are appeasing, at some point the appeasing will not work anymore, there will be to many corpses to be ignored, their victimizing won’t be enough, just too much shit. They will be asked, if you want to stay you behave, otherwise go.

      • Tony says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 5:56 am

        Help us then Robert, the US has allowed the bbc onto your shores a pro muslim anti democratic ,anti libertarian organisation ,
        Americans willingly fund them ,Britons are forced to by law ! it’s in the free worlds interest to bring them down, our press are too afraid of the bbc to stray too far from their worldview . I can’t believe Americans would go along with the actions of their “goons” ,I recommend viewing goon videos on youtube to see how this nasty organisation operate , will make you think of north korea .

    • Champ says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 3:17 pm

      “It is foolish of Robert Spencer to say Britain is finished.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      What’s “foolish” is to deny that he might be right!

      • ECAW says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 3:30 pm

        Yes it would be. He may be right. We will only know in time. But it is foolish to say that we ARE finished, just as it is foolish not to read the coomment properly in the first place.

        • Champ says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 3:40 pm

          You’re assuming that I did not read your comment “properly”. Of course I read your comment. Meanwhile you’re busy denying the facts on the ground–irregardless of what Robert Spencer thinks.

    • PGuud says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 5:09 pm

      Your streets should be on fire, until every single Muslim vermin has been removed from within your borders. You need to fight the traitors in your midst. Galloway, for instance–I hope the POS has a heart attack and dies. Now, that would be a good start.

      Nothing short of a civil war is going to save Britain. I don’t foresee Britons fighting for their lives–not in their current state, anyway–but I damn sure hope that I am wrong.

      Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

      • Champ says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 5:17 pm

        You need to fight the traitors in your midst.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Bravo, PGuud!!! …rather than shooting the messenger: Robert Spencer; who’s merely pointing out the obvious.

        • PGuud says

          Feb 28, 2015 at 5:28 pm

          Cheers, Champ! 🙂

    • pumbar says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 12:17 am

      Joe Kennedy. How very true. Nice one ECAW!

  17. England is finished x 2 says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    England is a divided nation “led” by those from the major parties who are too scared to face the truth, Back in 2006, the ministry of truth (led by Gordon Brown and Milderbrand), refused to allow Geert Wilders to enter Britain as they wanted to hide the truth. That was the date historians will look as the turning point in British history. This PEGIDA march is the last remnants of the dissent to islamic rule, which is all but inevitable now in England.

    High end human capital (Christians and Jews) have been leading the exodus out of Britain ever since the early 2000s…emigrating to Australia and the USA. Leaving England with nothing but low end human capital (muslims on welfare) who are there to drain the life out of the remainder of English society. England was finished in 2006, This march by PEGIDA supporters is a step in the correct direction as it shows that those who remain still are concerned about their country. It is a measure too late to save England though.

    • cs says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 8:47 pm

      The only thing the British politicians are after is the MUSLIM VOTE, that is the only thing they care about, never seen such creepy shit.

      • Dag says

        Feb 28, 2015 at 9:06 pm

        You all seem to think it matters how others see you. Too often I read that “Conservatives must be on their best behaviour to impress the crowd that we are better than our enemies.” No, what you want is to be such evil thugs that people love you for it. Hells Angels of anti-jihad. If you try to please everybody, according to Murphey’s Law, you will piss somebody off. Don’t even try to be nice. No one will love you anyway. Be uglier that ISIS and the world will come to you crying to give you everything they have. Such is life, Cincinnatus. All that matters is what kind of man you are.

        • Always On Watch says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 6:02 am

          Dag,
          Don’t even try to be nice. No one will love you anyway.

          Been there, done that. I’ve become even blunter than usual. Why bother doing otherwise?

  18. Rob says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    I hope you are right.

  19. Don McKellar says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    I was getting my tires changed earlier in the week and a TV was on with news about Jihad John. The manager/owner of the shop was in the lobby pacing and furious! He was angry as hell about Obama refusing to name Islamic terrorists as Islamic. And this is in Canada in a major city! One can imagine how many furious people there are in the UK about that retard Cameron and his line of bullshit. They aren’t the kind of people who will go to rallies and march in the street. They’ll scream at their TV set like this man was. And when they get a chance, if there’s anybody who is on the ballot who is actually being honest and telling it like it is about Islam — they’re going to vote for them. And that’s when things will change.

    These rallies are important. This is just the first step. They’ll grow. And every time there’s a rally, the tire shop managers and all the other normal everyday folk in the UK (and elsewhere) will become more and more aware and more and more candidates will have the guts to put their hats in the ring.

  20. Angemon says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    Will there be a mass exodus of non-Muslim refugees from Britain when Sharia supremacists really start to flex their muscles? And where will they go?

    Certainly not to the US – the Obama administration seems to be focused on non-english speaking, non-white, illiterate migrants. There’s Gibraltar, but it’s kinda small. I guess Algarve (south of Portugal) is a viable hypothesis – last time I was there I felt I was in a British colony.

  21. BlueRaven says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    George Galloway said “It is absolutely extraordinary that a German organisation sets up in the UK — it’s not as if there is a lack of right-wing nutter organisations here,”

    GG is a top rate extreme leftists thug who hates Western values. He is an open supporter of Muslim Arabs. He will support anything that will raise Islamic issue and oppose anything that is anti-Islamic. There are plenty of nut-jobs that keep re-electing him.

    I agree with Robert – Britain is done. There is no hope.

  22. torino390 says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    I agree. it’s all about awareness. no one knows the truth, because unless you make an active effort to discover the truth, you will never see it on mainstream media. knowledge is absolutely key here. spread the word whenever you can. even if you are met with apathy, the truth needs to be told. we need to stand together, be united, and we can make a difference. even if we get no help from the traitors running the country. vote UKIP in March. it’s not much but it’s a start. go to any meetings and demonstrations you can. even if you offend some of your friends and family members, it’s worth the risk. don’t be a sheep, spread the word. the country depends on it. and that’s not meant to be some dramatic way to end a post, it’s the sad reality.

  23. thomas pellow says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    Supplementary.

    “Thousands protest against march of UK branch of German anti-Islam PEGIDA.

    [Excerpt]:

    “The German organisation ‘Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the West’ (PEGIDA), has for months been warning that Germany was being overrun by Muslims and held marches mostly in the city of Dresden.
    “It has tried to spread to other cities and countries with limited success. Although in Britain the local branch has had little exposure in the national media, the Facebook page of PEGIDA United Kingdom shows it has had over 17,000 “‘ikes’.
    “Fears that anti-Islam sentiment is growing in Britain have intensified as violence by Islamist militants in the Middle East dominate the headlines and after actual and threatened attacks in Europe.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-2973740/Thousands-protest-against-march-UK-branch-German-anti-Islam-PEGIDA.html#ixzz3T4lIVT7i

  24. thomas pellow says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    Supplementary.

    “German-based anti-Islam group PEGIDA holds first rally in Britain, drawing hundreds of demonstrators”

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/world/German+based+anti+Islam+group+PEGIDA+holds+first+rally/10851779/story.html?

  25. joeb says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    I think it will be at least another five years or so of appeasement and crawling before anything constructive is even attempted by government in the UK. That will only come after many people have been killed in islamic terrorist attacks.

    There simply haven’t been enough people killed yet for them to deem it necessary to do anything.

  26. thomas pellow says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    “Pegida say ‘a thousand’ extra supporters didn’t make Newcastle rally due to transport problems”

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/pegida-say-a-thousand-extra-8741998?

  27. Richie says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    The UK and Sweden are lost causes, they have both forsaken their own cultures and surrendered to islam. There may yet be hope of resistance in other parts of Europe

  28. Brian Hoff says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    Not it the mosque say there is than rally against Israel doing genode in Gazze than 20 people show up the mosque isnot in touble as mosque and muslim have freedom of speech also. Unlike you Islamophobia rightwinger.

    • Aardvark says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 5:04 pm

      You make less sense every time you post, Defender.

    • Angemon says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 5:17 pm

      Brian Hoff posted:

      “Not it the mosque say there is than rally against Israel doing genode in Gazze than 20 people show up the mosque isnot in touble”

      If there’s a mosque saying that there’s a genocide going on in Gaza, that’s no different in nature from the nazi anti-semitic propaganda, and it should be prosecuted as such.

      “as mosque and muslim have freedom of speech also. Unlike you Islamophobia rightwinger.”

      Notice the dissonance: Brian Hoff claims that spreading blood libel against Israel is OK under free speech, but pointing out that a mosque is promoting anti-semitic hate propaganda is, according to him, “islamophobia” and not covered by free-speech.

    • cs says

      Feb 28, 2015 at 8:42 pm

      Why shall we bow to fascism, means Islam, that Religion who is supremacist, hates women, unbelievers, gay people and so on? Do you campaign for nazis yeah?

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 4, 2015 at 12:25 am

      “Brian Hoff”—really, “DefenderofIslam”—wrote:

      …muslim have freedom of speech also. Unlike you Islamophobia rightwinger.
      ………………………………

      And the mask—such as it was with “DefenderofIslam”, in any case—comes off. He believes that Muslims should have freedom of speech, but not “Islamophobia rightwinger”. More Muslim supremacism.

  29. thomas pellow says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    Well, nearly 400 people turned out for Pegida’s first ever U.K (police restricted) demo at 11 am in Newcastle on a wintry Saturday morning– despite the heavy police presence, the intimidating ‘left-Islam’ opposition on the streets, and an unfriendly media.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Mar 2, 2015 at 7:48 am

      Exactly.

      Given all those adverse conditions, it’s actually a pretty impressive turnout. Just wait till the weather warms up a bit…

  30. les says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 6:46 pm

    When England cursed the apple of Gods eye, the Jews, they ceased to be the nation where the sun never sets on their soil. Since then they have continued to curse the Jewish people since the Belfour declaration and allowing Islam to invade their British soil to corrupt it is another act of God to those who curse His people. Gen. 12:3. Soon they won’t have a Briton but a life under Sharia law that is invading like a cancer while politicians make noise of minor things while being devoured by Islam.

  31. Always On Watch says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    We can protest in the streets till we drop, and the camaraderie is motivating and gratifying.

    But HOW do we get our political critters to enact effective anti-Islamification policy?

    • Richie says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 10:03 am

      as long as the leftists remains in political power, nothing will change. Leftist socialist governments in Europe have enabled and encouraged the mass flood of muslim immigrants into their country, and put them on welfare

      • Richie says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 10:06 am

        Typo..that’s ‘countries’. Opening the floodgates to these Muslims is a form of invasion. Most are uneducated, unskilled and contribute nothing to society- and despise the west. Obama is enabling a mass flood of unskilled and uneducated Somali Muslims into the US- many are radicals who despise the US. Or course the Christians being persecuted in the middle east are being sent to the back of the line

    • Marty says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 1:45 pm

      The steady, and quite far from slow, death of the UK is something unprecedented in modern history.
      Politicians, with a few honorable exceptions, have decided that the UK’s future is muslim.
      Much the same has been decided in Norway and France, and anyone who thinks otherwise is condemned as being “right wing”, which is in the UK a political death sentence, courtesy of the media, led by the BBC.
      To their credit, the French think they have a national culture and the courageous and non racist Marine Le Pen just might be their greatest national savior, ever.
      The UK has no permitted national culture or standard morality, we are “multicultural” which has resulted in obscenities such as muslim men claiming benefits, including housing, for up to four wives
      as “dependents”.
      In the UK there are non tax breaks for married couples, in the name of equality.
      However, married quintets get much greater allowances than couples ever did.
      As our great George Orwell observed, and he was talking of pigs, “some animals are more equal than others”.
      Our current social democrat government is vilified for being “right wing” despite the fact that immigration has gone through the roof and muslim ghettoes are a fact of all our major cities, and it is a criminal offence to read aloud Churchill’s views on Islam.

  32. Green Infidel says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    Dear Robert,

    Although I’m often frustrated with the state of Britain, having spent much of my life here, I also think it’s unfair to say that the proportions in these demos are in any way indicative of how people feel. The student & trotskyite losers marching against Pegida in Newcastle are no more representative of Britain than “Code Pink” are representative of the USA!

    I have met many people here concerned with the activities of adherents of the Religion of Peace – even if they generally don’t say much about it. It’s the big “Elephant in the room” no-one wants to discuss – possibly because they’d rather avoid problems in their jobs and careers. While such a situation is far from ideal, it also doesn’t mean that the far-leftists have any widespread sympathy. In fact, fear of potential widespread support was probably one reason for you and Pamela being denied entry. The country is like a powder keg waiting to explode, and the powers-that-be know it. Hence the desperate efforts to stop any counterjihad movement from gaining momentum… btw, there was already one movement protesting Islamisation – the EDL 🙂

    • Robert Spencer says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 12:28 am

      “It’s the big ‘Elephant in the room’ no-one wants to discuss – possibly because they’d rather avoid problems in their jobs and careers.”

      There you have it: carve that on Britain’s epitaph.

      Britain is finished as a free society. All that is left now is to chronicle its demise.

      Cordially
      Robert Spencer

      • Andrew GB says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 4:30 am

        Reluctantly (on this particular topic of the UK ‘s demise), Robert I have to agree with you.

        Politicians so far removed from society they have no idea of public opinion, do-gooders pandering to all who are not British, enforced ‘integration’ of indigenous peoples culture with polar opposite cultures, rape and abuse atrocities committed by immigrants ignored. Public apologies from the clergy for legitimate; yet assertive wartime bombing strategies.

        Since the 1980s, it has become the norm for British leaders (Thatcher apart) to shred British culture and swamp the UK with people who have no intention of integrating and contributing to the development of the UK.

        The valuable contributions of Jews, Indians; Sikhs, Hindus and west Indian Christians has been undermined by the subtle and virulent take all, contribute little attitude of the majority of muslim immigrants.

        Yes, the restraints of politicians and brow beating of do-gooders and arseholes like George Galloway are allowing the country to be raped and pillaged into an ignominious demise.

        God Save the Queen

        • mortimer says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 4:50 am

          Disagree. The British people will wake up and muddle through as they have before. Mr. Spencer, the British people are procrastinating, but they will eventually stop the madness and recover their free speech as well. The British believed the false gods of socialism and Marxism and this is where it got them…betrayed! The British people are capable of heroic effort and they will need it soon to defeat Islam finally.

        • Andrew GB says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 6:31 am

          Mortimer,

          I so hope you are right and our British reserve is put to one side whilst we reclaim the country from these hypocritical stone age hairballs.

          GStQ

        • Keith says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 7:26 am

          I don’t think the next election will see any change in the political elites attitude either. Last weekend we had the new Liberal Democrat candidate knock on our door. She thinks to criticise Islam is to criticise all muslims so I must be a bigot who deserves to be ignored. She knows all these muslims who are such wonderful people but has never opened the Qur’an or Hadith and Sira. Islam is The Religion of Peace and everyone knows it, only bigots, like us, don’t realise how wonderful Islam is. Of course anything muslims have done Christians have done even worse in the past. Then she goes on to say that she will defend our freedoms and liberties to the bitter end. HOW when she can’t even see the elephant in the room let alone talk about it unless it is to defend it.

        • Yokel says

          Mar 2, 2015 at 9:24 am

          Hktony said: the water is starting to boil

          But like the frog in the pan, few notice the need to do anything. And as I hinted in a comment above, the British State will clamp down on dissent with a fervour that few have seen. As others have noted, any dissent is currently vilified in the media. The media will have no difficulty in naming those who resist the onslaught of Islam as “Terrorists”. Let’s be realistic, folks.

      • Always On Watch says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 6:04 am

        Mr. Spencer:
        All that is left now is to chronicle its demise.

        I’m so glad that I’m as old as I am (age 63).

        • Keith says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 7:30 am

          I just feel sorry for our children, grand children and great grand children and further down the line who will be the real ones to suffer from our lack of response to Islamic hatred of everyone and their violence to get Islam into power.

      • david wilson says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 8:57 am

        Lighten up Rob, It’ll be alright honest. It’s only the start, there will be many more and it will grow. And thanks for doing the work that you are doing..

      • Richie says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 10:45 am

        The fact that quoting Churchill in public can now get one arrested in the UK is a clear sign that they may have passed a point of no return.

        • Alissa says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 1:46 pm

          Mortimer, when can you see this starting to happen. How will it happen exactly. I fear it’s been left too long. It will take a great deal of courage to turn this ship around and I don’t thing the indigenous people have the stomach for it. You will see a mass conversion to this disgusting “religion” and then life is pretty much over. There is no William Wallace’s or Winston Churchill’s or Horatio Nelson’s in the UK. Just a bunch of lazy, self-serving, gutless talkers. No action takers. If there was then the counter-protest would never have happened recently.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2015 at 1:45 pm

          Drakken wrote:

          Our democracies are at the end of their shelf lives and democracy as we know it is going to die out with either a gasping breath or a frenzy of blood lust not seen in a millennia.
          ………………………….

          That’s pretty much what Hitler said about that “nation of shop keepers”. It wasn’t true then and isn’t true now. The idea that civilized people need embrace savagery in order to oppose it is grotesque.

          It is also not true that “in times of crisis and desperation, nature always finds a way to bring the natural leaders out from the cold”—I wish it were. But the fact is that throughout history many people have rolled over in the face of barbarism. This is, in fact, exactly what happened with the indigenous people of what is now Dar-al-Islam.

          But just because I point out that resistance is not automatic does not mean I am counseling surrender—anything but. What it *will* take is resolve—sorely lacking at this point, but the British people have risen to the occasion before.

  33. duh_swami says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    In the US, the tax exempt status of Islam, should be denied on the basis that it is actually a hostile and competing political system. But I don’t expect that to happen anytime soon…

    • Always On Watch says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 5:59 am

      Duh_Swami,
      In the US, the tax exempt status of Islam, should be denied on the basis that it is actually a hostile and competing political system.

      I’ve been saying that since I came to an understanding of what Islam really is, back in December 2001: a geopolitical system.

  34. Baucent says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    PERGIDA is unneeded in the UK, they should get behind the EDL

    • Alissa says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 1:50 pm

      Apparently it is needed. The situation is so dire, don’t discourage any individual or group that has the guts to rebel publicly against this insanity. Of course, if they did join forces, all the better.

    • voegelinian says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 3:29 pm

      The problem is not merely the Elite Leaders, but also the relative incognizance about the problem of Islam on the part of the ordinary people. These are the same problems, incidentally, that afflict all Western nations; Britain is not unique in this regard, only worse by degree.

      Meanwhile, the EDL remains as marginalized as it is is due to both factors I listed above — with the addition of a third: the failure of the still small (but slowly growing) anti-Islam movement to support the EDL, out of fear of catching its putatively racist/neo-Nazi cooties. And this reflects the retention of PC MC, to one degree or another (of course), within the anti-Islam movement.

      As for Spencer’s rhetorical doom-knell about Britain, that Steynian spasm may be dispatched by the reminder that no one knows the future.

  35. duh_swami says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    I reside in an odd place that some people call, ‘the land of the free’. What is between me and Galloway and his hordes of monsters, is the 2nd amendment….

    • Keith says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 7:34 am

      The 2nd amendment? I keep hearing about Americas much valued 2nd amendment.. The 2nd amendment will only help you if enough Americans stand up and defend it otherwise Obama or the next muslim sympathizer of a president you have will sweep it under the carpet along with the 1st amendment and the rest of the constitution. Replacing it with Sharia as proscribed by CAIR.

    • Yokel says

      Mar 2, 2015 at 9:34 am

      And the 2nd amendment is only worth something if you can get hold of the ammunition.

      Just exactly what is happening to ammo for the AR-15?

      A gun ban by other means, from the land that got Al Capone for tax evasion!

  36. vlparker says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    Ah, well, 800 years since Magna Carta. It was a great run. Pi**ed away by a bunch of progressive morons whose ideology is so blinding that they can’t see reality. These fools are unbelievable. I wonder how long before they face Mecca and stick their arses in the air.

  37. jewdog says

    Feb 28, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    Eastern Europeans are far more attuned to recognizing totalitarianism than their Western neighbors. Unfortunately, by the time Western Europeans figure it out, it may be too late.

    • Joginder Singh says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 4:22 am

      Maybe the reason that Eastern Europeans are more aware of totalitarianism is they suffered having the nightmares of hitler and stalin imposed on them and have no intention of having a third nightmare islam imposed on them

      • jewdog says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 7:21 am

        Exactly.

  38. Sam says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 12:17 am

    I just cant be optimistic about Europe with their brainwashed socialist populace and EU administration. I have to see some evidence of some attempt to fight Islam.

    • Keith says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 7:36 am

      Don’t hold your breath, see my response to Andrew GB at 7:26am

  39. Salah says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 1:43 am

    An anti-Islamization rally in the UK: 375
    An anti-Islamization rally in Egypt: 33 million

    Even Muslims know better!

    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-end-of-muslim-brotherhood.html

    • Steven says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 5:02 am

      Wow….does it mean the muslims in Egypt are islamophobia, eh?

      • Salah says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 6:14 am

        Not quite…yet.
        True Muslims want sharia, they want the islamization of their countries. Nominal Muslims don’t.
        By rejecting sharia, the Muslims in Egypt are subtly rejecting Islam itself.
        Islam is a huge prison where Muslims are both the prisoners AND the jailers. Today, *THIS* is rapidly changing thanks to the information superhighway.

        http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/12/perfect-man-of-islam.html

        • voegelinian says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 3:33 pm

          “True Muslims want sharia, they want the islamization of their countries. Nominal Muslims don’t.”

          I’ll have to add “nominal Muslims” to my list of the Moderate-Muslim-by-another-name.

          The Mutation of the “Moderate Muslim”
          http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-mutation-of-moderate-muslim.html

  40. Smart Guy says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 1:54 am

    Clearly the British are cowards, whereas America is supposed to be the land of the free and the brave.
    But is America still the land of the Brave? According to Christian Action Network there are 21 Islamic terrorist compounds that have been bought by the Saudis. The CIA is being run by a Moslem, and according to an ISIS leader he confessed that America was paying ISIS $600 for every new recruit.
    That news was on RT (Russian TV) there is also reports that ISIS are getting ammunition and weapons
    drops from the air, (Prison Planet) The weapons and ammunition are made in of course America.
    In other words the President and the CIA are traitors to America. And what is anybody doing about it???
    The last king of England found guilty of committing treason was beheaded in Whitehall after the English Civil War.

    • Brian Hoff says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 6:53 am

      That those so terrorist training in Texas isnot than terrorist traing camp it is than buddhist as than mederation camp which they rent out to other group of people for pinces and other just event. Than Islamist center rent it for eid one year. It cover 110 acre of land that how the Bubbist earm some money to run they center. I hjear the local and shief laught at the far righter believe it is than terrorist train center.

      • vlparker says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 5:05 pm

        Brian Hoff, huh? Are you sure it isn’t Mohammed something? Perhaps before you try to pose as a westerner you should learn how to speak and write English. Your post is incomprehensible gibberish.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2015 at 2:03 pm

          “Brian Hoff” is the old “DefenderofIslam”. He’s been posting his ludicrous apologia here—and mangling the English language—for years now.

  41. ECAW says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 2:38 am

    If Robert Spencer truly believes that Britain is finished then why does he bother pointing it out at every opportunity – it’s a bit pointless isn’t it? He might as well concentrate on North America and devote his new found spare time to gardening or jazz.

    We could lose Sweden as an example to everyone else but the West cannot afford to see Britain go under. It’s too big a part of what the West is. If all Europe is swamped then it would only be a matter of time before the US found themselves in the same position. You have guns and a religious counter ideology on your side but you seem to be similarly infested with people who just want to bring the West down out of spite.

    Instead of crowing at Britain’s plight Robert Spencer should put aside his resentment at his treatment by Theresa May and encourage the shoots of resistance. Just as an example of Spencer’s bias, I have sent many links to JW, some negative about Britain, some positive, but he has only ever printed the negative ones.

    • pumbar says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 5:00 am

      Don’t say that too loudly here ECAW, you’ll get told off.

    • Roger says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 5:43 am

      ECAW, you have to appreciate that Roberts pride is still smarting from being refused admission to the UK. This damage to his fragile ego is why he produces such a proliferation of stories on the UK whilst ignoring the terror training camps in the USA and the huge number of American ISIS recruits. Not to mention of course the slants he places on articles giving prominence to socialist groups. He ignores the fact, of course, that even the left leaning paper the Guardian can only manage a readership of half a million. The Daily Mail, The Telegraph etc on the other hand have far far higher circulation.
      It is a shame but wounded pride often manifistates itself in such odd ways.
      Robert is a classic case of it which is a shame because Jihadwatch did used to be a good site.

      • cs says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 5:47 am

        We are in big trouble, but is better he points it out rather than ignore it.
        Even the readers of theguardian are pissed, believe me. What holds people back is that they are afraid to be labelled as bigots but in private everyone is concerned.

        • Always On Watch says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 5:56 am

          CS,
          Even the readers of theguardian are pissed

          Really? That is revealing.

        • cs says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 6:06 am

          @Always On Watch
          Yeah man, if you chose to visit the comments area you will be on for a big surprise, there are a lot of people pissed like us there.
          What I do, as an war effort is to spend at least 2 hours per day in social media, commenting, I recommend the Guardian, is a good place to start, start bashing Islam in the ME part, wherever you find Islam bash them, the tide will turn eventually.
          But not only there, try youtube, try as many as you can. Al jazeera is a good one as well.

        • Always On Watch says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 6:23 am

          Do I need a digital subscription to access the comments at the Guardian?

        • ECAW says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 6:39 am

          My new account with the Graun got banned first post this morning. That’s a record!

          Is it cos I is white?

        • cs says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 1:55 pm

          @Always On Watch says

          No man, u don’t need one. Sorry for the late reply.

        • Always On Watch says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 5:10 pm

          Thanks! I’ll start check the Guardian‘s comments.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Mar 2, 2015 at 6:44 am

          I’d noticed that: that is, the readers of the “Guardian”.

          Comments threads simply *hopping* with action, and the Muslims, Musilms-in-masks, Islamophiles and Useful Idiots and grovelling dhimmis getting slapped down, hard, every time they pop up.

          The trick is for all that energy and anger and wit to focus into real-life face-to-face shoulder-to-shoulder networks, and start *pushing* the pollies, the religious leaders, and everybody else.

      • Roger says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 6:58 am

        CS, I am afraid you miss my point. The hardline socialist protesters and subscibeŕs to The Socialist Worker ànd its fellow travellers consist of fewer numbers than even Anjem Choudreys followers. They represent an tiny minority of soap dodgers who are only able to carry out such protests due to the generous benefit system and a few rich mummys and daddys. The mainstream left publication is the Guardian which without the subscription of every library and council building in the country would have long disappeared. Yet Robert persists in the myth that they are some huge organisation when they clearly are not. Yes they have their funders nor would I be surprised to find a source of this to be from the middle east or our good friend Putin.
        Giving them credibility as Robert does though is seriously dumb and as I said I believe down to his crushed ego.
        Always on Watch, no CiF, comment is free, is open to anyone but stand by for your posts to be deleted it the editor doesn’t like them. After all censorship is what the left do best!

        • cs says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 2:13 pm

          These people distribute their papers here in E17, one of the guys is dressed as Palli, and that makes me hate them even more. They are deluded, but believe me, doubt is creeping in some of them. It is really a matter of time and work on social media as well. Educate people, win as much debates as possible etc…

      • ECAW says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 8:15 am

        Roger – That’s a bit harsh. I still think this is a great site, the first one I point newcomers to, and that Robert Spencer is a great man. He just needs a bit of re-education, like from these two for instance:

      • pumbar says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 8:57 am

        100% with you Roger. Spencer does a fine job on JW, but his blatant hatred of the UK and his spitting dummies (pacifiers) and toys out of the pram because he was banned from the UK is just embarrassing. Geert Wilders might be able to give him some pointers on grown up behaviour when banned from Great Britain.

        • cs says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 1:59 pm

          guys, i don’t see the way you see this at all.
          It is like a woman in a horrible dress, and then her friend tells her: YOU ARE ADORABLE, REALLY CUTE.
          When in fact a good friend would tell her, that perhaps an other one would be better. We all know that the 3 major parties sold their asses, that the BBC and channel4 are appeasing muzzies, so the condition here is no good. We have to work more on social media for the time been, and that is my sincere opinion.

        • Richie says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 2:07 pm

          Don’t be absurd, Robert doesn’t hate the UK, what he calls them out on is their government’s polices of appeasement towards Islam and unwillingness to name the enemy. The US is no better. . I think the way Sweden caved in to the Muslims is disgusting- does that mean i hate Sweden? I think Obama’s pandering to islam is vile. Does that mean I hate America?

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 3, 2015 at 10:40 pm

        Roger wrote:

        ECAW, you have to appreciate that Roberts pride is still smarting from being refused admission to the UK. This damage to his fragile ego…
        ……………………………..

        Good grief. This is not about Robert Spencer’s “ego”—aren’t *you* concerned that Britain banned peaceful Anti-Jihadists Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, whose only “crime” is daring to point out the terrible threat of Jihad there? Moreover, active Jihadists like Anjem Choudary are not only allowed to remain in Britain, spewing incitement to Muslim oppression and murder, but are often doing so at the expense of the British taxpayer. If your are not concerned about this, *why not*?

        More:

        …is why he produces such a proliferation of stories on the UK whilst ignoring the terror training camps in the USA and the huge number of American ISIS recruits…
        ……………………………..

        I’m afraid you seem to have missed a lot of stories here:

        “180 US Muslims have joined jihad in Syria; 40 have already returned”

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/180-us-muslims-have-joined-jihad-in-syria-40-have-already-returned

        This story is from today—it was posted just a few hours ago.

        “Minnesota Muslim pleads guilty to trying to join the Islamic State”

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/02/minnesota-muslim-pleads-guilty-to-trying-to-join-the-islamic-state

        This story was from just four days ago.

        Here’s one about Jihad terror training camps:

        “35 Jamaat al-Fuqra ‘terror training camps’ still operating in the U.S.”

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/01/35-jamaat-al-fuqra-terror-training-camps-still-operating-in-the-us

        There are, of course, many more such stories here.

        The fact is that there are *thousands* of stories here about the Jihad threat in the United States—as well as the problem of enablers both clueless and deliberately appeasing.

        But there are also a great number of stories about JIhad in Britain. This is not because Britain is being somehow singled out by a vengeful blog host; it is because *there is so much JIhad in Britain*.

        It is *because* Robert Spencer cares so much about Britain that he continues to follow the news there, and continues to fight to have his ban overturned. Isn’t this something you should be concerned about, as well?

        By the way, I don’t get defensive about stories chronicling the spread of Jihad here in the States—concerned, alarmed, and angry, sure—but not defensive. And why? Because I am more concerned about the spread of Jihad here than I am about—as we crude Yanks are sometimes wont to say—covering my ass.

    • Laura says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 7:24 am

      Has it ever occurred to you that Robert Spencer is devastated that the UK and it’s citizenry are walking blindfolded into dhimmitude, with hardly a whimper of objection?

      • ECAW says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 8:33 am

        Yes of course and so are we. But it is untrue to say that they have walked irrevocably into it and shut the door behind them. The all or nothing contest between Islam and civilisation has only just started.

        • cs says

          Mar 1, 2015 at 2:07 pm

          Perhaps it is because he cares about it ECAW?
          i really see this way.

  42. Michael Warden says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 3:35 am

    Recorded from BNI : http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/02/28/anti-islamization-pegida-movement-debuts-in-newcastle-england/

  43. Michael Warden says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 3:39 am

    Don’t write us off yet Robert. The British people are having to fight not only the hateful left but muslims, the press and practically all the members of the Houses of Parliament ( Commons and Lords ). Either our politicians don’t see the problem – in which case they are fools and not fit for purpose OR they DO see the problem and are therefore TRAITORS.

    • Always On Watch says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 6:07 am

      Go down fighting! That’s what I plan to do if it comes to that in the United States.

      My intellectual battleground is the classroom. I show Fitna at every possible opportunity — as well as Islam: What the West Needs to Know. The parents attend class, too, because I work with classes of homeschoolers. I get to teach World History again soon and will continue to sound the alarm.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Mar 2, 2015 at 7:05 am

      The other thing is, re this report: the source is AFP. Agence France Presse.

      What do we know about *them* (and Reuters, and AP, and the whole boiling)?

      **They are reliably Islamophile**.

      So it is perfectly possible that they may be, for example, underreporting the number of those who came out to rally with PEGIDA, and exaggerating the numbers in opposition. After all, remember when Pam Geller held a big rally and the publicly (mass media) reported numbers were, basically, pretty blatantly undercounted?? And the whole thing was stifled with minimal official – MSM – coverage?

      Something else to think about: *given the inhibitions* that a British poster above has mentioned, and the immense pressure *not* to come out in public, and the *lack* of a tradition of public protest amongst the British middle class, perhaps each individual who did muster up the courage to get out on the street should be viewed as a representative of, oh, 50-100 *other* people who would have come if they could. Who were eldelry, or caring for a family member, or trapped in a work schedule/ shift they *couldn’t* just drop to get there, or who *couldn’t* make it for financial/ travel reasons, but who would *love* to have been there.

      Same thing happened to a Copt rally here in Australia just the last weekend. It really didn’t get much publicity at all, and yet it was right there in Martin Place, Sydney, where the jihad attack happened in December and it was in solidarity with the 21 Coptic martyrs.

      So the correct way to look at this rally is to look at it and think – as also of the various EDL rallies, which *have* also been continuing, under new leadership, and March For England, another patriotic group – “it’s the beginning”.

      All these things are either deliberately ignored by the mainstream media, or played down, or reported in a hostile, negative fashion.

      So PEGIDA – and the EDL and everyone else – must simply refuse to give up, refuse to be discouraged by the negative reporting, and …organise *another* rally, perhaps at a different time (a Sunday afternoon?).

      Try different times and places. Try organising “flash mob” “coalescings” of people in suitable locations, to come together and sing or recite something and then quickly disperse.

      Try different things and see what works best.

  44. david wilson says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 4:28 am

    Cheer up Rob, it is only the first of many. There is now also a Scottish pegida who will be protesting in March. Give it time.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Mar 2, 2015 at 7:11 am

      And are the Welsh rising?

      They should be, under the banner of “the blood red dragon of Gwent” as it says in a wonderful poem about King Arthur.

      The Welsh PEGIDA should **sing**. “Men of Harlech..”.

      Do the Scottish PEGIDA have some bagpipers on the team? If they haven’t, they need them. They need a whole crew of pipers. Pipes and drums. “Pibroch o’ Donuil Dhu, Pibroch o’ Donuil..”.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Mar 2, 2015 at 7:21 am

        G K Chesterton wrote the songs for the English PEGIDA.

        Look up his 1915 novel, “The Flying Inn”. It’s set in an England that has been stealth-Islamised.

        At the end of it there’s a piece called “Who Goes Home?” that is crying out to be set to a singable tune.

        And the other Chesterton piece that is absolutely *made* for this desperate hour is a hymn called “O God of Earth and Altar”. The second stanza reads: “From all that terror teaches/ from lies of tongue and pen/ from all the easy speeches/ that comfort cruel men/ From sale and profanation/of honour and the sword; / from sleep, and from damnation, deliver us, good Lord.” You can sing it to a tune called “King’s Lynn” and it sounds like a marching song.

        Organise a flashmob of choristers and sing *that* in the street outside the House of Commons. Get a hundred people – 500 people – to sing it in Trafalgar Square.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2015 at 11:33 pm

          The prescient G.K. Chesterton had this to say about clueless appeasers:

          “Evil always wins through the strength of its splendid dupes, and there has in all ages been a disastrous alliance between abnormal innocence and abnormal sin”.

          Of course, such “abnormal innocence” can eventually be exposed, as it was with Neville Chamberlain.

  45. Will says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 4:37 am

    two to three sacrificing generations away and the parasitic spoilt of today have not a clue as to why their forefathers died and for what. The fools take it all for granted not realising that not only does it have to be won by blood but constantly defended by blood. I post on UK football websites and they crawl with leftist lice who rejoice in mass “pack rapes” of anyone who disagrees with the “handout” society.

  46. mortimer says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 4:52 am

    ‘SMASH PEGIDA’ !!!!

    Doesn’t that statement sound like ‘hate speech’?

    • Keith says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 7:44 am

      No of course not now if it said smash Islam that would be hate speech and the politicians would be demanding the police arrest as many as possible

  47. Steven says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 4:59 am

    George Galloway is bloody nutter and hypocrite

  48. ken says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 7:23 am

    Islam is a disease and the biggest false religion in the world. The people better wake up and deal with it before its to late.

  49. Semeru says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 7:46 am

    This Demo may have been the first anti—islanization demo by Pegiga but it is not by a long way the first anti-Islamization demo in the UK

    The EDL has held about 100 anti islamizatin demo, and three of those demo where held in Newcastle

    29 May 2010 1500-2000 demostrators

    4 June 2012

    25 May 2013 1500-2000 demostrators

    It seems as If Spencer is very reluctant to acknowledge EDL

  50. Dr John says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 7:49 am

    I don’t think we should be too sensitive and too hard on Robert. He does an incredible job and he is right to say, that at the moment, it does look like we are finished. Just look at the statistics. The stupid left leaning Tory Government are turning a blind eye to child brides and four wives in the muslim Pakistan community and their birth rate is 4.5 kids per wife. In twenty years, they will be the majority. There is no one in the UK doing what Robert does. Jay Smith is great, but he is not political. We should indeed support the EDL and the Christian Defence League and broaden the membership base. None of the mainstream political parties including UKIP speak out against islamisation. Who the hell do we vote for in May to save our once great country? There will eventually be civil war against the Islamic community in the UK.

    • Crixus says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 5:20 pm

      Liberty GB

      And yes there are many anti Islam voices in the UK. Press wise The Spectator leads the charge with the Mail going an okish job. Journalists: Douglas Murray, Nick Cohen, Ed West,

      All publish weekly columns and blogs and their main focus is Jihad.

      Each country has its own methods of demonstration and we have a very right wing media. UKIP are also on the case despite selecting a Muslim for Luton South @hence Liberty GB standing against them there) but Nigel speech in the USA this week was as anti Islamisation as I have seen from him. They get it but they also no that to publicly flog it they will merely attract the focus of the lefties.

  51. thomas pellow says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 8:07 am

    “UK Muslim population of 26 million by 2051?

    “No-one but a fool engages in scaremongering. But using the statistics and analysis of the Muslim Council of Britain, there is a real prospect of a UK Muslim population of 26 million by mid-century. Whatever your politics, serious people need to debate this, sensibly and honestly. No problem there, right?”

    By Vincent Cooper.

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5632/uk_muslim_population_of_26_million_by_2051

  52. BLUE says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 8:19 am

    The last time I was in England, 1980.
    People still stood on their own two feet and would take on anyone, anywhere, anytime. Now they stand in their own DUNG slipping and sliding into islamic oblivion.Where are you Mr. Churchill?

  53. Paul 2 says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 8:46 am

    Can someone explain to me the guy with the Gay rainbow flag protesting in favor of Sharia?

    • pumbar says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 9:09 am

      That’s the rainbow coalition. They want to live in a free society were everyone gets to do what they want, including muzzies that want to enact shariah law. They will then be put to death but the flag carrier would probably say it was fair enough due to “white guilt and privilege” (TM)

  54. zanka says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 9:46 am

    Exactly the same in Rome (Italy) yesterday!

  55. Lioness says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 11:06 am

    Let there be an exodus of nom-muslims from Britain. Let all the freedom lovers, sharia haters comes to the US and Canada. The more the better. We need to have more people with Judeo-Christian values coming here and we shall prosper from it. Britian is lost anyway, slow agonizing death is all that’s left. Mass emigration to the New World, just like it was at the beginning of the 20th century, is what will balance the Islamic proliferation in North America.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 3, 2015 at 10:58 pm

      Lioness wrote:

      Let there be an exodus of nom-muslims from Britain.
      …………………………

      Lioness, why should brave Britons cede their green and pleasant land to a cadre of barbarians who make up no more than 5% of the population? Surely this is the time for them to make a stand, not to withdraw from the field and let the savages have everything they have built.

  56. albert says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 11:59 am

    It is interesting that the lesbian and gay movement were on the counter demonstration voicing their support of Islam, considering that ISIS have declared that when Islam takes power in Europe gays will be thrown from the Eiffel tower. I have a question, no doubt the answer will be there for all to see for future generations of Europeans but as we are not there yet I am curious,….will the unfortunate gays ( or perhaps people merely accused of being gay…..J’ ACCUSE…..) hit the steelwork either on the way down or the superstructure at the bottom or will they miss it and simply splat on the concrete….the latter would be easier to clean?

  57. FredvanH says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 12:53 pm

    Westerners are willing to financially support these parasitic populations, on the sole condition they behave? How phenomenally weak is that.

  58. Alissa says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    The best group to organize a revolt is the retired seniors of which there are many. They have nothing to lose because they don’t work. But they won’t because they are a bunch of spoiled brat baby boomers who resent the time spent on something other than themselves.

    Seniors have the opportunity to organize meetups to discuss taking action. They have the time to picket and stage protests. This should be happening in every neighbourhood in every city and town in the UK. It should be relentless. Occur weekly. It would gain traction and would grow and double and triple. People would take courage from the numbers involved and the government would have to listen because it would affect votes.

    • macavity says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 2:23 pm

      Alissa
      love your idea and the lefty bullies would have to behave because they are pensioners. Love it.

  59. Itinerant says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    The utter irony of Galloway calling anyone ‘far-right’ is beyond parody, given he has links to the pro-Sharia Islamic Forum of Europe, an organisation of which, after his unexpected Tower Hamlets victory in 2005,he was secretly recorded thanking them,more than he could say more than it would be wise for him to say.

  60. Babsb says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    Why on earth did AFP refer to George Galloway as a “firebrand” with all its positive connotations! His ego is monstrous already and that’ll make it even bigger!

    Better to ignore him.

  61. profitsbeard says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    Like having an anti-cancer rally opposed by a pro-cancer rally.

    That would be seen as madness.

    This is worse.

    • Dag says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 6:38 pm

      I see Kepha is still here too. Man, we are getting old in this arena.

      I live in the Amazon jungle these days. Have been here for close to three years now. thinking of returning to the Middle East if I can find some Christians willing to fight for themselves and their fellows. All these years and nothing from the Internet crowd. Oh, well. They are what they are.

      My best to you.
      Son of Walker

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 2, 2015 at 11:08 pm

        Glad to see you posting, Dag.

        • Dag says

          Mar 2, 2015 at 11:44 pm

          Gravenimage! Well, we are still a large group of vets here.

          I still stop in occasionally to make myself unpopular by exhorting people to take real action in the world. I’ve seen some reports I like recently, though it must say something unpleasant about me. I see, for example, that there are German and Dutch motorcycle gang members fighting, perhaps, in Iraq and Syria against jihadis. As it turns out, here in the Amazon jungle, I have met a Paraguayan support group of the U.S.-based Hells Angels. [They know the apostrope is missing, and they don’t care.] Perhaps I will found a Hells Angels chapter myself in the Middle East. It’s one seriously effective way of fighting jihadis.

          Another avenue is Sons of Liberty, thanks to a tip yesterday.

          There are ways of being effective. I write books. I can do that and fight too. I hope to have my sixth book out soon, what i call Snootom. You have to read it backwards, like a Beatles song. I wrote it in the ancient Polish language of Samizdat. I do all this to escape, I hope, censorship in the land of the free and home of the brave.

          Meanwhile, I live happily in the Amazon jungle. You all are welcome to join me. Get your motors running….

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 4, 2015 at 2:32 pm

          Dag wrote:

          Gravenimage! Well, we are still a large group of vets here.
          …………………………………..

          Yep—I’ve been reading and posting here since 2006—nine years now. Grimly, most things have just gotten worse in that time. The Jihad threat is *mushrooming*.

          More:

          I still stop in occasionally to make myself unpopular by exhorting people to take real action in the world. I’ve seen some reports I like recently, though it must say something unpleasant about me…
          …………………………………..

          I don’t think that says anything unpleasant about you—we need people who will fight against Jihadists. Amid the distressing news, I have seen a few signs that are hopeful—the rise of PERGIDA in Germany and now Britain is one of them.

          And while most of the MSM is still assiduously whitewashing Islam, you now actually find news outlets like FOX News regularly referring to *Jihad*—something that *never* used to happen—the best you could hope for was a reference to “terrorism”.

          We are also finding a few more public figures—both here and in Britain and Europe—willing to name Islam as a threat, even if they sometimes hedge. You also find a handful of figures like Bill Maher—a definite liberal—who speaks openly about the threat of Islam. He’s uneven, but figures like him didn’t even exist a few years ago. You also have things like the boycott of the swanky Beverly Hills Hotel in Hollywood when owner the Sultan of Brunei instituted full Shari’ah law. Not long ago, this cohort would have either ignored the situation completely or even have whitewashed it.

          You also have polls from the West showing that Infidels are increasingly leery of Muslims and Islam.

          I *hope* this is the beginning of a push-back. Of course, on the other side we have the formation and advancement of the Islamic State, of Boko Haram, of the Taliban and Al-Shebab and Al Qaida, as well as the alarming spread of Jihad terror attacks here, such as the massacre at Charlie Hebdo.

          That much of this is met by sickening appeasement and increasing adherence to Shari’ah norms by Western authorities is just as alarming, as is the continued flood of Mohammedan “immigrants”—invaders—into our lands.

          So whether we Westerners—always slow to awaken to threats, as we saw from the reaction to the rise of Fascism and Communism—are going to wake up in time to counter this existential threat to our values and way of life is still very much in the balance.

          And you are right about exhorting people to real action. And there are many arenas in which we can be effective—actual fighting, as you suggest, as well as Robert Spencer’s spreading the word. I would not likely be very effective in your arena—but I have my artwork, and Jyllands-Posten, Lars Vilks, and Charlie Hebdo have shown how powerful cartoons and art can be.

          Here’s my Anti-Jihad work:

          http://s478.photobucket.com/user/gravenimageartist/library/?sort=3&page=1

          Jihad Watch and AFDI have announced a Mohammad Cartoon Show in Garland, Texas in May. I’m sending in my MoToons, and am working on several more I hope to have finished before the deadline.

          I’m also reviving my Heroes Against Jihad series, with the brave Charb of Charlie Hebdo as my first subject.

          More:

          There are ways of being effective. I write books. I can do that and fight too. I hope to have my sixth book out soon, what i call Snootom. You have to read it backwards, like a Beatles song. I wrote it in the ancient Polish language of Samizdat. I do all this to escape, I hope, censorship in the land of the free and home of the brave.
          …………………………………..

          Not a lot of overt censorship here, yet—you are more likely to be marginalized. But the fact that all of Robert Spencer’s books are New York Times bestsellers, even if largely ignored by the critics and pundits, is very heartening.

          Davegreybeard and I are talking about collaborating on a cartoon biography of the foul “Prophet” Muhammed. I hope to start serious work on it after I finish up work on the MoToons.

          More:

          Meanwhile, I live happily in the Amazon jungle. You all are welcome to join me. Get your motors running….
          …………………………………..

          Thanks, Dag—unless things get *a lot* uglier, I’m making my stand here in America. As always, lots of different ways to fight. Hope you are otherwise well, and hope we hear from you more often.

  62. Brit says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    Britain lost its identity way back, due to a “left turn” that created a collectivist/socialist government reinforced and maintained by an unchallenged monopoly; the ubiquitous BBC. This leftist voice-box drip-feeds politically correct/collectivist mind control on a daily basis; in my day it was above reproach and always objective.

    David Cameron (Liberal Democrat) laid down a red carpet for Muslims who quickly poured into Britain and dominated areas of the country, many of which are now already Sharia “no-go” zones where the indigenous British non-Muslims are not welcome. David Cameron’s government will deny this …

    • Yokel says

      Mar 2, 2015 at 9:00 am

      Britain is finished.

      Serious Britons realised this when they understood that attending a demo such as this go you a record on the Police intelligence database as a right wing extremist; when it became clear that regardless of who you vote for, the left wing agenda continues apace; when the British leaders parroted Bush’s trite phrase that Islam is a religion of peace; when they observed the Church of England adopting a vigorous Left wing stance; and so on.

      Given the level of surveillance such as CCTV cameras in every public space, CCTV cameras on every public transport vehicle, licence plate recognition cameras on the approach to and within every town and city, CCTV cameras recording the user of every car park and petrol station, let alone the requirements of every phone operator to keep records of who phones whom for at least 12 months, and shortly of every ISP to record every web page that you go to, and the observed practice of NSA and GCHQ to record every bit of internet traffic and to break every encryption they can find, I am not in the least bit surprised that there is no push back. We are indeed beyond the point of man made no return. Only prayer is now of value. We British Christians must learn now how the Christians of Egypt and Iran survive under Islamic rule. It is our turn next.

      The Lord our God is making every British person decide for himself whether he will follow the true God or the god of the world. And as Robert has pointed out, the answer is not pretty. Indeed, Britain is finished.

      • M S case says

        Mar 2, 2015 at 6:24 pm

        How sad for a country as old as dirt to have gone down the wrong path but don’t worry the U S isright on your heels along with Canada and Australia and all of Europe…Wonder how many muslims are in China and North Korea??? might just have to move my citizenship..

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 2, 2015 at 11:30 pm

        Yokel wrote:

        We are indeed beyond the point of man made no return. Only prayer is now of value. We British Christians must learn now how the Christians of Egypt and Iran survive under Islamic rule. It is our turn next.
        ………………………………

        Look, I have enormous sympathy for what decent Britons are facing right now. But—with all respect—your attitude is a great part of the problem.

        Right now, Muslims make up only 5% of the population in Britain—far, far higher than it ever should have been allowed to get, but still hardly a majority. The idea that native Britons have to roll over for these alien barbarians is *not* the case.

        And as bad as the authorities are in Britain, you *have not been conquered by Muslims*—not yet, anyway.

        Other countries have come back after suffering under full conquest—sometimes *for centuries*. Spain, Portugal, southern France, southern Italy, Sicily, Greece, the Balkans, and Israel have *all* fought their way free of Muslim oppression.

        And you yourself have faced as bad—your parents or grandparents fought Fascism, and they did so when they stood virtually alone.

        If enough good Britons stand up, the appeasers *will* back down. Britain is only finished if you let it be so.

        I’m an American whose mother was English, and who has many British cousins, I stand with you. I know you have a proud heritage—you just have to embrace it.

    • alyn21 says

      Mar 2, 2015 at 10:14 pm

      Actually it was Tony Blair and the Labour party who opened the borders. He wanted to rub the noses of the right into diversity. Looks like he succeeded.

  63. Jon says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    “It is absolutely extraordinary that a German organisation sets up in the UK — it’s not as if there is a lack of right-wing nutter organisations here,” he said beforehand.

    What’s extraordinary is that these people came out in support of a religion that opposes everything that the West once stood for.

  64. Crixus says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    I wouldn’t read too much into the numbers. In Germany Pegida is a movement of the middle class. In the UK the middle class has no tradition of public protest, in Germany it does. I live reasonably close to Newcastle, I did attend the March and there is no way I would have taken my kids to this March. The real Nazis have a habit of joining these marches and causing issues. However the most violent are typically the Anti Fascist mob, especially the oxymoron named Unite against Fascism.

    On top of this we are dealing with the prejudice that Robert describes. However, the public mood in the UK is very much against Islam. The left have the ear of the media as they do all over the West. The upcoming general election will be a shock for the centre parties. Farage is fully expected to take a number of seats and to put pressure on the government.

    Additionally we are finally starting to see changes in the attitude of the media. Channel 4 news actually said last week, that there is clearly a problem with anti semitism in Muslim youths in Paris. Now 3 months ago they would NEVER have said that. We had the Dhimmi BBC publish the Hebdo cartoons and although it is taking an age we are starting to see it sink in.

    The biggest problem we have here is unlike in the USA, at the moment we can go to prison for criticism of Islam. However, this fact is starting to sink in and the plebs are grumbling.

    The UK has been subject to the most disgrace example of social engineering carried out by the labour party in an attempt to impose cultural Marxism on the UK. They did this by firstly uncontrolled immigration (see Ed West, The Diversity Illusion 2014) and secondly by a huge increase in state funded charities and ngos which effectively changed the culture of uk institutions to overtly politically correct and culturally Marxist in outlook. This has also allowed the labour party to make it very difficult for the current govt to govern as they have this constant politically correct and decidedly undemocratic pressure from these organisations who prefess to be representing the mood of the people.

    Successive governments have confused this pressure for democratic pressure when in fact the mood of the people is quite different this is why the political elite have found themselves out of touch with the voters.

    This article and this March are merely another expression of this. The make or break for the UK will be the general election in May.

    If the political status quo remains or worse, if labour get in then and only then will I start to have very serious concerns. Until then we have a battle to fight and win and I’m optimistic in my faith in the common sense of the majority of the British voters even if I gave little in the political elite.

  65. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 2, 2015 at 8:23 am

    To all British jihadwatchers posting and lurking here: please, please, please, do not give up, do not give way to Despair, which is one of the seven deadly sins. Under YHWH, the future *is* open. That I believe. *Nothing* is fated, nothing is set in stone.

    Find *something* you can do – even if it’s just writing letters to politicians day in and day out – and then do it with all your heart.

    I’d urge you to consider joining The Royal Society of St George – if only because, as a member of the Society, you have the *perfect* excuse for obtaining the English flag with the Cross of St George, and flying it outside your home or business premises, as a sign of defiance..and if some jobsworth twits you about it, you can refer them to Her Majesty the Queen, Patron of the Society, and tell them to go argue with *her*.

    If you identify yourself as a Christian: PRAY like blazes. It’s Lent, after all. James 5: 13-18; Ephesians 6: 10-18. Find a few friends – or more – and go prayer-walking round your neighbourhood or suburb or city. Make a “hit-list* of mosques in your town or prominent mosques in the UK and…pray for the exposure and failure of all jihad plots associated therewith, and for the failure of ‘dawa’; and for mass conversions of Muslims! Consider adopting the practice of praying, at midday, every day, for 1/ the defeat of the Jihad 2/ the relief and deliverance of all those who are oppressed and attacked by Muslims 3/ the liberation of Muslims from Islam. Pray for PEGIDA, pray for EDL, pray for Liberty Great Britain and Paul Weston, pray for Gavin Boby and his Law and Freedom Foundation (which resists mosque building, and has done a lid-lifting comprehensive report on the Mohammedan rape gangs). Pray for the release from dhimmitude of politicians and church leaders.

    (And re praying, if you’re Jewish, again: PRAY !).

    A further thought: look up “Beating the Bounds”. It traditionally happened some time after Easter. Do any churches in your vicinity do it? Would your rector be interested in doing it? If you don’t know what it is: run a google search, everything I’ve found out suggests to me that it is *made to order* for public, large-scale cultural reaffirmation and reclamation of “turf” upon which Muslims have been encroaching. It’s a custom open in many ways to the nonreligious and to persons of goodwill from other, non-Islamic faiths who reside in Britain; judging from the description of what happens, I’m sure Hindus and Sikhs would happily join the merry throng trooping round the borders of the parish.

    Now, here’s some soul food to ward off the Dementors. G K Chesterton, the hymn I mentioned in an earlier posting – “O God of Earth and Altar”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFG-CqYXyOo

    It should be the official hymn of the resistance in Britain.

    And here’s the people’s choir – 700 people! – singing something by one of England’s greatest Renaissance composers, Thomas Tallis – his awesome forty-part motet Spem in Alium (My hope is in no other [save in Thee]…).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2rK_Yhpui8&feature=related

    Expecto patronum!

    It is up to *you* to be the real-life ‘order of the phoenix’.

    To be Arthur, Alfred, and the knights of St George.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 3, 2015 at 12:03 am

      Bravo!

  66. Linda Rivera says

    Mar 2, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    Britain is NOT finished!

    • alyn21 says

      Mar 2, 2015 at 10:26 pm

      I have read many of your posts and while I respect your opinions for the first time I have to disagree with you.Britain is too politically correct to crawl out of the hole that it is in. If the govt does not kill off the country then your demographics will. In London the most popular baby name is Mohammed. In my province of Ontario in Canada the most popular baby name according to the last poll I read was Liam. Who is more British?

    • Jay Boo says

      Mar 2, 2015 at 10:39 pm

      Maybe places like Birmingham (Lahore-ham) can still be salvaged, but it is going to get really messy if the truth of Islam isn’t set free.

      • Jay Boo says

        Mar 2, 2015 at 10:40 pm

        the (ugly) truth of Islam

  67. alyn 21 says

    Mar 2, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    Pegida in the UK will not work. Their leader Marion Rogers says she has nothing against Islam. Duh!! Marion what do you think Pegida stands for??? Sadly Britain is finished. I think I fully started to realize that when they arrested a man for quoting Winston Churchill.

  68. Jeff Campbell says

    Mar 3, 2015 at 4:44 am

    I’m not trying to change the Subject here, but I have to ask, because as an American I don’t know much about UK politics.
    Why do these so called anti-fascist consider themselves anti-fascist ?. I have to ask, because restricting freedom of speech, jailing people for speaking their minds, making excuses for the bad behaviors of others are all ear marks of a fascist. If you read Mussolini’s Book on Fascism everything he claims Fascism is, is embraced by the anti-fascist groups. Is it because they have become the very thing they claim to hate?.

  69. Mark says

    Mar 3, 2015 at 10:16 am

    If you search on youtube using the words galloway hamas, you should still find the videos showing him handing over money and materials to the hamas leader in gazza, calling the hamas leader his leader etc etc and also calling for hamas to send more rockets onto israel.

    The traitor has been a muslim for years.

    It was mostly muslims that were with him.

    If I recall rightly he referred to the anti islamisation group as nazis on the news report.

  70. gravenimage says

    Mar 4, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    UK’s first anti-Islamization rally dwarfed by counter-demo
    …………………..

    I realize that this is easy for me to say from across the pond where things are not yet as dire as in Britain, but good people have come out and demonstrated under *mush* more dire circumstances than yet hold in the UK.

    Rather than just facing the stigma of being considered “right wing”, people have demonstrated in the face of long term imprisonment and being shot by the authorities—neither of which is likely to happen in Britain—not yet, anyway.

    I also don’t want to minimize the danger of attack from violent Muslims and from hard-left groups like ANTIFA—but this is also likely to do nothing but worsen if good people don’t stand up.

  71. Billy Battle says

    Mar 8, 2015 at 1:56 am

    Time for all in the UK to vote UKIP! A vote for Labour or Tories is a vote for more of Islam.

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