How odd that none of these 5,000 Muslims stopped and thought, “Wait a minute. John Kerry and David Cameron say that the Islamic State is not Islamic. I guess I better not join it after all.”
“5,000 Foreign Fighters Flock to Libya as ISIS Call for Jihadists,” by Jack Moore, Newsweek, March 3, 2015:
Over 5,000 foreign fighters have flocked to Libya to join the ranks of radical Islamist groups such as the Islamic State (ISIS), according to the country’s foreign minister, Mohammed al-Dairi.
Al-Dairi, in comments made to the Libyan news outlet The Libya Herald, said there were many “terrorist leaders” who had arrived in the country from foreign countries, joining terror groups such as ISIS and Ansar al-Sharia.
In a recruitment video released last week, an ISIS militant called for jihadists from Saudi Arabia, Tunisia and Egypt to immigrate to Libya. Last month, Libya’s army spokesperson also claimed that the biggest ISIS camp in the country was situated just 45km (27.9 miles) from the Tunisian border and a number of Tunisian foreign fighters had carried out suicide bomb attacks in the eastern city of Benghazi.
The country has descended into chaos since 2011 when Colonel Muammar Gaddafi was removed from power at the height of the Arab Spring. Libya now has two governments jostling for legitimacy – the internationally-recognised government who are based in the eastern coastal town of Tobruk, and the Islamist-backed General National Congress (GNC) based in the capital, Tripoli.
ISIS have allegedly appointed two emirs, both foreign nationals, to oversee both sides of the country. The ‘Emir of Tripoli’, a Tunisian known as Abu Talha, controls the group’s operations in the west and a Yemeni national Abu al-Baraa el-Azdi, based in the town of Derna, which the group control.
Mohamed Eljarh, Libyan analyst and non-resident fellow with the Atlantic Council’s Rafik Hariri Centre for the Middle East, says that fighters entering Libya from other countries is part of ISIS’s plan to gain more territory in the country.
“I believe that this is part of the Islamic State’s strategy,” he says. “They are seeking to overtake territory, entire cities and towns and entire states. That is their strategy. The flow of fighters is in line with this strategy in order to take over failed states such as Libya, Iraq and Syria.”
Al-Dairi also repeated the government’s call for the international community to help prevent the flock of jihadists to the country and the proliferation of terror in the country beset by unrest. Last month, Libyan prime minister Abdullah al-Thinni requested that the West launch air strikes against al-Qaeda and ISIS cells in the country….
Jay Boo says
Just for the sweet smelling lovely ladies of Islam
IZ IS IN THE BOWL
Hey girls, there something that I’ve been meaning to say.
When you bend over please remember that MO did not come to pray.
You ladies thought that Islam was a string of pearls
but now no matter how you try to flush and flush
and all you get is Islam’s stubborn nasty swirls.
Don’t be fooled; IZ has no groove.
It is a bottomless pit of poo.
MO was such a clinging whiz.
Please wipe your butt and remove that sticky IZ.
Spot On says
So wipe it with your hand
and rub it in the sand
This the way Muslims do
when dealing with poo
Jay Boo says
Islam is so anal
Spot On says
Islam inspires all to greatness. (sarc)
M S case says
That’s the left hand…………wonder if they get mixed up sometimes and eat with that hand after rubbed in the sand…….5000, from lybia…anybody know what their number of forces is now???
Linde Barrera says
Jay Boo, I do sincerely love your comments on this website. So I made up a little rhyme in keeping with the spirit of these times:
Your poem sounds tricky, looks picky, feels sticky, brings no hope; watch out for their grope, don’t want you on the end of their rope.
Keep being creative against these demons.
Jay Boo says
Thanks Linde for your support and encouragement and your poem.
We are all a small part of something greater like a puzzle.
One comment inspires another and opens unexpected doors to new ideas.
Together we can unveil Islam.
Champ says
How odd that none of these 5,000 Muslims stopped and thought, “Wait a minute. John Kerry and David Cameron say that the Islamic State is not Islamic. I guess I better not join it after all.”
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Exactly, Robert! Spot on!
Demsci says
The Anti-Western propaganda, coming from Iran, many Islamic places, and Russia too, is that: it is the fault of the West that Libya is now in chaos. Because of it’s intervention against Khadaffi, who, as they say, would have made mincemeat of those terrorists, and already had made Libya not far from a heaven on Earth.
How do you respond to that? I for one point out that the ones that do the killing and creating of chaos, that THEY are responsible, and THEY are almost all MUSLIMS.
What next for Libya? Al-Thinni, “our man”, in Tobruk, is also supported by Al-Sisi of Egypt. And the “government” in Tripoli (by far the biggest city, with # 2 million inhabitants) is allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Now the government in Tobruk seems to “control” most of the oilfields, but only the eastern part of eastern Libya, Cyrenaica. Because Bengazi, the city that the West rescued from Khadaffi’s murderous intentions, is also in the hands of Muslim Extremists.
Is it too far-fetched that eventually East-Cyrenaica, with it’s oil-fields will all but unite with Egypt?
out of despair of Al-Thinni’s government, because the Muslim Brotherhood is not much attacking or attacked by ISIS, in Derna and Bengazi, and the West is not helping that chosen government enough? And Egypt could well use the oil!
steve says
So you support toppling of dictatorships in general? How can it be positive in muslim countries, where the only other organised groups are islamic. Naturally Muslims are doing the killing. The Arab spring was supported too…..how could this not have been expected. Much like the negative impact of importing Muslims to western civilisation…..the effects are predictable…so is it done by idiots or what?
Demsci says
With hindsight we can now say in future we better act differently. But in 2011 many Libyans, Muslims, esp. those in Benghazi, as well as many in the UN, begged the West to help. Just as the Syrians later did. In Libya the West only established no fly zones, with “no boots on the ground”. The rebels and government forces themselves did the rest (of the killings). In Syria did the West not instigate a no-fly-zone. Yet both the result in Libya and Syria were disastrous, in Syria arguably more so, arguably as a result of intervention by Russia and Iran!
I am convinced our politicians meant well. And that no cynical real good deals came out of intervention.
Before the wars after 9/11, incl. in Afghan, Iraq, Libya the West was constantly criticized for NOT intervening and supporting brutal dictators, and it was said that the cynical West did it for profit.
But the alternative of intervention is now decried as inhumane and stupid, by people like Justin, who out of hate will always blame the West, no matter what. And in the past withdrawing cooperation with brutal dictators only meant them defecting to the much more ruthless soviets.
And I say; let all humans be treated as adult and sane by the same standards. And let not the Western governments, to me still representers and reflections of majorities of voters, get the bulk of the blame!
Let in equal measure fall blame on the shooters, the gangsters, the Islamic supremacists AND the dictators (I mean; what was Khadaffi thinking?! And Saying?! And Doing? Plenty! Bad! Lethal!
It is highly arrogant to blame mostly white Democratic leaders for what went wrong in Islamic countries, ruled by their own dictators, ruined by their own Islamists and warlords, who were the ones who did 99 % of the killings and the oppression and the exploitation.
Blaming only intervening guilty”whites” really means that the intervening guilty “non-whites” are seen as childlike, incapable of making their own choices. This is the arrogance of lowered expectations for leaders and fighters in Islamic countries or elevated expectations for those of democratic countries. It is hypocritical use of double standards IMO.
Spot On says
Demsci, I saw clearly what was going on before we attacked Libya.
Long before taking out Gaddafi, there was news that Gaddafi said publicly just before French elections that he had paid money to the former French President. The French President denied this vehemently but won re-election. Then the French President started making accusations at Gaddafi and some time after that the French convinced B.O. to join the French against Libya to take out Gaddafi. I knew well ahead of time exactly what was going on…French political retribution. It was a war led by the French with B.O. “leading from behind” to get rid of Gaddafi. Likely the Muslim Brotherhood was paying B.O. Muslims have it easy today because they have many poiticians in their pocket.
Why did I know this and few if any others knew? I saw the same news as everyone else but I was looking for this. Others were not. People do not want to believe the high level of outright corruption that exists in world politics today and they will not look to find it. It is commonplace for US politicians to openly extort money from Corporations and no one cares. Hey, Jesse and Al make a great living this way and nobody cares. Why wouldn’t politicians do this with other countries and visa versa?
I was taught to always know the biography of the author before reading the book. I knew what Clinton was all about long before he became President. Friends in Arkansas told me all about “Slick Willie”. He was the slipperiest politician they ever knew. Now Bill is presiding over his $2B fund with much of it from the ME. This is like letting the goat watch over the cabbage patch. B.O. was a part of the Chicago Political Machine and that was all I needed to know about him. Not many (other than JW) today care much about the biography of who they see, hear, read, or elect. I believe this may be why people back politicians who get us into wars that have bad outcomes, especially for the poor Christians in Muslim countries in the ME and Eastern Block. The Christians get murdered by Muslims and forgotten by us. If people don’t see it on TV, they don’t see it at all.
The anti-Christian MSM will never tell us about the ME Christians. Few seem to care much anymore about the source of the information they get. Fortunately now Bret Baer is doing specials showing the plight of ME Christians. Maybe this situation will get better.
Demsci says
Spot On, fascinating stuff, thanks, and oh, I have no reason to doubt you or to think our Western leaders are “angels”.
But even in your story; Not only the French president and B.O(bama) are the SOLE or even the PRIME responsible, blamable.
In France, America, Britain parliaments had to be and were persuaded, so it was not just Sarkozy en B.O. that warred.
Khadaffi CAUSED discontent, by oppression and murder, done by him and his elite. He apparently stupidly antagonized some very powerful people and that was arrogant and dumb, so he brought his (regime’s) fate on himself.
And remember, while Sarkozy and B.O. duly put themselves up for election, Muammar Khadaffi appointed himself for life as dictator and held fake elections in which he, surprise, won 99 % of the votes. Sarkozy + BO allowed free speech, Muammar did not allow that either.
And even in your story the Muslim Brotherhood acted in sneaky, ruthless ways.
I do believe in moral faults like corruption and ulterior motives on the Western Democratic side, But those faults are ubiquitous. I say, spread the responsibility and blame all around and hold “muslims, leaders and people of third world countries, who are not “children”, responsible with exactly the same standards as the Western Democratic leaders.
Spot On says
Demsci, I am certainly not defending Gaddafi. He was a treacherous dictator but for some reason these old treacherous dictators kept Christians alive all those years. The chaos resulting from the loss of these dictators has been devastating to ME Christians and the US has done nothing to protect the Christians. Even Slick Willie bombed the Christians and saved the Muslims during the Kosovo fiasco. Any Christian there will never trust us again and the Muslims will always hate us no matter what. Such a lose-lose deal. Now we are going the same way in Iraq and Syria.
I also agree that the French were not the only instigators with Libya but B.O. and the French can use their influence many ways. I was heartily in favor of taking out Saddam. However, after watching our buffoons in Washington run an incompetent war for so many years at the expense of our young troops and not solve the problem, it makes me rethink everything. We won WWII in 4-5 years. We knew how to get things done then. Now we cannot win wars of any kind. We now go to war seemingly to make the enemy happy. This will not work. The enemy laughs at us. We have forgotten what a real enemy is.
This was not the case in WWII. In WWII they killed the enemy until the enemy Demsci, Your point is well taken. I certainly am not praising Gaddafi. He was treacherous but for some reason, all stopped laughing and were so scared that they capitulated and submitted to our will. Then we restructured their lives to our demands.
Today, I realize, that political correctness and corruption play a large part. Between corruption and political correctness, the savages and barbarians of the world have all the advantages it seems. Muslims have been the savages that they are for 1400 years. They have not changed but we have. We now do not have the will do do what is necessary to win against these savages, and I believe it is due to a lot of things in our present society including corrupt politicians. This is deplorable.
Spot On says
Pardon the computer cut-paste error in second last paragraph.
Demsci says
Spot On, Yes these pesky dictators protected the christians, and later on we lost so many of them thankfully many emigrated, but still. heart-rendering, immensely frustrating to me too.
you are right about the spirit of WWII, I think. But you see, that TOOK a long time to materialise and many losses, why Hitler could at first conquer the better part of europe! (including Allies) before a Democratic reaction came!
In short, while I hold no (other) grudge against them, our damned disinterested, ignorant, unwilling majority, is what we, true loyal democratic citizens, have to give up! Along with big chunks of territory, if need be. I do this in the knowledge that you and so many posters here and so many citizens ABHOR this appeasing, half-hearted mode of operation by governments and elites, but really by the majority of the voters. So don’t even want to save them. Let their children convict them and let them come to us.
But with a 51 % majority (and higher) of our breed, THEN we become powerful, as we were in WWII. Hitler at his end predicted that the Soviets would conquer the West. He then still underestimated united, vibrant Democracies as he did when he foolishly declared war on America (same as those fool Japanese).
Don McKellar says
And one WONDERS:
Did Obama stop and think before he removed the Mad Dog from power in Libya: “Hmmm, I wonder what will happen to this muslim country when the dictator who is keeping it stable and has become reasonable with the modern world is suddenly removed?”
What DID Obama think when he destabilized Libya and threw it into chaos? Is he happy about his choice? Did he ever think for a minute about what would be INEVITABLE? Perhaps he did think about and thought the massive death, destruction, and chaos of Islamic jihad that’s happening now is a good thing?
What did he think as he made that decision and gave those orders?
Joseph says
OF COURSE HE IS HAPPY.
Obama is a Mudslime. Anything for the advancement of Islam. Even the killing of Bin Laden. Yes it is OK to kill another Mudslime if it advances the cause. Mohammed(MHPFO)(May his penis fall off) did this too!
Jerry says
The sequel to the Manchurian Candidate:
The Somali Incumbent.
Spot On says
Largely unnoticed is B.O.’a Muslim Brotherhood advisers in the WH. The Brotherhood has a lot of money for B.O.’s political support. All perfectly legal too.
pumbar says
It must be a bit confusing for IS when everyone calls themselves Abu. Maybe they do the Welsh thing, with Jones the butcher, Jones the landlord etc? Abu the terrorist, hmm, that doesn’t work either.
Joseph says
OK, I’m laughing here. How about…
Abu the chicken —ucker
Abu the goat poker
Abu the boy lover
You get the idea.
pumbar says
The problem is that they all get up to those things, maybe they need to wear different coloured hats or armbands or something. Green Abu, taupe Abu etc?
That way they could use the same coloured dye on their property, so yellow Abu would know not to fondle that goat as it obviously belongs to duck egg blue Abu.
Maybe I should sell the idea to Abu bakr al bigdaddy? Get some of that ebay money he’s making.
Joseph says
“so yellow Abu would know not to fondle that goat as it obviously belongs to duck egg blue Abu”
GREAT, now I’m going to have bad dreams of Abu and some goat.
STILL funny though. The word fondle threw it over the top.
I wonder if those guys at least buy the goats dinner and drinks first?
pumbar says
“I wonder if those guys at least buy the goats dinner and drinks first?”
You’d hope so, how else would they get the rohypnol into the goat?
Jerry says
Actually “Abu” is not a name – it is the “Father of”
“Ibn” or “Bin” is the “Son of”
The claim of “Abu” is not always verifiable, but most of
those “Abu” easily qualify as:
“Bin Sharmutta”.
cs says
Does anyone has the statistics from where these guys are from??
Spot On says
The names only matter to Muslims. Sort of like different vendors selling slightly different flavors of the same brand of Islam. Sunni and Shia are the two major franchises and they each come in a variety of different flavors from many vendors.
Spot On says
We apparently went to war in the ME to save Muslims from themselves. As a result of our efforts, Christians are being systematically eliminated by Muslims and the Muslims are still the same savages they have been for 1400 years. We seem unable to comprehend a religious war and the Muslims are more than ready and able to do so.
Hopefully we will see a change in our attitude on this. Our secular institutions cannot comprehend anything religious it seems and they are the resources that provide for our political and military efforts.
xxxChurch100 says
How is this ??
I have been trying to watch some on the World Cup Cricket on T.V , BUT at the end of every over [ 6th ball ] there is a commercial break , and quite a lot of these ads are seeking people to join up in the Australian Defense Forces …. I guess they must be having a hard time making up the numbers … Unlike ISIS’ S ad campaign , just one mention at your local mosque during Friday prayers to jihad in Syria and there is an mass exodus of potential recruits …..