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Afghan Muslim cleric defends lynching of woman for burning Qur’an

Mar 21, 2015 11:02 pm By Robert Spencer

woman-lynched-in-Kabul2“It was unclear whether she had actually burned a Koran, but during Friday prayers at a mosque in a smart area of Kabul, a cleric’s sermon broadcast by loudspeaker told devotees that the crowd had a right to defend their Muslim beliefs at all costs.” At a mosque? But didn’t all the moderates rise up and speak out against lynching for blasphemy?

“Afghan cleric and others defend lynching of woman in Kabul,” by Hamid Shalizi and Jessica Donati, Reuters, March 20, 2015 (thanks to all who sent this in):

KABUL (Reuters) – An Afghan cleric and a police official on Friday defended the lynching of a woman in central Kabul after a mob was filmed stamping on the woman and smashing a brick on her head after she was accused of burning a Koran, Islam’s holy book.

The woman’s body was set on fire and thrown onto the banks of Kabul’s main river on Thursday.

It was unclear whether she had actually burned a Koran, but during Friday prayers at a mosque in a smart area of Kabul, a cleric’s sermon broadcast by loudspeaker told devotees that the crowd had a right to defend their Muslim beliefs at all costs.

“I am warning the government not to arrest those who did this, because it will mean an uprising,” said the cleric at the Wazir Akbar Khan mosque.

Another Afghan man boasted on Facebook of participating in the lynching, saying that “pious people of Kabul, including myself, killed her and then burnt her. Her place is in hell.”

A spokesman in the Kabul police chief’s office also appeared to justify the killing, saying the woman had deliberately insulted Islam.

“This (person) thought, like several other unbelievers, that this kind of action and insult will get them U.S. or European citizenship. But before reaching their target, lost their life,” Hashmat Stanekzai wrote on his Facebook page.

President Ashraf Ghani’s office said the killing would be investigated by both the Ministry of Interior and a committee of religious scholars.

“No individual is allowed to make oneself a judge and use violence to punish others,” Ghani’s statement said.

It added that the government “also condemns in strong terms any action that causes disrespect to the Holy Koran and Islamic values”.

Anger among Afghans over Koran desecration has boiled over into violence several times. In 2011, riots killed seven U.N. staff after an American pastor broadcast a video of himself burning a Koran.

Foreign donors that have poured billions of dollars into promoting the rule of law and human rights programs did not issue statements on the killing, which took place just a short drive from the diplomatic quarter.

Heather Barr of Human Rights Watch urged foreign embassies, which often swiftly condemn violence linked to the Taliban, to publicly denounce the attack, to “make it clear that this kind of complete lack of rule of law represents a shocking failure”.

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Comments

  1. profitsbeard says

    Mar 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm

    I guess that’ll show her that “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam“..

    Barack Quisling Obama.

    • More Ham Ed says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 6:01 pm

      How true. Bare-rock Embalm-Ya.

    • Mindful says

      Mar 23, 2015 at 2:35 am

      To me, islam is a proof God does not exist.

  2. Joseph says

    Mar 21, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    President Ashraf Ghani’s office said the killing would be investigated by both the Ministry of Interior and a committee of religious scholars.

    AND YET IT WAS SAID

    “I am warning the government not to arrest those who did this, because it will mean an uprising,” said the cleric at the Wazir Akbar Khan mosque.

    WHILE

    Foreign donors that have poured billions of dollars into promoting the rule of law and human rights programs did not issue statements on the killing

    This is really messed up. I guess Kerry, Hilary and Obama will say something stupid like “They don’t need just money, for money doesn’t solve the problem, they need TECHNOLOGY(probably nuclear).
    What will it take for our leaders to wake up.
    Now I know why the last presidential election was rigged. THEY WANT THIS TO HAPPEN and they are doing everything in their power to make sure it does. I hope they think that an eternity in hell is worth all their worldly power, money and glory.

  3. gravenimage says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 12:31 am

    Afghan Muslim cleric defends lynching of woman for burning Qur’an

    “It was unclear whether she had actually burned a Koran, but during Friday prayers at a mosque in a smart area of Kabul, a cleric’s sermon broadcast by loudspeaker told devotees that the crowd had a right to defend their Muslim beliefs at all costs.” At a mosque? But didn’t all the moderates rise up and speak out against lynching for blasphemy?
    …………………………………..

    There were *thousands* in the mob—it was so huge that it broke some of the infrastructure at the shrine jockeying to get a better view of the murder.

    And this is what pious Muslims consider “defense”—a mob of thousands beating a mentally ill woman to death and setting her on fire.

    And note: not only was there a cleric egging them on and condoning this atrocity, but this took place in a “smart” part of town—indicating the mob was probably better off and better educated than most Afghans.

    So much for the “ignorance” and “poverty” canards.

    And note, finally, that is was actually *unclear whether she had actually burned a Qur’an*. A rumor going around a bloodthirsty mob is enough.

    More:

    “I am warning the government not to arrest those who did this, because it will mean an uprising,” said the cleric at the Wazir Akbar Khan mosque.
    …………………………………..

    Muslims will fight to the death those who would impugn their “right” to publicly beat a woman to death on the strength of a rumor. After all, what could possibly be more Islamic?

    More:

    Another Afghan man boasted on Facebook of participating in the lynching, saying that “pious people of Kabul, including myself, killed her and then burnt her. Her place is in hell.”

    A spokesman in the Kabul police chief’s office also appeared to justify the killing, saying the woman had deliberately insulted Islam.
    …………………………………..

    And it’s not just the cleric, but “ordinary” Afghans and *even the police*. What is the chance that there will be any arrests in this case under these perverse circumstances?

    More:

    “This (person) thought, like several other unbelievers, that this kind of action and insult will get them U.S. or European citizenship. But before reaching their target, lost their life,” Hashmat Stanekzai wrote on his Facebook page.
    …………………………………..

    Well, this is just bizarre. I suppose they had to find some way to blame the West, though.

    More:

    President Ashraf Ghani’s office said the killing would be investigated by both the Ministry of Interior and a committee of religious scholars.

    “No individual is allowed to make oneself a judge and use violence to punish others,” Ghani’s statement said.
    …………………………………..

    This is weak. Notice that Ghani’s spokesman is not actually condemning murdering someone on suspicious of “blasphemy”, just that they didn’t let the Shari’ah courts handle it.

    After all, Muslims are technically only supposed to resort to mob violence if the victim is not killed by the state.

    So—what *would* the Afghan courts have done? In 2008 they sentenced student journalist Sayed Kambaksh to death for admitting under torture that he had atheist writings on the internet. The sentence was later commuted to twenty years in prison.

    In 2003, the Afghan Supreme Court upheld death sentences for journalists Sayeed Mahdawi and Ali Reza Payam. Afghan authorities accused the journalists of blasphemy for saying the Islam practiced in Afghanistan was “reactionary”. The journalists went into hiding before the sentences were pronounced.

    There are many other cases of arrest and lengthy prison terms for “blasphemy”.

    So the state may well have decided to murder her themselves. Their only quibble is with jurisdiction.

    More:

    It added that the government “also condemns in strong terms any action that causes disrespect to the Holy Koran and Islamic values”.
    …………………………………..

    Well, of course they do. What is beating a victim to death and setting her on fire compared to a rumor of “disrespect” to Islamic “values”?

    More:

    Anger among Afghans over Koran desecration has boiled over into violence several times. In 2011, riots killed seven U.N. staff after an American pastor broadcast a video of himself burning a Koran.
    …………………………………..

    Proof that the victims need not have even been the ones guilty of blasphemy—it can be any Infidel, or even any Muslim unlucky enough to be accused.

    More:

    Foreign donors that have poured billions of dollars into promoting the rule of law and human rights programs did not issue statements on the killing, which took place just a short drive from the diplomatic quarter.
    …………………………………..

    And don’t forget our brave men and women who have died trying to give these murderous savages the chance to live in a civilized democracy. All that blood and treasure for nothing.

    And now these donors are not even bothering to condemn this atrocity.

    More:

    Heather Barr of Human Rights Watch urged foreign embassies, which often swiftly condemn violence linked to the Taliban, to publicly denounce the attack, to “make it clear that this kind of complete lack of rule of law represents a shocking failure”.
    …………………………………..

    Heather Barr is quite right that this is a failure—but at this point, can anyone truly be shocked?

  4. The renegade says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 2:33 am

    The world needs to leave Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi etc. alone, they will do a great job internally slaughtering themselves and also fighting among-st each other. look at Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Lybia etc. these people dont deserve compassion and humanity for they are inhuman as they follow that demon incarnate Muhammad!

    West should let Iran acquire a nuke, Saudi will follow and ultimately nuke each other off ending Islam. Civilized world just needs to sit back and watch the show while these monsters kill each other.

    Instead the atheist, secular and humane societies send these creeps aid, medicines, build roads etc. and these shameless muslims then go begging to these kufrs to get more military support, technology, food, roads, medicines, hospitals etc.

    Palestine is virtually surviving on aid from non-muslim world and still churning up a generation of haters. they are like a cat that drinks milk but dont care about the person pouring milk and keeping it alive.

    In Islam, people are not allowed to have dogs…. that is the irony!

    Oil has led to Islam’s rise and violent Jihadism with new vigour. waiting for oil to dry out or better yet for an alternate to be invented for oil so that Islam falls flat on its face.

    Islam will see the beginning of the end when it has a leader like Hitler come to the fore that starts bringing in death and destruction on a mass scale before the good people finally wake up and deliver the KO punch to Islam.

  5. shabeer_hassan says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 2:59 am

    @It was unclear whether she had actually burned a Koran…………

    DEATH PUNISHMENT DECLARE ONLY FOR KILLING/ADULTERY,

    NO DEATH PUNISHMENT FOR BURNING QURAN

    NO PUNISHMENT WITHOUT COMPLETE PROOF:
    4: 15. And those of your women who commit illegal sexual intercourse, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them (i.e. women) to houses until death comes to them or Allâh ordains for them some (other) way.
    18. And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil deeds until death faces one of them and he says: “Now I repent;” nor of those who die while they are disbelievers. For them We have prepared a painful torment.
    Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 63 :: Hadith 185
    Without proof no punishment, even against Jew: prophet give blood money
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 36
    Muslim :: Book 16 : Hadith 4119
    Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 53 :: Hadith 398
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 48 :: Hadith 834
    Punishment only for criminals:
    Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 54 :: Hadith 536
    Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2267

    No punishment for unknown crime:
    33: 5. Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with Allâh. But if you know not their father’s (names, call them) your brothers in faith and Mawâlîkum (your freed slaves). And there is no sin on you if you make a mistake therein, except in regard to what your hearts deliberately intend. And Allâh is Ever Oft¬Forgiving, Most Merciful.

    No blood money for accidental CRIME
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 40 :: Hadith 545
    Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 105
    chance of blood money:
    2: 178. O you who believe! Al-Qisâs (the Law of Equality in punishment) is prescribed for you in case of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But if the killer is forgiven by the brother (or the relatives, etc.) of the killed against blood money, then adhering to it with fairness and payment of the blood money, to the heir should be made in fairness. This is an alleviation and a mercy from your Lord. So after this whoever transgresses the limits (i.e. kills the killer after taking the blood money), he shall have a painful torment.

    Not to accuse an innocent person

    Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 2 :: Hadith 17
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 71, 73, 126
    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 78 :: Hadith 647

    Punishment being moral/forgive the sinner
    16: 126. And if you punish (your enemy, O you believers in the Oneness of Allâh), then punish them with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for As-Sâbirin (the patient ones, etc.).
    127. And endure you patiently (O Muhammad SAW), your patience is not but from Allâh. And grieve not over them (polytheists and pagans, etc.), and be not distressed because of what they plot.
    Dawud :: Book 39 : Hadith 4479
    Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:
    Qurayzah and Nadir (were two Jewish tribes). An-Nadir were nobler than Qurayzah. When a man of Qurayzah killed a man of an-Nadir, he would be killed. But if a man of an-Nadir killed a man of Qurayzah, a hundred wasq of dates would be paid as blood-money. When Prophethood was bestowed upon the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), a man of an-Nadir killed a man of Qurayzah.
    They said: Give him to us, we shall kill him. They replied: We have the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) between you and us. So they came to him.
    Thereupon the following verse was revealed: “If thou judge, judge in equity between them.” “In equity” means life for a life.
    The following verse was then revealed: “Do they seek of a judgment of (the days) ignorance?”

    NO PUNISHMENT FOR WEAK/LUNATIC PERSON

    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4388
    ……… the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: There are three (people) whose actions are not recorded: A boy till he reaches puberty, a sleeper till he awakes, a lunatic till he is restored to reason. This is an idiot (mad) woman belonging to the family of so and so. Someone might have done this action with her when she suffered the fit of lunacy. ………….

    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4387
    Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
    Ibn Abbas said: A lunatic woman passed by Ali ibn AbuTalib. He then mentioned the rest of the tradition to the same effect as Uthman mentioned. This version has: Do you not remember that the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) has said: There are three whose actions are not recorded: a lunatic whose mind is deranged till he is restored to consciousness, a sleeper till he awakes, and a boy till he reaches puberty?
    Forbid burning human:
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 84 :: Hadith 57
    85:10. Verily, those who put into trial the believing men and believing women (by torturing them and burning them), and then do not turn in repentance, (to Allâh), will have the torment of Hell, and they will have the punishment of the burning Fire.

    • duh_swami says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 5:05 am

      NO DEATH PUNISHMENT FOR BURNING QURAN

      So Shabeer, are you ‘slandering’ your brothers who did this?
      Are you declaring them taqfir? Did they do wrong? Have you contacted any of them about this?

    • Jay Boo says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 10:29 am

      Buckets of blood posing as religion

    • The renegade says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 12:56 pm

      @shabeer – please don’t get lost in the religious mumbo jumbo. Take the “red pill” and wake up.

      What if Muhammad was lying and the Quran is not message from God? Do these thoughts ever cross your Mind and god given intelligence which we as human beings are blessed with or is it too much too ask a Muslim to be a human being first and a Muslim later, I know it is hard but all religion is created by man, why did god wait a zillion years to send Muhammad to distribute these So called Devine laws called Sharia and Quran? Every law in Sharia benefits only men why? Why are women treated like animals and lower life forms – women are our mothers, sisters, daughters, friends, life companions etc. The answer is that Muhammad created these laws to satisfy his sick fantasies and to justify this said god told him to do so and it was god’s Devine message. Again all man made laws. To god, all of god’s children are equal.

      Humanity has been around ions before Muhammad was born and and are worse off after birth of Islam and where Islam goes death, enslavement and destruction follow.

      Wake up from your Islamic fools paradise and smell the innocent blood that Islam has been spilling since it’s inception and correct your path…. Or perish along with Islam….

      Murderers will ultimately have to face punishment and so shall followers of Islam…

      May God have mercy on your souls but history and humanity will never forgive the blood that Islam has spilled for generations….

      Barbarians and monsters will ultimately be vanquished by the virtuous human beings, look at history it is replete with examples.

      Saving your self is in your hands.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 3:46 pm

      The repellent shabeer_hassan wrote:

      DEATH PUNISHMENT DECLARE ONLY FOR KILLING/ADULTERY,
      …………………………………………

      Notice that the repulsive shabeer hassan is fine with murdering people for “Zina”—which is often not even what we mean by adultery, but is any “unlawful sexual activity”, including pre-marital sex, speaking with unrelated men, and even being a victim of rape. What a vicious savage.

      More:

      NO DEATH PUNISHMENT FOR BURNING QURAN

      NO PUNISHMENT WITHOUT COMPLETE PROOF:
      4: 15. And those of your women who commit illegal sexual intercourse, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them (i.e. women) to houses until death comes to them or Allâh ordains for them some (other) way.
      …………………………………………

      Not that almost always applies just to women, as the vile shabeer hassan himself notes. As for the “four witnesses”, this is often used *against* women, as it is virtually impossible to prove rape in Islamic terms without those “four witnesses”,

      More:

      Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 63 :: Hadith 185
      Without proof no punishment, even against Jew: prophet give blood money
      …………………………………………

      “Even against Jew”? Just a bit of casual antisemitism from shabeer hassan.

      What he does not tell you is that not all victims are equal. A Muslim man may never be put to death for murdering a Jew or other Infidel.

      The “Prophet” himself said, “a believer will not be killed for an infidel”.

      As for blood money (Qisas), the Hanafi School of Islamic jurisprudence held that a lesser amount could be paid if a Muslim killed an Infidel, but the Shafi’i and Hanbali Schools hold that it does not apply if the victim is non-Muslim, and the Maliki School actually forbids Qisas in such a case.

      As appalling as the above is, this only applies when the murdered was not the victim of Jihad, “Honor Killing”, or held to be guilty of blasphemy, as this poor victim was.

      In such cases, the murderer is *lauded*.

      Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib: A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah declared that no recompense was payable for her blood.
      — Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4349

      Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet and disparage him. (…) So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. (…) He sat before the Prophet and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon the Prophet said: Oh be witness, no retaliation [Qisas] is payable for her blood.
      — Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4348

      There are many other examples.

      More:

      33: 5. Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with Allâh. But if you know not their father’s (names, call them) your brothers in faith and Mawâlîkum (your freed slaves). And there is no sin on you if you make a mistake therein, except in regard to what your hearts deliberately intend. And Allâh is Ever Oft¬Forgiving, Most Merciful.
      …………………………………………

      Why is shabeer hassan ranting about slavery here? More proof that he is often just spamming.

      More:

      No blood money for accidental CRIME
      Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 40 :: Hadith 545
      Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 105
      chance of blood money:
      2: 178. O you who believe! Al-Qisâs (the Law of Equality in punishment) is prescribed for you in case of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But if the killer is forgiven by the brother (or the relatives, etc.) of the killed against blood money, then adhering to it with fairness and payment of the blood money, to the heir should be made in fairness. This is an alleviation and a mercy from your Lord. So after this whoever transgresses the limits (i.e. kills the killer after taking the blood money), he shall have a painful torment.
      …………………………………………

      How does this apply in the least in this case?

      More:

      NO PUNISHMENT FOR WEAK/LUNATIC PERSON

      Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4388
      ……… the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: There are three (people) whose actions are not recorded: A boy till he reaches puberty, a sleeper till he awakes, a lunatic till he is restored to reason. This is an idiot (mad) woman belonging to the family of so and so. Someone might have done this action with her when she suffered the fit of lunacy. ………….

      Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4387
      Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
      Ibn Abbas said: A lunatic woman passed by Ali ibn AbuTalib. He then mentioned the rest of the tradition to the same effect as Uthman mentioned. This version has: Do you not remember that the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) has said: There are three whose actions are not recorded: a lunatic whose mind is deranged till he is restored to consciousness, a sleeper till he awakes, and a boy till he reaches puberty?
      …………………………………………

      Why isn’t shabeer hassan taking this up with his fellow Muslims in Afghanistan? After all, a Muslim cleric and police official condoned this lynching, as did, of course, the mob itself.

      If we were to heartily agree with what what shabeer hassan posits here—that the mentally ill are never murdered by Muslims—will it somehow bring her back to life?

      Actually, Muslim mobs murdering the mentally ill and developmentally disabled are very common.

      More:

      Forbid burning human:
      Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 84 :: Hadith 57
      85:10. Verily, those who put into trial the believing men and believing women (by torturing them and burning them), and then do not turn in repentance, (to Allâh), will have the torment of Hell, and they will have the punishment of the burning Fire.
      …………………………………………

      Several interesting things here. Firstly, the loathsome shabeer hassan appears to have no problem with this woman being beaten to death and hit in the head with a brick—just with her being burned.

      There is a precedent for this:

      Narrated ‘Ikrima:

      Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”
      Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57

      In other words, murdering blasphemers is just fine; the only quibble is with the method used.

      And note that in the Qur’an quote he cites, this refers to torturing the “believers”—someone accused of burning a Qur’an would, through the handy doctrine of Takfir, hardly be considered a believer.

      One final point: the Qur’an quote does not actually mention burning, in any case, except as punish for those who harm believing Muslims. The insertion is not original to the text. Come to think of it, altering the text of the Qur’an makes shabeer hassan *himself* a “blasphemer”.

      Since this is being used as Taqiyya to fool the filthy Kuffar, though, it is probably acceptable under Islam.

      We come back to the main point, as always with shabeer hassan’s spam, though: if he truly believes that Islam forbids this barbarism, why isn’t he taking it up with his coreligionists, and trying to convince them that murdering this poor woman was wrong?

      Instead, he is spending his time here, spamming the good Infidels at Jihad Watch, which exposes his agenda.

    • ATO1965 says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 5:08 pm

      And your point is?

    • Mohamadamadingdong says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 11:45 pm

      Shabeer, I would so much like to meet you then proceed to beat you to a bloody pulp, just to let really feel what millions of innocent men, women, and children have felt at the hands of your fellow muslims for the last 1,400 years. You week after week see the vileness of what islam does to people around the world and instead of apology we get nothing but defense of your evil cult. I don’t think I have ever hated a man as much as you Shabeer.
      Rot in Hell rat brain.

    • tess says

      Mar 28, 2015 at 6:06 am

      what are these men that they mutilate, abuse, violently kill women and little girls — are they just cowards picking on children and women too scared and brainwashed to think of defending themselves, or are they mental or have a small small deficiency in the physical department.
      This woman is a matyr who will go to heaven and receive seven non-muslim men who will love honour respect and wait upon her for eternity.

  6. Gary says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 4:39 am

    Jesus told his disciples what to expect in the coming days…….

    “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.”

    John 16:1-2

  7. Gary says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 4:43 am

    The difference between Christians & Muslims….

    Burn the Bible.. Christians will pray for your lost soul.

    Burn the Koran… Muslims will burn you.

    Religion of peace…. You decide.

    • shabeer_hassan says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 10:10 am

      NOT THAT LIKE THIS….

      A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

      Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
      the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. And they raised over him a great heap of stones to this day. So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger: wherefore the name of that place was called the valley of Achor to this day. (Joshua 7:19-26 Webster’s Bible)

      ISLAM EVER BURN HUMAN……..PROHIBITED BURNING EVEN BEES
      Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
      Do not kill women or children or an aged, weak person,Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees.Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty,
      Forbid burning human:
      Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 84 :: Hadith 57

      • Jack Diamond says

        Mar 22, 2015 at 12:33 pm

        Then how come Muhammad ordered the fortifications of the Al-Mustalaq to be set on fire even though women and children were inside? Or Kinanah to be tortured by having his chest set on fire? Or talked about setting fire to the houses of bad Muslims who did not attend prayer? What about the bad Muslims who talked against Muhammad’s military expedition against the Byzantines and he ordered the house they were congregated at burned down on top of them? Did Muhammad not know his own rules?

        What about his close companions after him… Abu Bakr, who had a captive who had fought Muslims brought to him and “ordered a fire to be kindled with much firewood in the prayer yard of Medina and threw him, with arms and legs bound, into it”? That’s from Tabari. Reliable? What did Abu Bakr tell Muhammad’s favorite warrior Khalid, the Sword of Allah, about the Bani Hanifah? “Put the captives among them to the sword and strike terror among them by killing and burn them by fire.”

        Burn them by fire. But perhaps he never burned any bees.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 22, 2015 at 4:00 pm

        More crap from shabeer_hassan wrote:

        A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
        ………………………………….

        No Jews or Christians are doing this. The odd thing is that women are brutally murdered in Islam on a regular basis for “committing fornication” (“Zina”).

        More:

        the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. And they raised over him a great heap of stones to this day. So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger: wherefore the name of that place was called the valley of Achor to this day. (Joshua 7:19-26 Webster’s Bible)
        ………………………………….

        This is more of the same. No Jew or Christian is doing this. In fact, Jesus famously disallowed stoning, saving the woman taken in adultery.

        However, pious Muslims stone victims accused of “Zina” on a regular basis.

        How inept is this Taqiyya artist, anyway?

        More:

        Do not steal from the booty,
        ………………………………….

        Why does shabeer hassan keep posting this? This is just an injunction to Muslim *not to steal from other Muslims* who have pillaged Infidels. “The booty” includes not just stolen goods, but also slaves and sex slaves.

        More:

        Forbid burning human:
        Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 84 :: Hadith 57
        ………………………………….

        I posted the content of this Hadith, above. Here pious Muslims have no problem with murdering atheists, blasphemers, and apostates, but just quibble over the method used.

        In any case, it sounds as though this woman’s body may have been burned *after* she was beaten to death, which should make it perfectly Halal. *Ugh*.

      • ATO1965 says

        Mar 22, 2015 at 5:11 pm

        Actions speak louder than words. And Evil is Evil.

  8. Michael Copeland says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    One day Shabeer might grasp that the Old Testament is not part of US law.
    We may hope.
    The Koran, in contrast, is – all of it – PART OF ISLAMIC LAW. One who denies any verse has to be killed. The killing can be performed without legal repercussion by anyone “since it is killing someone who deserves to die” (Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller” o8.4). This was well known to the jihadi killers of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists: “If someone offends the prophet no problem, we can kill him”. Defiling a Koran is an insult to Allah.

  9. Xero_G says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    The video resembled a group of chimpanzees attacking and killing one of their own. Mindless shouts of “Allahu Akbar” resembled primate screams – only thing missing was the flinging of feces.

    • ATO1965 says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      Fece slinging took place on the way home. Hope they washed their hands before handling the family goat.

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