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Australia foils 230 Muslims trying to leave the country to join the jihad

Mar 26, 2015 9:11 pm By Robert Spencer

Australia policeIs this supposed to be a feel-good story? A “Wow, the counterterrorism squads are doing a great job” story? But what now? Australia authorities aren’t going to dare to do a single thing to disabuse these young Muslims of their jihadist sentiments. So now that they have been prevented from going to the Islamic State, what if they decide to wage jihad at home? Wouldn’t it have been wiser to let them go and not let them return?

“Australia says 230 foiled in bid to join jihad,” Associated Press, March 26, 2015:

CANBERRA, Australia — Counterterrorism squads have prevented 230 suspected jihadists from departing Australian airports for the Middle East this month, including at least three teenage boys, officials said Wednesday.

Officials had previously announced that two Sydney-born brothers, ages 16 and 17, were intercepted at Sydney International Airport on March 8 attempting to board a flight for Turkey without their parents’ knowledge. The siblings were returned to their family and were to be charged.

Within a week, a 17-yearold boy was intercepted at the same airport on suspicion that he was headed for a Middle Eastern battle, Border Protection Minister Peter Dutton said Wednesday.

The boy was again returned to his family, but remains under investigation, Dutton said.

Since counterterrorism units were attached to eight Australian airports in August, 86,000 travelers have been questioned and 230 people prevented from flying on suspicion that they were headed for the battlefields of Iraq and Syria to fight with groups including the Islamic State, Prime Minister Tony Abbott told Parliament. Experts disagree about why the Islamic State has been so effective recruiting in Australia, which is widely regarded as a multicultural success story, with an economy in a 24thstraight year of growth….

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  1. rhondakelly07 says

    Mar 26, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    Because they can’t wait to butcher babies…They cant wait to tourcher women..LYINCH men ,, kill animals….Have sex with new borns babies boys , girls them chop them up MUSLIMS ARE SATAN’S, DEMOCRATIC ARMY..RACIST..RACE CARD THROWING TRASH..

    • Shane Wilkinson says

      Mar 30, 2015 at 1:22 am

      so true!

    • Marko says

      Mar 30, 2015 at 3:40 am

      Why the hell are we stopping them! let the scum go and hopefully they wont come back cause their dead or just cancel their passports anyway. We don’t want or need them.

  2. Duck says

    Mar 26, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Why not let them go and not allow them to return? If they survive.

    • Godwin says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 4:32 am

      Yes, by all means let these trouble-makers go n never let them come back. if they stay back, they may cause troubles.

      • von says

        Mar 27, 2015 at 6:37 am

        Not letting them back in would be the right thing to do.
        All should be charged with treason and punishable by death.
        if they find their way back in.

    • Shane says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 3:53 pm

      Let them go and take away their passports and citizenship. We should take up a collection and send all Western Muslims who want to engage in jihad to the Middle East and never let them return.

  3. RonaldB says

    Mar 26, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    I do not agree with the sentiment of allowing them to go and not allowing them to return.

    Morally, it’s not correct for your country to allow a citizen to travel when you know their intention is to murder people in another country. We are not responsible for other people, nor for allowing people to immigrate in simply because the people are persecuted. But, we are responsible for not allowing avowed killers to go on a killing spree in another country.

    I believe it would be more moral to permanently incarcerate would-be ISIS fighters in an isolated prison where they can dawah each other. I also think a law should be passed which would make this sort of action a legal pathway.

    I agree with the desirability of getting these people out, but it seems wrong to look the other way as they leave, with the intention of murdering innocent people who don’t happen to be citizens of Australia.

    • Volumetric says

      Mar 26, 2015 at 11:46 pm

      They should be allowed to go and if they are stupid are stupid enough to return they can face the consequences. Basing a law on intent is just opening a can of legally slippery worms (look how David Hicks is free and wandering about asking for money and apologies. An innocent man? Technically. Yeah, “Technically ” is cool man). Stopping them from going is like keeping hundreds of rattlesnakes “incarcerated”
      in a kindergaten playpen.

    • Arthur says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 12:04 am

      I agree! Letting them go kill innocent minority Christian populations is no solution. A law against efforts to support an enemy state should allow them to be convicted and sentenced to life in prison. Put them on a chain gang so they can learn the point of view of a slave, since slavery seems a fundamental Islamic right. It’s probably the only way to get any productivity out them anyway.

      • Duck says

        Mar 27, 2015 at 5:57 pm

        Keep in mind, most of the killing wanted to be done by these wanna be jihadists is most likely to kill other “apostate” muslims. That’s not a bad thing as I see it.

        • kikorikid says

          Mar 27, 2015 at 10:39 pm

          The Duck said it. The world is on the cusp of a very significant conflict
          between religious Sects in Islam, the Sunni-Shi’ite Schism.
          Nothing will mitigate the conflict. Nothing.
          Everyone on the outside of Islam should just sit back
          and let them cut each others throats.

    • Mel Brigg says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 6:48 am

      Ronald i agree totally, but i would say arrest them, and jail them with the appropriate phycological help, and keep them there until they have proven to be peaceful law abiding Australians……should they not show signs of attitude changes, or be deemed incapable of accepting our democratic way of life..then through the key away!

  4. Don McKellar says

    Mar 26, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    “Wouldn’t it have been wiser to let them go and not let them return?”

    Always. Always. ALWAYS. IN ALL CASES, FOR ALL COUNTRIES. To do otherwise is completely idiotic and short-sighted.

    ****** ATTENTION LAW FIRMS!!! *****
    In fact, any governments who do this are now opening themselves up for LAWSUITS from future victims for gross irresponsibility with regards to a clear and present danger to the citizens they are supposed to be protecting. Because that is EXACTLY what they are doing.
    ***** ATTENTION LAW FIRMS!!! *****

    • Volumetric says

      Mar 26, 2015 at 11:54 pm

      Clarify.
      Any governments who do what?
      How are the supposed victims victimised?

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 27, 2015 at 5:56 pm

        Volumetric wrote:

        How are the supposed victims victimised?
        ………………………….

        If any Australians are harmed by these Jihadists, you don’t consider them victims? Why not?

  5. No Fear says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 2:09 am

    I am Australian. During World War 2 the government jailed Jehovah’s Witnesses who refused to fight (they are pacifists and will not kill anyone intentionally). The Australian Government should arrest those who leave the country to fight for ISIS and try them for treason. Why should Jihadis be treated better than pacifist Jehovah’s Witnesses?

    • PRCS says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 1:33 pm

      Let me ask: would it have been better to use those folks in some beneficial capacity rather than incarcerating them–at taxpayer expense?

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 27, 2015 at 6:06 pm

        Yes, I agree. They could have done some sort of civilian service, I’m sure.

        I was in contact through Amnesty International with a Jehovah’s Witness jailed in Greece during the early ’90s for just this reason. It not only seemed unjust, but also a terrible waste.

        But I believe No Fear’s basic point holds—that violent Jihadists are being treated better than pacifist Jehovah’s Witnesses is simply madness.

  6. No Fear says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 2:17 am

    230 Jihadis. That is about 1/1000 Australian muslims. For every one who actually attempts to go there are probably ten who would like to go but haven’t got the guts to do it. That is 1/100 or 1% of muslims.

    Approximately 4% of Nazis did all the damage, the rest were ‘moderates’ who thought Hitler was a force for good..

    • particolor says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 4:49 am

      Now look what we’ve got ! 230 (Known) Barbarians with Mental Illness walking the Streets ?? 🙁
      With “Moderate” Backing !!

  7. Eric says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 7:01 am

    Put them on a plane and kick then off at 50000 feethat.

  8. Kasey says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 7:20 am

    That now means there are 230 potential jihadists still living here inclined to do some dirty work as part of our “successful” multiculturallsm, strongly promoted by the Left and its supporters. It was a prg of success up to 1980 for an M/C melting pot, but after that, the influx of Islamic refugees and legal migrants changed all of that. But the pretence is still kept up by much of the establishment via appeasement, to claim it as still of total success. Unfortunately, migrants from other sources still support that concept believing it gives them more recognition. Hard as it may be, their new nation needs them as Australians like the rest of us. Too many Islamic migrants and their children only “interact” with our society, but never integrate or assimilate. That has even been stated regarding “interaction” in some Islamic school aims for making their students “total Muslims”.

  9. fred bartholomeusz says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 7:41 am

    These so called jihadist fighters should be allowed to leave our shores when ever they choose. Once they have gone they should be listed never to return and banned from all assistance from the Australian Government or any other party in Australia. With Allahs help they should all die a miserable death in the Middle East.

    • Duck says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 6:00 pm

      Now as we see it, too bad the muslims were let in to start with. Like inviting cancer.

      • EYESOPEN says

        Mar 27, 2015 at 6:43 pm

        Concur.

  10. mortimer says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 8:23 am

    So…several hundred (presumably) young jihadists are free to walk the streets in Australia looking for an opportunity to slaughter infidels.

    The police and authorities do nothing to change their minds…nor do the mosques…nor do the schools…nor do Islamic organizations. It looks as if everyone TACITLY agrees that jihad is normative Islam, rather than an aberration. No one dares to speak against jihad!

  11. Loretta Pienaar says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 8:46 am

    rhondakelly07 and all of you are talking utter sense. Let them go to their caves!!!! SONS OF SATAN!!! PURE EVIL FROM HELL WHENCE THEY WILL RETURN.

  12. Linda Rivera says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    Australian authorities are so proud of themselves they kept the jihadis from leaving so they can perpetrate violent jihad against hated Infidels in Australia. The savages should have all been deported back to their hell hole countries but Australian authorities don’t want to deprive them of waging violent jihad against Australian Infidels.

    You can be sure the barbarians are living as parasites off Australian Infidels.

  13. Carlos Danger says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    Let these rats leave.

    Trip should be one way!

  14. Me says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    Let ’em leave. Track them and kill they and their compatriots with a friggin’ hydro-bomb in BFE Middle East. If nothing else, let them leave and don’t let them return. Duh.

  15. EYESOPEN says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    “Wouldn’t it have been wiser to let them go and not let them return?”

    Yep.

  16. gravenimage says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    Australia foils 230 Muslims trying to leave the country to join the jihad
    …………………………………..

    As noted, now these fine Jihadists will likely be plotting violent Jihad in Australia itself.

    More:

    Officials had previously announced that two Sydney-born brothers, ages 16 and 17, were intercepted at Sydney International Airport on March 8 attempting to board a flight for Turkey without their parents’ knowledge.
    …………………………………..

    Yeah—maybe, maybe not. It could be that the parents were just using Taqiyya to cover their asses. And even if they hadn’t given specific permission for the “kids” to run off and join the Islamic State, had they taught them the Islamic values that would lead them to want to do so?

    What about their Mosque? Will anyone be asking these questions?

    More:

    Experts disagree about why the Islamic State has been so effective recruiting in Australia, which is widely regarded as a multicultural success story, with an economy in a 24thstraight year of growth….
    …………………………………..

    What idiocy. This has nothing to do with how economically successful a Muslim’s host country is. The opportunities in *any* nation in the West are so much greater than those in Dar-al-Islam that none of them would *ever* leave for the Muslim world if economics were the issue.

    Moreover—except for booty and slave labor—what economic “benefits” is one apt to find in an active *Jihad war zone*?

    The idea that the attraction of the Caliphate is primarily economic is just brainless, and indicates a complete lack of understanding of Islam on the part of many in the West.

  17. particolor says

    Mar 28, 2015 at 2:29 am

    If there is Any Multicultural Success story here…. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM !!

  18. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 28, 2015 at 8:22 am

    I’d rather let them go and then cancel their passports and citizenship status – or else hit them with a sentence of “Exile For The Term of Your Natural Life”, or declare them Outlaw.

    if present laws don’t allow this then present laws can be changed…and changed so as to apply to Mohammedans, specifically, because of the unique danger represented by the Mohammedan system.

    As for those who are worrying about what these creeps will do in Syria and Iraq: the people who are endangered by them are the Syrian Christians, whether in Iraq or Syria.

    So the thing to do is to *remove* those people from harm’s way. So our government has a nice quiet talk to the bona fide Assyrian Chrisitian emigre leaders already in Australia and asks them to assist with the identification and processing of suitable applicants, and then consults with the Americans and – yes, if necessary, the Russians – and…offers 230 refugee/ humanitarian/ asylum places to Assyrian / Syrian Christian refugees. Whose applications will *not* be overseen by any Muslim at any stage of the process.

    That way, we would fill those 230 ‘spots’ left vacant by the departing jihadis, with 230 Christians who might otherwise wind up as murdered victims of Jihadis. Christians who will be genuinely grateful to be offered a home in an as-yet-relatively-safe country, and who will work hard and assimilate into our society.

    Rid ourselves of 230 dangerous, murderous jihadi thugs; replace them with 230 decent, assimilable Assyrian Christians. That’d be the way to do it.

    At every opportunity, we Aussie jihadwatchers *must* start pushing these concepts to our politicians both actual and aspiring.

    And we should be harping on the theme of the necessity of *stopping* all further Muslim immigration: when in hole, stop digging.

    Let Muslims go; don’t let them return.

    Don’t bring any more Muslims in.

    *Instead* of taking in Muslims, prioritise immigration and humanitarian/ asylum visas for rescuing those who in numerous countries are being mercilessly persecuted – genocided, even – by Muslims, focusing on those most endangered right now, that is, Assyrian and Syrian Christians (and being aware that things could get really bad for the Copts or the Maronites, also, at any moment).

  19. Billy Corr says

    Mar 28, 2015 at 9:51 am

    Australia threw the doors open to Muslims from Lebanon out of compassion; members of the the political-media class enjoy preening themselves and congratulating one another for their virtue and goodness.

    Within a few years there were clan-based ‘ethnic’ gangs doing exciting things like forklift ram-raid ATM robberies and airport theft. Soon there were rape gangs and beach harassment.

    Now a new generation wants to be jihadis.

    Lucky Australians!

    • FredvanH says

      Mar 28, 2015 at 1:06 pm

      Try the western european way: here (Belgium, the Netherlands, France, UK, Germany, Sweden, …) they’re literally running after them with money they’re desperate to bestow on them. In exchange for their good behavior. If they only would. Please. That’s how sick and degenerate our societies have become: we’re willing to sustain a bunch people who are above average criminal, violent, seditious, and parasitic, on the sole condition they behave.

  20. FredvanH says

    Mar 28, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    “Wouldn’t it have been wiser to let them go and not let them return?” Yes. And in case any of them should wage jihad on us in the west, in our homes, we should hold those who prevented them from leaving responsible, and they should be punished accordingly. A death sentence for every victim.

  21. Shane says

    Mar 30, 2015 at 1:30 am

    I wish I could like most of the comments here!!!! 😀
    here is a link to my Atheist page on Facebook where I catalog religious atrocities.
    Please like it to keep in touch and learn things you didn’t want to know.
    Education is essential in combating this evil

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  22. Jay says

    Mar 30, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    Us every day Australians have more common sense than the government, for months I have been reading comments where everyone has said, “let them leave and don’t allow them back into our country”
    Fairly obvious isn’t it, if they stop them from leaving, they will build up more hatred towards Australia and Australians. Don’t say you weren’t warned Australian Government when these Jihadist’s start attacking innocent people and destroying our beautiful country!! It’s about time the government started listening to the people.

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