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New York City public schools to have Muslim holidays off

Mar 5, 2015 8:55 am By Robert Spencer

SarsourdeBlasioHindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, etc. should consider flying planes into a couple of New York skyscrapers; then they’ll get their holidays off, too. Because one thing is certain: if Islamic jihadists hadn’t perpetrated the 9/11 attacks, Muslims wouldn’t be getting their holidays onto the school calendar now. Ever since 9/11, Islamic supremacist advocacy groups have labored to deflect attention away from the fact that 3,000 were murdered by people acting in accord with Islamic texts and teachings, and to prevent scrutiny of those teachings and of their communities, by claiming victimhood, claiming that they have been unfairly targeted by law enforcement, claiming that they’re victims of racism and bigotry. Leftist politicians have rushed to accommodate their demands and redress their claimed grievances. This is just another example of that.

“Muslim students and their families who observe Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha shouldn’t have to choose between an instructional day and their religious obligations,” said Farina. This is absurd, of course. Missing a couple of days of public school is hardly a major catastrophe for any child, and people of all beliefs and perspectives and religions have to keep their children out of school now and again for various reasons, with no harm done. If these children wanted to observe these holidays by staying out of school, they could have done so, without imposing the holiday on the non-Muslim students.

The Muslim population of New York, while it is growing, is hardly large enough to justify this. If it’s discrimination against Muslims to have school on Muslim holidays, why isn’t it discrimination against Hindus to have school on Hindu holidays? Because Hindus don’t have loud, aggressive advocacy groups claiming victimhood status and trying to deflect attention away from numerous mass murder attacks and plots in New York City that were inspired and incited by their religious texts.

The centrality of the Islamic supremacist Linda Sarsour, a close associate of New York’s far-Left Mayor Bill de Blasio, to the effort demonstrates what it is really about: this is an effort to reinforce the idea that Islam is in all respects the same kind of thing as Judaism and Christianity, completely benign and wholly and in all ways to be welcomed. (It also is an effort to obscure the Judeo-Christian foundations of this nation.)  The implication is that there is just a tiny minority of extremists who are twisting and hijacking the real thing, but only “Islamophobes” care about them. This will have the effect of further discouraging any honest analysis of how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and supremacism, and of stigmatizing those who perform such analysis. And that’s the idea.

“New York City public schools to have Muslim holidays off,” by Greg Botelho, CNN, March 4, 2015:

(CNN)New York City public schools will now observe two Muslim holidays, officials announced Wednesday, making the district — the nation’s biggest — one of the few to put Islamic holy days on its calendar.

Under the change announced by New York Mayor Bill de Blasio and city Schools Chancellor Carmen Farina, there will be no class for Eid al-Adha, also known as the Festival of Sacrifice, starting next September 24. Another Muslim holiday, Eid al-Fitr — a festival marking the end of the holy month of Ramadan — will become a holiday for those in summer school starting in 2016.

“This is a common-sense change,” de Blasio said Wednesday, “and one that recognizes our growing Muslim community and honors its contributions to our city.”

The decision affects some 1 million students in New York City. While it’s not known exactly how many of them are Muslim, City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito said that almost 1 million of the more than 8 million people in the city’s five boroughs practice Islam and a 2009 Columbia University study found that roughly 10% of New York City public school students are Muslim.

The move isn’t a surprise, given de Blasio’s campaign pledge to alter the school calendar with Muslim families in mind.

“Muslim students and their families who observe Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha shouldn’t have to choose between an instructional day and their religious obligations,” said Farina. “This new addition will also enable a teachable moment in the classroom for our students to learn about religious tolerance and the societal contributions of various cultures.”

Linda Sarsour, executive director of the Arab American Association of New York and the parent of three public school students, said a plan in which students wouldn’t have to choose between education and faith “a win for our children and for future generations in this country.”

“Muslims are a part of the fabric of this country,” she said. “We make our country proud, and today, New York City made us proud.”…

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  1. pumbar says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:01 am

    Supine New York is finished. The dhimmi, staggering, cowering, cowardly people of New York have brought this on themselves.
    I give democracy in New York two weeks.

    • Jay Boo says

      Mar 5, 2015 at 10:42 am

      So sad !!!!!
      Oh dear, Oh my!
      Good gracious, whatever can we do?
      It looks so hopeless. When doomsday comes, take pity on poor, poor me and set me free , all powerful Muzzies — please.
      —————-
      It is not a good sign to see the first comment on a topic to begin on a note of unmitigated surrender without even making an effort to also add any encouraging criticism of Islam or in any way challenge Muslims that might distract from a theme of abject belly-to-the-floor capitulation.
      One thing is certain is that pumbar is well stocked up with white flags of surrender as a plan B.

      Just a few days ago March 3, pumbar did the same thing with the UK when pumbar said, “The UK is finished)”
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/uk-jihad-murderer-family-on-dole-20-years-cost-taxpayers-600000/comment-page-1#comment-1205984

      punbar wishes to surrender NYC and the UK without even a fight.
      When Islam comes knocking on pumbar’s door we can expect pumbar to be “finished” by means of already issuing an advanced notice of surrender.
      You ought to trademark that expression, ( The XXXX is finished) fill in the blank with pumbar.

      • pumbar says

        Mar 5, 2015 at 11:27 am

        If you paid more careful attention you might find the reason behind the posts. As it is, if you, or any fellow muzzies came near anything I am involved in then I would be very unhappy about your OH&S opportunities.

        • Jay Boo says

          Mar 5, 2015 at 1:39 pm

          @pumbar
          OH&S opportunities?
          Are you making a threat while hiding behind sarcasm?
          —————
          pumbar said,
          {“As it is, if you, or any fellow muzzies came near anything I am involved in ”
          pumbar is calling me Muzzie while implying that he is on a secret agent man covert anti-jihad mission.

          Not Impressed in the least.
          Horrendous

        • pumbar says

          Mar 6, 2015 at 1:57 am

          I’m not here to impress you. Why don’t you take your paranoia elsewhere?

      • Mirren10 says

        Mar 5, 2015 at 12:48 pm

        As pumbar says, if you paid any attention to what people say, and why they say it, instead of gleefully jumping on something you think will get you some attention, you would realise that pumbar is making satirical reference to the all too frequent remarks made by some here, and alas, even Robert himself, to the idea that the *UK* is supine, cowardly, and finished.

        • Jay Boo says

          Mar 5, 2015 at 1:30 pm

          @Mirren10
          Just as expected, you could not resist.
          You truly embarrass yourself M10.
          You have in the past let loose a torrential display at commenters who have said that the UK is finished and I respect that, but now you lower your own supposed ‘principles’ so easily for a tawdry opportunity to partner up with an unholy alliance of (the enemy of my enemy is my friend opportunistic attack). This reflects poorly on your character. I suggest that you try to work on that a bit. BTW your comments about being an agnostic but then regularly changing up with sudden appeals to God when convenient to score points and your stating how much reverence you have for the Bible especially the KJV are embarrassing to read. While I really sincerely did try to give you a free pass on this and I am sure that others were too kind to make an issue of it, I must tell you that it is rather transparent. You should use Wellington as a proper example of how to be an agnostic who is sincerely respectful toward Christianity yet is his own person. Whatever principles you decide to follow please be more consistent.
          As a long time commenter, you truly should know better.

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 5, 2015 at 2:53 pm

          As I said to you on another thread, you don’t deserve the compliment of rational opposition.

          Run along.

        • pumbar says

          Mar 5, 2015 at 10:31 pm

          What Mirren said.

  2. Buraq says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:04 am

    And the next step is let Muslim kids off classes to pray. That means prayer rooms to be set aside, teachers to allow kids to skip off classes, etc….. And once the ball starts rolling, ALL the kids will have to observe prayer times — just out of respect, of course!

    Clowns!

  3. Mirren10 says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:07 am

    ”Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, etc. should consider flying planes into a couple of New York skyscrapers; then they’ll get their holidays off, too”

    And Wiccans, and Satanists, and Shintoists, and animists, and Zoaroastrians, and native American religious holidays, if they have them, and all pagans, and we mustn’t forget atheists, either …

    Gosh, soon there won’t be any need to open schools **at all** !

  4. The Doctor says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:15 am

    “This is a common-sense change,” de Blasio said Wednesday, “and one that recognizes our growing Muslim community and honors its contributions to our city.”

    Yea – contributions… massive “redecoration” of lower Manhattan and the deaths of over 3000 people. That’s Islam’s contribution to New York.

    As someone else already asked, what’s next? Time off to pray? It looks like the dhuhr prayer time is around noon and the next one, asr, is around 3:20 today in NYC. It varies, of course, because it’s based on the lunar cycle (because Allah is actually a pagan moon god). Now the school will need to have an imam come in (for some sizable honorarium, most likely) and determine the proper prayer times so teachers can schedule exams around them, etc. Foot baths in the restrooms and special prayer rooms will need to be added… with some form of security on the prayer room since infidels can’t be allowed in there because their presence would defile the prayer room.

    Muslims need to learn to adapt to where they are, not try to force the civilised world to adapt to them.

  5. Daigh says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:44 am

    “Muslims are a part of the fabric of this country,”

    Yes, exactly! The fabric used in burial shrouds with which to bury this country.

  6. mortimer says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:51 am

    Every lost learning day puts students behind. This is a foolish move and should be stopped. The children and their parents are losers. Parents must pay for childcare on the days off while they do not get extra money at their jobs for such days.

    Bad ideas from de Blasio who should be rewarded as Dhimmi of the Year.

    • somehistory says

      Mar 5, 2015 at 7:49 pm

      Too true. And what about the required number the state says schools must be open? Do they then take away a day of the vacation to make up for the lost time as they do when schools are closed due to weather? I’m thankful I have no children in school there. The stress must be horrendous.

  7. citycat says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:53 am

    Attention is being deflected from one aspect of Islam to another
    Which is the heal cause?
    All of them make up the Islamic take over

  8. WolfmanJack says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 10:01 am

    Mark Steyn has an illuminating article on this sort of fifth column, insidious creeping sharia making its way unopposed into Canadian schools; “How Unclean Was My Valley”

    https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/canada-2011-muslim-girls-sit-in-back-menstruating-muslim-girls-in-very-back-pic/

  9. gary says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 10:13 am

    Make accommodations for a lie and deny the truth……

    “Beloved, while I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I was constrained to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
    For there are certain men who crept in secretly, even those who were long ago written about for this condemnation: ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into indecency, and denying our only Master, God, and Lord, Jesus Christ.”

    Jude 1:3-4

  10. Don McKellar says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 10:21 am

    Madness. Crazed leftist delusional madness. Devout moslems attack and destroy major sites in your city, murdering thousands to make you submit to Islam, and as soon as some leftist fool mayor gets in, he makes your city submit in every way he can.

  11. P says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 10:23 am

    WHAT IS WORNG WITH THIS COUNRTY. …! !!!!! NEW YORK – WHY DON’T YOU JUST HAND

    OVER YOUR CITY TO THE MUSLIMS ON A SLIVER PLATTER … YOU DESERVE WHAT IS

    COMING YOUR WAY….

    HOPEFULLY THE OTHER STATES CAN LEARN FROM YOUR B-I-G MISTAKE….

  12. tilda says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 10:54 am

    So much for separation of mosque and state [city].

  13. Aardvark says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 11:54 am

    Coincidentally, those two mohammedan holidays happen to fall on Roast Pork Day and BLT Day!

    I hope all readers here will be observing those delicious (and civilised) holidays – religiously! Let’s make sure the air of civilised Western cities is redolent with bacon and crackling odours during those two days!

  14. mariam rove says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    This is actually nothing new. I live in NJ and in New Brunswick there is a high population muslims and the have muslims holidays. m

  15. Wakingwest says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    The mayor and others are not only acquiescing to the sensibilities of another “religion” but to a “religion” imbued with an evil doctrine which is suprematist, glorifies a sadistic murderer, a peadphile, calls for beheadings and conquest and many more criminally insane edicts. A “religion” wich is quite dangerous to the general public. How can this offical so blindly ignore islams brutal murering legacy?

  16. ApolloSpeaks says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    THE COMING OF ALL FAITHS DAY

    Behind Christians, Jews and Moslems New York City has a large Hindu (Indian) and Buddhist (Chinese-Korean) population. Why shouldn’t De Blasio consider their religious sensitivies and close public schools in observance for Hindu and Buddhist holidays? And why stop there? Why not holidays for Mormons, Wiccans, Satanists, atheists (Christopher Hitchens’ death day when he became nothing comes to mind) and Jehovah Witnesses? Taken to its logical conclusion secular leftists like De Blasio (whose real religion is Progressivism worshipping the State as their God) are paving the way for all religious groups in the city wanting an official holiday for themselves-with this eventually spreading to Philadelphia, Chicago, San Fransisco, Dallas and Los Angeles, etc. And the cacophony and chaos this will cause locally and nationally will be so great (with children missing too many school days) that the solution will have to be the end of all religious holidays and their collapse into a single day of celebrating all religions called ALL FAITHS DAY

    http://www.apollospeaks.com

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Mar 5, 2015 at 1:26 pm

      All Faiths Day? Nah, that would not be as effective in pushing cultural diversity right into a person’s face. Members of other faiths should be treated the same as the Muslims and have their holy days also recognized with school holidays in New York. For example, Roman Catholics should seek to have everyone be given the opportunity to learn about religious tolerance by taking the following days off:

      Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God (already a federal holiday as New Year’s Day) – January 1
      Ascension of Jesus – 39 days after Easter Sunday
      Assumption of Mary – August 15
      All Saints’ Day – November 1
      Feast of the Immaculate Conception – December 8
      Christmas – December 25 (already a federal holiday)

      The above days are considered holy days of obligation for Roman Catholics in the United States, meaning Roman Catholics should attend Mass and refrain from servile work on those days. Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and others should ask to have their special holy days recognized too throughout the year – in the interest of fairness, tolerance and cultural diversity, that is..

      What about it, Mayor de Blasio?.

      • ApolloSpeaks says

        Mar 5, 2015 at 4:05 pm

        Should “diversity” become discord with every religious group large and small clamoring for their specially recognized holy day an “All Faiths Day,” I think, would be a possible solution to quiet things. A rough analogy would be Presidents’ Day replacing the holidays for Washington and Lincoln.

        Don’t misunderstand me. I’m a conservative and want to keep things as they are. But “progressives” like de Blasio who blindly love change (caring nothing for the consequences) are opening a Pandora’s Box.of conflict and strife.

        • CogitoErgoSum says

          Mar 5, 2015 at 5:15 pm

          I see your point, Apollo, but if recognition of diversity and encouragement of tolerance for all religious beliefs is the goal, a generic All Faiths Day seems to miss the mark. It’s too bland and “non-diverse.” Come to think about it though, I would say we in the U.S. already have such a day which is currently called Thanksgiving Day. No, diversity should be something that hits you right between the eyes and makes you see how different the other guy is from you ……. and you should be made to recognize that you MUST tolerate all of the other guy’s differences … otherwise, you don’t really have cultural diversity, do you?. Am I sounding multicultural enough?

          Seriously though, my point is that the only religious holiday celebrated in the U.S. today is Christmas and that day is hardly recognizable as a religious HOLY day anymore. Now the Muslims in New York are given TWO holy days as legal school holidays which everyone must recognize regardless of religious belief. How is that not showing favoritism toward a specific religion? I might also add that this favored religion called Islam has within its scriptures the stated goal of wiping out all other religions … so how much more anti-multicultural can you be than that?. Not very, in my opinion.

        • ApolloSpeaks says

          Mar 5, 2015 at 5:43 pm

          In the time ahead we’ll see how New York’s non-monotheistic community reacts to de Blasio’s butt kissing move with those poor hated victimized Moslems he bleeds for. .

  17. Angemon says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    “This is a common-sense change,” de Blasio said Wednesday, “and one that recognizes our growing Muslim community and honors its contributions to our city.”

    Oh, for f***’s sake. It’s not common sense, it’s stupidity. What’s next, stop observing non-muslim holidays and forcing students to come to school?

    And exactly what did muslims do to “contribute” or “honor” NYC? Muslims acting upon islamic orthodoxy flew planes into the WTC and other muslims tried to rub salt on the wound with the “Ground Zero mosque”.

  18. Jeff says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 1:55 pm

    I’m making plans to head to Mecca this next December to celebrate Christmas. I’ll probably have to bring my own tree and lights. Are there any electrical outlets around the Kabba?

  19. Champ says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    Speaking of holidays …

    Happy Purim our Jewish friends!! ✡

    “Considered one of the most joyous festivals of the Jewish year, Purim commemorates the biblical event when Jewish people were saved from extermination in the ancient Persian Empire.”

  20. Georgia Binaj says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    I wish de Blasio didn’t take a photo hugging that Muslima. Now her family will have to murder her in an honor killing! Shame on you, Bill. Her blood is on your hands!

  21. Wellington says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    The photo alone says a lot——-a picture being worth a thousand words and all that.

  22. Jaladhi says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    Now just wait for the 9/11 site mosque to be built!! Islam’s friends in NYC and America will make sure it to happen!! Can anyone truly understand or answer what is wrong with our politicians that they like Islam and Muslims (who are always attacking us) more than their native countrymen??

  23. trust says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    Why weren’t parents or city dwellers allowed to vote on this? How soon we forget those murdered on 9/11.

  24. Peggy says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    Just when you think it can’t get any crazier, it does.
    These people who hold public office most certainly don’t represent us. They are there because we keep electing them but they are working against us.
    What happened to majority rule? I guess this is what you get when you are fed a steady diet of propaganda for years. You become intelligence deficient and will vote for any idiot.

  25. somehistory says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    Next will come no pork meals served to any children, only horribly sacrificed meats preyed over (yes, p r e yed) by an unclean muslim man who will be paid for saying words that are insulting to non-muslims with functioning brains and ethical values, and no child will be allowed to bring food from home that is *unnapproved* by worshippers of the beast that is called islam.

    How long before all females will be required to wear a scarf to school in NYC? How long before girls are sent to their own rooms from the boys or made to sit in the back? How long before the imams will be the ones teaching…islam, only islam, nothing but islam?

    (Revelation 13: the beast is demanding worship from all…no matter where one may live.)

  26. abad says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    Hey they need time to go to their terrorist training center (mosque) and plot ways to kill non-Muslims

  27. jane says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    Take your children out of school !! I did !! Why would I submit them to this?

  28. Dave J says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    This crosses a line. The crucial but overlooked point is that any religious family can pull their kids out of school for the occasional holy day, as can any non-religious family. Maybe there is a unique opportunity for a child to experience a day on the ocean or a magnificent concert. No harm done, at least in the second case.

    But to incorporate a new Muslim holiday(s) for ALL children is a craven and misguided act that masquerades as “respectful” and “tolerant” while actually oppressing others and sabotaging reality based education.

    It is absurd and bad policy. This needs to be rescinded immediately.

  29. pongidae rex says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    Islamic Terrorism is effective and works to achieve political ends. Any other possible interpretation?

    • M S case says

      Mar 6, 2015 at 7:37 pm

      There are several Christian holidays and Jewish holidays and other religions holidays. Sue NYC if they are not given days off too

      de Blasio “recognizing our growing muslim community and honors it’s contributions” but what if they contribute to ISIS, HAMAS ‘Al QAEDA and how many more. and what about the homegrown terrorist on his streets. They need a holiday too or maybe we need a holiday from them attacking us..Somebody wake up the mayor before he oversleeps and misses everything.

  30. Dick says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    If those days ever become federal holidays and I get either a day off or holiday pay, I’ll celebrate with BLT’s for lunch and a big pork roast with sauerkraut for dinner. With booze, of course.

  31. RonaldB says

    Mar 5, 2015 at 10:46 pm

    Actually, I doubt terrorism had much to do with it. The fact is, that Muslim political groups, funded from abroad and in alliance with leftists and conservatives, are exerting political power. Any group seeks to show its power by having public statues in the park and by having it’s holidays recognized.

    So, the school holiday is a recognition, par excellence, of the power and influence of domestic Muslim groups. They will use this power to suppress police investigation of Muslims. gain recognition for sharia “advisory” tribunals, and insert favorable passages on Islam into educational materials. They will also pressure the police to make it very uncomfortable for distributors of books to sell materials critical of Islam. There is just no end to the number of ways a politically-powerful Islamic community will be able to make its influence know.

    • Patty says

      Mar 7, 2015 at 9:51 am

      We are afraid not to give them what they want. What a shame, what a damn shame.

  32. jay says

    Mar 6, 2015 at 1:13 am

    What about Jews? There are more Jews in NY than in Israel and have been there far longer than any kebabs.

  33. don vito says

    Mar 6, 2015 at 3:49 am

    A photo of the Mayor and the cockroach. Think there is a book or movie to be written, or filmed.

  34. John Mustart South Africa. says

    Mar 6, 2015 at 8:32 am

    I am sorry Robert, but 911 was an inside job. I am a Christian outside of America. I did not want to believe it until I spent 50 hours looking intensely at the evidence. NIST’s report is a fraud and a lie. I have to be honest with the discovery I made. I am also on the same page as AE911TRUTHERS. Just one point I make. Prove that there was a plane that made the hole in the Pentagon. Before you start just note that the engines of the said plane are wider than the hole. That is the distance between the 2 engines of the type of plane that was stated to have hit the Pentagon. I like your JIhaad Watch as it is very informative and I am anti ISLAM. Best regards, John.

    • Beagle says

      Mar 6, 2015 at 9:12 am

      A quick search like “9/11 plane debris pentagon” reveals numerous photos of plane debris inside the Pentagon. One example:
      http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/nodebris.html

      The Pentagon was heavily reinforced and the aluminum plane was traveling over 400 mph. Softer bits of plane disintegrated to bits and subsequently burned. But as you can plainly see, a 757 wheel somehow appeared in the Pentagon.

      Did you even once do a search with “debunk” and your long-disproven ‘theories’? Sad how easily some are duped.

      • John Mustart South Africa. says

        Mar 6, 2015 at 10:32 am

        Hello Beagle. Thank you for your reply. No I have not looked at that debunking video as it was not necessary. A debunking would be based on upholding the original lie. Yes there was a “plane” but it was a Drone that was destructed before it hit the Pentagon approximately 150 or so feet further along the wall. It would have been embarrassing for the perpetrators to have two damaged areas at the Pentagon. The Drone was destructed, it is believed, by a military helicopter which was at the scene. It was destructed 5 minutes after the bombs were detonated where the breach in the wall was. The plane wreckage was minimal and no doubt came from the drone which was marked like an airliner. No doubt throne in front of the hole having been taken from the Drone wreckage.Have you located the engines from the plane? This is the toughest part of a plane and is always found at the scene of an plane crash. No such engines were found. I do not think you are thinking clearly. How can the hole in the Pentagon be narrower than the width from engine to engine on an intact plane. I am afraid you are being duped. Why did the FBI in a flat panic crudely yank off some 85 CCTV cameras from all the surrounding buildings. And why did investigators have to go to court to get just two such cameras released. You can see them on You Tube. See what you make of them. My source (one, possibly the best, of many) is Barbara Honneger (I think I have the spelling correct). It’s a 3 hour video so please be patient. I have been thorough and I could actually produce a book if I wanted to but I have more important things to do. It’s an American problem so believe what you want. I think it was Hitler who said that the bigger the lie the easier it will be believed. Millions of people have been and are being killed and will continue to be killed in the Middle East by weapons from America being sold to all sorts of ugly militants. I am a Christian and many of my brothers and sisters are dying and will continue to die because of America’s weapons sold or supplied free to the Jihadist’s in the Middle East. America has a lot of blood on it’s hands even the blood of it’s own people. And do not tell me I am writing nonsense.

        • Western Canadian says

          Mar 6, 2015 at 1:44 pm

          Take your lunatic drivel and rants to a website where stupid people gather…. If they are stupid enough, they might actually join you in your sick and twisted delusion.

          And yes, I have examined the ‘evidence’, and it is pathetic, and less than weak.

        • John Mustart South Africa. says

          Mar 6, 2015 at 3:00 pm

          Gosh Beagle you are very touchy. Why is it that when people who believe in a lie get so upset as you do. Your language and the way you write is very demeaning to you. I am sad, really sad that you are unable to have a reasonable debate. I thing we should leave it here and agree to disagree as that is what reasonable people do. Ranting does not help anyone. Goodnight and goodbye. I wish you well.

        • John Mustart South Africa. says

          Mar 6, 2015 at 3:09 pm

          Apologies Beagle, I addressed my last reply to you but should have addressed it to Western Canadian. See comment at 3pm of 6 March.

          Go well. Maybe you can pacify Western Canadian for me as he seems to be very upset.

        • Kepha says

          Mar 6, 2015 at 7:35 pm

          @Mustart: Our Christian brothers and sisters are dying in the Middle East by US-supplied arms from an administration that actually wanted to put Troofers in high office.

        • M S case says

          Mar 6, 2015 at 7:45 pm

          Apparently you have never ask anyone who was there… It was a plane!!!!!

        • Western Canadian says

          Mar 7, 2015 at 12:27 am

          Again, I suggest that you take your pitiable and ignorant drivel to a website where the average IQ is the same as room temperature in Alaska, in the middle of January with the heat off and the doors and windows open.

          You are less than pathetic. Your ignorance is boundless, as is your weak and pitiable presumption of some kind of intellectual and ‘special knowledge’ based superiority… You offer NOTHING but the products of weak minded and dishonest fools… all you do is rant, pathetically, against the truth, which is completely alien to you… as is honesty, and civilized discourse.

          Virtually no one on this website is dim enough to join your ignorance based self-promotion, so save your breath, efforts, and bottomless pit of nothing.

        • John Mustart South Africa. says

          Mar 7, 2015 at 6:15 am

          Hello Western Canadian again. Read my reply to Kepha. I am not prepared to enter a gutter level debate which is what you are trying your best to do. I am only prepared to debate with people who speak/write decently. End of debate.

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 7, 2015 at 10:15 am

          You know, Mustart, people like you are in fact the *gullible** ones.

          In order to feel that you are somehow ‘in the know’, and more sophisticated and sceptical than the hoi polloi, you will swallow any amount of nonsense which flies in the face of common sense.

          Are you aware that there are also people who contend that the murder of Lee Rigby, on the streets of my capital city, and *filmed* for all the world to see, was actually a hoax ?

          There are websites devoted to this pernicious nonsense, too, and any amount of silly twits who painstakingly produce maps, photographs etc, to ‘prove’ that it didn’t happen, or that it didn’t happen where it did, or that the murderers were actually paid assassins from MI5, or actors, or that Lee Rigby’s dead body was actually a dummy.

          7/7 also has its idiotic conspiracy theorists, who, in the face of all the evidence and carnage, try to cook up an ‘inside job’ theory. It was MI5, MI6, the murderers were in the pay of the Russians, it was all a hoax, blah, blah, blah.

          The Boston Marathon murders also have websites devoted to the idea that it didn’t happen, it was ‘staged’, or it was an ‘inside job’.

          No doubt, ( I haven’t looked, but it wouldn’t at all surprise me) there are also people who believe that Beslan, Bali, Madrid, Nairobi, in fact, any jihad terror attack ( and there are over 28,000 by now to choose from) was ‘an inside job’, ‘staged’, or is a result of lies and deception concocted by nefarious governments, intelligence agencies et al.

          If you wish to believe in all this asinine claptrap, that’s your prerogative, but in so doing, I’m afraid you just mark yourself out as gullible and foolish, and determined to reject intelligence and common sense.

          For *anything* that happens in this world, there will always be people who will fly in the face of evidence, eye witnesses, etc, in order to concoct insane and ridiculous conspiracy theories.

          Why this should be so, God knows, but the rest of us reasonable and intelligent people can quite safely ignore, reject, and/or laugh at your nonsense.

          And quite frankly, you and your ilk deserve any opprobrium, contempt, and laughter, that comes your way.

        • voegelinian says

          Mar 7, 2015 at 2:40 pm

          The “Big Tent” of the Counter-Jihad needs to be as big as possible, because the movement remains yet so small and relatively ineffective. But even the biggest Big Tent should have its limits — e.g., neo-Nazis, Communists, those who are not anti-Islam; and Truthers.

          Any self-respecting Counter-Jihad movement (or, better, yet, Anti-Islam Movement) would immediately show this upstart, John Mustart, the rear tent flaps for the bum’s rush and deposit his bum politely but firmly on the sward astride the honey buckets out back.

          “Thanks for coming, Mr. Mustart; I believe the highway is that-a-way. If we see you again on the premises, we will call security. Have a nice day. “

    • BC says

      Mar 6, 2015 at 9:49 am

      Even planes that crash on open ground like a hillside often disintegrate into small fragments. A plane crashing into a sold masonry and concrete building suffers even more fragmentation,> if you have spent 50 hours looking at the conspiracy theory nonsense you are probably a gullible fellow of limited intellignce. Those theories do stand up to five minutes of study let alone 50 hours!. I agree that G W Bush was a pretty awful POTUS but the idea that he would intentionally kill nearly three thousand innocent people, including the heroes who tried to save people, just as a pretext to start a war is, well just stupid.
      Even a moments thought about this indicates that keeping things like that secret is impossible and there are plenty of examples to prove it. It si in the sam class as the idea that wolrd govts. know about aliens visiting us and are covering it up!
      Only apologists for Islamic terror come up with these kind of ideas, witness their prevalence in Islamic lands

      • John Mustart South Africa. says

        Mar 6, 2015 at 10:41 am

        Read my comment to Beagle BC. Bush was a Dodo on a puppet string. All he had to do was chew gum as President. You can say what you like or think what you like and good luck. I knew within the first hour that something was fishy and took the next 49 hours to study everything about 911 which is the sensible thing to do. You just believe the lie.

        • John Mustart South Africa. says

          Mar 6, 2015 at 12:46 pm

          Hello again BC. I would just like to apologize for saying that all Mr Bush had to do was to chew gum. This is insulting so I apologize to you and to Mr Bush. Basically what I meant was that it was out of his hands and that he had to toe the line. There are some hard people in your country that control things. Keep well. John

      • Western Canadian says

        Mar 6, 2015 at 1:48 pm

        Your an ill-informed and ignorant fool, who has bought into a lie because it makes you feel superior….. Could suggest you observe videos of an F-4 flying into solid rock, and observe the startling results, but you are as close minded as any ignorant and weak minded fool can be. Because you try hard to be that way. You are not in possession of superior knowledge, you are a low brow sucker and fool.

        • voegelinian says

          Mar 7, 2015 at 2:45 pm

          “Could suggest you observe videos of an F-4 flying into solid rock, and observe the startling results”

          But you see, WC, the Dastardly Forces who manufactured 9/11 have also been able to commandeer and doctor all footage of all plane crashes. They control You Tube, Google, the Internet… If John Mustart were a real Truther, he would realize that he himself was engineered by the government….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to – The OUTER LIMITS.

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 7, 2015 at 3:05 pm

          Nice one, voeg, that was hilarious ! 🙂

          I used to *love* that program.

    • Kepha says

      Mar 6, 2015 at 7:33 pm

      @John Mustart. Yes, 9/11 was an inside job, necklacing is the diehard Afrikaner supremacist version of the Jews-use-Gentile-blood-to-make-matzoh legend, Thabo Mbeki is the world’s biggest advocate for research and treatment of AIDS/HIV, and all governments on the continent of Africa are models of probity and accountability. Also, North Korea is the world’s best example of participatory democracy.

      9/11 as an inside job or Israeli hit or whatever the latest Troofer line happens to be is about the biggest crock of f***l matter ever concocted. You can actually find people in NYC who saw the airplanes hit the twin towers (and, just in case, the Kaddish was recited too many times in the wake of the event for me to EVER consider that it was a Jewish plot).

      Such a conspiracy by the Bush administration would have been a statistical impossibility. For one the change of an administration entails only a few changes at the top in government employment. Most of the rank and file, going all the way up to under secretaries, ambassadors, and generals, remain as administrations come and go. Hence, there’s a lot of ideological diversity from top to bottom in the US Government, and I can assure you that had Dubya Bush tried what the Troofers claim he did, someone would’ve risked it all to be the next John Dean or Deep Throat or Daniel Ellsberg and gone to some major media outlet–which were just about universally hostile to Dubya Bush, and would’ve stuck its collective head up its collective r***um to go after any piece of the Troofer narrative had it been in any sense true.

      As a former officer of the US State Department, I only wish that the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. had 0.00002% of the omnicompetency that so many foreigners and Hollywood types ascribe to them. Quite apart from the game of kriegspiel combined with Wei Qi that is intelligence work, people in those agencies also worry about legally covering their butts, the ethics of their work, and a host of other things that would get in the way hatching a plot of such complexity.

      Even the end of the Cold War, I am convinced, was a matter of Reagan (and the elder Bush) simply settling for letting the Soviets know that if we really, really wanted to, we could p*ss in their back yard, too (regardless of the Ash Heap of History rhetoric)–and being very very surprised when their little stream of salt water washed away the loose sand on which the Communist Empire rested. I can only recall entering the State Department in 1989, when mobs were occupying the streets of Beijing, Shanghai, and other Chinese cities, and Eastern European regimes were tottering all around, and hearing the supposedly best heads in the American foreign policy establishment roaming around saying, “What the f**k is going on?”

      Had 9/11 happened on the watch of a Clinton, a might-have-been Gore, or Obama, your account might be 10% credible, since our MSM would gladly cover for a liberal Democratic administration. But even in that scenario, there’s probably enough journalistic integrity around (it doesn’t take much), for someone to break ranks and run with the story.

      The only secret the US Gov’t can keep is the academic record of Mr. Obama, who is supposedly the most brilliant POTUS we’ve ever had.

      • John Mustart South Africa. says

        Mar 7, 2015 at 6:08 am

        Hello Kepha. Gosh you are touchy as well. Based on what you have written no wonder the US is in a mess. At least I got you to waste your energy on writing basically nothing. Thank you for trying. South Africa has it’s problems for sure and the future looks tough for us but at least we have not slaughtered millions in other countries. Say no more. I am on the same page as AE911TRUTH. How is it that people who defend a lie always go off on a sarcastic, muddle headed rant. I happen to like Americans but sadly it’s the governments who let their countries down as our Government is letting us South Africans down. End of debate everybody. Please refer to AE911TRUTH as I am on the same page as them. They are decent, professional and are very concerned about their country. So should you be.

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 7, 2015 at 10:47 am

          Mustart, I quite realise that there is nothing that will wean you from this nonsense, but please answer me this:

          Why, exactly, do you *want* to believe that the murder of 3,000 Americans was an atrocity committed by their own government ?

          For what reason would the government and President of the US plan to murder 3,000 citizens, and destroy the Twin Towers ?

          What *advantage* to America as a whole accrued from this plot ? Or was it just done for wanton pleasure in murder and destruction ?

          Is the whole of the American government, and the present POTUS, not to mention the American equivalent of our Civil Service, cognizant of, and complicit in this cover up ?

          If so, how do they manage such a colossal undertaking ?

          Do you think the 1994 WTC attack was also an inside job ?

          Do you think the 28,000 jihad murder attacks since 9/11 are also ‘inside jobs’ ? If so, for what reason ?

          Do you think the jihad terror and consquests, and occupations, carried out by Islamic hordes since mohammed cooked up this evil religion, one thousand and four hundred years ago, were ‘inside jobs’ ?

          Were the governments/rulers of India, Spain, Portugal et al, complicit in, and covered up for, their own destruction, and the subjugation of their people ? If so, for what reason ?

          Are the attacks on Israel by Hamas an ‘inside job’ ? Is the Israeli government complicit in, orchestrating, and covering up the attacks on itself, the people and the country ? If so, for what reason ?

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 7, 2015 at 10:50 am

          Mr Mustart, have you ever heard of Occam’s Razor ?

  35. ken says

    Mar 6, 2015 at 8:35 am

    “This is a common-sense change,” de Blasio said Wednesday, “and one that recognizes our growing Muslim community and honors its contributions to our city.”

    Contributions? what contributions… Oh you mean flying planes into buildings and killing innocent people?. Never ending Jihad threats?. Oh yeah those contributions.

    This mayor is a waste.

  36. Ted R. Weiland says

    Mar 6, 2015 at 9:45 am

    Do you think this might have something to do with the late 18th-century founders replacing the First Commandment (found intact in some of the 17th-century Colonial Constitutions) with the First Amendment’s First Commandment-violating, polytheistic-enabling Free Exercise Clause?

    There were no Muslim, no Mosques, and no prayers to Allah in school in the 1600s America.

    For more, see online Chapter 11 “Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt11.html.

  37. Kepha says

    Mar 6, 2015 at 10:26 am

    If it were just about holidays off, I couldn’t care less. I’ve already given makeup work to conscientious students who’ve been missing, understandably, on Eid. I remember from my own school days how they finally got around to giving an official nod to all the students and teachers who pulled leave on Yom Kippur (our community was heavily Jewish back then). I myself have advocated that our local school systems get Chinese New Year’s and perhaps a couple of others off. It would be great for my partly Sinosphere-origin family, and our area is full of other either full or partial Far Eastern heritage.

    The thing that sticks in my craw is the widespread public recognition of and accommodation of Islam. It’s de rigeur to remind everyone how the Christian West once did soooooooooo many bad things; you can even dismiss the ancient Israelites as “bronze age nomads”; but verboten to mention the horrors perpetrated in the name of Islam and still being perpetrated by people who know a damn sight more about Islam than our pontificating official and media stuffed shirts. Our curricula are all aglow about Andaluz, but won’t say a word about the Almohads and Almoravids.

  38. BexarKat says

    Mar 6, 2015 at 11:38 am

    Normally, I would not care about this issue, however Christian holidays are seldom observed throughout America and have been replaced with Winter and Spring “breaks.” The only times that schools are closed on Jewish holidays are when the school population is majority Jewish – or, there is a significant amount of Jews who will miss school that day or days. Muslims are not a majority nor significant (pun intended), anywhere in the United States.

  39. Joseph says

    Mar 6, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    Does anybody know of a faith that has 365 holidays in a year? It would be great to only work one day in four.
    You can’t say Shitlam, that is a political ideology. I wouldn’t join it either, I’d rather have my head chopped off; I’m sure they will try to deliver.

    • Joseph says

      Mar 7, 2015 at 12:36 am

      SORRY, that was “work one day in four years”.
      My bad.

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