In other words, They’re holding a gun to our heads. Give them what they want. Here is yet more indication that terrorism works, which is why we keep seeing more of it: “Give Muslims self-rule or `count body bags`: Philippines` Aquino,” Zee News, March 27, 2015 (thanks to Lookmann):
Manila: Philippine President Benigno Aquino called on lawmakers Friday to pass a bill endorsing a pact aimed at ending a decades-long Muslim separatist rebellion, warning them they would otherwise start counting “body bags”.
Aquino had wanted the bill, which would give autonomy to the majority Catholic nation`s Muslim minority in the south, passed this month.
But Congress suspended debates on the proposed law in the face of public outrage over the killings of 44 police commandoes by Muslim guerrillas in a botched anti-terror raid in January.
The Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), which signed a peace deal a year ago Friday, had said its members fired in self-defence at the commandoes, who passed through a rebel camp while going after Islamic militants.
“This is the crossroads we face: we take pains to forge peace today, or we count body bags tomorrow,” Aquino said in a nationwide television address.
“Perhaps it is easy for you to push for all-out war,” he said, hitting out at critics who have condemned the peace deal with the MILF.
“But if the conflict grows, the number of Filipinos shooting at other Filipinos will grow, and it would not be out of the question that a friend or loved one be one of the people who will end up inside a body bag.”
The rebellion for a separate state or self-rule has claimed nearly 120,000 lives and cost billions of dollars in economic losses, according to government estimates.
Under a peace deal signed with the MILF, the 10,000-member group pledged to disarm while the Philippine government vowed to pass an autonomy law in Muslim areas of the south.
“The Bangsamoro basic law is one of the most important proposed bills of our administration. It answers the two most pressing problems of our countrymen: poverty and violence,” Aquino said Friday.
He warned it would be difficult to restart peace talks if the current process failed and the MILF leadership lost its influence among its members to more radical elements….
mortimer says
Yes, and when the terrorists have a safe haven, they will begin conquering the rest of the Philippines.
Just as Mohammed conquered all of Arabia from his safe haven in Medina.
katherine says
Once the Muslims have secured their bases in Mindanao, the Philippines can start counting bodies by the truckload, not body bags.
What that country needs now is a General like Sisi, not some Catholic appeaser praying for peace at all cost.
rhondakelly07 says
Your going to let Africans, Brown skin people take over your nation . These Democrats breed. take over killl, Get blacks, browns out of your nations..
mortimer says
RK, You are criminally insane. When the FBI finds you, you should be held for life in a psych hospital.
Don McKellar says
You will notice that RK is not a native English speaker. Almost certainly this is a moslem desperately trying to play the racism card and seeing if they can get anybody to jump on board so then, in their minds, they can start calling Jihad Watch readers “racists” — which they overwhelmingly are not in the least.
Jay Boo says
If the ideology Islam were not pathetically indefensible, the Muslim in disguise RK would not be forced to resort to such uncouth tactics.
Islam = uncouth
RG says
@rhondakelly07.
What? You gotta be on drugs, right?!? Just FYI it might interest you to know that a greater percentage of Filipinos ARE BROWN SKINNED!
What’s more, it might also interest you that this ongoing conflict in the Philippines has NOTHING TO DO with racial prejudice – it’s about muzzloid sickos who won’t rest until they’ve destroyed, pillaged and murdered every peace-loving NORMAL Filipino citizen! ARE YOU A MUZZLUM??? You’d probably make a good one!!!
What’s more, it’s because of people like yourself that we had to fight the CIVIL WAR to right the injustices that WHITE EUROPEANS did to their African slaves!
P.S. BTW, I’m a lily white American-born male of German descent! Got any priceless NUGGETS you’d like to share with me… you dork!!!
gravenimage says
rhondakelly has posted this racist tripe here before.
But the fact is that the Jihad threat has *nothing* to do with race—places like the Philippines are every bit as threatened by Islam as is the West.
Islam is *not* a race. I would much rather have ‘blacks or browns’ Infidel neighbors than some Jihad-minded white “revert” building bombs in his basement.
Champ says
For those who come on here claiming that all of us are bigots and haters, then I ask you to please take note of the comment by “rhondakelly07” …this guy demonstrates *true* bigotry. Hey and maybe he’s a time traveler come here from the stone age, just a thought …
mortimer says
Give them self-rule and then count MORE BODY BAGS THAN EVER!
allan carr bryan says
“Count body bags?
“, when are we going to wake up and as a Christian Nation follow the Bible…”An eye for an eye”. If the Muslim Scumbags kill 1 of you , kill 2 of them. They are wanting a War so why don’t the West give them a War. The Muslim people cannot beat the West, even Gadaffi said this. And don’t give me this we’ll kill innocent people, do you think for one minute these savages even think about who they’re murdering
TH says
Unfortunately the only way to deal with Islam is by hitting it as hard as possible and then they will make a temporary cease fire until they gather strength to begin again.
cat says
Dear President Aquino….Please know that in Islam it is permissible to lie…to promote conquer lands. They will never agree to any treaty in which they will stop fighting or killing Catholics in your land. Even if they try to convince you thru terror they will never hold to any agreement. Your country is under seize fight back.
Frank Scarn says
It’s not an either/or situation.
This is how it works. You give them self-rule AND you also begin counting body bags.
Ramon says
“about time the international attention is turned to the crazed Philippine president pushing and iinsisting on granting the Muslims their own substate…despite the citizens’ uproar and opposition, at around 80%!
The government had been quietly railroading this so-called “peace agreement” with the Muslim secessionists, until a botched raid for an international terrorist being coddled by the Muslim rebels resulted in the death of 44 Special Action Commandos, 16 on the rebel’s side and 3 civilians…
Despite the great uproar, the President Benigno Aquino is hell-bent on passing this flawed and bogus peace deal…what’s worse, it is now believed that the main negotiators are Malaysian citizens, and may be holding Phil passports but are signing and traveling in a different name….reminds you of TAQIYAH…?
God help the Philippines….God I hate Islam…
Ma. Dalisay Bernardo says
Can anybody tell Pinoy that Islam is like cancer to the whole world ? Is he reading the news ? Nakakapikon na ah?
Ricky Black says
And I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, Revelation 20:4
Lary Greenlee says
President Aquino is DEAD WRONG on this. The only thing autonomy will give the Muslims is a safe haven to launch further attacks. If the U.S. failures against Muslims can teach you anything, let it teach you that appeasement only invites further aggression. They see it as weakness. The core Muslim desire if for Islam to Rule the world. The only way to avoid that is to fight them until they are crushed. You do not give them self rule. No matter what you do, there will be body bags. The only question is, will they be filled with loyal Filipinos, or Muslim antagonists?
Charli Main says
Looks like he is taking the lead from his Muslim arse kissing master in Rome.
Barbc says
After WWI a group of about 50 Muslims attacked. The military ordered the Muslims to dig a big trench and then they were shot. Then pig carcass were thrown into the pit. All but the youngest. He was instructed to go back and tell what had happened.
Until recently there have been no problems with the Muslims living in the Philippines.
Mac-101 says
I’d say, give em their Island under the condition that ALL non-Muslims would be evacuated from dat Island and ALL Remainin Muslims in the Philippines would be deported to that Island and THEN grant em their independence, never da two shall mix!!
abad says
Exactly what are Muslims doing in the Philippines anyways? They do not belong there
ipfreely says
in a third world country president are easy to assassinate..he might want to chose he words carefully..
Renee says
And pretty soon Europe will follow this example.
American says
Idiot. Does he not understand how he got to this point? He gave an inch, then another inch. Now, he’s giving a mile. They will now reach for the next mile, until there are no longer any non-Muslims left. Idiot. Reminds me of the European “leaders”.
duh_swami says
Frankly my dears, I’m bored with the bickering that goes on at JW…
Mahoundians…If you give them an inch, they will take a mile…It’s better to give them nothing. Anything you do give them will eventually be used against you. The road to Islamic appeasement ends at a gate that says, ” ‘Abandon hope all ye who enter here’.
Larry A. Singleton says
I’m with you swami. I have my little temper tantrums. I’m 60. I’m a poster child for getting f**ked in the ass by the government. I’ve fought the government all my life and what I see happening today depresses the shit out of me. People talk and read about issues; I’ve lived them. I like to read things like Martin Kramer’s rebuttal to Ari Shavit’s book about Lydda. And his “back and forth” with Benny Morris. And an article by Efraim Karsh. I like printing out Spencer’s debates with the assholes who dare to take him on.
But if this guy is a “troll” or whatever you call them, it’s a waste of time and space responding to them. I don’t read the comments here as much as I did a few years ago. And when I did I looked forward to them almost as much as the articles because they were just as informative. I wish I could remember the names of the regulars…in any case, this kinda infantile, adolescent bickering is a turnoff and can be the death of a web site like this. Like I said sometimes I go off on a tirade, (I have trouble with this new format), but someone comes along, slaps me down and puts me in my place and gives me a reality check, I feel like an idiot and that should be that. I like to tell myself; “it’s the issues stupid”.
Larry A. Singleton says
This site needs an “autofill” for names and emails.
And am I getting senile? I got a, “you’ve already said that”, message on my last comment but I don’t remember posting the comment!?!?
Auckland says
I would have said… Give muslims self rule “AND” count body bags
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Give Muslims self-rule or `count body bags.
– Philippine President Benigno Aquino
My only quibble here is that Aquino is being sanguine.
What he shoulda said is, give Moslems self-rule *and* count body bags. Manila gave them that big island in the south years ago now, and still there’s trouble. Appeasing Moslems, or dealing with them in any way, is strictly a one-way street. You can’t win with these guys.
Fritz Kohlhaas says
Aquino is making the biggest mistake of his life which he will regret until the day he dies!
fltom says
Be wise and Do Not let the lying, hating murdering pigs get a shoe in edgewise….Look at Dearborn, Mich for an example….just google muslims in dearborn
David says
MILF? THis has a different meaning in some places.
NikNik says
The Aquinos (him and his mom) have always been pussies when it comes to this issue. Past filipino presidents would not have put up with this islamowhinefest crap.
Joseph says
Sounds like we may need another Gen. Douglas MacArthur. He loved the Philippines and the people.
He thought they were worth fighting for and so do I.
Japan terrorized and murdered these people, the Mudslimes will be no different. This has to stop befre this cancer spreads.
To the Muslim trolls here. DON’T JUST KISS MY ASS, PUCKER UP AND KISS MY BUNGHOLE.
Joseph says
“This has to stop befre this cancer spreads.”
sorry, meant to say before this cancer spreads.
duh_swami says
Appeasement to Islam is the road to ‘Doom’…It’s a wide road and many are on it. But I read the sign, as did many others, that says,’ detour, there’s a muddy road ahead’…They made that into a song and at the time, the infidel singers didn’t know the muddy road led to disaster…but we do now. Someone should teach Benigno Aquino the lyrics and how to hum the tune…
Westman says
I think you’ ve described the core of the problem, Swami.
Historically it’s pay less bags now or many more in the future when dealing with Muslims.
Pakistan was carved out of India to give Muslims self rule. Now they rattle their nuclear sword at India. Imagine the slaughter in both countries if they push the button.
gravenimage says
This is very true, Westman—and look at what has happened in Pakistan—it has gone from being about 25% non-Muslim at partition to *less than 3%* today—the victims have been driven out, kidnapped, forcibly converted, or murdered outright.
What will happen to the southern Philippines Infidels when Muslims are granted “autonomy”?
Arthur says
Whereever Islam is, you will find bodybags.
The question of relevance is who will be in the bag? It would seem logical that if the body in the bag is not a Muslim, then the body is a non-Muslim.
Quite simple, really.
gravenimage says
Philippine President: Give Muslims self-rule or “count body bags”
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How can President Aquino believe he can negotiate with a group that threatens mass murder of his people if he does not comply?
This is nothing but appeasement.
And appeasement only leads to more demands.
More:
Under a peace deal signed with the MILF, the 10,000-member group pledged to disarm while the Philippine government vowed to pass an autonomy law in Muslim areas of the south.
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And what will happen to the Christians and other non-Muslims in this Muslim “autonomous” region? This is not President Aquino’s intent, I am sure, but he is throwing these citizens under the bus here.
And what will the Philippine government do if MILF decides to impose brutal Shari’ah law there? What will they do if this “autonomous” region decides to cede altogether?
More:
“The Bangsamoro basic law is one of the most important proposed bills of our administration. It answers the two most pressing problems of our countrymen: poverty and violence,” Aquino said Friday.
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Such a law will only increase both. Poverty is not improved with a dose of Islamic law, and such appeasement will only embolden Jihad violence.
More:
He warned it would be difficult to restart peace talks if the current process failed and the MILF leadership lost its influence among its members to more radical elements….
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Isn’t this *always* the threat? That if Infidels don’t negotiate with bloody Jihadist thugs like MILF, or the Taliban, or the “Islamic Courts” in Somalia, that some even more “radical” Jihad thugs will come along…
As posters like PJ have noted, it is unlikely that MILF will be able to take over the heavily Catholic Philippines, but they can certainly make life hell for any Infidels caught inside their “autonomous” area or those along their borders.
This is not, clearly, the beleaguered Aquino’s aim, but he is just ensuring that the Philippines will have a sanctioned ipso facto Jihad state on her southern border, and this will make *no one* safer.
Wellington says
Agreed, gravenimage. Seems way too many heads of state nowadays are absolutely determined to learn nothing about Munich 1938. A la Yogi Berra, it’s deja vu all over again.
Shane says
He’s a bigger wimp than Obama. Yes, count the body bags of Muslims who die as martyrs for Islam. Fight these savages until they surrender or they are all dead.
Scott says
They will count body bags – anyway. Never give muslims a thing. The muslim threat must be dealt with comprehensively.
Darren says
This autonomous muslim state will then arm itself further, and sit back and grow stronger and stronger, and when they feel the time is right, they will start the war again, in order to gain more territory and kill or convert more infidels, since waging war on the infidel world is ordered by allah and his sociopathic mass murdering prophet. I am sure some of our wonderful allies in the muslim world will even supply them with weapons and fighters as well, since what pious muslim doesn’t support gaining more territory for the Ummah. It’s the golden age of jihad, the weakness in the infidel governments has never been more apparent, this world wide conflagration is going to get much worse, since the enemy smells blood and sees weakness everywhere they look. I’m honestly stunned.
Martin Vink says
It would be a betrayal of the Philippine people to give Muslims self-rule. It is not a matter of how many military body bags but a matter of how many civilian body bags do we want in the long term. Giving into terrorism now will make the body count much higher later. The government needs to have the courage to make the tough decisions now. The people of Mindanao deserve better.
Scott says
The brave Filipinos who fought the Japanese in WW2 would impeach this traitor faster than you can imagine. This is how the Islamic plan is to proceed – see link below…..
See this link and be very afraid:
“As Muslim Population Grows, what can happen to a society?”
http://www.examiner.com/article/as-muslim-population-grows-what-can-happen-to-a-society
Darren says
When the muslim population grows, similar patterns emerge, this has been true throughout history. Look at what happened to Lebanon for instance, this will happen anywhere their numbers become large enough. The truly scary thing is this warlike death cult has so many followers, and it continues to grow.
commonsense says
Aquino, along with too many non-Muslim heads of state, is in all probability unaware of the significance of the Treaty of Hudaibiyya as the basis of all Muslim treaties with infidels. This was a peace treaty that Muhammad signed with the Quraysh, his chief Arab adversaries, but then violated when he knew that he had aquired military superiority. The Quraysh were defeated, and Muhammad was now the most powerful warlord in Arabia. This treaty is paradigmatic for all Muslims, who strive to emulate the behavior of their prophet. Treaties with infidels are never meant to be permanent, and are to be broken when the Muslim signatories feel they have had sufficient time to rearm and resume their local jihad campaign. Infidel nations, on the other hand, subscribe to the idea of Pacta sunt Servanda, where the terms of any peace agreement are considered inviolable and permanent, not to be broken by any of the signatories. Muslims are well aware of the significance of Muhammad’s treaty with the Quraysh, and applauded Arafat when he addressed a Muslim crowd in Arabic, reassuring them that any agreement he might make with Israel would never be taken seriously, citing Hudaibiyya as his historical model. The point I am trying to make here is that any promise by the MILF to disarm is an empty one, and will certainly not be kept; too many Western leaders, including Israelis, have naively signed agreements with Muslim groups and then reacted with surprise when the agreements were violated, having no understanding of how paradigmatic the Treaty of Hudaibiyya has been to Muslims, remaining so to this day.
(Please look for Hugh Fitzgerald’s articles, in which he discusses Hudaibiyya, in the Jihad Watch archives. I assume they can still be found there.)
David says
Muhammad always kept His Word. Baha’u’llah stands by Him.
These are lies and fabrications about Muhammad which are completely untrue.
My source Baha’u’llah is a Prophet of God Who is All Knowing. His Knowledge of Muhammad and the Quran is authoritative. He confirms both Muhammad and the Quran were sent by God and thus free from any error or wrong.
O ye leaders of religion! Who is the man amongst you that can rival Me in vision or insight? Where is he to be found that dareth to claim to be My equal in utterance or wisdom? No, by My Lord, the All-Merciful! All on the earth shall pass away; and this is the face of your Lord, the Almighty, the Well-Beloved.
Baha’u’llah (Most Holy Book 101)
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dumbledoresarmy says
Nonsense and lies. Mohammed broke treaties and for centuries both Shiites and Sunnis have thought he was just so dreadfully clever to have been able to perform such brilliant double-crosses of the Infidels, so as to get the drop on them. And Muslims address their infernal allah as ‘the best of deceivers’.
You’re a fool. You really think any of the regulars here will believe your nonsense for one second?
You’re a Bahaii, and the Muslims persecute you unmercifully, and there you are…lying till you’re black in the face, to defend an ideology and a false ‘prophet’ whose adherents would cheerfully kill you as soon as look at you.
Dump Islam. Stop hanging onto the dregs of that dead and rotten arab slave-trader, caravan robber, warlord and false prophet. There’s no way to polish a t*rd. You can’t turn poison into wine.
Read the *real* gospels, in the Christian New Testament.
May Yeshua the Messiah, the Son of the living God (who is YHWH, not ‘allah’), liberate you from spiritual bondage and blindness.
ATO1965 says
What? Another Holy Book somehow tied to Islam.
Champ says
I love your moniker! ..what’s needed is more common sense 🙂
Matthieu Baudin says
The Philippines have yet to produce a strong and clear sighted leader. A real leader, like the late Mr Lee of Singapore, would intelligently assess a festering insurgency and deal with it. The people of the Philippines deserve a lot more than their political leadership doles out. Appeasement of Mindanao fanaticism, apart from selling out the Philippine nation, would further destabilise Eastern Peninsula Malaysia, Sabah and Indonesian Kalimantan.
DavidE says
I have a tremendous amount of respect for our great departed leader. I say this about Kwan Yew Lee because its impossible to see President Obama as our leader. I think Kwan Yew Lee was open to all possibilities and not politically correct dimwitted thinking and that is why he was such a great man. Maybe there is a solution. But the solution cannot be to simply give into the Muslims. And Kwan Yew Lee knew that!!
Julius O'Malley says
Apart from the general principle, the problem is geographical as three of the five Muslim provinces in the “Autonomous Region” are adjoining clusters of small islands at the south-western extreme of the country: this circumstance will invite a complete loss of sovereignty when some jihadist outfit like Jemiah Islamiya turns these island groups into a base for operations beyond any scope for control by the Philippine government.
The other two provinces on the west cost of the large island of Mindanao will turn the entire island into a war-torn hellhole: look forward to ethnic cleansing of its non-Muslim majority. The wisest move now, the least worst of all options, would be:
1) For the government to assist in the relocation of that non-Muslim majority of Mindanao before they become (further) embroiled in a (more) horrible, costly in blood and treasure, war. The Philippine government can just wash its hands of the troublesome Muslims – as the five provinces rank amongst the very poorest and get 95% of their operating revenues from the central government it would be no great loss;
2) For the government to simultaneously expel all the country’s Muslims to Mindanao, ideally into the two current Muslim majority provinces, less ideally into contiguous areas of the non-Muslim majority provinces of the balance of Mindanao.
William says
I have another alternative to deal with this problem: KILL ALL THE MUSLIM SCUM from these islands.
Michael Fry says
The issue the morros have been problematic for some 1200 years of late they have been largely under control since the spanish american war days, the problem was as always they figured they had them under control then they withdraw on humanitarian reasons, there is nothing remotely humanitarian about Muslims. These are a primitive barbaric people with a culture that is only noteworthy within the annals of some museum they do not deserve to exist in current day society. This acceptance will only provide Indonesia an opportunity for expansion into the Philippines and therefore if this article is true a huge mistake for the south east asian region, it also shows that they do not remember their heritage and the problems these morons cause throughout the ages..
Linda Rivera says
The disgusting leader believes that Islam’s 1,400 year war against all Infidels will end with a phony peace agreement. He’s unfit to rule a kindergarten.
Ramon says
God, I hate Islam….!
Will somebody please remind President Aquino to read the account of
The Treat of Hudaibiyyam to let him know Muslims ca never be trusted…!