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Raymond Ibrahim on NewsMax: Christians on way to extinction in Mideast

Mar 26, 2015 8:23 pm By Raymond Ibrahim

Earlier today I appeared on NewsMax TV’s “America’s Forum with JD Hayworth” via Skype. The topic of discussion was the very real threat of Christian extinction in the Middle East. The video follows:

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  1. Kieran says

    Mar 26, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    Pilgrims left England to escape religious persecution. Got a better life. Even if you live in a church, it doesn’t make you more holy. Leave, you will be happier. The middle east has become a non-christian area. Why give the haters the hard work and talents when they will hate you regardless.

    • Mo says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 11:14 am

      @ Kieran

      “Pilgrims left England to escape religious persecution. Got a better life. Even if you live in a church, it doesn’t make you more holy.”

      Can you show me where Christians are claiming any such thing?

      ” Leave, you will be happier. The middle east has become a non-christian area. Why give the haters the hard work and talents when they will hate you regardless.”

      We’re talking in many instances about people who simply don’t have the money or ability to go elsewhere.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Mar 26, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Debate between Pastor joseph and Omar Bakri

  3. gary says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 12:16 am

    Results of Islamic Rule

    We in the West need to remove our rose-colored glasses and recognize that when an Islamic government takes power, we invariably see three painful consequences. First, people under Islamic rule lose their personal freedoms. Once Muslims gain political control, they eliminate personal freedoms, especially freedom of speech and freedom of association. They also eliminate all external signs of non-Muslim culture.”

    Excerpt From: Youssef. “Jesus, Jihad and Peace.”

    • Ephesian says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 4:05 am

      Agree totally.I had a a conversation with my brother only yesterday on this very thing,how we are losing all our freedoms by appeasing muslims and it is erasing our beliefs.He couldn’t see it,but,he goes to an evengelical church that believe you should respect islam and muslims and no wonder people get attacked and killed if we foolishly go around insulting their prophet! Well,I just hope the muslims afford my brother his right to his religion….somehow,I think not.Can he see what I’m saying? No,he can’t.You can’t “love” everyone into behaving like civilised human beings,you can’t sing a hymn to them and it miraculously changes them into peace and light!

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 27, 2015 at 6:52 pm

        Sorry about your brother, Ephesian. Many of us have loved ones who sickeningly make excuses for the bloodiness of Jihad barbarism.

  4. Pesach Kirschner says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 12:23 am

    I have decided there are two types of Jews, those awake and aware of what is going on in the world (Netanyahu) and those who are dream-walking through liberal La La Land where the real bogeyman is a white Christian from the South. Unfortunately for those asleep, their children are now in Universities waking up to actual anti-Semitism but their classmates aren’t there to defend or support them because of decades of insults and condescending remarks hurled at THEIR parents by Jews like Weinstein and Rob Reiner (Meathead) here in the United States.

    Because of organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center which harassed non Jews under the tutelage of Morris Dees, there is little sympathy remaining for their plight here in America. The anti-conservatism running through the U.S. Jewish community has left them with absolutely no one to stand with them now that their liberal politicians have discovered the deep pockets of Muslims!

    Most conservatives still stand with Israel. It is a pity that the secular Jews like Weinstein do not!

    • AnneM says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 12:58 pm

      …..Yet a lot of Evangelical Christians have gone out of their way to support the Jewish people and Israel.

  5. philipine234 says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 9:10 am

    What about the Hindus were the first faith – Sanatana Dharma, born on this planet millennia ago long b4 the Abrahamic faiths ever existed. Point is, it’s hate that’s being preached in the name of religions. Its hate that’s the trouble. Get rid of this hate and you will have peace.

    • Mo says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 11:23 am

      @ philipine234

      “What about the Hindus were the first faith – Sanatana Dharma, born on this planet millennia ago long b4 the Abrahamic faiths ever existed. ”

      What does this have to do with Muslims slaughtering Christians? Or Islam in general?

      “Point is, it’s hate that’s being preached in the name of religions. ”

      What “religions” are those?

      “Its hate that’s the trouble. Get rid of this hate and you will have peace.”

      It’s Islam that is the problem, since that is the religion preaching hatred and since that is the religion whose followers are committing all these atrocities around the world, on a regular basis, in obedience of its texts and in imitation of their “prophet”, who did likewise.

    • AnneM says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 12:59 pm

      Sadly, until the end of time, that hate will not stop.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 6:58 pm

      The only “religion” practicing this genocide is Islam. The idea that this is about “Abrahamic faiths” is ridiculous. Jews and Christians are not doing this.

  6. philipine234 says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 9:14 am

    Another thing that has resulted in such crimes in the name of “my religion is better than yours” philosophy are the immoral, unethical, unsocial, unspiritual, inhuman idea of conversions. What and why conversions? Well, OK, then let’s first decide about the “one” religion that needs to be practiced…??? Which one is to be kept so that we can first get rid of the rest to eliminate the future possibility of fracas. Who is going to decide?

    • Mo says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 11:30 am

      @ philipine234

      “Another thing that has resulted in such crimes in the name of “my religion is better than yours” ”

      Everyone thinks their religion (or any other worldview, whether religious or secular) is better than others, otherwise why would they be following it?

      You think your ideology is superior, as evidenced by your entire comment here, especially this:

      “philosophy are the immoral, unethical, unsocial, unspiritual, inhuman idea of conversions.”

      Who do you think you are, telling people they can’t follow the ideology of their choosing?

      “What and why conversions? Well, OK, then let’s first decide about the “one” religion that needs to be practiced…??? Which one is to be kept so that we can first get rid of the rest to eliminate the future possibility of fracas. Who is going to decide?”

      Apparently, YOU are the one deciding, since the ideology you are expressing here apparently holds that people shouldn’t have the right to convert to whatever ideology (religious or secular) they choose!

      Who are YOU to tell people such a thing? Who are YOU to tell people they can’t choose whatever religious or non-religious beliefs they want?

      Here’s an idea. How about addressing ISLAM, the point of this story and this entire site?

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 7:03 pm

      More witless false moral equivalence. Most people believe that their faith or philosophy is superior—but only Muslims are butchering other people who do not agree with them.

  7. philipine234 says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 9:28 am

    Abrahamics frequently allude against the Dharmic faiths for their plurality and iconophillia. Well, any and every visible symbol that we use for worship is a symbol that represents icon. Hence let us first go and blast all the existing icons of religions like Mosques, Temples, Churches, Synagogues, Gurudwaras, Agyaris, etc and get rid of all these icons. Why should we keep these silly symbols?

    Or else try to understand the very core value of iconology and plurality. If one doesn’t understand it, “Who is at fault”? Hate is the prime mover in such acts. Hate is the first thing that Hindus recommend to shed it. But Abrahamics not only preach hate, jealousy, intolerance, violence etc but practice them blatantly. Though they allude to pretend, love but only as lip service. They preach one thing but practice totally another thing. Such thing or practice is labelled as sin and abhorred at. That’s why, “Only Hinduism preaches the true universal brotherhood via their ade old slogan of “Vasudev Kutumbakam”.

    • Mo says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 11:37 am

      @ philipine234

      “Abrahamics frequently allude against the Dharmic faiths for their plurality and iconophillia.”

      Take your condescending term “Abrahamics” elsewhere, as though Islam, Judaism and Christianity all teach more or less the same things. They do not. Do not lump in Islam with the Abrahamic faiths. Islam has entirely different teachings and an entirely different God than the Judeo-Christian tradition.

      ” Well, any and every visible symbol that we use for worship is a symbol that represents icon. Hence let us first go and blast all the existing icons of religions like Mosques, Temples, Churches, Synagogues, Gurudwaras, Agyaris, etc and get rid of all these icons. Why should we keep these silly symbols?”

      Whatever happened to, “Another thing that has resulted in such crimes in the name of “my religion is better than yours” philosophy “, against which you were railing in your previous comment? YOU sure think your religion is better, than any other, don’t you? Can you explain to me why you are saying such hypocritical things?

      And in all these screeds, I see nothing actually addressing ISLAM. Why is that?

      “Hate is the prime mover in such acts. Hate is the first thing that Hindus recommend to shed it. ”

      YOU are the one preaching hate, as in the following lie:

      “But Abrahamics not only preach hate, jealousy, intolerance, violence etc but practice them blatantly.”

      Spewing false accusations (about religions you are clearly ignorant about) is very hateful.

      Take your nonsense elsewhere. This is not the place for it.

      Address ISLAM, the point of this site.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 27, 2015 at 7:16 pm

      Philipine234 wrote:

      That’s why, “Only Hinduism preaches the true universal brotherhood via their ade old slogan of “Vasudev Kutumbakam”.
      …………………….

      Well, that’s just hilarious. This poster is trying to tell us that the problem is that some consider their faith superior to others’, and then he proves that he himself considers his faith superior to that of others.

      He proves the point—though that was not his intention—that there is no problem with people considering their own views to be superior so long as they are not oppressing or slaughtering other people over the issue.

      I don’t care if people consider Hinduism, or Judaism, or Christianity, or even Islam to be superior to other creeds, just so long as their views are expressed peacefully and are not harmful to others.

      But that is *not* the case with Islam, whose followers have butchered Jews, and Christians, and Buddhists, and animists, and atheists, and—yes—many millions of Hindus. To pretend that this is not so is suicidal stupidity.

      • Mo says

        Mar 27, 2015 at 7:49 pm

        @ gravenimage

        “Well, that’s just hilarious. This poster is trying to tell us that the problem is that some consider their faith superior to others’, and then he proves that he himself considers his faith superior to that of others.”

        Isn’t the hypocrisy and/or cognitive dissonance something to behold

        Notice also how he/she has not responded?

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 30, 2015 at 1:48 pm

          “Cognitive dissonance” is what this is, all right, Mo. Luckily this isn’t quite as violent in its implications with someone like Philipine123 as it is with pious Muslims, which is pretty much its *only* saving grace.

  8. Pat says

    Mar 27, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    While Christianity is losing ground in those countries, islam is gaining ground in western countries. while christian are being beheaded, driven out of there traditional lands, muslims are getting more visas for western countries. while christians in these countries are subjected to silence and being nothing at all, muslim organization such as cair have more speech in USA. While muslim are prone to killing for a catoon and then be backed by muslim scholars and great countries like Qatar, and SAudi arabia, no one cares for those christians in muslim countries. and when people like Robert Spencer, Walid Shoebat and Raymond Ibrahim, raise awareness about the intolerance, lack of love, jihadist and murderous islam western countries such as England don’t care and even want to try those they call islamophobe. but let me tell you one thing I AM AN ISLAMOPHOBE, the top of the ISLAMOPHOBE. let them say and do whatever they want about me. I don’t CAIR.

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