Given that Brzezinski called for this years ago, and given that Brzezinski and Obama have been close, even if Zbig hasn’t had an official position, there is nothing implausible about this.
“Report: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down IAF Iran Strike,” by Mark Langfan, Arutz Sheva, March 1, 2015 (thanks to Marc):
The Bethlehem-based news agency Ma’an has cited a Kuwaiti newspaper report Saturday, that US President Barack Obama thwarted an Israeli military attack against Iran’s nuclear facilities in 2014 by threatening to shoot down Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran.
Following Obama’s threat, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was reportedly forced to abort the planned Iran attack.
According to Al-Jarida, the Netanyahu government took the decision to strike Iran some time in 2014 soon after Israel had discovered the United States and Iran had been involved in secret talks over Iran’s nuclear program and were about to sign an agreement in that regard behind Israel’s back.
The report claimed that an unnamed Israeli minister who has good ties with the US administration revealed the attack plan to Secretary of State John Kerry, and that Obama then threatened to shoot down the Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran.
Al-Jarida quoted “well-placed” sources as saying that Netanyahu, along with Minister of Defense Moshe Yaalon, and then-Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman, had decided to carry out airstrikes against Iran’s nuclear program after consultations with top security commanders.
According to the report, “Netanyahu and his commanders agreed after four nights of deliberations to task the Israeli army’s chief of staff, Benny Gantz, to prepare a qualitative operation against Iran’s nuclear program. In addition, Netanyahu and his ministers decided to do whatever they could do to thwart a possible agreement between Iran and the White House because such an agreement is, allegedly, a threat to Israel’s security.”
The sources added that Gantz and his commanders prepared the requested plan and that Israeli fighter jets trained for several weeks in order to make sure the plans would work successfully. Israeli fighter jets reportedly even carried out experimental flights in Iran’s airspace after they managed to break through radars.
Brzezinski’s idea
Former US diplomat Zbigniew Brzezinski, who enthusiastically campaigned for Obama in 2008, called on him to shoot down Israeli planes if they attack Iran. “They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?” said the former national security advisor to former President Jimmy Carter in an interview with the Daily Beast.
“We have to be serious about denying them that right,” he said. “If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a ‘Liberty’ in reverse.’”
Israel mistakenly attacked the American Liberty ship during the Six-Day War in 1967.
Brzezinski was a top candidate to become an official advisor to President Obama, but he was downgraded after Republican and pro-Israel Democratic charges during the campaign that Brzezinski’s anti-Israel attitude would damage Obama at the polls.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
On the one hand we have news entertainers huffing and puffing over Rudy’s questioning Prez Barack’s love for the country, whether he recognizes our exceptionalism. On the other we have the Prez breaking agreements and screwing allies, and hooking up with the Persians, the Taliban and the Mo-Bro-Hood as negotiating partners.
Israel and the United States have separate and independent interests. A nuclear Persia is definitely not in the interests of the USA, with or without Israel. It seems that the Prez paid attention when attending madrasas in Jakarta.
Bamaguje says
Any further proof needed that Obama is a traitor?
He threatened to attack an ally (Israel) in order to protect Iran’s tyrannical “death to America” Mullahs.
Remember Obama also supported Hamas in the last Israel-Gaza war, and delayed ammunitions delivery to Israel in an attempt to facilitate Hamas victory.
pumbar says
I wonder if Obama chants “death to America” every night before Michelle tucks him in?
Mitch says
“there is nothing implausible about this”
No, there isn’t. Obama assisting Israel in its defense against Iran — THAT is implausible. We have reached a sad point in history: America is the bad guy.
eib says
Traitor. Iran stormed our embassy, invaded American territory. I am waiting for the other shoe to drop. It is only a matter of time- we will go to war against Iran and we will turn the boastful, evil Muslim into wreckage.
FactsRule says
I notice that israelnationalnews.com has been offline.
silvergreycat says
It’s online now… http://www.israelnationalnews.com/
FactsRule says
Now it isn’t. The story is available at a number of locations. Drudge should link to another site.
mustafa says
No fan of Obama, I admit I could see Obama possibly doing this but I don’t think this story is backed-up with enough primary sources to give it credibility,
Richie says
I dont think our military would obey such an action clearly designed to favor Jihad and totally be against American interests. Plus Israel is an ally!! All that would result is Obama being impeached- if not arrested outright and removed from office sooner than later. Slowly but surely the mask is coming off.
Im wondering what kind of intelligence Obama has been funneling to Iran.
I hope Netanyahu sees Obama is NOT his friend-
Veronica Jones says
Im just wondering why Obama is still prsident. He would be long gone if he was an Australian leader…
Richie says
Who would have thought it possible, we now have a president even weaker and more of an anti semite than Jimmy Carter
More Ham Ed says
“Tehran says its nuclear program is peeeeeeeeeeaceful and exists only to produce energy for civilian use.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Robert-Menendez-Iran-nuclear-weapons/2015/01/21/id/619955/
“Through scaremongering, falsification, propaganda and creating a false atmosphere even inside other countries, (Israel) is attempting to prevent peace,” -AP
“inside other countries”
You’ll always hear a 5-year-old mentality coming from Iran, with name-calling, paranoia, monster-fantasies, etc. Don’t forget the IDF has a time machine and went back in time and put the violent verses into the quran too doncha’ know.
Bamaguje says
Iran is rich in oil & gas… they don’t need nuclear energy, which is much more expensive means of generating power that depends on imported uranium.
FactsRule says
And, there are a number of countries with nuclear energy absent centrifuges, which I believe are only necessary for weaponry. Which goes along with the ICBMs they don’t need for energy. But, don’t bother Obeyme while he destroys America. He’s half Black and has a D in front of his name.
Transmaster says
It keeps getting worse and worse. Obama with his hate for Israel, and his siding with all things Islamic is going to precipitate the first atomic war. Where will is start? between Israel, and Iran, or just a likely between India and Pakistan. Who ever starts this war will bring others into it. With a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel imitate the Saudi Royal family will come into the open in their support for Israel against Iran. Because of the Imam in Chief of the US things will at last come to a head, the final crusade if you will. and 100’s of millions will die. The religion of Islam will never recover. Their places of worship will be fields of glass. All this while the Imam plays golf, the modern day Nero.
John says
America will stand with Israel. Our congress is pro Israel and the AIPAC lobby will outlast Obama. America will attack Iran and send ground troops to prevent Muslims from touching one inch of jewish land. Can muslims beat drones , tanks and F16 and marines? US Army is stronger USA the best!
Wellington says
If true, then indicative of even a lower low for Obama and God knows he’s already gone low enough.
Bezelel says
Isn’t it interesting that the most transparent admin. would keep that info from the public? It makes me wonder at the depth of deception we’re dealing with. obola is definitely one sick SOB but he has co-signers from hell. Congress better listen and listen good when Bibi speaks. It’ll be the only truth they will hear.
William Lucas HarveyJr. says
Here we go again.
Our very apparent, Muslim Sympathizing, Islam Sympathizing, “Imperiial” President, and his Administration, strikes again.
With Obama’s very apparent (based on his, and his Administration’s, well Documented Words, Actions, and Deeds), attitude of “Protect Islam and Muslims at ALL cost”, while being himself very apparently, “Anti-America, Anti-Constitution, and Anti-Christian”.
Threatening to “Shoot Down” any Defensive Strike on one of America’s, and America’s Allies Israel, Islamiic Enemies, who IS in turn threatining us.
The Obama Administration is very obviously working feverously on turning America into an Islamic Caliphate, with ALL Americans subject to Sharia Law, the Qur’an, Mohammed, and the “Black Flag of Islam” Flying over the White House.
It seems as though Obama and his Administration have now also become America’s, and the Free World’s, “Enemy”.
godwin says
Obviously Obama does not have the white man’s nor the non Muslims’ interests at heart for his black people were/are being badly treated in the US. Furthermore his background is Islamic. Does he really have the heart to take care of the American aka the white man’s interests ?
somehistory says
Remember Ezekiel chapters 37-39. Written many centuries ago, but truly applicable to what is happening now.
ApolloSpeaks says
ALL NETANYAHU HAS TO SAY
to put the fear of God into Obama is “Shooting down our jets, Mr. President, would leave us no choice but to exercise the Samson Option and nuke Iran, as a last resort.
http://www.apollospeaks.com
Papa Whiskey says
Two points:
The real pro-Iran power behind the throne is not Zbigniew Brzezinski but the Shiraz-born, Farsi-speaking Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s substitute moms.
The notion that “Israel mistakenly attacked the American Liberty ship during the Six-Day War in 1967″ is a fantastic lie. The IDF knew whose ship that was and what it was doing, and they were willing to kill every American aboard to stop it.
FactsRule says
That’s the problem with drinking Kool-Aid – you only see what you’re told and lose your ability to think independently. Yes, Jarrett is a huge issue, possibly a traitor. And, believe it or not, when it comes to Iran, Brzezinski is a traitor. But, since he’s so anti-Israel, as are you, you, of course, want to deflect from his perfidy. It’s typical of you Nazis.
Speaking of which, Nazis are the only sub-vermin who didn’t get all of the memos regarding the fault of the USA regarding the USS Liberty.
Go peddle your Nazism where you sub-vermin like to listen to each other make worm sounds, or whatever it is you do in the filth in which you wallow everyday.
Papa Whiskey says
Meh — Nazi, schmazi. Be it noted that the sentence I cited appeared in a report from the Israeli media network Arutz Sheva, whose viewpoint is that of Jewish religious militants and which originated as a pirate radio station broadcasting from a vessel offshore. And between the Liberty attack and the case of Jonathan Pollard, the notorious American traitor who spied so effectively for Israel and some of whose take ended up in the hands of the Soviet KGB, the Israelis have made it clear that when its interests diverge from America’s they will piss in our porridge.
FactsRule says
We aren’t disagreeing about the evil Valerie Jarrett.
I will always disagree with a Jew hater and Israel hater such as you.
Again, The Liberty was studied repeatedly and every time found NOT to be Israel’s fault. Your Nazi Big Lie has never washed among human beings, only among sub-vermin filth, which you have no problem being.
Pollard was never charged with treason, which makes your malicious slander just that.
Everyone is welcome to study his case, the worst case of anti-Semitism in our country’s history, at jonathanpollard.org
When Pollard went to superiors about the possible destruction of Israel he saw possible by the US going against its treaty with Israel to share existential intel., he was told that Jews are sensitive about gas, which probably makes you laugh.
He’s always apologized for not attempting to share this with congress and has always expressed remorse for sharing what the US was supposed to share with Israel. He didn’t pass one piece of intel. harmful to the US. He didn’t pass intel. to an enemy at war with us. I could go on and on, but your name-dropping Pollard is based on your ignorance and evil; nothing more.
The US illegally broke its plea bargain agreement not to seek a long prison term in exchange for his full cooperation & waving a trial, which he did in order to spare the US from the embarrassment of having tried to harm Israel. The longest term in our history that anyone has ever spent in prison for a crime comparable to Pollard’s is 8 years. He’s been in prison for around 30 years. It’s a miscarriage and travesty of justice, period.
Smart Guy says
Two RAF planes have been shot down by Iraq carrying weapons for the ISIL terrorists in Al-Anbar. Go to Forbidden Knowledge TV US and Israeli-made weapons have been discovered from the areas purged of ISIL terrorists. ISIL is murdering Christians wholesale. Christianity is under attack in America. There are 21 terrorist training camps by Islam in America, (Christian Action Network) The head of our CIA is a Moslem.
Obama is a traitor to America. So who is going to arrest him? The only solution is a military coup by our US military. The other solution is a mutiny by our military. The only way you can arrest a President or a king for treason is some sort of Civil War. Both a mutiny or a Civil War will lead to a blood bath. Half of the American population could easily be killed in such a civil war. It is estimated that only 60 million Americans would survive.
Israeli weapons have been found. Such a discovery means the end of Israel. Nero had a Jewish wife
At first the Christians were blamed for the burning of Rome, But eventually they discovered it was the Jews so Nero ordered the destruction of Jerusalem and he murdered his Jewish wife.
So the Jewish wife of America AIPAC runs America? Think again! When Christians discover that Israel has been supplying ISIL with ammo and arms they will turn on the Jews. King Herod was a friend of Rome and the crowd shouted “We have no king but Caesar”
Israel has committed national suicide. The discovery of Israeli weapons is very, very seriou
FactsRule says
Silly Guy, isn’t that you’re real name? Of course it is. Everybody knows that the cow that jumped over the moon burned Rome back in the year – 2 of the monkey in the middle calendar used by the oompa loompas. Now you get it? At least what I wrote makes sense compared to your insanity.
Baucent says
This is fairy story stuff. No fan of Obama but he hasn’t the balls to take on the Israelis. The political fall out for him would make such an action political suicide. Secondly the Israelis don’t trust Kerry or Obama, so if they were planning an preemptive attack on Iran they would not brief the US until after the attack had commenced (they have some history of keeping the US in the dark, for good reason.)
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes, Ma’an is Hamas-controlled and they’re quoting another Arab Muslim entity, a Kuwaiti newspaper.
Disinformation?
Here at jihadwatch the first rule should be *not* to get too het up – and, indeed, to exercise extreme caution – concerning any “information” (especially when it claims to be information about what one Infidel party is doing to another) that is sourced only from Muslim sources and is not backed up by at least one moderately reliable non-Muslim witness. (Unless, of course, it’s Quran-quoting imams, etc, uttering threats to rob, pillage, enslave, behead, etc; *those* ring true).
Remember that Muslims will do *everything* they possibly can to spread confusion in the camp of the non-Muslims. And they know by now that we eavesdrop on their Press. They practise to deceive *each other* and threaten *each other* and they are also busy trying to play off infidel vs infidel.
dumbledoresarmy says
Time for all observant Jewish and practising Christian jihadwatchers to start saying Tehillim, I think.
Psalm 61. 64. 68. 83. 91. 94. 121. 124. 125. 140. 144. 146.
joeb says
The US Ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, has also said in the past that the US should invade Israel to impose the two state solution.
I’m sure Barry would love to.
Nic says
Hi there folks,
Firstly, I can reassure “Smart Guy” that NO planes from the RAF have been shot down in Iraq (or anywhere else) for over 10 years.
Secondly: in regards the USA shooting down any Israeli raid against Iran: I don’t think they CAN. The US has no fighter bases within Iraq any more, and uses planes based in other middle-eastern countries (notably Oman and the United Arab Emirates) for its attacks against ISIS.
It would probably not even detect an Israeli strike force over Northern Iraq, let alone be able to intercept them.
Unless the Navy parks an aircraft carrier off the Israeli coast, Obama is bluffing.
Prinz Eugen says
From mullah Barry’s many islamic supremacist comments and his associations/aid for iran, moslem brotherhood, Taliban, Hamas, etc. it should have been clear for years now that he is in league with the caliphate crusaders! He has weakened and subverted everything here in the US and is following pedopihile Mo’s wet dream of eradicating the Jews!
If this Kuwaiti story is true, Bibi would know. If it is true, it should be a major element in his address to congress tomorrow.
Alas, the RINOs in congress are the do-nothing, silent servants of Barry and his imams. They have given him the K to do as he pleases — without fear of interruption! We have have dictator Barry with us for many years if this GOP white flag continues to fly over the nation.
Wee used to have laws and a Constitution, now treason abounds and our elected windbags are speechless.
Impeachment anyone?
TH says
Obama hs decided that Iran should be his ally in the Middle East, so the Saudis are fuming and feeling betrayed as they had an agreement since the time of Nixon and Kissinger that they would sell their petroleum in dollars, petrodollars. Now they have been forcing the price of petroleum down so as to make the American shale oil business uneconomic. Also China and Russia are doing what they can to sink the dolalr, as America is steeped in debt. This means that nobody will wan to buy U.S. Treasuries and interest rates will soar. So, with the inevitable downfall of the in part due to Obama’s inane policies it will be the end of the U.s. as world power. Obama is extrremely dangerous.
Ed says
Our Shia Barrak Hussain Obama is trying to further Iranian’s Shia world caliphate but the Jewish Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to prevent a nuclear jihad Iran, thus making the Shia iranian world caliphate much more difficult to accomplish.
Hence, the two of them don’t like each other.
What is Barrak Hussain Obama to do? Smear and prevent Benjamin Netanyahu from addressing congress and the American people, as directed by his Muslim Brotherhood operatives.
Vostro says
A real president would be providing tanker support for Israeli fighters!
Lioness says
So why would an Israeli minister leak a top secret plan to Obama? There are traitors in Israel too, just like in any other country. I hope that minister was exposed and expelled. But who knows? They are also politically correct there.
Prinz Eugen says
The threat to bomb seems most plausible, esp now that the latest story is that khalifa Barak Hussein is cutting Israel from our intelligence briefings. If the towel and fanbelt fits, you must convict the raghead!
Hate the unholy jihadists — almost as much as I detest and loathe their ENABLERS.
Edward says
Report: Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli strike on Iran
It seems the entire world, including America is against the Israeli nation…….could it be because as it has been written in the OT that the Jews are G-d’s chosen people? If yes, their lies the spiritual hate against Jews because of their status of being first in G-d’s plans for humanity. The Israeli’s were chosen because of their covenant made with G-d that makes them first. Perhaps, the people’s animosities towards the Jewish nation, is actually a rebellion against Him, our Creator. The Evil One is instigating a Spiritual Warfare that is trending….a war that we human’s are destine not to win if we continue to ignore G-d’s existence.
The Jewish nation…..their trails and tribulations have been the norm since their beginning. They, have brought this perpetual lack of stability dilemma among themselves.
Because of their stubbornness and commitment to their many error prone nature, this since their inception during Noah’s epoch, that has been the cause of these continual times of Divine Retribution today; which at present maybe the reason of their Middle East standoff with the Arab nations, their regional neighbors.
America’s POTUS administration (evil’s proxies) plans to place obstacles against Israel’s right to self defense is basically G-d’s intervention upon the Jewish nation as a wake-up call for them to consider a serious plan….a stopgap plan to consider executing a damage control inquiry.
The spiritual damage that has been done to its people, seems to come from their stubbornness to accept their “King of the Jews”…..the Messiah, Jesus Christ; Israel’s Redeemer, Who brings redemption to mankind to the entire world! That is; only to the repented ones and those who pray for His Mercy!
My Opinion:
Israel’s PM Benjamin Netanyahu religious belief is based on Secular Judaism …..though lukewarm to Judaism he still cherishes this Jewish culture. However, Netanyahu could very well consider to convert to another religion for the sake of Israel’s survival; converting to Messianism. By doing so he could encourage his fellow Israeli’s to embrace some of Christianity tenants that would bring the Jewish nation abundant blessing’s in a way to protect that nation from further antagonism, bringing in a sense of peace and overall stability to the entire world too!
Isaiah 2:4 He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.
G-d gives Rule, Abiding by His Rule; He bestows His Blessings. Along with His Good Graces especially, when we listen to His Son, Jesus!
A side note: Simplistic perhaps, but as I wrote this comment conscientiously led me to recall the OT account in the Book of Job. Where G-d has a role in prescribing to Satan as how to test Job’s alliance to his Creator. Ranking Job by markers that graded him. G-d finding Job’s weakness Job experienced G-d’s reactance. Maybe that’s what we are experiencing during our epoch.
Has anyone on this forum have an alternative plan to bring peace?
FactsRule says
Iran’s Shia and the Islamic majority Sunni desire to conquer the world isn’t because a few million Jews on the planet will never agree that Jesus was the messiah or is in any way connected to Judaism or its fulfillment or betterment.
Israel would have had & still could have peace if its leaders would recognize the suicidal futility of not repatriating the overwhelmingly genocidal so-called Palestinians back to Jordan & Egypt. And, if its leaders would win wars and not lose battles as they’ve done recently. They gave away Southern Lebanon to the UN, which allowed (as did Israel) for Hizbollah to rearm their missiles from Iran by the thousands on Israel’s northern border. Southern Lebanon should have been reduced to ash the last time Israel had to defend from their missiles.
80% of Israel’s oil and the buffer zone called the Sinai Peninsula should never have been given away to Egypt two or three times. At least Israel was smart enough to annex the Golan Heights.
Peace for Israel isn’t the only peace that’s the problem.
Thereligionofpeace.com is attacking everywhere in the world that there are Muslims, to one degree or another.
The Jewish people have tried to explain to the Chrisians for 2,000 years that the only things in their religion that are true are just things like the verses of the Sermon on the Mount, which are just plagiarism of the sayings of the Jewish sages. The stubborn aren’t just the Jews. The Jews are actually persistent, while it’s been the Chrisians who, though they possess only their own made-up truth, insist it’s the only truth. One of the most glaring problems with it is that there is no real such thing as Chrisianity, which is the problem with something not truly based on God’s communicated truth. There are hundreds of different Chrisian organizations, none of which can agree on what Chrisianity is or wants or expects, except for only one thing, a belief, for whatever reason, in this so-called Jesus, about whom Chrisianity didn’t begin to write until at least 50 years after his passing. And, again, the Chrisian “bible” has been entirely disputed for 2,000 years, but it won’t stop Chrisians from believing it’s God’s Word. Sorry, but the book of Jonah is a story that itself obviates Chrisianity. Chrisianity insists that man needs a blood sacrifice for forgiveness. Yet, God completely forgave the city of Ninveh without any sacrifices. They repented and God forgave them; end of story.
This reference to an Old Testament in regard to the Torah, given in the presence of 3.5 million people, is reflective of Chrisianity’s having to discredit God and His firstborn son, Israel, the Jewish people. I still hear Chrisians who think that God-given Judaism as it’s always been learned and practiced, misunderstood the verse that contains “an eye for an eye” literally. It was never & will never be the case. It means the value of an eye is given for that eye. In Jewish legal terms, there are five things for which one must pay the victim. They’re paid for medical care, pain, embarrassment, loss of work, & the difference between what the victim would have been able to earn with an eye compared to without it… for life. Yet, some Chrisians still teach that Chrisianity is better than Judaism because the former doesn’t believe in a literal taking of an eye. How can an honest objective person not see this invalid comparison for what it is. Yet, they do. I call that damn stubborn regarding the teachers; and, damn ridiculous of the followers to believe it, but they don’t really know any better.
jimmy says
that’s nothing but a big anti-Christian rant and you couldn’t be any further from the truth keep hating Christians because that’s really what you are doing here and you will be proven wrong in time you can bank on it.
FactsRule says
Disputing Chrisianity doesn’t make me anti-Chrisian, which I’m not. I said nothing untrue. I’ve never hated Chrisians, so I won’t keep hating them.
I don’t care for Chrisians like Edward who condescend to Jews about how Chrisianity would better, improve, or save Jews.
That you have no problem with, but my pointing it out you do.
So, you’ve said nothing.
jimmy says
you have pointed out what you believe to be true and that’s ok you are entitled to your opinion but in time everybody will know the truth https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+38&version=NIV
FactsRule says
Jimmy,
Disputing Chrisianity doesn’t make me anti-Chrisian, which I’m not. I said nothing untrue. I’ve never hated Chrisians, so I won’t keep hating them.
I don’t care for Chrisians like Edward who condescend to Jews about how Chrisianity would better, improve, or save Jews.
That you have no problem with, but my pointing it out you do.
So, you’ve said nothing.
And, by the way, I’ve been a very strong supporter and spokesperson on behalf of Chrisians on every level. I admire Pastor Hagee & CUFI.org, Shoebat.com, & stand with any & every Chrisian and Chrisian organization that isn’t trying to unfairly target ignorant Jews for conversion to Chrisianity, but is willing to work together with Jews and everyone in civilization’s fight against unspeakable worldwide genocidal Islamofascist Jihad, & in support of everyone so aligned. I’m a strong supporter, also, of PEGIDA, which Libtard Jews may find disturbing since such Jews are as unaware of reality regarding Islam as are far too many of the world population in general.