The image of Islam is paramount for Abdallah Al-Mouallimi — not general principles of justice and human rights.
“Saudi U.N. envoy: ISIS, Al Qaeda taint Islam’s image,” Al Arabiya, March 28, 2015:
Groups such as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), Al-Qaeda and Hezbbollah taint the image of Islam, Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United Nations said on Friday.
Speaking at a United Nations Human Rights Council meeting addressing the rights of minorities in the Middle East Abdallah Al-Mouallimi said that Houthi militias and Hezbollah were forcefully imposing their will.
Islam is a religion of tolerance, he said adding that the oppression of religious minorities is a blatant contradiction of Islam and its teachings….
“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29
Jay Boo says
It is the exact opposite.
Muslims who do not behave like (“ISIS, Al-Qaeda and Hezbbollah” ) taint image of Islam from the perspective of its founder Muhammad.
Hey! Muslims.
Who are you gonna believe?
mortimer says
Mohammed’s character is the greatest liability and embarrassment for Muslims.
Don McKellar says
Gee, I thought preventing half your citizens from being able to drive because of their sex, having a death penalty on the books for gays, and executing people who try and enter a city because they are not of the “correct” religion were tainting Islam’s image. Like in Saudi Arabia — EH, WOT?
mortimer says
In Saudi Arabia, the concept of blood money is the following.
If a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the latter has to pay blood money or compensation, as follows:
100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man
50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman
50,000 riyals if a Christian man
25,000 riyals if a Christian woman
6,666 riyals if a Hindu man
3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman
Nimrod says
Islamic problem-solving logic: Some Muslims are making Islam look bad, therefore it’s image is tarnished. Solution: Compensate by engaging in taqiyya in an effort to make Islam look better.
Typical reaction for cultures that are more concerned with shame than guilt: Who cares if you’re guilty as long as you manage to hide it or cover it up?
I’m sorry, but cultures that value covering up problems rather than solving them are objectively morally inferior. Fortunately we have a few people like Abdel Fatah Al Sisi who seem to recognize this and seek to correct rather than obscure.
mortimer says
Beautifully said…”Who cares if you’re guilty as long as you manage to hide it or cover it up?”
That’s it!
ATO1965 says
And Morally Inferior, perfect.
Joseph says
“Saudi U.N. envoy: ISIS, Al Qaeda taint Islam’s image,” Al Arabiya, March 28, 2015:
And here I thought “taint” was that piece of skin between the anus and vagina or scrotum.
Maybe this definition is still applicable?
Joseph says
SORRY, I JUST COULDN’T RESIST.
My bad.
Keith Jordan says
Did you make this up? It’s not in Webster’s Dictionary!
Joseph says
No I didn’t make it up, it’s American slang. Mid East U.S.A. is where I heard it.
That little piece of skin TAINT the anus and it TAINT the vagina/scrotum.
You have to substitute different words for anus, vagina and scrotum and it will sound better.
gravenimage says
Nope—it’s a thing. It’s slang, which means “t’ain’t” one thing or the other.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=taint&page=16
Really, it is a slang term that describes the perineum.
Westman says
Islam is already sufficiently tarnished by: The breating of wives, the sadistic doctrine of the eternal Hell(of burning replaceable burning flesh in fire, drinking boiling water, boiling of bellies and pouring boiling water and molten lead on heads) and the taunting of those in Hell by the sadists in Paradise.
Allah appears to be the Super-Sadistic God of the hedonist-sadistic. Even Paradise is a wonderland of materialistic and physical pleasures in which anyone with Ijtihad would soon be bored to suffering. It’s no wonder Islam hasn’t produced anything since ijtihad was lost. Only the Persian Iranians have a little free thinking left.
Anyone with ijtihad who looks at Muhammad’s life through the Hadiths sees a murdering warlord.
Saudi Arabia carries on the fine traditions of beheading citizens and punishing raped women. It’s a travesty that this shining image should be tarnished by ISIS.
ISIS sadistic actions publicize the depravity of the already existing doctrine. It seems the kettle is criticising the pot.
mortimer says
The only difference between ISIS and Soddy Barbaria is who’s in charge. In 200 years, the descendants of Caliph al Baghdadi will be the Royal House of al Baghdadi…if they survive.
The House of Saud took over Arabia using the same methods. 200 years later, they criticize their own methods!
gravenimage says
True, Westman and Mortimer. This isn’t a disagreement about values, but just about who holds the reins of power.
Baucent says
This is what’s happening in the muslim world; you have one group, the Islamists, (such as the Saudis) who are aiming for world domination by Islam being achieved by peaceful means over decades and generations.And that’s happening very nicely in Europe. And then you have a second group, the Jihadists who want it now and by violent means.
The Islamists are irritated that their quiet plans are being upset and exposed by the hotheads who won’t wait. But they ultimately want the same thing.
gravenimage says
Quite right, Baucent—this is what Robert Spencer refers to as the “fast Jihad” and the “slow Jihad”.
Steffen Larsen says
Don’t you worry lad, you’re doing an okay job yourself.
gerard says
“Groups such as the Islamic State…. taint the image of Islam,”
They also kill a lot of people. You forgot to mention that.
“Islam is a religion of tolerance,”
Why wasn’t this fellow grabbed and escorted out of the building for mouthing such a horrendous lie?
Mirren10 says
”Groups such as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), Al-Qaeda and Hezbbollah taint the image of Islam, Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United Nations said on Friday.”
The KSA does exactly the same things as IS et al. So why doesn’t what Saudi Arabia does ‘taint’ the image of islam ?
”Speaking at a United Nations Human Rights Council meeting addressing the rights of minorities in the Middle East Abdallah Al-Mouallimi said that Houthi militias and Hezbollah were forcefully imposing their will.
Islam is a religion of tolerance, he said adding that the oppression of religious minorities is a blatant contradiction of Islam and its teachings….”
How, in a sane world, could **anyone** listen to this foul little incubus without falling about in hysterical laughter and contempt ? Saudi Arabia imprisons rape victims, executes women for adultery, beheads people, mutilates thieves, condones sexual slavery, exploits foreign workers by taking away their passports and chousing them out of their miniscule wages, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg of a myriad of other human rights abuses.
This fat little toad stands up in the UN, spewing this utterly false rhetoric, and **no-one calls him on it**.
I presume this is because the KSA is supposed to be our ‘ally’.
No doubt, when it is considered to be expedient, the IS will be brought in from the cold, and made into one of our ‘allies’ also.
When that happens, the moral destruction of the West will be complete.
gravenimage says
Mirren, the idea that these scum are our “allies’ has sickened me from as far back as I was old enough to have some idea of what a violent, tyrannical sh*t hole Saudi Arabia is—long before I understood the threat of Jihad in the broader sense.
Probably the first specific atrocity I became aware of there was the beheading of the princess back in the ’70s. Everything I have learned since has, of course, just made it worse.
JamesonRocks says
Seems the truth is pretty simple… Islam taints the image of Islam.
mortimer says
No…Islam has nothing to do with Islam.
JamesonRocks says
Excellent!
gravenimage says
Saudi UN envoy: Islamic State, Al Qaeda taint Islam’s image
The image of Islam is paramount for Abdallah Al-Mouallimi — not general principles of justice and human rights.
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This is very true—and it is not just Al-Mouallimi—you hear this from Muslims all the time.
Moreover, Muslims only care about this when they are trying to fool the Kuffar. When they are in full power—as is iSIS in the Islamic State—the mask comes off.
More:
Groups such as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), Al-Qaeda and Hezbbollah taint the image of Islam, Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United Nations said on Friday.
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Of course, as so many posters have already pointed out, Saudi Arabia *itself* is a vicious, Shari’ah hell-hole where you can be charged with “witchcraft’, where women are not allowed to drive and are immured in Abayas, where any Muslim man may murder his children without penalty, and where victims are beheaded in “Chop-Chop Square”. There is little in the Islamic State that is more horrific.
More:
Speaking at a United Nations Human Rights Council meeting addressing the rights of minorities in the Middle East Abdallah Al-Mouallimi said that Houthi militias and Hezbollah were forcefully imposing their will.
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The groups he singles out are *Shi’ite*—that is the only issue this pious Sunni has with them.
Saudi Arabia itself, of course, is incredibly oppressive to religious minorities—there are no churches, synagogues, or temples in the whole country, bibles and crosses are confiscated on entry, no non-Muslim may enter Mecca, and no Jew may enter the country at all. Christians are prosecuted if they worship in groups, even in their own homes.
And Christian and Hindu foreign workers are often horribly abused, having their passports confiscated, often not paid, and frequently sexually abused.
More:
Islam is a religion of tolerance, he said adding that the oppression of religious minorities is a blatant contradiction of Islam and its teachings….
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Just laughable. Even at the UN, who could believe this sh*t?
Westman says
Other UN Ambassadors must be quite aware of this stunning hypocrisy.
Do they whisper their amusement to each other, give a mendacity rating, look for some new obfuscation they can use in a future speech, doodle on their notepads, call their stock broker, dream about the coming night’s conquest, hurl mental criticisms, imagine little Walter Mitty scenarios, or scratch their itches?
United Nations, the ultimate oxymoron.
Mirren10 says
gravenimage says:
”The groups he singles out are *Shi’ite*—that is the only issue this pious Sunni has with them.”
Thank you for pointing that out, graven. Yes, the **only** issue pious muslims have with the IS is who should be the alpha dog. Everyone should know this, and everyone should remember this.
But of course, the dismal and horrendous ‘UN’ will never even acknowledge it.
Love from ‘mireen’. XX 🙂
How are the cartoons going ? If I was in a position to vote for my favourite artist, you’d be the one !
gravenimage says
Oops—sorry about that typo, Jan.
Thanks so much for asking. So far, I’ve entered six pieces for the show—four I had done previously, and two new ones. I’m working on #7 and #8—one of which is a full painting. I’m struggling to get them finished by the deadline. And now my carpal tunnel is flaring up—ouch…
But I am really excited by the response this show has gotten so far. I’ll be really excited to see the finalists. I know Bosch Fawstin (of Pigman fame) is also contributing. I’m especially looking forward to seeing his work.
Edgar Allen says
No Muslim, NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM, should open his f….in mouth and speak about minority rights.
They should not be allowed to speak in such a forum. Islam is the ENEMY of minority rights.
duh_swami says
Taint that image…What we need is more and better taint. I have a bucket full of taint and paint it on Islam pretty thick. But I notice it doesn’t stick to well to grease, so I’m developing a spray can of image taint that will stick to most anything. If successful I might market it under the name ‘Essene of Blasphemy…Watch for it on E-bay.
Mirren10 says
”If successful I might market it under the name ‘Essene of Blasphemy…Watch for it on E-bay”
Snicker. 🙂 I do realise it was a typo, but a singularly apropos one !
Keep well, duh-swami, I love you !
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/193097/Essene
duh_swami says
That’s supposed to say, ‘Essence’ of Blasphemy’. The spell checker lied again and I didn’t notice it…I could write a book about this spell checker.
M S case says
It doesn’t much matter what he says> The book of hate is still his master
sidney penny says
“Islam is a religion of tolerance, he said adding that the oppression of religious minorities is a blatant contradiction of Islam and its teachings…”
There is no tolerance for religious minorities in Saudi Arabia.(esp guest workers)