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Turkey: Teacher tells girls they “deserve to be raped” for not wearing hijab

Mar 12, 2015 9:27 pm By Robert Spencer

Turkish girlsThis actually reflects the assumption, deeply rooted in Islam, that women are responsible for the self-control of men, and if a woman gets raped, it is because she provoked the rapist, and the fault lies entirely with her. L.Y.İ. didn’t originate this idea, and many many others hold the same views. “Teacher sparks backlash after telling students they ‘deserve rape,’” Today’s Zaman, March 11, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

A schoolteacher in the Central Anatolian province of Tokat has enraged parents after reportedly telling her teenage students that they deserve to be raped and treated cruelly because they do not wear the Islamic headscarf.

The teacher, identified as L.Y.İ., was substituting for an optional Quran class at Halil Rıfat Paşa Secondary School on Monday. According to the private Doğan news agency, the teacher was angered by students’ failure to remain silent despite her pleas and said: “You don’t cover your heads either. You deserve rape, you deserve cruelty.”

There were 17 seventh-grade students, both girls and boys, in the class, according to Doğan. L.Y.İ., a teacher of religious culture and morality, also chided students who attended a march in memory of a young woman named Özgecan Aslan who was brutally killed in February after she allegedly resisted rape. The teacher reportedly asked whether the students had recited al-Fatiha, the opening chapter of the Quran, for the soul of Aslan when they commemorated her. “You ran to the demonstration. She is under the ground now. Did you cite al-Fatiha? You may end up like Özgecan,” she reportedly told the students.

Parents went to the school principal to complain about the teacher after students told them about what happened during the class. Principal Mahmut Demirbağ then spoke to L.Y.İ. and told the parents that her remarks were misunderstood and that she had apologized.

But a parent was unsatisfied with Demirbağ’s explanation and filed a complaint against the teacher. “She insulted our children, saying they would deserve to be raped because they do not wear the headscarf. She insulted our 13-year-children this way because they are not wearing the headscarf. So I went to the prosecutor’s office and filed a complaint,” the parent, identified as Fadime G., told Doğan. “This teacher cannot teach my child at this school.”…

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  1. Wellington says

    Mar 12, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    I predict that Western feminists, a collection of cowards and hypocrites if ever there has been such a collection, will be silent once again.

    • Paul says

      Mar 12, 2015 at 9:54 pm

      Very good video on that exact point you brought up.

      Can’t recommend it enough :

      • Wellington says

        Mar 12, 2015 at 10:18 pm

        Thank you, Paul, for that link to yet another totally on-point comment by Pat Condell about the monstrosity which is the Islamic faith, this time dealing with the inherent and deep-rooted misogyny in Islam, and how Western feminists en masse continue to overlook or excuse this Islamic misogyny. I would encourage all the regular anti-jihad commenters here at JW to view it if they have not already.

        As for Western feminists, like Condell I have nothing but dripping contempt for the lot of them. If one is truly for women’s rights, as I am (and I’m an old guy), then one can have NOTHING to do with the rot which is Western feminism (e.g., Hillary Clinton via the Clinton Foundation accepting millions of dollars from Islamic nations which repress women in sundry ways all the while HC bemoans sexism in America). Thank you again, Paul.

        • Paul says

          Mar 12, 2015 at 10:56 pm

          I knew you’d appreciate the video 🙂

          Just a pity that it’s all so accurate.

      • james hazan says

        Mar 13, 2015 at 2:47 am

        can you help me please? I am 82 and the computer age has passed me by, I would like to receive Pat Condell on my emails on a regular base like a regular newsletter.If that exist? Jameshazan@btinternet.com

        • Michael Copeland says

          Mar 13, 2015 at 4:31 am

          Pat Condell has his own website: the link above takes you to it. Another site (ask Google) has transcripts of his talks. Ask Google for Pat Condell, and make him a “favourite”. thay way, although you will not receive e-mails, you can always go straight to his site to receive his wisdom.

        • ECAW says

          Mar 13, 2015 at 5:46 am

          The above site will take you to Youtube. This is his website:

          http://www.patcondell.net/

          There is a Books page with a couple of books for sale with earlier transcripts:

          http://www.patcondell.net/books/

    • Fritz Kohlhaas says

      Mar 12, 2015 at 10:43 pm

      Most so-called feminists don’t care. And then there are the “FEMINAZIS” who hate men!

      • Susan says

        Mar 15, 2015 at 1:30 am

        I’ve asked a few feminist groups why they aren’t shrieking loudly about the treatment of women in islam and the forced wearing of the burka. The response? They “respect the right of all women to wear whatever they choose” to which I answered, “Women in islam are horribly oppressed! They don’t have choices.” Their answer: “We respect their right to choose to be oppressed.”

        I am NOT joking.

    • james hazan says

      Mar 13, 2015 at 4:48 am

      Thank you James

    • ROY C says

      Mar 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm

      The silence of western feminists is a given – the movement is off the charts ideologically. Read Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s great book.to see how indoctrinated Muslim girls are on this subject. As a young rather rebellious girl she ventures out in public uncovered and is warned by her girl friends that she will be open to attack since Muslin males cannot control themselves when confronted with such a sight. The logic or fairness of this nonsense goes unquestioned. Muslim men of course take full advantage when given the opportunity since they know the woman will take all the blame for what follows. What a great religion is Islam as our Muslim-in-chief never fails to remind us. Funny how he manages to avoid this and other troubling aspects of Islam and no one ever challenges him – not even on Fox.

  2. bobm says

    Mar 12, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    as to blame the rape victim?…of course these troglodytes are hog by jowl; still blaming Eve… sadly …they cannot …..still…. believe their champion was defeated by David…. and further that the seed of Abraham has brought the promise of god to fruition in The Lamb of God…..Who by the way Will Finish what was fundamentally complete when He said ….”It is done.”…. It is indeed done Goliath, Mahdi, mohammed… and it will be brought to a close under the heel of the Son …. soon.

  3. Jay Boo says

    Mar 12, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    In all fairness to Muslims, they really have no other choice but to blame the victim of rape.
    If Muslims were to put the burden on the rapist, then they would have to deal with the sticky issue of their sex slave religion’s (child-raping founder) who shamelessly either said he had a revelation to act like an uncontrollable piggy while claiming Allah’s approval or said that the devil made him do it.

    • katherine says

      Mar 13, 2015 at 4:17 am

      In all fairness to Muslims they’ve been conned for a long time. The culprits who penned the Hadiths on head-covers claim that women’s hair are too erotic to be seen.

      There must have been a bad misinterpretation somewhere – which hair were they supposed to be referring to ?

  4. somehistory says

    Mar 12, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    The one judging without mercy will have his/her judgment without mercy (James 2:13).

    This woman, blaming the victim, seems to be in agreement with the rest of muslim society as a whole.
    What she did in saying it before the male students will only encourage them to think they are in the *right* if ever they rape. Despicable in so many, many ways.
    Would she wish to be raped if for some reason she left home without a scarf, or because it slipped and her hair was viewed by muslim males?

    Matthew 7:2 “For with the judgment you use, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” There is no escape from this rule Jesus laid down.

  5. gravenimage says

    Mar 12, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    Turkey: Teacher tells girls they “deserve to be raped” for not wearing hijab
    …………………………………

    This is mainstream Islam—women who do not wear Hijab are “uncovered meat”, and are fair game to raped by Muslim men.

    Also, when a pious Muslimah wears Hijab in the West, she is not just saying “don’t rape me”, she is, in effect, saying “rape *them*” (the uncovered Infidel and insufficiently Islamic women).

    And this is just another example of how Turkey is fast Islamizing. Secular Kemalism is losing more ground there all the time.

    • dlbrand says

      Mar 13, 2015 at 1:22 am

      Indeed, GI. In brief.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Mar 13, 2015 at 5:16 am

      An imam in Australia, Shahid Mehdi, told his listeners “A woman without a headscarf is asking to be raped”. Subsequently, and QUITE UNLIKE THE PREACHERS OF MARTYRDOM, he actually put into practice what he preached. He was arrested after chasing a scarfless woman in the park with his organ exposed. Islam is incompatible with the West.
      http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/muslim-imam-claims-women-who-dont-wear-hijabs-are-asking-to-be-raped-arrested-for-trying-to-rape-woman/

      • Lee says

        Mar 13, 2015 at 6:30 am

        @Michael Copeland, thanks for that link (though the story says he made the comment in Denmark). But the Grand Mufti of Australia said of the (Islam-inspired) worst gang-rapes in our history:

        “If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it…whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem.”

        “If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred.”

        ‘He said women were “weapons” used by “Satan” to control men.’

        http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/muslim-leader-blames-women-for-sex-attacks/story-e6frg6nf-1111112419114

        I tweet stories like these to the Western feminists #WISH campaign (Women in Solidarity with Hijabis) because these feminazis actively promote Hijab-wearing, even for little girls.

    • Spot On says

      Mar 13, 2015 at 9:16 am

      Graven, What bothers me the most is that our MSM and political Marxists are being so hypocritical with women. The other thing that bothers me is that so many people are duped by their hypocrisy.

      My best guess is that a very large number of people cannot comprehend facts. Their minds can only detect the narrative. The MSM is very clever with handling narratives as was vividly demonstrated in the Michael Brown shooting. It is not a black and white thing. It is narrative vs. facts thing.

    • Falsafa says

      Mar 13, 2015 at 4:08 pm

      oh please give me a break…some poor substitute teacher in rural anatolia makes an improper remark for which he should be rightly reprimanded and this becomes yet another sign that the country is “going down the drain” and this is “mainstream” Islam…Well for those interested in the genuine thruth those views are not maintream Islam and certainly no one but an extreme minority of muslims would espouse such views…extremists exist everywhere, they should be tolerated and be allowed to exercise their right to free speech – not in schools ofcourse – as long as others right are respected and incitement to religious or racial hate and violence takes place…and if anyone responds to my remarks with a “taqiyya” accusation (i probably misspelt the word) I will puke!

      • Falsafa says

        Mar 13, 2015 at 4:12 pm

        correction of typo above…should have written above “….incitement to religious and racial hatred and violence does NOT take place”…

  6. MKG says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 12:14 am

    When it comes to responsibility for ones life I firmly believe that ones demise is often directly related to how one lives, however the accusations of that teacher, a substitute teacher at that, are ridiculous. It is good the parents had the honor and courage to complain.

    Perhaps the teacher herself was raped at one time for not wearing a hijab and wishes the same fate on others. After all, misery loves company.

    • Spot On says

      Mar 13, 2015 at 9:21 am

      I agree. Families who abuse their children, raise children who will abuse their families. Self perpetuating behavior. Islam has institutionalized child and women abuse.

      • Western Canadian says

        Mar 14, 2015 at 1:34 am

        Actually, there is no truth to the notion that abused children will grow up to be abusive parents….. From first hand experience (on the receiving end) they will be able to empathize and sympathize with others who are abused), they will, if lucky enough to find a better way, grab hold of it, never letting go….. Less than a third of abused children grow up to be abusers….

        The most victimized people of all time, the Jews, are among the least violent (and most deadly when they FINALLY defend themselves) of peoples….. Coptic Christians, Buddhists, and Hindu’s are not noted for being terrorists on a routine basis…..

        Only islam (RTC) produces a society and people who embrace violence as not just the best way, but only way of living. Only islam (RTC) is such a layered trap, that most of it’s victims never find any other way, all of which are better than islam (RTC).

  7. dlbrand says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 1:11 am

    “Teacher tells girls they ‘deserve to be raped’ for not wearing hijab.”

    Of course–basic Islam of “Allah’s Book.”

  8. Richie says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 5:46 am

    and Muslim countries deserve to be bombed back into the stone age

  9. Kasey says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 7:29 am

    When will the World wake up to the fact that Islam is “a mans’ ideology and religion” because Islam allows each man to have 4 wives, sex on demand, wife beating, superiority over women in rights and status [esp. their own daughters], and licence to treat women as sub-human in particular circumstances, and keep them always in the background, rarely to be seen and mostly not heard. It also tells them they are all superior to Kaffirs[ that’s us].

    In scenes of Muslims at prayer, are the women ever seen?….rarely,The men are busy praying to their god Allah for all their sexist privileges, and they make sure their sons are well indoctrinated with those sexist attitudes.

  10. Hubert Wagner says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 7:33 am

    There exists a solution to the problem of blaming women for provoking men to rape them. Write a law which states clearly a woman may dress as she wishes in public. Then issue every woman with a pistol.

  11. Bree says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    I seen this article and thought, who thinks like this? Perverted minds is who, it seems to be the mind set of this faith and they don’t just think it they are showing the world they will act upon these thoughts. Can they not control of their own bodies to abstain from violating others? I am seeing this coming from the muslim women,too. Its Luke they have been taught this is normal. Almost like abused women that go along with the abuser. This mental state is bound by her abuser and apparently others like it. It seems they condone this lack of control by the book on Mohammed. I seen a public television that showed a program on mohammed and the last one showed mohammed done some more than questionable acts, even by people that believed in Allah. However this other group didn’t approve of his young marriage to a nine year old and questioned how he stole that coveted spot as a prophet, then when he married a cousin he was turned away from, because it was considered incest. They spke about many versions since, some very extreme, like this teachers view of rape. Its unbelievable their is people that still think this way, and I wonder if were just seeing a bounty full of women that are in a sick occult that it unspoken. Here in USA there has been cases of groups Luke this, one notable one was Texas and that man moved them around alot, I believe he claimed LDS and he had many wives, some young wives, they had DNA testing on some and showed many his children and incestuous born. The children can’t help how they were born, however the women knew and said nothing. I believe in their heart knew. Anyway that man went to prison. Most rapist will plead guilty to avoid public trial that exposes their depravity.
    I wonder if their is cases of this religions having Human Services investigate incest and child marriages? Teachers should be trained and school counselors trained to be more aware of this phenomena within our school system, it has devastating effects to the women and how the young men are being raised. Thanks for sharing of info. Things to really watch, it really is a sickness. Shame the raped but not the rapist, I don’t think so. No more shame for these girls. They should be allowed to heal. This teacher should never be allowed in a social teaching job again. The teacher is not allowing growth of the mind but teaching don’t think, don’t expand your mind, it sounds like it started out innocent enough to shush chatty mouths but she didn’t stop there, and even reinforced to the young men it was okay in her eyes, therefore also reinforcing the men of muslim or Islam this is okay. Not so, in America there needs to be a rise in job and uprise in colleges graduates that could assist the Department of Human and Child Services to help these areas.
    There was a program called PALS (?) that followed (volunteer) at risk children based on common health questionnaire in the OB area, it was a good program less than 1% denied service, free to them cosy less than welfare system by $25k, high risk, just help family with meal budgeting, resources, trouble shooting. Less invasive, unplanned visits not planned to be invasive but to identify problems and help them learn to resolve own problems. Nothing Luke the overworked system today.
    Again, I appreciate allowing my chatty talk, this gets me going though.

  12. Cynthia in California says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    It’s hard to read a story like this and remember that Turkey wanted (wants?) to join the EU. The EU, I believe (?), declined or delayed a decision based on unequal human rights for women vs. those for men.

    And now, since I last read about that EU decision, Turkey seems to be assisting Daesh. Barf….

  13. Oliver says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    But, can one imagine that OUTRAGE AND SCREAMING, IF–HEAVEN FORBID–AN ORTHODOX JEWISH RABBI SAID THAT WOMEN SHOULD DRESS MODESTLY.

    Not, mind you, that they ‘deserve to be raped”, only, ” that it is better to be dressed modestly”.

    Or, if a teacher in a private (let alone public) HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE, EVEN, said such a thing.

    The feminists would be up in arms – that ‘ a woman has the right to dress as she pleases”, ad infinitum. That a woman could wear a string bikini on the main street and should not be bothered, etc.

    But a Muslim says this, and as has been mentioned, the silence is deafening.

  14. Jae M says

    Mar 13, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    I would think that the men should be embarrassed that they require women to cover themselves so thoroughly. It tells the world that the men of this culture have no real power to control themselves and believe themselves to be as animals that are compelled to act on their sexual impulses. They must control the women because they lack self control and moral ethics….sad and embarrassing for them isn’t it?
    Strangely though even in Saudi and Iran, fully covered women are harassed and raped. So I guess the men need to become stronger in their own morals.

    • Western Canadian says

      Mar 14, 2015 at 11:40 am

      “I would think that the men should be embarrassed”

      And there, you have the real problem defined…. MEN, and by that I mean REAL men, not low life vermin raised to be low life vermin, would be more than just embarrassed by behaving in such a low manner….
      they would be ashamed.

      The difference between a muslim male, and a man, in the most basic terms..

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