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Turkey’s EU minister: using terms “Islamic State” & “Islamic terrorism” offends Muslims

Mar 21, 2015 11:53 pm By Robert Spencer

volkan_bozkirOf course, it is Islamic jihadists, not “Islamophobes,” who are responsible for creating the concept of “Islamic terrorism” by referring to Islamic texts and teachings to justify their acts of violence. And it is the Islamic State, not “Islamophobes,” who named it “the Islamic State.” Volkan Bozkir knows this. He just doesn’t want you to know it.

“Turkey’s EU minister warns against identifying Islam with terror,” Anadolu Agency, March 21, 2015:

Identifying Islam with terror is a mistake that should be avoided, Turkey’s EU minister told an anti-terrorism meeting in Brussels on Saturday.

The terms like Islamic terrorism and Islamic state are offending Muslims and should not be used, Volkan Bozkir said at the German Marshall Fund’s 2015 Brussels Forum session on “Countering the New Wave of Terrorism at Home and Abroad.”

“Using the terminology Islamic state or Islamic terrorism, I do not think is the correct thing to do, because then we are naming something in a wrong way and causing the rest of the Islamic world to feel bad,” said Bozkir.

Regarding the criticism on Turkey that the country allows volunteers from Europe to reach terrorist groups, Bozkir said: “We have 39 million tourists coming to Turkey; we cannot check who is a terrorist, who is tourist, who is coming there for academic life.

“We stopped 12,500 persons, not all of them from Europe but from all over the world, to enter into Turkey and we have captured 1,200 people who are already in Turkey thanks to intelligence sharing.”

Turkey is often criticized for not being able to control its more than 800-kilometer-long border with Syria, sometimes referred to as a “highway to terrorism.”

Rejecting the criticism, Bozkir said Turkey is doing its part, and added: “Turkey has never work with Daesh and never will.”…

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  1. tilda says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 12:24 am

    “Identifying Islam with terror is a mistake that should be avoided…”

    Uhm, is he saying Mohammed got it wrong when he equated Islam with terror: “I have been made victorious through terror.” (Bukhari 4:52:220)

    Does that make Turkey’s EU minister an apostate?

    (As for the fact that Turkey even has an EU Minister… Wake up Europe.)

    • Spot On says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 8:25 am

      The arrogance of Muslim supremacy is only exceeded by the arrogance of or people in Washington. Could that be why Washington doesn’t distinguish Islam from the rest of the worlds inhabitants..

    • David says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 11:56 am

      That’s not what Muhammad said. Those are not His Words. Those words are neither authenticated or authoritative nor the words of Muhammad.

      On the contrary Muhammad opposed oppression and terrorism.

      • Spot On says

        Mar 22, 2015 at 12:18 pm

        You have got to be kidding. Otherwise, why would half of the terrorists be named after “Mohammad”.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 22, 2015 at 7:07 pm

        More crap from David:

        That’s not what Muhammad said. Those are not His Words. Those words are neither authenticated or authoritative nor the words of Muhammad.

        On the contrary Muhammad opposed oppression and terrorism.
        ……………………………..

        David like to pretend that the Muslims do not follow the Hadith, but this is false. Just because Baha’i reject the Hadith does not mean that pious Muslims do.

        In fact, their rejection of the Hadith is one of the reasons why Baha’i are oppressed and murdered in Dar-al-Islam.

        But the fact is that even if one discounts the Hadith, the Qur’an *itself* is a sanguinary horror that demands that its followers engage in Jihad terror:

        Quran 8:12:

        “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

        Quran 9:14:

        “Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people”

        As for the sanguinary “Prophet” himself?

        Quran 8:67:

        “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

        I suppose David likes to pretend that kidnapping and slaughtering people is the way Muhammed “opposed terrorism”…*Ugh*.

  2. llanfair says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 12:33 am

    Turkey’s EU minister who lives in the midst of Islamic terrorists openly calls them Islamic terrorist while Hussein O sitting in probably the safest place on earth refuses to call them what they are .. Islamic terrorists.

    There’s something not right here.

  3. EmHotep says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 12:43 am

    ISIS is Turkey, whole of the country is packed by terrorists supported by AKP (ruling party) and president Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Everybody knows this even US so what can we do as secular citizens of the country??

    All the world supports current Turkish government and if you oppose them you are in jail right away.. So islam is something like that and I am afraid it will never end..

  4. G179 says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 12:58 am

    The peaceful beheadings are being taken out of context. Can you believe these islamophobes?

  5. saturnine says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 2:07 am

    “[T]he terminology Islamic state or Islamic terrorism [is] causing the rest of the Islamic world to feel bad.”

    As it should, and is all the more reason to relentlessly shout it louder. Muslims should feel nauseated when they glance at a prayer rug. They should feel weak when thinking about Mohammed. Their head should ache when they recite the Qur’an. A genuine sickness should overwhelm them, because then they might realize the depths of their self-deception and resolve to rid themselves of it.

    • Saleem Smith says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 3:52 am

      We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that the Qur’an and Islamic theology permit the crimes of rape, slavery, sex slavery and pedophilia.

      THE QURANIC SANCTION OF SLAVERY

      The institution of slavery in Islam was formalized in the following Quranic verse, in which Allah distinguishes free human beings or masters, who exercise justice and righteousness, from the dumb, useless and burdensome ones, the slaves:

      Quran 16:76 Allah sets forth (another) Parable of two men: one of them dumb, with no power of any sort; a wearisome burden is he to his master; whichever way he directs him, he brings no good: is such a man equal with one who commands Justice, and is on a Straight Way?

      Allah warns the believers against taking the slaves as equal partner in status and in sharing their wealth, lest they have to fear them as anyone else:

      Quran 30:28…do ye have partners among those whom your right hands possess (i.e., slaves, captives) to share as equals in the wealth We have bestowed on you? Do ye fear them as ye fear each other?

      Allah recognizes some human beings, namely the masters, as more blessed by Himself than the less favored slaves as part of His divine plan. He warns Muslims against sharing His gifts to them equally with their slaves. Those who would take slaves as equal, warns Allah, would deny Him:

      Quran 16:71 Allah has bestowed His gifts of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others: those more favoured are not going to throw back their gifts to those whom their right hands possess, so as to be equal in that respect. Will they then deny the favours of Allah?

      Allah does not only sanction the institution of slavery, He also gave divine blessing to masters (Muslim men only can own slaves) to have sex with the female slaves:

      Quran 70:29–30 And those who guard their private parts, Except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess—for these surely are not to be blamed

      Quran 23:5–6 And who guard their private parts, except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable

      Therefore, if there are women amongst the captives or slaves, Muslims are divinely sanctioned to have sex with them as they do with their wives. This verdict of Allah founded the institution of sex-slavery or slave-concubinage in Islam, which was widespread in the pre-colonial Muslim world and continued well into the mid-twentieth century. As far as legal marriage is concerned, there is a limitation of four wives for a man at one time [Quran 4:3], but no such limitation on the number of sex-slaves.

      Allah also gave a divine sanction to Muslims for acquiring female slaves for sexual engagement by waging wars against the infidels:

      Quran 33:50O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war…

      Muslims can engage in sex with the captured slave women even if they are married, but not with the married free Muslim women:

      Quran 4:24 Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess…

      There are other verses in the Quran that talks approvingly of slaves and capturing them in wars. Thus, according to the divine commands of the Islamic God as enshrined in the holy Quran, Muslims are allowed to keep slaves. They can amass slaves by waging wars, have sex with the female slaves, and of course, use them as they wish. For Muslims, having sex with female slaves is as legal as having sex with their married wives. Slavery appears to be one of the most desired divine privileges in Islam, since Allah took the pain of reminding Muslims about this divine right time and again in so many verses.

      Qur’an, 33:21
      There is a good example in God’s apostle for those of you who look to God and the Last Day and remember God always.

      Hadith, Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 7, Book 62, No. 88
      Narrated Ursa:
      The prophet wrote the [marriage contract] with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e.’ til his death).

      • shabeer_hassan says

        Mar 22, 2015 at 10:41 am

        TILDA
        Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 220

        Narrated Abu Huraira:

        Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (******cast in the hearts of the enemy*****), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.” Abu Huraira added: Allah’s Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).

        39: 53. Say: “O ‘Ibâdî (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allâh, verily Allâh forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

        @SALIM SMITH & sex slavery

        ISLAM THE ONLY RELIGION ON EARTH FIRST ENCOURAGING/PROMOTING MARRIEGE ,EDUCATION ,GOOD BEHAVIOUR & FREEING Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 255 ,Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 55 :: Hadith 655, Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 720, Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 723 , Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3327 , 3327, Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 285
        Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari:
        Allah’s Apostle said, “If a person teaches his slave girl good manners properly, educates her properly, and then manumits and marries her, he will get a double reward. And if a man believes in Jesus and then believes in me, he will get a double reward. And if a slave fears his Lord (i.e. Allah) and obeys his masters, he too will get a double reward.”

        CHALLENGE 1: ANY RELIGION/SYSTEM ON EARTH(WITH THEIR 1000 Y’RS HISTORY)WHO GIVE THEIR SLAVE GIRL TO FOUR THINGS THAT 1) EDUCATION 2)GOOD MANNERS 3) FREEGING 4) MARRIEGE IS THERE PLZ BRING IT IF U HAVE CONFIDENCE /COURAGGE … U LEAVE ISLAM BEC’S SLAVERY MY QUESTION WITH EVIDENCE I PROVED FOUR THINGS ISLAMIC LAW ALLOWEED FOR SLAVE GIRL,PLZ BRING THE EVIDENCE THAT 1000 Y’RS AGO ANY IDEOLOGY ON AGREED THESES FOUR CONDITION………….

        IF U PROVE IT I WILL LEAVE MY RELIGION

        OR

        U COME BACK TO ISLAM

        AQGREED THE DEAL?

      • shabeer_hassan says

        Mar 22, 2015 at 10:47 am

        CHALLENGE 2:
        ISLAM Released war captive by the order of their family:
        Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 716
        Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 47 :: Hadith 778
        Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 53 :: Hadith 360
        Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 59 :: Hadith 608
        Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 288

        FREEING SLAVE AS MUCH AS U CAN POSSIBLE
        Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 693,94,95,96,97,98,99, 701, 703 ,704,708,709,715,719, 729, 735, 736, 737, 738, 739
        Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 79 :: Hadith 700,701,702,706
        Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 70 :: Hadith 552
        Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 63 :: Hadith 207
        Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 59 :: Hadith 676
        Slave rape prohibited:
        Malik :: Book 36 : Hadith 36.16.14
        Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.2.13
        Slave prostitution prohibited:
        24:33. and let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you know that they are good and trustworthy. And give them something yourselves out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. And force not your maids to prostitution, if they desire chastity, in order that you may make a gain in the (perishable) goods of this worldly life. But if anyone compels them (to prostitution), then after such compulsion, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to those women, i.e. He will forgive them because they have been forced to do this evil action unwillingly).
        Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 63 :: Hadith 260
        Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 822,823
        Sex with slave act of ignorance:
        Muslim :: Book 40 : Hadith 6856
        ……Qatada said: Abu Abdullah, would this happen? Thereupon he said: Yes. By Allah, I found this in the days of ignorance that a person grazed the goat of a tribe and did not find anyone but their slave-girl (and he did not spare her) but committed adultery with her.
        Adultery with slave girl prohibited, stone death punishment:
        Muslim :: Book 17 : Hadith 4201
        Muslim :: Book 37 : Hadith 6676
        Muslim :: Book 40 : Hadith 6856
        Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.2.13
        Slave sex prohibited:
        Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 506
        Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
        That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us. The Prophet said, “It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection.” Qaza’a said, “I heard Abu Sa’id saying that the Prophet said, ‘No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it.”
        Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 79 :: Hadith 706
        Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 77 :: Hadith 600
        Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 46 :: Hadith 718
        Malik :: Book 29 : Hadith 29.32.95
        Muslim :: Book 17 : Hadith 4201
        Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 34 :: Hadith 432
        Forced sex with slave prohibited:
        Bukhari:6949
        Muslim :: Book 43 : Hadith 7181
        Dawud :: Book 12 : Hadith 2304
        Malik :: Book 54 : Hadith 54.16.42
        Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.3.15

        BRING ANY IDEOLOGY BETTER THAN THIS

        • Istanbulian says

          Mar 22, 2015 at 3:14 pm

          Buddhism and Taoism which have no slavery. Secular humanism is also a better ideology. Challenge met and overcome.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 22, 2015 at 8:43 pm

          The repulsive shabeer_hassan wrote:

          Narrated Abu Huraira:

          Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (******cast in the hearts of the enemy*****)
          ………………………………………

          Has the witless shabeer hassan forgotten that he is supposed to be convincing us that Muhammed *was not* a terrorist?

          Apparently so. This is what happens when one’s brain is on Islam…

          More:

          @SALIM SMITH & sex slavery

          ISLAM THE ONLY RELIGION ON EARTH FIRST ENCOURAGING/PROMOTING MARRIEGE ,EDUCATION ,GOOD BEHAVIOUR & FREEING
          ………………………………………

          Good God. The vile shabeer hassan is holding up coerced marriage with a slave as an ideal. How sickening.

          As far as education goes, the Muslim world is always dead last.

          While he is claiming that Islam promotes freeing slaves, he appears to have entirely missed the fact that the civilized world abolished slavery long since.

          More:

          Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari:
          Allah’s Apostle said, “If a person teaches his slave girl good manners properly, educates her properly, and then manumits and marries her, he will get a double reward. And if a man believes in Jesus and then believes in me, he will get a double reward. And if a slave fears his Lord (i.e. Allah) and obeys his masters, he too will get a double reward.”
          ………………………………………

          Notice there is no indication that slavery is a bad thing, In fact, this tells slaves not to resist their enslavement by Muslims. *Ugh*.

          More:

          CHALLENGE 1: ANY RELIGION/SYSTEM ON EARTH(WITH THEIR 1000 Y’RS HISTORY)WHO GIVE THEIR SLAVE GIRL TO FOUR THINGS THAT 1) EDUCATION 2)GOOD MANNERS 3) FREEGING 4) MARRIEGE IS THERE PLZ BRING IT IF U HAVE CONFIDENCE /COURAGGE … U LEAVE ISLAM BEC’S SLAVERY MY QUESTION WITH EVIDENCE I PROVED FOUR THINGS ISLAMIC LAW ALLOWEED FOR SLAVE GIRL,PLZ BRING THE EVIDENCE THAT 1000 Y’RS AGO ANY IDEOLOGY ON AGREED THESES FOUR CONDITION………….
          ………………………………………

          Is shabeer hassan a moral idiot? I believe he has amply proven that.

          More:

          IF U PROVE IT I WILL LEAVE MY RELIGION
          ………………………………………

          There is no chance of shabeer hassan leaving his foul creed. He has already confirmed many times that Islam is a religion of blood and terror, slavery, rape, pedophilia and murder. And he likes it that way, as does any pious Muslim.

          More:

          OR

          U COME BACK TO ISLAM

          AQGREED THE DEAL?
          ………………………………………

          Presumably this is aimed at the stalwart Saleem Smith. If shabeer hassan could, he would murder Saleem Smith for apostasy if he didn’t return to that vicious creed.

          And since there is no way to convince the cretinous shabeer hassan that there is anything wrong with keeping slave girls and only freeing them if they marry him, this argument cannot be won.

          But then, this is mainstream Muslim “morality”. *Ugh*.

          More:

          CHALLENGE 2:
          ISLAM Released war captive by the order of their family
          ………………………………………

          Here the repulsive shabeer hassan is lauding kidnapping and ransoming victims.

          More:

          FREEING SLAVE AS MUCH AS U CAN POSSIBLE
          ………………………………………

          Well, this is obviously false. “freeing slave as much as u can possible” means abolition, which every Infidel nation on earth has done. It would also prohibit taking new slaves, which shabeer hassan just condoned above.

          No one but Muslims are enslaving people. But shabeer hassan’s vicious coreligionists are doing just that in Mauritania, in northern Nigeria, in Sudan, and in the Islamic State.

          More:

          Slave rape prohibited:
          Malik :: Book 36 : Hadith 36.16.14
          ………………………………………

          My God, what crap. This Hadith does not prohibit Muslims for *raping their own slaves*—instead, it says that if a Muslim rapes another Muslim’s slave, that he must compensate the owner for whatever loss of worth he might incur:

          http://muflihun.com/malik/36/36.16.14

          More:

          24:33. and let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you know that they are good and trustworthy. And give them something yourselves out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. And force not your maids to prostitution, if they desire chastity, in order that you may make a gain in the (perishable) goods of this worldly life. But if anyone compels them (to prostitution), then after such compulsion, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to those women, i.e. He will forgive them because they have been forced to do this evil action unwillingly).
          ………………………………………

          Again, this does not prevent a Muslim from raping his own slave girls, nor of selling them as sex slaves.

          More:

          Sex with slave act of ignorance:

          Muslim :: Book 40 : Hadith 6856
          ……Qatada said: Abu Abdullah, would this happen? Thereupon he said: Yes. By Allah, I found this in the days of ignorance that a person grazed the goat of a tribe and did not find anyone but their slave-girl (and he did not spare her) but committed adultery with her.
          ………………………………………

          This does not prevent a Muslim from raping his *own* slaves, just of raping the possessions of other Muslims. How can shabeer hassan believe we will not see that?

          More:

          Adultery with slave girl prohibited, stone death punishment
          ………………………………………

          Again, this is only considered adultery if a Muslim has sex with another Muslim’s slave.

          Here’s what Islam *really* has to say about the premissibility of Muslims raping their slaves:

          Qur’an 23:5-6:

          “And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts); Except from their wives or those that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame”

          Those that the “right hand possesses” are captives and slaves. This makes it abundantly clear that Muslims have the “right” under Islam to rape their sex slaves.

          More:

          Malik :: Book 41 : Hadith 41.2.13
          Slave sex prohibited:
          Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 506
          Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
          That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interrupt us. The Prophet said, “It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection.” Qaza’a said, “I heard Abu Sa’id saying that the Prophet said, ‘No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it.”
          ………………………………………

          One can see from the above that far from prohibiting sex with captive women, Muhammed was sneering at his men for practicing coitus interruptus. The “Prophet” was fine with his raping their victims.

          More:

          BRING ANY IDEOLOGY BETTER THAN THIS
          ………………………………………

          Given that no non-Muslims formally practice slavery any more, I would say that virtually every ideology on the face of the earth is better than Islam, certainly on this issue.

          And we in the free West initiated this abolition of slavery. It was only pressure from the free West that led parts of the Muslim world—at least on paper—to outlaw slavery for a time.

          Now that so much of the Muslim world is re-Islamizing, slavery is surging back.

  6. Ephesian says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 3:58 am

    Any follower of islam is a muslim and therefore a follower of the islamic “faith”.The quran is their war manual,simple.What did the Turkish P.M say “there is no such thing as “moderate” islam” and there you have it.Is the Turkish P.M an extremist then? If not,why would he say that? Duh…because it’s true!The muslims feel “bad” do they? I feel bad too,watching the dhimmis kow-tow to them,I feel bad watching my country sink to unknown before depths in an attempt to appease them,sick of looking up at the tv and seeing them on every channel,even soaps,whingeing about “their rights” and how this country treats them soooo badly.There is no lock on the door of this country and if it’s not to your requirements there are a host of other islamic countries you can go to,go to them,because this one will never be islamic,never ruled by sharia law,never.

  7. Scott says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 4:28 am

    Ridiculous. Laughing stock.

  8. cs says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 4:51 am

    Does it offend you? So F%%k OFF, get offended silly pussy, why don’t you do anything about it? You just makes us sick with your fake excuses, your lies, your deceit, you are like snakes, like poison, you will never grow up, you will always be the bully who once get spanked comes to mum to complain about the mess you did at the first place. GET a LIFE.

  9. Crixus says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 5:25 am

    What a horse’s arse.

  10. allan carr bryan says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 5:26 am

    Erdogan and his Government are ALL liars regarding IS and all the bullshit that comes with it.

    A) Erdogan wants his own Caliphate (the return of the Ottoman Empire)

    B) Turkey want everybody to fight IS so they will not invade Turkey, they want to be seen as the good guys.

    C) With their Human Rights we should NOT let them into the EU.

    D) It’s in the Quran to lie to Infidels if it further advances the Muslim cause. Look no further than the lies he’s telling the American Muslim President.

    E) Ask yourself how many wounded IS asswipes are being treated in Turkish hospitals.

    F) How many excuses do they need to make regarding terrorists crossing into Syria. They do nothing to stop any. As a school report would say…Could do better.

  11. torino390 says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 5:36 am

    offended by this, offended by that, offended by everything it would appear. well, we’re offended too. by your constant bitching and moaning. give it a rest already.

  12. Steaming Pile says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 6:20 am

    Well that’s just fine and dandy; I was just wondering what could possibly be done that might offend The Muslims.

  13. Joe Shmo says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 6:20 am

    I’m offended by the Islamic State. Because it is Islamic, and I’m offended by Islam. If this lying hyena really hated the presence of the Islamic State so much why doesn’t he encourage his country and it’s leader to crush them rather than enabling them?

  14. Peggy says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 7:19 am

    If the Muslims feel bad about the term Islamic state and Islamic terrorism then they should convert to another religion because theirs is making them feel bad.
    They named it themselves IS and now when we repeat it we are making them feel bad.
    They are murdering us and terrorizing us but God forbid we make THEM feel bad.
    Suck it up or stand up to the thugs or convert if you fee bad.

  15. AJ Liberphile says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 10:03 am

    For all their sharia taqiya, they’re not very good at hiding the solution: If something ‘offends muslims’ then carry on doing it, it’s working.

  16. mortimer says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 10:17 am

    CHARADE: a blatant pretense or deception, especially something so full of pretense as to be a travesty

    Turkey is playing the charade that jihadism is not sacred example (Sunna) of Mohammed.

    Western countries and their politicians have to start exposing the charade that Muslims are playing.

    JIHAD IS ISLAMIC.

  17. Bucefalo says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 10:21 am

    If muslims are offended… remind me what does NOT offend them… chances are this is the truth. Nothing offends them like the truth, as they never do anything wrong, they’re all peaceful people to whom pedophilia, rape, murder, genital mutilation, domestic abuse, gender and creed apartheid are just cultural differences. So lovely. By the way, where are the people concerned about offending Christians by defining the Crusades a Christian endeavor? After all, if it’s all about his people take their scriptures, it must have been a bunch of Christianophobes.

  18. mortimer says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 10:23 am

    STOP THE CHARADE! Jihad is Islamic! If Turkish minister Volkan Bozkir does not like jihad, he should leave Islam.

    If it HURTS THE FEELINGS OF MUSLIMS to say that jihad is Islamic, MUSLIMS NEED REALITY THERAPY!

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 9:08 pm

      This is the same lying creep who claimed that the reason for Jihad in Europe was that they weren’t being given enough jobs:

      “A Turkish government official says to eliminate a root cause of Islamist extremism, European countries must give their Muslim residents greater opportunities and more reasons for hope…

      “Bozkır called that the leading reason for Islamist radicalization and terrorism. He said European leaders should take action so their Muslim populations will stop feeling they are ‘outside the circle.'”

      http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/to-end-extremism-give-muslims-opportunity-turkeys-eu-minister.aspx?pageID=238&nID=79992&NewsCatID=510

      Gee, if Muslims feeling like outsiders is the leading reason for Islamist radicalization and terrorism, then why are Muslims waging violent JIhad in what was Iraq and Syria, places that have been majority-Muslim for centuries?

      He just hopes we won’t cross-check his bullsh*t.

      • joanne Allam says

        Mar 22, 2015 at 9:48 pm

        Look what is going on in the world with all this madness and civil unrest in the middle east. They feel offended!,!! My god, decapitating innocent people,hanging and torturing them and they want us to bow down to there crap! Give them rights!!!when they use it against us. They live in our countries and take our hard earned nations money then blow us up with it. Do I want to live next door to a Muslim family? Not bloody likely, there wicked, evil people. They in site killing pain and torture and chant God is great, what God is that? Now we have one in our church but we have to show love and be tolerant ,because he’s Muslim, where’s our rights then! In our own countries. Our beautiful England is being turnt into a nightmare with these stupid oppressed women wearing hashmacs,They even scare kids.

  19. David Square says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 10:34 am

    Everything offends Muslims,especially cartoons. I eagerly await the brouhaha that will break out when Pamela’s cartoon exhibition is opened in Texas.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 9:16 pm

      Me too, David. I just finished my sixth entry and sent if off. Right now, I am taking a break from working on the seventh. I hope to get eight of them finished by the deadline.

      I hope there is a huge turnout, both of work and attendees!

  20. David says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    It’s corrupt and evil Mullas and preachers who promote terrorism not the Quran or Muhammad.

    We Baha’is believe in the Quran as the Word of God and Muhammad as a Prophet and we read from the Holy Quran in our Houses of Worship yet we have not one terrorist or jihadist amongst us and are regarded by governments throughout the world as amongst the most peaceful and tolerant Faiths in the world.

    Baha’is don’t have one thing, that is Mullas. It’s their leaders which have caused this problem not the Quran or Muhammad as we are living proof that millions of people can have a unifying, peaceful and tolerant belief in the Quran.

    Our World Centre is in Israel and we have perfect relations with the Jews. And yet we believe in the Quran and would give our life for its truth.

    We have been persecuted in Iran for over 170 years yet we know that those responsible are the religious leaders not the Quran. No-one knows persecution at the hands of religious fanatics moreso than the Baha’is. There is no more qualified group so far as relentless prolonged persecution with view of extermination yet Baha’is worldwide firmly believe that Muhammad was sent by God and the Quran is the Word of God.

    This corruption and perversion that exists today has at its source evil preachers intent on destruction and barbarism with political motives.

    • pumbar says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 1:40 pm

      So you’re okay with the whole, “slay the unbelievers wherever you find them” thing”?

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 22, 2015 at 9:57 pm

      Good grief—the trolls are out in force on this thread. David wrote:

      It’s corrupt and evil Mullas and preachers who promote terrorism not the Quran or Muhammad.
      ………………………………..

      While David often goes on about how the Baha’i reject the Hadiths, he will not admit that Qur’an itself—and Muhammad’s depiction in that foul tome—are *incredibly violent”.

      Quran 8:12 specifically talks about terrorizing and murdering Infidels:

      “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

      Or how about this, re the actions of the baleful “Prophet”:

      Quran 8:67 :

      “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

      More:

      We Baha’is believe in the Quran as the Word of God and Muhammad as a Prophet and we read from the Holy Quran in our Houses of Worship yet we have not one terrorist or jihadist amongst us and are regarded by governments throughout the world as amongst the most peaceful and tolerant Faiths in the world.
      ……………………………….

      What David *doesn’t* tell you is that the Baha’i are oppressed and murdered in Muslim countries for, among other things, *not* believing that they should wage violent Jihad in order to impose the ideology of Muhammed.

      More:

      Baha’is don’t have one thing, that is Mullas. It’s their leaders which have caused this problem not the Quran or Muhammad as we are living proof that millions of people can have a unifying, peaceful and tolerant belief in the Quran.
      ……………………………….

      It is not that the Baha’i don’t have clergy—many other faiths have clergy, and they are not violent. It is that Baha’i have a fantasy view of Muhammed and the Qur’an as peaceful.

      As for the “millions of people”, there are fewer than 5 million Baha’i world-wide, as opposed to well over a billion Muslims.

      More:

      Our World Centre is in Israel and we have perfect relations with the Jews.
      ……………………………….

      Of course, the reason their world centre is in Israel is that no Muslim country—including Iran, where Baha’i developed—would allow such a thing.

      More:

      And yet we believe in the Quran and would give our life for its truth.
      ……………………………….

      The problem is not so much that the Baha’i believe in a fantasy Qur’an, but they try to convince *other Infidels* that they should not be concerned about the threatening creed based on the Qur’an.

      In other words, it is not so much that they would give their lives for their fantasy view of the Qur’an, but that they are urging *us* to do the same.

      More:

      We have been persecuted in Iran for over 170 years yet we know that those responsible are the religious leaders not the Quran.
      ……………………………….

      Muslims have persecuted unbelievers sine the very beginning, and entirely on the model of the “Prophet”.

      More:

      No-one knows persecution at the hands of religious fanatics moreso than the Baha’is. There is no more qualified group so far as relentless prolonged persecution with view of extermination yet Baha’is worldwide firmly believe that Muhammad was sent by God and the Quran is the Word of God.
      ……………………………….

      And they want us to suffer at the hands of Muslims in just the same way, unable even to understand where our oppression originates, and unable to defend against it.

      That is why David is no ally of ours—even if he won’t personally wage violent Jihad against us.

      Notice that he does not try to convince *Muslims* of the peaceful nature of Muhammed and the Qur’an—he just offers this whitewash to the *victims* of Islam.

    • Ephesian says

      Mar 24, 2015 at 8:54 am

      And your point exactly is what? We don’t need to hear your lies.Any religion that advocates killing,beheading,war,kiddy fiddling etc is not a religion at all,but is of the devil,the father of all lies.You should not bow down to a false God,and worship graven images(i.e.moon gods)and one day,EVERY knee shall bow to God,then you shall see face to face.

  21. Bezelel says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    If someone wants to be a member of a satanic death cult, it doesn’t pay to be too thin skinned about criticism. You will be judged by the company you keep.

  22. BC says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    The question is, if there was no Islam would there be terrorism and atrocities. Everybody knows the answer to that, Is there Hindu terrorism, Christian terrorism, Buddhist terroism? Well maybe one can find a few isolated examples but nothing approaching the terroism of Islam.

  23. Sam says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    I am originally from Turkey. I don’t have any solid evidence but thousands of people including the Erdogan government are making big money helping ISIS directly or indirectly. I bet money on this. Plus most Turks will support the Caliphate as they hope to get it as they believe it belongs to Turks.

    We also send money to Turkey as a NATO member which is fast going back to being an Islamic state reminiscing old Ottoman empire.

    I believe we are in the most dangerous times of human history as we have never had a religious war at this scale with so many crazy people with so much technology and power plus stupid enablers like leftists all over the World.

  24. gravenimage says

    Mar 22, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    Turkey’s EU minister: using terms “Islamic State” & “Islamic terrorism” offends Muslims
    ………………………………..

    F*cking *everything* “offends Muslims”.

    And this is particularly ludicrous—pious Muslims are flocking to the Islamic State, precisely *because* it is a Jihad terror state.

    But Muslims know that Infidels don’t use “terrorist” as a compliment, and no one is allowed to speak of Islam critically.

    And this is nothing but Taqiyya, in any case—Turkey has been actively funding the Islamic State, and has done nothing, their troops just sitting by and watching ISIS attacks.

  25. Mark says

    Mar 23, 2015 at 12:04 am

    More and more genuine civilized people are caring
    less and less about what offends the walking shit stick Muslims.
    When you moderate Muzzies get off your ass and shut down the
    brutality of your “fringe extremist” brethren, only
    then will you have credibility to dialogue.

  26. Linde Barrera says

    Mar 23, 2015 at 12:04 am

    Turkey cannot be trusted, not from world War I and before, not now, not ever. I am almost finished reading a great book on the little known plots to exterminate the Armenian people by the Turks from approximately 1896-1918. Turkey (the Committee of Union and Progress) murdered an estimated 1,500,000 Armenian men, women and children. If the Armenian adults had agreed to convert to Islam, they would not have been shot, bayonneted, starved on the marches to the Syrian desert. Turkey is still in denial about commiting this genocide. They claim they had to kill several thousand Armenian men because these men were spies for Russia or fighting on the side of the Russian tatars. England, Italy, France, Germany, Austria and the US all knew about these death marches that the Armenians were forced to do. Very heart breaking, true story. Read it if you can: “Caravans to Oblivion” by CS Graber.

  27. TH says

    Mar 23, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    Isalm has about 20% of the word’s population, 1.5 billion and the rest of us have to avoid offending all those cry babies. They are the ones who have the prioblem of being offended and cry babies, then let them go back to thier own hellholes and continue with their infantilism while they let the rest of us get on with our lives. If Islam causes them psychological problems thanks to which they are unable to grow up and they remain permanent infacts offended by any remark about the truth of their barbaric ideology, then let them leave the rest of us in peace.

  28. Ray Caruso says

    Mar 23, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    The term “Turkey” offends me. I demand that territory be referred to as Muslim-Occupied Armenia, Greece, and Assyria.

  29. MarineDad1957 says

    Mar 31, 2015 at 11:01 am

    America was founded on the belief of a Christian God! That all people were created in his image and were free to practice this Peaceful Faith. So, the pilgrims began building farms to feed their people and Churches to honor their God. After a while, there were businesses built by families to produce the goods and services that the farmers needed to sustain a better life for the community. The poor and downtrodden were cared for and helped by the Church and their followers until they could become productive members of society as our country grew. This was the beginning of a Civilization of people that came together to work together toward a better life for all. The number of people were in the thousands and their creed was Love thy neighbor as yourself, so almost everyone was willing to help everyone else.
    Of course there were bandits and desperados, and we created laws to handle them. When they got out of hand, the community got together and took care of the issues, according to God’s laws at first, then mans laws that were considerably humane later on, based on teachings from the Bible. They were not perfect but they were fairly humane for the times. Never have so few done so much to provide a place for all men and women to accomplish so much without having to loot and steal from another country.
    What has the Muslim religion or people contributed to this world, from the beginning, they have always created wealth from looting and killing and stealing the work and prosperity from someone elses good works. Thats all that they can do, because their god is a tyrannical, murdering child!!! He teaches them nothing about how to live life in harmony with others. Death and destruction in the name of allah and muhammad is all they know.
    If it weren’t for Judaism and Christianity, there would be no Muslim religion because they would have all died off from starvation and disease. They are incapable of taking care of themselves because their religion promotes stupidity and death. Nothing else.So when the Muslims catch up to us in intelligence and work ethics, maybe and just maybe, we’ll listen to their complaints.

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