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UK Muslim cleric under fire for views on gays: “Views I hold have been held by Muslims for hundreds of years”

Mar 1, 2015 5:44 pm By Robert Spencer

“It had been reported that Dr al-Haddad’s talk could still go ahead.” Of course. The limiting of the freedom of speech in Britain is all in the direction of shutting down critics of jihad terror, not those who justify and enable it. Haitham al-Haddad is the voice of Britain’s future.

“Cleric: ‘Banning legitimate debate will not stop terrorism,'” by Darshna Soni, Channel 4, March 1, 2015:

A controversial preacher who had been due to speak at the University of Westminster on the day Mohammed Emwazi was unmasked, tells Channel 4 News that banning legitimate speakers is “naive”.

Haitham Al-Haddad who was due to speak to the university’s Islamic Society told Channel 4 News that he hoped his speech would still go ahead.

The controversial speaker who has previously reportedly described homosexuality as a “scourge” and a “criminal act”, was due to give a speech entitled “Who is Muhammad?” on the day it was revealed that Mohammed Enwazi had graduated from there. However it was later cancelled.

Since then, a coalition row about limiting free speech on campuses has come amid claims that Mohammed Emwazi was radicalised during his years at Westminster University. The government has already passed a controversial counter-terrorism bill which compels universities to prevent students being drawn into terrorism.

But the Lib Dems have today been accused of trying to water down the guidance that is to be issued to them.
‘The preacher debate’

But should preachers like al-Haddad be banned from debating their ideas with students? Channel 4 News put it to Dr Al-Haddad that his views have been heavily criticised by some, and that 3,000 people had signed a petition against his talk before Emwazi was named.

He told this programme that banning legitimate speakers on university campuses would not prevent terrorism. “This is a naive and oversimplistic approach,” he said.

Mr Al-Haddad insisted that Muslim speakers had a more influential role to play in wider society. “If you find my views distasteful, then we should debate this. We are part of British society and we should contribute to shaping British values.”

On his own views he said: “The views I hold have been held by muslims for hundreds of years – and have been endorsed by British muslims. All my views can be found in books inside university libraries. They have never created terrorism.”

“I have been so vocal against Isis and all extreme groups,” he said. “I have warned women against going to Syria for any course. Nothing has been reported. This shows the normative views of Islam is nothing to do with terrorism. The whole counter-terrorism narrative has to be investigated carefully.”
‘Wider concerns’

The developments came as the university confirmed that Emwazi graduated from a three-year course in information systems and business management in 2009. The University of Westminster has hit back at claims that it is a fertile breeding ground for Islamic fundamentalism.

It had been reported that Dr al-Haddad’s talk could still go ahead. However, a University of Westminster spokesman told Channel 4 News: “No meeting is taking place tomorrow Monday 2nd March between representatives of the University of Westminster and Sheikh Haitham Al-Haddad. All student events have been postponed until further notice as announced last week.”

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  1. Connor Attard says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    How to make a liberal’s head explode. Do you ban the preacher to combat homophobia, or would that be Islamophobic?

    • Manuel Lappalainen says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 6:54 pm

      Actually gay students at the a university he was invited to go speak to have made a petition to have this homophobic and anti-semite from banned from the university, only to be told he had the right to be there under “freedom of expression” even though the university has banned in the past anti-muslim speakers…
      So there’s your answer sadly :/

  2. allan carr bryan says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    It seems strange that Muslim scumbags hate homosexuals yet in the early 70’s when I was in the Merchant Navy it was well known that Arab loved small boys for sexual pleasure.
    Just today I watched a video where the IS captured some Muslims in either Iraq or Syria and this guy told the camera he was repeatedly raped and told he was now in IS. It seems like hypocrisy is rife, and these savages bend the rules to suit themselves.

    • Angemon says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 6:29 pm

      I think they might have some sort of “Big Bob” approach to homosexuality:

    • Itinerant says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 7:01 pm

      Western Soldiers in Afghanistan were disgusted to see small boys sold and passed around but were told by their superiors, (via politically correct MP’s far from the front-lines), to respect the culture;
      One report commissioned by the Americans,
      “details the bizarre interactions a U.S. Army medic and her colleagues had with Afghan men in the southern province of Kandahar.
      In one instance, a group of local male interpreters had contracted gonorrhea anally but refused to believe they could have contracted it sexually — “because they were not homosexuals.”
      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/28/afghan-men-struggle-sexual-identity-study-finds/

      • Mirren10 says

        Mar 3, 2015 at 11:48 am

        From the article Itinerant linked;

        ”Apparently, according to the report, Pashtun men interpret the Islamic prohibition on homosexuality to mean they cannot “love” another man — but that doesn’t mean they can’t use men for “sexual gratification.”

        Rather sums up islam; *love* is haram, but selfish gratification is halal. Evil scum.

  3. Angemon says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    On his own views he said: “The views I hold have been held by muslims for hundreds of years – and have been endorsed by British muslims. All my views can be found in books inside university libraries.

    Translation: “I’m a muslim, you can’t touch me, so f*** off”.

  4. Jay Boo says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    Who was Muhammad?
    Muhammad was someone who publically hated homosexuality while privately participated in it.
    Muslims follow his example.
    In addition, Hollywood seems to have some clue to this question since it copied a prototype character resembling sadistic Muhammad, as the sexually perverted sociopath in “Fifty Shades of Grey” who sought out a submissive sex-slave worshipper to satisfy his lust.
    I

  5. Julia says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    I am by no means a fan of this radical nut, but, to be fair, he’s right. He’s only getting shut down because anti-gay hate speech is the only place the UK lays down the law regarding what Muslims are permitted to say. And, as deplorable as anti-gay hate speech is, it doesn’t have anything to do with terrorism.

    I want to trash this guy completely, but I’ve seen his youtube videos telling women to stay away from ISIS. I’ve also seen him on the radar for writing a letter to ISIS explaining how un-Islamic it was to kill hostages, I think that was regarding Muslim hostages, but still. I think he genuinely can’t stand ISIS and he has dissuaded many cuckoo pants Muslims from sympathizing with them.

    However, there’s more to not like about hardcore Muslims than terrorism. He embraces all the institutionalized bigotry and hatred for women, gays, and non-Muslims in general. Just because he doesn’t support “workplace violence” doesn’t mean he’s a decent human being who should be allowed to spread hate on college campuses.

    • cs says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 7:39 pm

      I was watching him, I found him specially repulsive, he gave me the creeps, he is a proper supremacist retarded.

    • Rob Crawford says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 8:24 pm

      His videos are in English, right? What does he say in Arabic?

  6. cs says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    That is comic, have you investigated the Quran and the Hadiths??? Look no further for radicalization.

    • mortimer says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 9:15 pm

      The Islamic trilogy of the Koran, hadiths and the Sira are the basis of all Islamic teachings. 99% of our Western politicians have not read ANY of them.

      That is not only shocking, but criminally negligent of them. How can they defend us without reading them?

      Winston Churchill read Mein Kampf so he could understand Hitler. Chamberlain did not!

  7. Costas says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    This islamic snake under the name Al Haddad is a bigoted salafi scum.
    You can see him with other snakes demanding the death penalty for the homosexuals { living all in the totally stupid Europe with the social aid of the totally stupid Europeans …} in this hate video from a mosque in Norway :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeC2OLv_Fhw

  8. mortimer says

    Mar 1, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    Al Haddad said: “The views I hold have been held by muslims for hundreds of years – and have been endorsed by British muslims. All my views can be found in books inside university libraries. They have never created terrorism.”

    All but his last statement are CORRECT. The last statement that all his views “have never created terrorism” is pure taqiyya.

    This is the sort of lie that must be exposed hopefully from his own statements. No doubt, al Haddad excludes ‘jihad’ from his personal definition of ‘terrorism’.

    • Jay Boo says

      Mar 1, 2015 at 9:42 pm

      Here is another daily dose of micro-manager Allah ‘wisdom’ for wacky Muslims to live by:

      MEMRI: Risks of Female Masturbation According to Islamic Teachings

      • Bezelel says

        Mar 1, 2015 at 10:39 pm

        Jay Boo, The man in the youtube is serious. That’s disturbing. I can’t imagine his reaction to the Hite Report. And I don’t think even Sher Hite could advise an FGM victim on how to get the job done. The goats get treated better.

        • Jay Boo says

          Mar 2, 2015 at 12:42 am

          I notice that too Bezelel
          He keeps a straight face.
          It would seem that at some point he would have enough self-awareness to realize just how foolish he sounds but since Muslims are not allowed to question Islam, I would guess that he knows that he is unlikely to be called out on his insanity.

  9. Heather says

    Mar 2, 2015 at 6:50 am

    I was under the impression that heaps of muslim men are of the homosexual variety whilst pretending that they hate it
    That’s why in the mosque, at weddings and funerals the men and women are always separated. The men like to be with only men. I don’t wonder why.
    Have you seen the videos where only the muslim men are watching the boys dance!!! Boys?? C’mon.
    That’s why they cover up the women, they hate women. Are threatened by women. They only use women to make more muslims so they can take over the world.

    .

    • Xav says

      Mar 5, 2015 at 12:13 am

      Homosexual men don’t hate women nor are they any more sexual than heterosexual men are.

      Sometimes people don’t realise that their comments vilify homosexuality even if they intented otherwise.

  10. WEBOne says

    Mar 2, 2015 at 7:18 am

    Go on YouTube and search for muslims and goats / sheep. You’ll find some amusing clips recorded on night vision equipment around Afghan and Iraqi villages… There are several forms of bacterial infections that can be transmitted from animals to humans including a couple of common STDs…

  11. Lia Wissing says

    Mar 2, 2015 at 9:32 am

    Dear God, please save us from muslims contributing to the shaping of British discourse.

  12. jayell says

    Mar 2, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    “If you find my views distasteful, then we should debate this. We are part of British society and we should contribute to shaping British values.” No, you are not. You are part of an uninvited parallel society that has no basis in the British culture or identity. You are an impostor and any contribution you make is quite unsolicited and unwelcome.

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