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UK: Three Muslim teens arrested on way to join Islamic State

Mar 16, 2015 1:20 am By Robert Spencer

Jihadi-John Mohammed EmwaziNot that this has anything to do with Islam. But that leads to the question: if the Islamic State really has nothing to do with Islam, why does it have this unprecedented appeal among young Muslims in the West? The learned analysts don’t even try to offer an explanation for that.

“UK arrests 3 teens stopped in Turkey on way to Syria,” by Gregory Katz and Susan Fraser, Associated Press, March 15, 2015:

LONDON (AP) — Three male teens from Britain who reached Turkey before being deported to the U.K. and arrested are believed to be the latest examples of a worrying trend — the rising number of young Britons seeking to travel to Syria to join extremists there.

The three suspects were being questioned at a central London police station after their alleged bid to get to Syria, coming soon after three British schoolgirls managed to elude authorities and get to Syria last month. The girls are believed by police to have joined Islamic State militants in their self-declared caliphate in parts of Syria and Iraq.

British police said the three males, two 17-year-old boys and a 19-year-old man, have been arrested on suspicion of planning terrorist acts. They haven’t been charged and their names haven’t been released.

When the schoolgirls managed to slip into Syria despite a search by both Turkish and British authorities, there was finger-pointing on both sides. Things were quite different Sunday, as Turkey and Britain hailed the fruits of their cooperation.

The male trio left Britain several days ago, traveling to Spain and then flying from Barcelona to Turkey. They were detained in Istanbul Friday after British officials notified Turkish authorities.

British legislator Keith Vaz, chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, said the case shows that the number of young Britons trying to reach the conflict zone in Syria “is on a much larger scale” than had been thought.

Vaz praised Turkish authorities for acting quickly to prevent the teens from entering Syria.

Police counterterrorism officials and security services personnel have said their resources have been badly stretched as they try to maintain surveillance on the growing number of individuals interested in joining the extremists. They have warned that some who return after spending time in the conflict zone plan to launch attacks inside Britain.

A senior Turkish government official, who can’t be named because of Turkish rules that bar civil servants from speaking to journalists without prior authorization, said the two 17-year-old boys had been detained at Istanbul’s Sabiha Gokcen airport Friday by Turkish authorities who were acting on intelligence provided by British officials.

The teenagers were planning to travel to Syria, the official said. Turkish authorities believe they wanted to join IS extremists, but the official cautioned that they weren’t “100 percent” certain that was their aim.

The 19-year-old man was detained at the airport after questioning by police based on profiling at the airport, the official said. British police originally believed only two teens were traveling, but soon learned that a third was involved.

They were deported to London on Saturday — instead of Spain as is the normal procedure in Turkey — because Britain insisted that they be returned to Britain, the Turkish official said.

The Turkish official described the incident as a “‘joint Turkish-British operation,” and said Turkey welcomed the timely intelligence provided by Britain.

“Turkey is doing all that it can to stop the passage into Syria, but there has to be cooperation,” the official said. “This operation shows what can be achieved when there is cooperation.”

Turkey’s strategic position as a convenient link between Western Europe and Syria has meant that an increasing number of Britons have traveled there to use it as a jumping off point to enter Syria and link up with IS.

British police say roughly 700 Britons have traveled to Syria to join extremists. Recent cases indicate a growing number of young women are traveling there to become “jihadi brides.”…

Why on earth would they go join this misunderstanding and misinterpretation of Islam? British police are remarkably incurious about that.

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  1. Linde Barrera says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 1:43 am

    Turkey is not to be trusted. In the past, they can and have done the right thing, and they also have done many cruel and inhuman acts. Very hard to predict. And just because Turkey helps a western nation today, doesn’t mean they will tomorrow. I believe the UK security really prevailed and came on strong to the Turks to achieve this outcome. So glad these 3 young punks were stopped.

    • Charli Main says

      Mar 16, 2015 at 9:02 am

      Any help that Turkey appears to give to Western Governments is given with an ulterior motive. The Turks are still desperate to get into the European Union. If they ever succeed, EU Governments will find themselves responsible for feeding, housing, clothing and educating some 75 Million Muslims.
      Not to mention that every Muslim Turk will have the right to move into any other EU country and start living off that country´s benefits system.
      The Turks are at present anxious to play the ” good guy” “good cop” role.

      • mariam rove says

        Mar 16, 2015 at 10:53 am

        The Turks should never be admitted to the EU. If you think EU has problems now with Muslims, if they let the Turks in, it is like launching a nuclear weapon on EU. They will be finished. M

        • Ric says

          Mar 16, 2015 at 11:23 am

          You are right… but we know the mindset of Western leadership within the EU. Once can speculate that they are stricken with a deep-seeded naivete or just utterly dimwitted. I suspect it is denial and more so the malady that has dulled the minds of Western-leadership and culture, this being political-correctness and absurdity, perhaps a death-wish.

          These wannabe Jihadists, more than likely, will be treated with a wee slap on the wrist, deemed misguided and permitted in time to carry on with their terrorists aspirations sooner than later.

      • Shane says

        Mar 16, 2015 at 5:30 pm

        Anyone who joins IS should have their citizenship revoked and their passport taken away after deporting them. No sympathy for savages who would join IS. The solution to this problem is to stop all Muslim immigration into the West and to encourage Muslims to leave Western countries.

    • wallace says

      Mar 16, 2015 at 10:09 am

      Linde Barrera, “so glad these 3 punks were stopped” , me not so much. Now we have 3 disgruntled brats back in the country talking to other disgruntled brats, plotting and planning their next move against the “kufaar”. Intelligence services here are being stretched to the max. The 3 “punks” have been bailed and released and are probably sitting in the Cage office telling their tale of woe. I would have let them go then have their passports cancelled so they cant return.

  2. Georg says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 2:04 am

    So the UK does its utmost to keep jihadists within its borders and return those who find themselves far from British citizens?

    Will there ever be an adult in charge who comes down on them like a hammer in defense of those who have chosen not to live as lowlives?

  3. Saleem Smith says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 2:17 am

    The three UK Muslima teens in the article have nothing to worry about.

    Islamic Sharia ruled lands are an earthly paradise for both Muslim and non-Muslim women alike. Or so the Islamic apologists say.

    ISIS are following ALL of Islam, not just SOME of it.

    We ex-Muslims know that Islamic theology is intrinsically misogynistic.

    >>>>>

    Should Women Respect Muhammad and His Islam?

    Muslims love to claim that Islam has granted women equal rights. Sadly, this is not true. The Qur’an states several times that women are to be granted less rights then those enjoyed by men.

    This article will examine the status of women and their rights according to Islam, as well as some of the many disgusting things that Muhammad said regarding women.

    The inherent oppression and degradation of women in Islam is abhorrent. For every good thing Muhammad’s Islam says about women, one can easily find a passage referring to women in the most unkindly of lights. Such is the reality of the fundamentally contradictory religion of Islam. One minute Islam is the perfect religion of peace and justice – the next it commands Muslims to maim, murder and subjugate others. Muslim women should learn the truth about Islam, and fast, if they truly care about their daughters and the future of women in general.

    ~~~~~

    In controversial verse 4:34 of the Qur’an, men are told to beat their disobedient wives after first warning them and then sending them to sleep in separate beds. This horrendous verse approves of and even sanctions, domestic abuse. As we shall see momentarily, Islamic theology also permits slavery and rape. No person of sound mind and good heart could believe that this is the wish of god. Islam is nothing more than the cult of a long dead, selfish little mad man named Muhammad ibn Abdullah.

    Qur’an, 4:34

    Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.

    Here is an examination of how other translators render this controversial passage:

    Pickthall: “and scourge them”
    Yusuf Ali: “(And last) beat them (lightly)”
    Al-Hilali/Khan: “(and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)”
    Shakir: “and beat them”
    Sher Ali: “and chastise them”
    Khalifa: “then you may (as a last alternative) beat them”
    Arberry: “and beat them”
    Rodwell: “and scourge them”
    Sale: “and chastise them”
    Asad: “then beat them”

    Hadith, Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Number 2142:

    Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

    The Qur’an compares women to a field (tilth) that a man is free to use when, and as he chooses:

    002.223
    Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).

    According to Muhammad and his Islam, a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man’s:

    002:282 “Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her”

    The Qur’an permits men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls if they want to do so:

    004:003 “If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice”

    Hadith, Bukhari, Vol. 1, Book 6, No. 301:

    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

    Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

    The Qur’an allows men to marry pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated.

    065.004
    And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have it not. And for those with child, their period shall be till they bring forth their burden. And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah, He maketh his course easy for him.

    Muhammad and his Islam have betrayed the women folk. Here is some more of what Muhammad supposedly said and did:

    Hadith, Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 460:

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    Allah’s Apostle said, “If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning.”

    Hadith, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371:

    Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-‘azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

    “By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel’s saddle.” — Ibn Majah 1854

    • dlbrand says

      Mar 17, 2015 at 3:22 am

      “We ex-Muslims know that Islamic theology is intrinsically misogynistic.”

      Indeed, SS. And much more on the above topic, as I know you know, can be added to it.

      Though I have never been and will never be Muslim, I am, nonetheless, in my study of Islam, a disciplined student of an ex-Muslim.

      As such, in brief, I know assuredly, these young Muslims flocking to join IS; because they know reading, writing, and arithmetic, minimally; they know, the Islam of IS is the Islam of their to-be-loved- and- hallowed “prophet.”

      They know, the Islam of IS is the Islam of the “Noble Companions”; in short, in other words, they know, the Islam of IS is the Islam their books and their Imams told and tell them about.

  4. PRCS says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 2:27 am

    “Extremists”.

    As in–but apparently beyond the ability of politicians, ‘journalists’, police, etc.to comprehend–is the compliance ‘Allah’ expects of His every slave.

    That most of the world’s Muslims are not even attempting to fully comply with Qur’an (and to a lesser extent the sunn’ah)–does not negate that expectation.

    If it’s ‘in the book’, why do they continue to believe (or pretend) that compliance constitutes ‘extremism’?

    If it’s in ‘the book’–and remains valid to this day, no matter how violent, hateful, or barbaric–why do so many folks continue to believe the ‘extremist’ lie?

    The ‘extremist’ notion gives Muslims–and their apologists (who either don’t know what Islam’s texts actually say or pretend not to) to buffalo the public with the ongoing deception game they’re so good at.

    Would those clueless folks label the Pope an ‘extremist’?

    • roger woodhouse says

      Mar 16, 2015 at 6:27 am

      I wonder if Cameron still believes Islam to be a ‘religion of peace’? I wish someone would ask him . Hopefully come May he will be nothing but an irritating irelevance whose time in office was recorded as a massive mistake and disaster for the British people

      • Anna says

        Mar 16, 2015 at 9:53 am

        cameron is working for his handlers. His andestors became rich selling black slaves ( he must hate Wilberforce and friends who banned slavery and Who I consider real aenglish men)
        )He knows very well Islam is not a religion of peace, as do
        Merkel, Hollande and Obama.
        Not to mention Prince Charles who in a recent interview expressed ” concern” at how born and bred British youth could possibly join jihad”. His ” solution” is to channel these ” youth’s ” “sense of adventure ” (or words to that effect) into something more meaningful.
        He failed to notice they are all Muslims. No Christian, Secular, Jewish or Hindu youth seem to feel the need to join the Muslim jihadists in Syria. But to dare To mention ” Islam” would be tantamount to sacrilege and deep betrayal of his Saudi handlers in his mind.

        • Raja says

          Mar 16, 2015 at 11:43 am

          Anna,

          You are bang on target about Islam. I would like to add my observation about Islam. The Western leaders do not have the character or the courage to speak the truth. They cannot dare say that Islam is responsible for modern day terrorism. I am pretty sure that they know the craftiness of the mullahs and clerics and other leaders of Isalm who cannot resist the temptation of mixing their so called religion with politics and prospect for future hegemony on the face of the earth.

          The politicians are in a fools paradise who think that vast majority of Islam followers are peace loving. That is only partly true. The vast majority of moslems are superstitious and have been conned with blatant lies and deceptions. The blatant lies and propaganda machinery are put into action by the political wing of Islam who are generally terrorist organisations.No one int he world can match their guile in the dirty tricks department. As Signapore has tight regulations to regulate the imams & mullahs for peace of that nation the foolish Western politicians must learn form them. Just saying that terrorists understand only the language of force (Obama) is grossly insufficient to say the least.

          Let us expose the real Islam. God bless……..Raja

        • roger woodhouse says

          Mar 16, 2015 at 11:46 am

          Prince Charles , like the rest of the establishment are too scared to even mention Islam and ‘muslims ‘ in the same breath even though they do know just who is who . I can understand Charles ‘hedging’ his bets to avoid controversy and cries of ‘political interference but as for the rest there is no excuse. .Their time is running out hopefully and ‘common sense’ will return on May 8th.with a massive vote for UKIP

  5. pdxnag says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 5:48 am

    Let these folks choose to renounce citizenship (in favor of citizenship in the worldwide Islamic Ummah) and then remove themselves from all western free nations forever.

    Block their reentry into the UK!

    • roger woodhouse says

      Mar 16, 2015 at 6:31 am

      Hear hear. But doesn’t this whole episode sum up everything that is wrong with Britain today. We continue to send out the wrong message and then wonder ‘why’ when things go wrong. These people and all others who choose to leave our shores to fight Jihad shoud NEVER be allowed back WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GROW A BACK BONE.? Only UKIP can reverse this downward spiral and not before time I fear

      • torino390 says

        Mar 16, 2015 at 8:27 am

        when the likes of the BBC still refer to these terrorists as ‘British teenagers’, joe bloggs doesn’t have a clue. as John Lennon said, ‘just give me some truth, all I want is the truth’ – not too much to ask from someone like the ‘strictly impartial’ BBC is it? well obviously it is. I have lost all confidence in mainstream media. the truth is out there, but you have to look for it, and that’s a big problem. UKIP all the way.

    • Charli Main says

      Mar 17, 2015 at 4:06 am

      But—but but the worldwide Ummah won´t be giving its citizens a FREE house, FREE healthcare, FREE education and FREE bag fulls of money.
      What ever would Muslims do if they left the land of FREE BENIFITS.

  6. mulla abdulla says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 5:59 am

    Apparently these scumbags are back in Britain and have been let out on bail now – free to rape and terrorise the decent folk of this fair isle once again

  7. mortimer says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 8:31 am

    If 700 Muslim youth have left UK, that means hundreds more could go or would like to go. The allure of ISIS is based on the idea that it is UNCOMPROMISINGLY ISLAMIC.

    • cs says

      Mar 16, 2015 at 10:01 am

      Let them go, just make sure they don’t come back, through every means possible.

      • Georg says

        Mar 16, 2015 at 4:04 pm

        When a bar has a belligerant patron who’s intent on abusing others and ruining the establishment there is an elegant and tidy solution. But here we have a markedly more serious offense met with a much softer response. Politics > Pragmatism… This is Britain and much of the world’s plight, as well as Western Islamism’s milieu de guerre.

  8. Caroline says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    The vast majority of the British public don’t care about these would-be Jihadis. I would be happy to see them go, never to return. All the main parties have totally lost the plot and they bend over backwards to appease the ROP. I will also be voting UKIP in the hope of some sanity returning to our politics.

  9. thomas pellow says

    Mar 16, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    And one more-

    “18-year-old man arrested at home in Birmingham suspected of being ready to go to Syria to join ISIS.
    West Midland Police said the man is from Hodge Hill area of Birmingham.
    He was arrested at 7am on suspicion of terrorism offences, police say.
    It comes after three British teenage jihadists were arrested in Turkey.
    Security operation stopped them joining Islamic State fighters in Syria.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2996895/18-year-old-man-arrested-home-Birmingham-suspected-ready-Syria-join-ISIS.html#ixzz3UaIEtSuf

  10. Dave says

    Mar 17, 2015 at 5:07 am

    Three men, who had previously left the country and were then arrested and returned on “suspicion of terrorist offenses” are bailed???
    So, let’s get this right.
    A previous IS wannabe from the UK, who was arrested and then bailed, eludes the authorities and winds up in Afghanistan fighting for the Taliban where he is killed. So we know removal of a passport is no barrier to leaving the country for someone who’s determined enough.

    Now 3 other IS wannabes who have previously made it as far as Turkey, are returned and arrested. So we have 3 people, detained under suspicion of terrorism, all known flight risks using a pathway that has previously been demonstrated and they get bail???
    Presumably, they too will shortly be found in Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan fighting for IS.
    The Met (who arrested and released them) either secretly really want them out of the country or are plumbing new depths of incompetence.

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