Then why are they in Canada? To emigrate in the cause of Allah, as Muhammad did from Mecca to Medina, in order to bring Islam to a new land. They came to Canada to bring Sharia there.
“42% of Canadian Muslims Admit Islam and West ‘Irreconcilable,'”by Dalit Halevy and Ari Yashar, Arutz Sheva, April 13, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Two polls that received very little fanfare were released late last month, and found that the majority of Christian and Jewish Canadians think Islam is “irreconcilable” with the West – it also found 42% of Canadian Muslims agree with that assessment.
The polls, conducted by Leger Marketing, were published in the Vancouver Sun and found 63% of Protestants, 62% of Jews and 60% of Catholics felt Islam cannot coexist with Western culture.
That assessment was shared by 46% of non-religious Canadians, and in a large admission, by 42% of Muslims who felt their religion cannot be reconciled with the country they live in.
A full 2,000 participants were questioned in the poll, and of them 500 were born outside Canada. The polling took place in 2013 and 2014.
“It’s quite disconcerting that our poll results consistently show about 60% of Canadians see the West and Islamic society as ‘irreconcilable.’ It puts you up against a dead end,” Jack Jedwab, vice-president of the Association for Canadian Studies that commissioned the polls, told the paper.
Jedwab admitted the threat perceived from Islam “is a huge blow to interfaith dialogue.”…
Moshe Akiva says
I am so glad the idiotic Canadian governments brought them in here by the millions. Peace and quiet was just too intolerable any more.
Beagle says
It’s a bit like girls wanting a bad boy for excitement right up until he starts acting badly. The entire West is heavily infiltrated with actual and potential enemies. Yay diversity and multiculturalism.
Shane says
The traitorous left is allied with Islamofascists to destroy Western Civilization and Christianity. It’s time to get rid of these politicians that advocate allowing large numbers of Muslims to immigrate into the West. The gutless politicians who bow down to Islam must go.
Lioness says
The leftist, communist, friend of Fidel Castro, Pierre Trudeau started this multiculturalism insanity, by letting muslims into Canada in the 70’s, and it continued unabated under every administration. So now we have muslims that hate every fiber of this country, and only live here to advance the cause of islamism and jihad.
gravenimage says
It is only the hard left that actually wants to see the destruction of the free West.
Most liberals and leftists swallow the “Kumbaya” idea that everyone in the world is really just like us (only with more cool multicultural “cred”). They cannot conceive of an “immigrant group” that is intent on replacing our own civilized societies with something like brutal and supremacist Shari’ah law.
alyn21 says
When I was growing up Canada was considered a boring country. Thanks to the leftwing nitwits in Ottawa who have been running this country until recently we are no longer boring.
JamesonRocks says
So, Canada now knows the minimum deportation rate…
Peggy says
I have been saying the same thing for a long time. It’s so frustrating when you can’t get this through to so many people. They think that just because they arrive here they are running away from Islam and we should help them.
I always knew that the only reason majority come here is to take over in time just like they took over in Lebanon.
EYESOPEN says
Correct. Just ask Brigette Gabriel about that.
Alissa says
Brigitte Gabriel said that among Arabs there is a saying “First comes Saturday and then comes Sunday” meaning first we kill the Jews(Saturday is their holy day) and then we kill the Christians (Sunday is their holy day).
BC says
The problem is most people do not think about the issues, which is why they elect useless politicians all the time. They only think about their own little bubble and social media just exacerbates that tendency.
Alissa says
Very true. That’s why useless self-serving politicians get away with the irresponsible things they do. We are all complicit…politicians and the electorate for our own destruction.
Shane says
We must label what is happening to the West as “The Immigration Jihad.” Islam is destroying the West from within with the help of traitorous politicians from the left and the right. W. Bush brought the Somalia Muslims into the USA and Obama has increased the number of Muslim immigrants.
katherine says
Only 60% of non-Muslim Canadians ? That’s quite a disappointment – by now I’d expect 90% to know that Islam is anti-democracy, anti-secularism, anti-equality, anti-Christianity, anti-freedom, anti-Darwin and anti everything not associated with Islam – especially free speech and free elections.
mortimer says
Katharine,
That poll is from 2014…just out recently. Ezra Levant says the percentage of aware Canadians is now MUCH higher due to what they saw on TV during the last year.
It’s likely closer to 70% of Canadians who feel Islam is incompatible with Canada now. The rest are cultural Marxists in the Libtard and NDP parties.
Peggy says
It’s taking a very long time to get the word out because the media is our enemy. The only reason we know what’s going on is because we use the internet for information instead of just entertainment.
If we speak to as many people as we can and steer them to sites like this one and Pamela Geller, we will get through to much more and they then can pass the information along.
Islam is like HIV. It takes a long time to get to that point but it will unless we get treatment against it.
Vaccine is a good idea for prevention but that ship has sailed.
petey says
you can thank big brother and hells kitchen and the amazing race for this. The more mind numbing entertainment pushed on us the less people seem to pay attention. The mainstream news not telling us the whole story certainly does not help. and of course there is the politicians who either lie to us or publicly shame those who speak out. And lets not forget the leftards and the fruitcakes who buy into this multicultural fantasy land. I think its pretty much going to take a nuke from Iran in a ship in new York harbor to wake up the west Im afraid
Bamaguje says
“Only 60% of non-Muslim Canadians?” – Katherine.
With the lamestream media, leftist academia and political establishment all on the Muslim side… constantly shilling for Islam – “ISIS has nothing to do with Islam” – this relatively low percentage (60-63%) is understandable.
oldwhiteguy says
Canadians busy proving they are just as dumb as americans.
dumbledoresarmy says
Considering the massive petrodollar-financed dawa-and-corruption programme of Islamic propaganda that has been going on right across all western countries since at least the 1970s, the 60 percent figure – 60 percent of Christian and Jewish Canadians who *despite all of that propaganda* have managed to figure out that Islam is dangerous, should actually be quite encouraging. Indeed, it’s remarkable.
It is worth noting, too, that ‘religious’ non-Muslim Canadians have been better at withstanding or seeing through the pro-Islam propaganda, than the non-religious non-Muslim Canadians.
“63% of Protestants, 62% of Jews and 60% of Catholics felt Islam cannot coexist with Western culture.
That assessment was shared by 46% of non-religious Canadians…”.
Memo to all Canadian jihadwatchers. Sursum corda! You don’t have to work too hard to convince Jews and Christians; you need to focus on getting another 5 to 10 percent of the nonreligious portion of Canada’s population “over the line” into Islamowariness.
Keep on keeping on! Support not only jihadwatch but your own Canadian site Point de bascule, and your own Canadian pro-Israel and anti-Islamisation activist, Ryan Bellerose.
Go Canada!
Michael Copeland says
Show the non-religious what Islam does to atheists – public beheading in Saudi Arabia, hacking to death with machetes while police look on in Bangladesh, beating to death in Indonesia. There is no place for non-believers in Islam.
gravenimage says
Yes—I actually take this comparative level of awareness as a hopeful sign. We do have a long way to go—but I *do* believe progress is being made.
And here’s a recent Rasmussen poll showing that 52% of Americans believe Islam as practiced today encourages violence more than most other religions, and 64% of voters think there is a global conflict in the world today between Western civilization and Islam.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2015/americans_think_islam_needs_to_clean_up_its_act
Stats are even better for Australia: only 15% believe that there is no link between Islam and terrorism.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/vast-majority-of-australians-think-islam-and-terrorism-are-related/
Of course, I m under no illusions that all of these folks are fully Islamo-savvy—but these heartening figures are still a long way from an uncritical embrace of Islam as a “religion of peace”.
Jaladhi says
So why the hell they come to the West and why the Western countries allow these traitors to come in?? Thes people have no good intentions about the country where they seek shelter – such is this ingrateful religion and its followers. Wake up up West!!
Jaladhi says
Polls are very clear – get them out of here before its too late!! They just don’t belong in any non-Muslim country – they should live in Mecca and Medina!!
mortimer says
They arrive and then demand the host countries destroy themselves by adopting discriminatory Sharia.
Jae M says
Absolutely. The freedom of Canada is hanging in the balance. At least we still have Stephen Harper who has put forth some stunning and very politically incorrect speeches that call terrorism what it is without apologies.
Trudeau and the NDP are riding on the votes from Muslims with appeasing multi-culturalism. Trudeau just did a big campaign with letters to all the small cities entitlled. “The Politics of Fear”. In where he gives the same lines that Obama spouts.
The only politics we need to fear are those from leaders that sell out to ideologies that threaten the freedom of our Country.
EYESOPEN says
Jedwab admitted the threat perceived from Islam “is a huge blow to interfaith dialogue.”…
Please warn us in advance of such nuggets, Robert. I almost spit out my iced tea onto my keyboard – again!
Debbie Mattson says
First of all, let’s make sure we all have the lay of the land here. Canada is pluralistic, multicultural society that has raised political correctness to an artform. Always been that way. I am retired now but when I was unemployed and younger I wondered how I might have fared if I renounced my Canadian citizenship, moved to a new Third World or war torn country changed my name and applied to come to Canada. I’m sure I’d done better than I did as a native born citizen. Canadians love diversity, don’t we? It’s all about the newcomer isn’t it? The way I see it, Mr. BO and his islam-arse kissing cronies have an agenda to bring down the US. Here in people-pleasing Canada we just want to teach the world to sing (remember the old coke commercial?) and think that those poor old jihadis aren’t really like that because nobody likes them so we’ll just be their friends. Collectively, we are like women in an abused relationsh.
cs says
It will just get worse, by the day.
Scott says
The question is, will Canada have the courage to lead? To act?
And….what will Canadians do?
We know that in the U.S., nothing will be done on Obama or (heaven forbid), Hillary’s watch…… After all…….he leads with his behind…..
alpha_1 says
I am saddened by what I see of my country, Canada. Canadians are too busy texting on their smart phones to even see what’s happening. I have met the odd Muslim and they seem OK but do I trust them? Absolutely not. Their culture is the most barbaric in the world yet a lot of my fellow Canadians are going to try and save them by bringing them here. I am gobsmacked and sickened by it all.
I’ve lived on this planet for 70 years and have come to the conclusion that the problem with planet earth is people. Animals do fine…..people? Never. I am ashamed of my countrymen and women.
xxxChurch100 says
Dear Alpha-1
It is indeed disheartening , but to be expected , I lived & worked in Banff Alta for a couple of years in the 1970s .. And the Canadian people and culture were lovely ,friendly , welcoming ., what has changed?
The conclusion you draw is curious , a juxtaposition , yet profound ” the problem with planet earth is its human inhabitants ” and as you accurately write , this is exactly where the problem lies .
Why is it so ????
Perhaps what we are seeing played out in the dramatic rise of Islam , worldwide , can afford us the answer …..which is ; man’s heart , mind and soul is completely corrupted .
The ‘ Western / Judaic ‘ , the ‘ right from wrong moral system ‘ which we ( our generation) once took for granted has been abandoned and replaced by something very different , something quite perverse something evil , and this system is now snow balling and gaining speed on the verge of spiralling out of control.
I don’t like what I am seeing and it sounds like you don’t either !
My considered view is ;
The God of the Bible , the Creator of all , who revealed Himself to us in Jesus, is now being challenged by an enemy .This is the whole thrust ,the whole narrative of the Bible .
The enemies challenge comes from the Allah of the Qur’an through his supposed prophet Mohammed and is becoming more desperate , more cunning …… As you point out , people too busy texting to even notice the deception . Our politicians don ‘t even acknowledge that a war has been declared by Islam on the western way of life , free speech , everything we hold to … In their sights by a death cult.
Hope my 2 cents worth might shed some light ,
God Bless ….. you can’t even say that now without the fear of prosecution .
So ….
God Help Us !!! We need it !
Michael Copeland says
“We are at war” (quote from 7/7 bomber).
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6716-we-are-at-war
Richie says
Muslims know that any country with socialism policies will give them money and housing- that is why they invade the west. The solution is simple= stop letting Muslims flood into the west, and stop giving them money
BC says
We not only hand out money when they arrive here we subsidise their governments with aid. So we are not only paying for their poor and hungry yearning to be free (sorry yearning to export Sharia) to come to the West we are paying them twice over by taking on their surplus population
noellsq says
In the first place you cannot trust or believe them ,therefore swearing in and stating they would be loyal to the government is out. I am sorry to say that the west will be Sharia in a few years. Think about it, we are too civilized to do the right thing and exterminate all radicals therefore we have lost the war and we all will follow Sharia law soon.
Michael Copeland says
The Times Square would-be mass jihad killer, Faisal Shahzad, was a naturalized US citizen from Pakistan. When the judge reminded him that he had sworn the Oath of Allegiance he replied:
“I sweared, but I did not mean it”.
The use of taqiyya means muslims cannot be trusted.
occupant 9 says
Unfortunately true. It could put us in a very awkward position, if we allow it. It is what the Muslims are counting on; that we’d be so pretzel paralyzed by our own morality to prevent us from seeking the truth about Islam.
But, knowing that Islam permits or even requires deception, we are obligated to understand any oath given by a Muslim to be non-binding upon him. In other words, this would be an agreement made in bad faith, and bad faith towards kafirs is exactly what Islam promises.
Jack Diamond says
Important to emphasize, as Robert does, immigration and da’wa as part of and preparation for jihad and that this is doctrinal. Except for temporary reasons, such as medical treatment, education, doing business…Muslims individually are not to reside in the lands of kufr. It is haram. Collectively it is different and for one recognized purpose only, in imitation of the first Hijra-conquest in Medina which led to an Islamic State under Islamic law. “Migration will continue until the sun rises in the west. Hijrah will not be stopped until repentance is cut off and repentance will not be cut off until the sun rises in the west.” (Abu Da’wad Hadith 3453). “O people immigrate holding onto Islam for Hijra is to continue as long as Jihad continues.” (kenz al-Umal 46260). “Those who believed and emigrated and strove hard and fought in Allah’s Cause with their wealth and their lives are far higher in degree with Allah.” (Q 9:20).
In imitation of Muhammad and the first hijra, Muslims are obligated by Islam to replace the ideals and principles of the kuffar with those of Islam, and ultimately the governance. It cannot be otherwise. What is there to reconcile?
Galen Muhammad says
To quote Robert Spencer as if he has ANY validity, casts a storm of darkness and doubt on any statement you make on this topic. You’d do better by disassociating yourself from such a paid Islamaphobe.
I also advise that you learn the meaning of those Arabic and Islamic words you’ve used in you post.
I don’t know ONE Muslim who lives by himself where there are no other Muslims. Do you?
Jack Diamond says
“don’t know ONE Muslim who lives by himself where there are no other Muslims. Do you?” Proving the point? Al wala wal al baraa (Allegiance and Rejection, Loyalty and Enmity) segregates Muslims from non-Muslims. Muhammad is quoted saying “I am innocent or free of every Muslim that lives amongst the Pagans/non-Muslims” and “whosoever aggregates with non-Muslims and lives with them, he is one of them” echoing sura 58:22 and 5:51 (Abu Da’wad 2645 and 2789). The only exception to this is in the collective migration called Hijrah, which must emulate the first Hijrah and its result in Medina. Establishing the religion of Allah. This is not only doctrine it is doctrine in great detail. L’htiraz, cautious preparation; Tamkeen, consolidation; ta’leef al qulub, to make the kaffir favorable to Islam and muslims, infiltration; l’dad, preparation including multiplication of numbers to attain a majority. Sure, Muslims when weak and outnumbered are not expected to act as when they are numerous or attain the upper hand. When they have the upper hand how do they behave? I speak of Muslims collectively not as individuals because Islam is not a creed respecting individual rights and freedoms. Perhaps you know of another Islam?
Now what Islamic words would you like to discuss?
Galen Muhammad says
Proves what point, “genius“??
There are Muslims living right here, in the USA, who happily abide by US law and are not trying to change any just laws! Stop falling for manufactured lies spewed by paid Islamaphobes.
Arabic (not Islamic) words, like taqiyya have been redefined by Islamaphobes to mean “lying to spread Islam” — a non-existing concept in Islam.
It’s obvious that you don’t understand the Hadith you quoted. Prophet Muhammad (saw), himself and the Muslims that left Mecca with him, lived amongst the Jews in Yathrib (now Medina) until he and the Muslims returned to Mecca.
I’ll let you research that to get your facts straightened out…. There’s much you don’t know about Islam….and your statements bare witness to that fact!
Jack Diamond says
Muhammad planned the destruction of the Jews and Quraish and their domination by Islam, that was the meaning of his pact with the Arab Aws and Khazraj of “blood and destruction.” And that is what happened. He was the beginning of the end of Jewish life in Arabia. Who said “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim”? Before that he made the status of the Jews the basis for dhimmitude, the template for the inferior subjugated status of non-Muslims under Islam. Islamic scholars understand the meaning of that first Hijra to be the establishing of the Islamic State and the model for the spread of Islam over the world. They declare that Hijra to be a jihad. Not me.
I clearly said Muslims in America were a small minority and acted accordingly. That does not prevent the push push push for shari’a in small things or the attempt to stop criticism of Islam (meaning knowledge of Islam) by criminalizing it as hate speech, while the Muslim Brotherhood dominates mosques and public discourse and would-be jihadis emerge almost daily from the sea of “happy” American Muslim communities. Why?
Where the Muslim population is truly large the behavior is accordingly more aggressive, more violent, more intimidating, more demanding. Not less.
The collective behavior of Muslims follows a well-worn pattern over 14 centuries. It can’t be otherwise. “the whole earth has been declared unto me a mosque”(Sahih Muslim b4 n1062); “the (only) religion before Allah is Islam” (Q 3:19); “if anyone (even) desires a religion other than Islam it will never be accepted of him” (Q 3:85); “you will not find any people who believe in Allah or the Last Day loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger even though they may be their fathers, sons, brothers or kindred.” (Q 58:22); “fight–qital, kill, slaughter–those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden nor acknowledge the religion of truth (Islam) even if People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Q 9:29).
gravenimage says
To Jack Diamond, you are quite knowledgeable about Islam. That “Galen Muhammad” would single out your comments to try to delegitimalize opposition to Jihad just shows how desperate he is.
I always look forward to reading your posts.
Jack Diamond says
Thank you graven. I always look forward to yours as well. I just try to remember some of what I’ve learned from those who are truly learned about Islam, including Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald here, the true scholars and historians of Islam they’ve pointed to, and the irreplaceable witnesses to Islam, its victims, and the ex-Muslim insiders who’ve had so much to tell us about what is truth.
voegelinian says
Galen Muhammad is technically correct about taqiyya — but it’s a distinction effectively without a difference. So, yes, we can say that taqiyya is deceit not directly to “spread Islam” — but rather to defend Islam against “enemies”. And what are these “enemies” doing that needs to be “defended” against? Why, those enemies are preventing Muslims from spreading Islam! Thus once again we see, here in encapsulated form, the reverse bully formula of Islam: Muslims aggress; the non-Muslim defends himself from the Muslim; the Muslim labels the non-Muslim’s defensive action as an “offense” against Islam which must be defended against. In our current era, this is playing out in an elaborately complex and diverse way, invovling the mass migration of Muslims into the Camp of the Enemy (the Dar-al-Harb which in this context = the West), coupled with the Islamic precept that any individual or society that refuses to submit to Allah and His Prophet is, ipso facto, committing a casus belli (a declaration of war) against Islam — against which, again, in the Orwellian, Bizarro World, Allah-in -Wonderland logic of Islamic fanaticism, Muslims must “defend” themselves to protect Islam.
Jack Diamond says
Re: Voegelinian. This is exactly right. As the Shiekh I quoted down this thread says, “the kaffir is an enemy of Allah forever” and he is explicit this includes every “Jew, Christian or other person who does not enter Islam.” Since all we non-Muslims are renegades (all humans are born Muslim and thus Allah has rights over them) and in rebellion, the aggression is always our doing, first. Refusing the Call to Islam has always been regarded as an act of war against Islam meriting “self defense”–remembering the Three Choices of the Islamic invasions, Two Choices for Pagans (and Two Choices for Christians after the return of Isa). The Islamic scholar Aga Mahdi Puya says: “waging war against Allah and his Prophet means hostility against his chosen representatives, or deviation from his laws by overstepping the boundaries laid down by Him…or attempts to undermine the cause of Islam and the overall interests of the Muslims.” This is akin to Ibn Kathir on Qur’an 8:39 “Fight them until there is no more Fitnah (trial in religion) & the religion will be for Allah alone (so that there is no more ‘Kufr’, disbelief)”. These are exceedingly broad definitions for what requires forceful “self defense” and of who are Allah’s (and therefore every Muslim’s) enemy. If Muslims are among the kaffir they are amongst enemies by definition and must guard themselves accordingly.
Just as suicide is haram but suicide to kill for the cause of Allah is halal, so lying (“deliberate ambiguity”) is haram but in serving the cause of Allah (defending, protecting Islam) it is halal. Muslims added more and worse cartoons to the Danish cartoons of Muhammad to create a furor in dar al Islam. How can a Muslim ever profane Muhammad? There was in fact a fatwa endorsing an insult to Muhammad if done in takiyya, for a better reason. Allah in Wonderland for sure.
gravenimage says
The absurdly self-styled “Galen Muhammad” wrote, in reply to Jack Diamond:
To quote Robert Spencer as if he has ANY validity, casts a storm of darkness and doubt on any statement you make on this topic. You’d do better by disassociating yourself from such a paid Islamaphobe.
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The idea that Robert Spencer’s status as a best-selling author somehow invalidates his work is just bizarre. Note, moreover, that “Galen Muhammad” does not actually challenge anything specific that Robert Spencer has said, This is, in fact, quite typical from Muslims.
And “Islamophobe” is a term made up by CAIR. Calling drawing attention to Islam’s oppression and violence as “Islamophobic” is the same as calling Churchill’s warnings about the Nazis “Fascistophobic”.
More:
I also advise that you learn the meaning of those Arabic and Islamic words you’ve used in you post.
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Again, “Galen Muhammad” does not actually says how Jack Diamond is supposed to be using these words incorrectly, nor does he counter the Qur’anic quote and Hadith that Jack cited.
More:
I don’t know ONE Muslim who lives by himself where there are no other Muslims. Do you?
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And how is this mitigating? Just more proof that Muslims seek to “Islamoform” the lands they make Hijira to.
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Proves what point, “genius“??
There are Muslims living right here, in the USA, who happily abide by US law and are not trying to change any just laws! Stop falling for manufactured lies spewed by paid Islamaphobes.
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Any “just” laws—this means, any laws that do not contradict the horror of Shari’ah law.
The fact is that *81%* of Muslims in America either agree or strongly agree that Shari’ah should be imposed in all Muslim-majority nations—only 3% strongly disagree.
More:
Arabic (not Islamic) words, like taqiyya have been redefined by Islamaphobes to mean “lying to spread Islam” — a non-existing concept in Islam.
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What rot—this was used by the “Prophet” himself. And it is not just Taqiyya, but a whole slew of other Islamic concepts such as Maruna, Darura, and Kitman. Lying to Infidels is not a minor concept in Islam—it is quite intrinsic to the creed.
The fact is that the denial that Taqiyya is a Muslim concept is *itself* an example of Taqiyya in action.
More:
It’s obvious that you don’t understand the Hadith you quoted. Prophet Muhammad (saw), himself and the Muslims that left Mecca with him, lived amongst the Jews in Yathrib (now Medina) until he and the Muslims returned to Mecca.
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“Lived amongst the Jews”—now *that* is grimly laughable. What “Galen Muhammad” will not tell you is that the “Prophet” almost immediately began exiling Jewish tribes from Medina, many of which he later enslaved and massacred. Perhaps the most infamous is the genocide of the male members of the Banu Qurayza tribe—up to 900 men and boys. He then enslaved the women and children.
By the end of his career, he was quoted in a Hadith authenticated by Sahih Muslim as saying: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims”.
Not exactly the peaceful coexistence “Galen Muhammad” is trying to imply…
More:
I’ll let you research that to get your facts straightened out…. There’s much you don’t know about Islam….and your statements bare (sic) witness to that fact!
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What rot. Will “Glen Muhammad” be able to rationally address any of the above? I wouldn’t count on it…
Michael Copeland says
The 42% of muslims and the 65% of no-muslims share the view of the European Court of Human Rights (Welfare Party case, 2003). The judges found that “Sharia is incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy”.
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6641-islam-is-incompatible-with-democracy
Galen Muhammad says
LOL
“The judges have found…..” JOKE!!
And how ignorant are they on the same topic to make such a foolish decision? They’re as clueless to the true meaning of Islamic and Arabic words as those making anti-Islamic/anti-Muslim statements on this blog!
How is praying 5 times a day, for example “incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy”??!!
Do you even understand how “The way” is even decided in the different Islamic countries and how this differs from country to country? Of course you don’t, or you and your ilk wouldn’t make such foolish statements!!
Go to Islamic sources to do legitimate research on Islam; avoid the Islamaphobic ones….!
mach37 says
If you want infidels to understand the true meaning of Islamic words, then translate them into English, and use the translations instead the Islamic/Arabic words. It is driving me up the wall that Robert Spencer goes along with using Arabic words in his writings.
katherine says
Tell the bugger this : we’ve nothing against his praying 10 times a day but do Muslims have to do it at 130 decibels starting at 6:00 am ? Do they have ANY consideration whatsoever for 95% of the local population who are not obliged to kiss the ground on the loudhailer’s say-so ?
Muslims’ arrogant anti-social behavior doesn’t require any philosophical calisthenics to prove. There isn’t any allowance in their primitive mindset to think of the needs of babies, the infirm or the requirements of different body clocks – anyone wishing to be regimented would have joined the army anyway.
Start inundating your local authorities to stop this sonic trespass on our homes and our minds – that’s right : it’s a form of not-so-subtle brainwashing to accept THEIR culture as the norm. There must be by-laws to regulate this form of religious intrusion. Perhaps even ask the Israeli authorities for advice on this matter !
Galen Muhammad says
mach37:
Just so you’ll know….an infidel is one who does not believe in God.
Galen Muhammad says
mach37:
It’s part of his deception (i.e., using Arabic words in his lies & half-truths).
He uses Arabic/Islamic words, but he generally assigns his own definitions (not Islamic ones) to said words.
I cannot truthfully deny it: It’s obviously an effective rouse. Look at the number of people he and his ilk are deceiving with it…..!
voegelinian says
There are many customs that are part-and-parcel of Islam which by themselves are perfectly fine and harmonizable with any free society. The problem is that everything in Islam is connected to everything else, in a warp-and-woof of atexture of a tight weave, like a Persian carpet. If one is looking too minutely at the fibers one by one of this carpet or tapestry, or if one limits one’s focus to some aesthetically pretty, isolated design thereof, one may find no problem; but when one steps back to survey the whole tapestry (the texts of the Sunna, the bloody history, the current news, and testimonies of ex-Muslims and non-Muslim victims), one no longer sees a pretty picture but rather the alarming & dreadful tableau of a veritable War against all Mankind which Muhammad declared and all his minions since dedicate themselves to — by hook (violence) or by crook (stealth).
Westman says
Galen: “Do you even understand how “The way” is even decided in the different Islamic countries and how this differs from country to country?”
That is a problem isn’t it? Which country’s Islam is right version Galen? Saudi Arabia? Egypt? UAE? Iran? Pakistan? Mayasia? Indonesia?
Why is there too little consistency? Why do the adherents of “The Religion Of Peace” have a historical and current problem of discord and warring with each other? Why is Pakistan no longer called India? Same race as Indians but couldn’t live with them because Islam has no fealty?
Frankly, it isn’t necessary to get into the minute details to realize that Islam has not lived up to its claims. The fruits are descriptive enough. Maybe in time, like Christianity, they will get past the warring, beheading, etc, stage?
Saudi Arabia controls the Kabba. Does Allah allow them to control the Hajj because they have the favored version of Sharia(beheading and the like), or maybe Allah doesn’t really care? Do Imams where you live have plans, like Iran, to “peacefully” wrestle control of the Kabba and eliminate the Jews?
bernie says
Galen: the problem isn’t the basic “5 pillars of Islam”: ie. saying the shahada; praying 5 times a day; fasting during Ramadan; giving zakat (charity); or going on the hajj (thew pilgrimmage to Mecca).
The problem is those Muslims, such as Anjem Choudary, who believe that the Sharia must include forcing non-Muslims to pay an oppressive jizyah (which means paying 3-4 times more in taxes than a non-Muslim, simply due to one’s religious faith; even if one takes into account exemptions from serving in a Muslim army or paying Islamic zakat, it’s still triple or quadruple the rate). Or, non-Muslims (inclduing Jews and Christians) aren’t allowed to build or repair new synagogues or churches. they have to tolerate discriminatory treatment from Muslims in just about every way, plus they aren’t allowed to complain about it. As well, Muslims are free to proselytize Islam, but it’s a crime to proselytize Christianity or any other non-Muslims faith; moreover, if a Muslim converts to another faith (even to the Christian or Jewish faiths), or becomes openly atheist or agnostic, there is the death penalty for that.
Just look at all the violence, rapes, kidnappings, forced conversions and so on against non-Muslim minorities in countries such as Egypt, Pakistan and ISIS-occupied parts of Iraq, and sometimes even in Turkey and Indonesia.
Galen Muhammad says
bernie:
As I stated before, sharia is interpreted differently from country to country. Some of them have made shari’a their country’s laws. It’s doubtful that when the US reaches 50% Muslims that we’ll demand such a thing. I don’t know ANY Muslims that seek that now! Stop with the paranoid generalizations.
I’m not defending those who misinterpret the Holy Qur’an for personal and/or political gain.
Call them out as you see fit.
Forced conversion (from the Islamic perspective) is TOTALLY & UTTERLY UN-ISLAMIC!!
noellsq says
I am sorry but i do believe you. I am reading the Quran which is translated into english and approved by a university in Saudi Arabia. As a person who recognizes his religion as being the follower of the Quran you are given permission to lie to non muslims. But to say that CAIR is not a terrorist group because the US government run by idiots says so is grossly wrong. It has been proven that CAIR lies and cheats . IRAN TAKEN OFF LIST WITH CUBA come on our Democrat country is full of liberal traitors and at the top is the POTUS. In less than 8 years he has brought our country to be a second rate country.
Jack Diamond says
“one of the basic principles of belief in Islam is that we must believe that every Jew, Christian or other person who does not enter Islam is a kafir… and regarded as enemies of Allah, His Messenger and the believers and that they are people of Hell.”
–Sheikh Muhammad Salih Al-Munajjid, Islamqa.com
“Islamic faith is based on the separation of Muslim and kafir and that the kafir is an enemy of Allah forever and will be until he embraces Islam discarding his kufr Allah has forbidden the believers from pleading any allegiance to the kuffar or showing any affection even if they were their fathers, brothers, children, kindred or their spouses as stated in sura 58:22.”
“One of the basic principles of belief in Islam, one which all the Muslims are agreed (ijmaa’) is that there is no true religion on the face of the earth apart from Islam. It is the final religion which abrogates all religions and laws before it. There is no religion on earth according to which Allah is to be worshipped apart from Islam. “Whosoever seeks a religion other than Islam it will never be accepted of him.” (3:85). After the coming of Muhammad, Islam means what he brought, not any other religion…one of the basic principles of belief in Islam is that the Book of Allah, the Holy Qur’an, is the last of the Books to be revealed from the Lord of the Worlds. It abrogates all the Books that came before it. So there is no longer any revealed Book according to which Allah is to be worshipped apart from the Quran.”
That is the meaning of Infidel, not someone who does not believe in God.
gravenimage says
More crap from “Galen Muhammad”, this time in reply to Michael Copeland:
LOL
“The judges have found…..” JOKE!!
And how ignorant are they on the same topic to make such a foolish decision? They’re as clueless to the true meaning of Islamic and Arabic words as those making anti-Islamic/anti-Muslim statements on this blog!
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The idea that one must be fluent in ancient Arabic—I doubt “Galen Muhammad” himself is—in order to grasp the oppressive horror of Shari’ah is like saying that no on can have an opinion on democracy unless one is fluent in ancient Greek.
Moreover, it is a central tenet of dhimmitude that Infidels not be permitted to speak critically about any aspect of Islam—that is what this Mohammedan is objecting to here.
How dare any Kuffar mention democracy and human rights when it comes to Islamic law?
Notice that he considers civilized Western law a “joke”.
More:
How is praying 5 times a day, for example “incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy”??!!
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The idea that all Shari’ah entails is prayer is utterly absurd. There are a handful of other elements that are unobjectionable and of no concern to Infidels—so long as they are not coerced—such as Wudu, fasting during Ramadan, or going on the Hadj.
But even the less gaudy elements of Shari’ah are deeply disturbing—institutionalized inferiority of women and non-Muslims, most notably.
It moves on from there to horrors such as the imposition of Jizya on Infidels, enslaving non-Muslims, pedophilic child “marriage”, floggings, beheadings, amputation for petty theft and the stoning of rape victims.
More:
Do you even understand how “The way” is even decided in the different Islamic countries and how this differs from country to country? Of course you don’t, or you and your ilk wouldn’t make such foolish statements!!
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Not really. Muslim nations may—largely under Western pressure—have foregone some of the more vicious tenets of Shari’ah such as stonings, but the interpretation does not actually vary.
And it is actually notable how *consistent* Shari’ah is: as an example, societies as vastly different in other ways as Afghanistan, Iran, Aceh in Indonesia, the Islamic State, Somalia, Brunei, and northern Nigeria all enshrine stoning.
It is *also* notable that as soon as a society Islamizes, the first thing they do is impose harsher Shari’ah law. We are seeing this all over the world at this point.
More:
Go to Islamic sources to do legitimate research on Islam; avoid the Islamaphobic ones….!
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“Galen Muhammad” is, of course, correct. All one has to do is go to Islamic sources—the Qur’an, the Hadith, the Sira, the model of Muhammed, Al Azhar University, and the words of pious Muslim clerics to confirm how savage Shari’ah law is…
More, in reply to mach37:
Just so you’ll know….an infidel is one who does not believe in God.
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Pious Muslims do indeed consider non-Muslims, including the “People of the Book” (Jews and Christians) to be Kuffar or Infidels.
More:
It’s part of his deception (i.e., using Arabic words in his lies & half-truths).
He uses Arabic/Islamic words, but he generally assigns his own definitions (not Islamic ones) to said words.
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He could spell out his own specific correctives here—but of course he does not. His only purpose here is to try to cast general doubt on opponents of Jihad and Shari’ah.
More:
I cannot truthfully deny it: It’s obviously an effective rouse (sic). Look at the number of people he and his ilk are deceiving with it…..!
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More of the same—examples, please?
Yet more, in reply to Bernie:
As I stated before, sharia is interpreted differently from country to country. Some of them have made shari’a their country’s laws. It’s doubtful that when the US reaches 50% Muslims that we’ll demand such a thing. I don’t know ANY Muslims that seek that now! Stop with the paranoid generalizations.
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Note that “Galen Muhammad” doesn’t say why this is exactly the case in places like Nigeria, where Muslim have imposed Shari’ah in the states where they hold majorities, and are attempting to impose it country-wide.
He also does not note that over 80% of Muslims in the US do indeed believe that Shari’ah should be imposed in all Muslim-majority countries.
And note that he says *when*, not if, the US reaches 50% Muslims.
And note *this* phrasing:
“I don’t know ANY Muslims that seek that now”—this does not mean that Muslims having reached a majority won’t demand Shari’ah law *then*. Very sly.
More:
I’m not defending those who misinterpret the Holy Qur’an for personal and/or political gain.
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What rot. Brutal Shari’ah law is very much on the model of the Qur’an, the Hadith, the Sira, and the model of Muhammed. And the imposition of this unjust system is entirely on the basis of Islam.
More:
Forced conversion (from the Islamic perspective) is TOTALLY & UTTERLY UN-ISLAMIC!!
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“Galen Muhammad” is referring to Qur’an 2:256 : “Let there be no compulsion in religion”.
But he will not tell you that this is an abrogated verse.
The fact is that Muslims are commanded to fight unbelievers until they are either dead, converted to Islam, or in a permanent state of subjugation under Muslim domination. Allowing people of other faiths to live and worship independently of Islamic rule is not an option if Muslims are in a position of power.
Qur’an 8:39: “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.”
Qur’an 9:29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Suras 9 and 5 are the last “revelations” that Muhammad handed down—hence abrogating what came before, including that verse about “no compulsion in religion”.
mach37 says
It will come to pass, hopefully, that Islam will be declared not a religion worthy of respect by the Free World, and followers of the “religion” will be denied travel outside of the countries that are ruled by shariah law. Followers of Islam should be deported to the Middle Eastern countries they came from. Because of the practice of lying about their religion, known as “taqiyya,” those who claim to have converted from Islam should not be believed, and deported as well. This is harsh, but the freedom of humanity depends on it.
Galen Muhammad says
“Then why are they in Canada? To emigrate in the cause of Allah, as Muhammad did from Mecca to Medina, in order to bring Islam to a new land. They came to Canada to bring Sharia there.”
The entire premise of the above statement is a bold-faced lie!!
I can guarantee you that there was no balanced poll that asked these so-called Muslims if they’d moved for an opportunity to raise their families and a better environment, business opportunity, better schooling, etc.
Typical Robert Spencer spin.
Joseph says
Islam is a political agenda!!!! Is this true Mr. Galen Muhammad? YES OR NO??????
You are the one who is telling a lie.
Galen Muhammad says
Joseph:
You’re accusing me of something of which you lack evidence.
And now, you’re asking me a basic question about the religion, Islam??!!
Where’s your statement about the lies and half-truths pimped and promoted by Robert Spencer and his band of paid Islamaphobes? They most certainly are the one guilty of lying on said topic!
And, by all appearances, they’re deceiving quite a few people…..!
Joseph says
AND YOU FAIL TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, POLITICAL AGENDA Y/N>
You are the one deceived.
Your shit don’t fly here.
Galen Muhammad says
Joseph:
I answered your question. Now….I have doubts that you’re reading my replies….
I’ll put it in quotations and underline the direct answer for you….since you come off as being lazy:
“And now, you’re asking me a basic question about the religion, Islam??!!“
Nowhere have I EVER stated, “the political agenda….. and named my religion, Islam, as such!!
Joseph says
If you don’t know Islam is political then YOU are very ignorant about your “so called” religion of piss, oh I mean peace, NO, I had it right the first time.
FredvanH says
Anyone who has sufficient street knowledge of the muslim kind knows they’re viscerally incompatible with the west. Our prisons are filled to brimming with them, our streets are unsafe because of them, our governments are taxing us to the hilt so they can continue throwing money at them (not doing so would immediately result in anarchy and civil war). Criminal, violent, seditious, parasitic. You should have never been allowed to infiltrate our societies.
Galen Muhammad says
Your statement is proof, in itself, that you lack scholarship on the topic.
The prisons have people of many different religions in them. Have you, personally, surveyed said inmates to learn when they converted to their chosen religion?
Would you lump all those of other faiths (and their respective religions) into the same degrading categories? If not, then you summation is greatly flawed and only proves your lack of scholarship and foolheartedness to even engage in such a dialog.
Are you a Babylonian….? You sure are babbling!
Westman says
I’ll give you that, Galen.
Most Muslims come to the West for economic improvement. They even go to the UAE and get mistreated for the same reason.
Of course, you do remember that over 95% of the Austrailian Jihadists were on the dole before joining up with ISIS? Not all that are coming intend to work for that better life.
And what is wrong with the Muslim countries from which they immigrate? What made those countries such economic sinkholes? Why can’t Muslims get along with each other there? And if they can’t, what should make us think they won’t bring that discord here?
And will they actually assimilate or, “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.” – Qur’an (5:51)
“..Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah..” Qur’an (3:28)
Someone pointed out that Muslims are not to take unbelivers as friends and you said they were LIARS.
Here are multiple translations of Qur’an (3:28):
Sahih International
Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.
Muhsin Khan
Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allah is the final return.
Pickthall
Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.
Yusuf Ali
Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
Dr. Ghali
The believers should not take to themselves the disbelievers for constant patrons, apart from (i.e. rather than) the believers; and he who performs that, (then) he has nothing (to look to) from Allah, excepting that you may protect yourselves against them (in manner) of protection. And Allah bids you beware Himself; and to Allah is the Destiny.
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Multiple translations of Qu’ran (53:29):
Sahih International
So turn away from whoever turns his back on Our message and desires not except the worldly life.
Muhsin Khan
Therefore withdraw (O Muhammad SAW) from him who turns away from Our Reminder (this Quran) and desires nothing but the life of this world.
Pickthall
Then withdraw (O Muhammad) from him who fleeth from Our remembrance and desireth but the life of the world.
Yusuf Ali
Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world.
Shakir
Therefore turn aside from him who turns his back upon Our reminder and does not desire anything but this world’s life.
Dr. Ghali
So veer away from him who turns back from Our Remembrance and is not willing (to seek anything) except the present life (Literally: the lowly life, i.e., the life of this world).
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So which of these Quranic verse translations is a lie?
Galen Muhammad says
Thanks!
Interesting you mentioned the UAE. Those jokas threw CAIR under the bus misnaming them as a terrorist organization when the US does NOT see them as such!
On the verse of “friendship“, if given the option of either one or the other, choose your brother over another. That makes sense to me. In the meantime, I have Christian family members, friends, associates, co-workers. They have an excellent to good rapport with me and I with them.
At no point in time, did I claim or imply that there were any lies in the Holy Qur’an. People are merely misinterpreting it.
“See?? Mooslims can’t be friends with Christians or Joos…..!” Written nowhere in the Holy Qur’an or Hadith
Joseph says
@ Galen Muhammad
Then why don’t you read about the REAL life/history of JESUS CHRIST in the bible?
Start with the book of John.
What is the matter?? Can’t Muslims own a Bible?
What is the matter?? Afraid to know the truth???
Truth is, JESUS CHRIST died and rose from the dead for you too.
Truth is, JESUS CHRIST is the way, truth and the light.
Truth is, JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY was to heaven.
Truth is, your Qur’an is a bad rip-off of the Bible.
Galen, sad fact is you can’t get into heaven by “works” or by following Islam.
Galen Muhammad says
Joseph:
And there you go…..
Why are you assuming I know nothing about the Bible. Guess what? I have a Bible or 2 at home. Dude….I was a Christian for the 1st 27 years of my life!
Stop making assumptions based on your experiences and others’ pseudo-research.
The Christian theology you posted is well known by me. The origin of the Holy Qur’an had no connection with your Bible….and I have no qualms with disappointing you on your fallacy.
Faith with out works is what……??!!
gravenimage says
Yet more from “Galen Muhammad”:
“Then why are they in Canada? To emigrate in the cause of Allah, as Muhammad did from Mecca to Medina, in order to bring Islam to a new land. They came to Canada to bring Sharia there.”
The entire premise of the above statement is a bold-faced lie!!
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Not at all. The founder of CAIR said, “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant”.
This is mainstream Islam. Whenever the Muslim population rises, Muslims being waging violent Jihad—this is already happening in the US, where the Muslin population is still under 2%–and clamoring for Shari’ah.
And “Galen Muhammad’s” claim that prison Da’wa is not widespread is just laughable. Violent felons present a perfect target group for conversion to violent Islam, and weaker prisoners can often simply be coerced into “reverting”.
Here’s just one such story:
“UK: Prison inmates bullied into converting to Islam”
http://news.sky.com/story/1156989/inmates-bullied-into-converting-to-islam
Galen Muhammad says
mach37:
Learn the actual definition of “taqiyya“…..
It doesn’t mean what you think it means…..!!
Joseph says
@ Galen Muhammad
Your funny, taqiyya on what taqiyya means.
You have been listening to so much crap your head is full of shit
Galen Muhammad says
And your vocabulary must have reached its limits with your foul language.
I did research to learn this word, taqiyya. When I found out what it really meant, I laughed and saw the evil genius of Islamaphobes and their deception.
Westman says
Galen,
Actually Taqiyya does mean about Sunni Islam what we think it means even if it is a Shia’a word.
Rejecting the term because it is of Shia’a origin is like saying Automobile does not mean the same as Wagen in German just because they are in two different languages. Sunni and Shia’a each have their own versions.
Galen, try these Sunni words. We can use them if Taqiyya is too much: idtirar, ḥiya, and taʿrīḍ. They mean about the same thing as Taqiyya and Kitman and are used in similar circumstances.
Galen Muhammad says
LOL
I’m not rejecting the term. I’m stating the facts about the term.
I reject its necessity. If we, as Muslims, followed the instructions given to us, we wouldn’t be divided into sects in the first place! Then there would be no “majority sect persecuting a minority sect” and they minority sect wouldn’t find the need to employ such a social tactic (taqiyya) to hide their sect.
Perhaps you, too, are reading into my posts. I belong to NO sect.
I am Muslim. Period.
I pray to God that I’m at least obedient in that area….!
Joseph says
@ Galen Muhammad
“I pray to God that I’m at least obedient in that area….!”
Your “god”(SATAN) is spelled with a small “g”.
Muslims deny the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit)
Muslims deny the divinity of JESUS CHRIST as the Son of GOD the FATHER
Since you deny JESUS CHRIST he will deny you when you stand before him at judgement and cast you into hell.
Most Muslims expect to go there anyways so this is no surprise to you.
On the good side for you is that there is no heating bill, it’s free.
Jack Diamond says
Muda’rat is the sunni term for concealment and deception based upon Muhammad saying “war is deception” and “we must deal with our enemies with smiles on our faces and curses in our hearts” (Bukhari 5780). Kafirs are one category muda’rat can target. “let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers except by way of precaution that ye may guard yourselves from them. (Q 3:28). Tasfir Ibn Kathir comments “(unless you indeed fear a danger from them) meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.”
Showing friendship outwardly but not inwardly, inwardly hating them, is deception. This lying and concealment is doctrinal and acted out constantly.
voegelinian says
Some more terms from a handy site:
Taqiyya (Shia) or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam.
Kitman: deceit by omission.
Tawriya: deceit by ambiguity.
Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not having to observe all the tenets of Sharia).
Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden).
And my favorite:
Muruna: the temporary suspension of Sharia in order that Muslim immigrants appear “moderate.”
http://islamexposed.org/multimedia-map/a-primer-on-islamic-deceit-taqiyya-kitman-tawriya-muruna-etc/
voegelinian says
P.S.:
This Google search page has a few old articles on Jihad Watch about the amusing-if-it-weren’t-so-deadly phenomenon in Islamic culture of “taqiyya about taqiyya” —
https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=&as_epq=taqiyya+about+taqiyya&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jihadwatch.org%2F&as_occt=any&safe=images&tbs=&as_filetype=&as_rights=&gws_rd=ssl
gravenimage says
Yes, Voeg—Muslims with words for lying are rather the same as the Inuit with so many words for snow…
FredvanH says
…And the remaining 58% are practicing taqqiya.
Galen Muhammad says
FredvanH:
Based on the REAL definition of “taqiyya, you’re claiming that 58% of Canadian Muslims are Shia Muslims? That really doesn’t make any sense…..!!
You do realize that 58% would be the majority and Shia Muslims only hide their sect when they are being persecuted (generally by Sunni Muslims in the middle east region) because of their sect. They don’t, however, hide their religion.
As I informed mach37, it appears that you clearly don’t know the true meaning of taqiyya. Take a look at this video. It should dispell a few lies you’ve learned about Islam and some non-Islamic Arabic terms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz1GeyWuC18
Darren says
The most telling thing about your religion and culture, is every muslim country isn’t a place I would even want to visit. Not because I am an ignorant bigot, but because of how they treat non muslims, women, ect. Take Saudi Arabia for instance, also living under sharia law would be an absolute nightmare. Also there was nothing noble or uplifting about the founder of your religion. What do you think about the life of your prophet? Do you think this man is perfect and ideal, or even a role model for society?
noellsq says
I feel that this guy is interesting as a person who has skimmed thru the Quran I feel that Muslims can only live with Muslims. Their faith is a religion and a way of life which does not coincide with Western values. Slavery,rape,lying to a non muslim,are all excepted.
Westman says
Again, Galen, try these Sunni words. We can use them if Taqiyya is too much: idtirar, ḥiya, and taʿrīḍ. They mean about the same thing as Taqiyya and Kitman and are used in similar circumstances.
Dave J says
When the Barbarians appear at the gates you do not invite them in for tea and give them presents, unless you want to commit collective suicide.
alyn21 says
So if 42% of muslims are willing to admit out loud that Islam is not compatible with Canadian values then how many more actually do feel that way that are not admitting to it ?
Uncle Vladdi says
I’m Canadian and as such I find Harper’s muslim-pandering treason very disturbing.
Canada’s allegedly “conservative” PM Stephen Harper bought into the trojan horse already, granting the Ismaeli Assassin cult chief, the Aga Khan, honourary Canadian citizenship, $30 million tax dollars to help build a huge mega “tolerance” mosque outside Toronto, and granted his cult the former Canadian War Museum (how apropos!) lands in the middle of Canada’s capital city, Ottawa, tax-free in perpetuity for the next 99 years … and all for the low-low price of getting the ismaeli’s email list and their king’s promise they’d all vote conservative as a bloc.
Sometimes I seriously wonder if Harper’s related to Grover Norquist?! Same mentality at work there, mon amis.
Harper probably presumed that all islamic crime is organized from the top down, little realizing their do-it-yourself war and crime manual, the Qur’an, had already been surreptitiously translated into both French and English – centuries ago.
The full confession from Harper’s own official website:
http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2014/02/07/pm-welcome-his-highness-aga-khan-canada
Beyond that, muslims DON’T share Western values at all – quite the opposite!
As I’ve said before (and, since islam will never change, no doubt I’ll be forced to say again – and again!):
Islamic sharia “law” (crime) is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Western LAW.
Our LAW is based on the Golden Rule, which most simply defines all circumstantial, situational morality as
“Do Not Attack First.”
So all is forbidden, unless and until very specifically agreed to.
This means our only real right is to not be attacked first, and our only real responsibility is to not attack (thereby innocent) others first. Period.
It also therefore means we aren’t allowed to do anything either TO, or FOR each other, without getting the others’ express assent first.
And it applies at all levels of human social interaction, from the individual, family, clan, tribe, nation, state, empire and global (international) levels.
It’s why even the largest group or gang of individual humans, “the state” isn’t allowed to attack any of its real live human individual citizen component parts first, and so it’s why we have an expectation of “Innocent Until Proven Guilty,” and not – as criminal libertine “liberal” gangsters always seem to prefer, the exact opposite, or “Guilty Until Never Proven Innocent!”
From this social contract, the West establishes trust, and through that trust, economic progress, and Civilization.
Islam, being based on the exact opposite, where all is allowed except and until that which is very specifically disallowed, asserts it’s always everyone’s holy right and duty to attack everyone else first, to do whatever they can (might makes right!) TO others, as long as they can claim to be doing it FOR them (for their own good)!
From embracing this brazen rule of criminal chaos, they inflict distrust, economic stagnation, and savage barbarism on everyone.
CAPISCE?
😉
Further, Islam is inherently a form of SEDITION – because it never agreed with the Christian notion of separating secular (road-paving, taxation) and religious realms (render unto Caesar) and went with “Render The World Unto Muhammad!”
So it doesn’t believe in national sovereignty, preferring global theocracy (‘ummah’) ruled by the Caliphate government!
Islam is ONLY a crime syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it’s where they say:
“God told us to commit these crimes!”
Muslims are never national citizens; they regard all national sovereignties as temporary, man-made false idols which must all be eventually destroyed and replaced with the one-world global muslim Ummah, to be ruled by their theocratic caliphate, and their duty is to wage offensive war to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-muslims.
Terrorism is an inherent, not an incidental, nor in any way a “radical,” component of islam.
NO MUSLIMS ARE “PATRIOTS” OR NATIONALISTS OF ANY KIND!
No self-determined muslim believes in any sovereign national governments nor countries at all, ever!
Sharia is allegedly the perfect law of allah, based directly on the Qur’an!
So it always applies to all humans everywhere!
SO WHO NEEDS ANY – EVEN “ELECTED” – MAN-MADE GOVERNMENTS TO CREATE LAWS WHICH DIFFER FROM SHARIA?!
Recall the Ayatollah Khomeini’s words during his 1980 speech in Qom, the Shi’ite spiritual hub:
“We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land burn. I say let this land [Iran] go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.”
So, since islam is a subversive anti-national and anti-legal entity, why on earth are any of its “muslim” members ever afforded any legal standing to promote their criminal treasonous sedition, before any of our courts of law?!
Islam’s Sharia is either compatible with our Western, morality-based law (in which case it is superfluous) or it is not (in which case it is illegal).
There is only one universally accepted version of sharia crime (‘law’) and that is the original, Haneefite version as recorded in The Hedaya and used by the Ottoman Empire to rule all of islam for centuries; all moslems in all their countries are very aware of its simple might-makes-right and us-versus-them tenets and strictures.
There is really only one Qur’an, one islam, and one sharia.
So, since islam is a subversive anti-national and anti-legal entity, why on earth are any of its “muslim” members ever afforded any legal standing to promote their criminal treasonous sedition, before any of our courts of law?!
Allowing foreign (sharia “law”) courts to exist in your country is to enable those foreign governments to govern in your country; it’s obviously TREASON.
David says
hey Galen. You sure did have a lot of time to tell us kuffars how to ring we all are about islam. Do you even have a job ?
chris says
people keep this in perspective 2000 people were polled
Jean Laplante says
I am a french canadian from quebec and I am proud that our troupes are fighting ISIS in the middle east. Harper won my vote.