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Al-Azhar Sheikh: “Islam cannot prevail and spread by means of weapons”

Apr 30, 2015 7:44 am By Robert Spencer

sheikh-ahmed-al-tayeb-reuters_1Al-Tayeb says here that “what the Islamist armed movements are doing is wrong.” However, rejoicing over his “moderation” may be premature: he has justified anti-Semitism on Qur’anic grounds; called for the Islamic State murderers of the Jordanian pilot to be crucified or have their hands and feet amputated on opposite sides (as per the penalty in Qur’an 5:33 for those who make war against Allah and his messenger or spread “mischief” in the land); and broken off “dialogue” with the Vatican after Pope Benedict XVI dared to criticize the jihad massacre of 21 Christians in Alexandria on New Year’s Eve 2011. Al-Azhar was also revealed to be offering free copies of a book that called for the slaughter of Christians and other Infidels.

Here he says the Qur’an cannot be changed, and not even a new interpretation is needed. To counter the Islamic State’s challenge, he says that Al-Azhar is setting up “multilingual observation centre to monitor what ISIS and the other armed movements are spreading in the world.” So relax.

As for his claim about Islam not prevailing through violence, it would be interesting to know what he made of these Qur’an verses, among others:

2:191-193:  “And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.”

4:89: “They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.”

5:33: “This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.”

8:39: “Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s entirely; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.”

8:60: “Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to terrify thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatsoever you expend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.”

8:67: “It is not for a prophet to have captives until he inflicts a massacre in the land. Some Muslims desire the commodities of this world, but Allah desires the Hereafter. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.”

9:5: “Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.”

9:29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden — such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book — until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.”

9:111: “Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.”

9:123: “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”

47:4: “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.”

“‘What the Islamist armed movements are doing is wrong,'” by Khalid El Kaoutit, Qantara, April 30, 2015:

Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb is grand imam of al-Azhar University in Cairo, one of the highest religious instances in Sunni Islam. In an interview with Khalid El Kaoutit, he explains how the jihadists of Islamic State (IS) are abusing Islamic doctrine for their own purposes

Al-Azhar is currently facing completely new challenges. The so-called “Islamic State” is building its empire in the Arab world on the basis of Islam. How is your institution dealing with this?

Ahmed al-Tayeb: In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Let us first agree on the term “Islamic State in Iraq and Syria” (ISIS). There is at present no “Islamic state” in that sense. Nor do I agree with your claim that ISIS has supposedly conquered the Arab world. That’s precisely their propaganda! As an institution, al-Azhar teaches its students that Islam cannot prevail and spread by means of weapons, but through arguments, logic and conviction. What the Islamist armed movements are doing is wrong. Al-Azhar is not in agreement with it and disapproves of their activities.

What are the reasons for the emergence of these radical Islamist groups?

Al-Tayeb: Among other things, the crucial factors are the many setbacks experienced by young people, the economic backwardness, unemployment. That means that we need a vitalisation of the economy. The West has to take responsibility too and help the Arab countries to free themselves from the beast of terror. This could, for example, take the form of economic co-operation and political support. Western countries have to guarantee the Arab states a protective barrier, because if the terror remains here, it would be wrong to think that the West will be unaffected. We all know that people from the West have been voluntarily taking up arms on their own initiative to fight their own countries of origin and their fellow countrymen.

You mentioned economic factors as some of the reasons for the emergence of IS. But these militant groups all invoke Islam. So is it not necessary to change the image of Islam?

Al-Tayeb: No. It is necessary to present Islam the way it is, the way it respects others, the way it believes in others and grants them freedom of religion. It doesn’t work the way some people are demanding: change your cultural heritage! Change the Koran! No, the Koran is unalterable, just like the Bible.

But even President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi has called for a new religious discourse. Does Islam need a fundamental renewal?

Al-Tayeb: Fundamental? No. That would mean altering the Koran and the foundations of the religion. The president said he doesn’t mean a new interpretation of the scriptures; what he means is that we’re facing new problems that have never existed in this form before and for which there is as yet no discourse. What we need is to find a new discourse that addresses these challenges.

And what steps is al-Azhar taking in this respect?

Al-Tayeb: Among other things, we’re working on setting up a multilingual observation centre to monitor what ISIS and the other armed movements are spreading in the world. All this will be presented to a commission of al-Azhar scholars and then analysed by them. Recommendations will then be formulated, translated and published on the al-Azhar website….

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  1. David says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 8:23 am

    You omitted Sura 2:190 the Sura directly before 2:191 which specifically sanctions only attacking IF attacked first. Sura 2:191 is taken out of context deliberately to make it appear aggression is permitted when it’s not according to 2:190. Quoting 2:191 without including 2:190 is misleading and grossly unjust.

    There are numerous translations of this verse by credible translators which clearly show the Quran States that Muslims are not to attack first.

    Quran Sura 2:190

    George Sale

    “And fight for the religion of GOD against those who fight against you; but transgress not by attacking them first, for GOD loveth not the transgressors.”

    Excerpt From: “The Koran (Al-Qur’an).”

    “And fight for the cause of God against those who fight against you: but commit not the injustice of attacking them first: God loveth not such injustice”

    Excerpt From: Muhammad. “The Koran translated by Rodwell.”

    “[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.”

    Excerpt From: Dr. Rashad Khalifa Ph.D. “Quran: The Final Testament – Authorised English Version.” Dr. Rashad Khalifa Ph.D.

    2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.”

    Excerpt From: Pickthall, Marmaduke. “The Meaning Of The Glorious Quran.”

    • PRODOS says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 8:45 am

      David claims that leaving out Sura 2:190 throws Sura 2:191 out of context — making it appear as aggression instead of as defence.

      I dispute this claim. But putting that aside for the moment, can David provide the context which shows the other 10 versus quoted by Robert Spencer are also out of context and therefore misleading?

    • Don McKellar says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 8:47 am

      David, I thought you were posing as a Baha’i this week — now this?

      • mortimer says

        Apr 30, 2015 at 9:18 am

        Sword used to propagate Islam

        “The FACT that the sword and power were means of SPREADING ISLAM is not a sources of shame for Islam, rather it is one of its STRENGTHS AND VIRTUES, because that makes people adhere to that which will benefit them in this world and in the Hereafter.” –Islam qa
        http://islamqa.info/en/ref/43087

      • RonaldB says

        Apr 30, 2015 at 9:38 am

        Well, recall that David claims that Ba’hai know the Koran better than Muslims and can argue conclusively that the Koran mandates peace.

        The Ba’hai are an offshoot of Islam that centers around it’s own prophet (which, like the Ahmadiyya is why the Ba’hais are persecuted by Muslims, although it still doesn’t keep the Ba’hai from carrying water for the Koran).

        The Ba’hai are peaceful, like the Amadiyya, but nonviolently enforce a rigid lockstep of thought within their community by expelling and shunning anyone who expresses an opinion counter to their dogma.

        The Ba’hai were also complicit in the use of Savak, or terror police, in Iran under the Shah.

    • ECAW says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 9:23 am

      But there are even more translations which copy the word for word version:

      “And fight in (the) way (of) Allah those who fight you and (do) not transgress. Indeed, Allah (does) not like the transgressors.”

      What things count as transgressions? I don’t see any reason to assume they refer to attacking first. Perhaps they refer to mutilating bodies or killing women or children, or destroying date palms (that’s mentioned somewhere). We don’t know.

      http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/2/190/default.htm

    • shabeer_hassan says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      THANK U DAVID THEY OMIT THESE ALL
      KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE PROHIBITED
      2:83,2:84,85,86,4: 90,91,5: 28,8: 72,9: 4,17:33,25: 68,49: 6,
      Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 80,85
      Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 34 :: Hadith 299,440
      Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 48 :: Hadith 821
      Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 51 :: Hadith 28
      Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 53 :: Hadith 391
      Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 58 :: Hadith 194 ,233
      Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 59 :: Hadith 628
      Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 134
      Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 8
      Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 840
      Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,12,17,19,21,37
      Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 183,184,185,187,237
      Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
      Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 423
      Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 611,623
      Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 157 ,161
      Muslim :: Book 7 : Hadith 3142
      Muslim :: Book 16 : Hadith 4152,4154,4156,4158
      Muslim :: Book 17 : Hadith 4238
      Muslim :: Book 20 : Hadith 4554 ,4555
      Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6247 ,6248, 6249,6251
      Muslim :: Book 34 : Hadith 6454 ,6458
      Muslim :: Book 41 : Hadith 6903,6950
      Muslim :: Book 43 : Hadith 7171,7172,7173
      Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2763
      Dawud :: Book 35 : Hadith 4247,4257 ,4259
      Dawud :: Book 39 : Hadith 4483, 4487
      Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
      Malik :: Book 43 : Hadith 43.19.13

      • Linde Barrera says

        Apr 30, 2015 at 12:56 pm

        To Shaver Hassan- I have no doubt that the Quran has verses that give instructions NOT to hurt innocent individuals. Yet, how do you explain the actions of 2 very evil Muslim brothers in the Boston Marathon of April 2013, where 4 totally innocent people were murdered and over 200 totally innocent individuals were maimed? Please don’t write that it was the work of infidels. That would be a lie. But wait, the Quran sanctions lying.

        • Beagle says

          Apr 30, 2015 at 3:47 pm

          In Islam there are only prohibitions against killing other Muslims. “Innocent” is always a word game to them. They hope you will assume it includes non-Muslims.

      • Linde Barrera says

        Apr 30, 2015 at 12:59 pm

        To shabeer_hassan- I apologize for the unintended typo of your 1st name.

      • No Fear says

        Apr 30, 2015 at 8:57 pm

        More taqiyya from a Mohammedan.

        Islam defines “the innocent” as ….. muslims.
        Non muslims are to be “treated ruthlessly”.

        Quran 5:54 Allah will bring a people whom He loveth and who love Him, humble toward believers, stern toward disbelievers, striving in the way of Allah, and fearing not the blame of any blamer. Such is the grace of Allah which He giveth unto whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

        Quran 48:29 Mohammed is Allah’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.

    • Wellington says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 2:37 pm

      Your parsing, David, and the parsing by many others continue all the while Muslims keep slaughtering and maiming people. I am exceeedingly tired of the excuses proffered by someone like you who says something to the effect, “Wait, wait, you just can’t read this verse from the Koran alone, you have to read the one before it or after it as well” or “You’re taking this verse out of context and it really means this thing rather than the other thing.” And yet the slaughter goes on while people like you want us to micromanage verses from the Koran. What other religion requires this? What other religion demands that you have to read its holy book a certain way so that one can conclude it doesn’t mean harm to other people? Enough already.

      Also, and as PRODOS has already mentioned, you didn’t address all the other verses Robert Spencer supplied here which demonstrate that there is a blood-thirstyness and control-freak aspect found in the Koran which has made it the worst piece of religious literature ever written. As for Mohammed, the character of this man stands in stark contrast to that of other religious and ethical founders like Jesus, Buddha, Confucius, Lao-tzu and Zoroaster. Anyone with a character like Mohammed has no business founding a religion. One knows this or should know it.

      • duh_swami says

        Apr 30, 2015 at 6:03 pm

        Wellimgton…You have this ‘way’ of splaining things where even David could understand it…Shabeer, I’m not so sure of…

    • Beagle says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 3:41 pm

      One problem, of many, with your analysis is that Muslims view almost anything as an attack on their religion. Using informants to catch terrorists, cartoons, opposing a mosque in a suburb, preaching another religions, foreign troops sent to defend Muslims, ad infinitum, etc., etc., are all viewed as justifications for ‘defensive’ jihad.

      • Beagle says

        Apr 30, 2015 at 3:50 pm

        This was a response to David.

        The word “attack” does not define itself. To Muslims, virtually anything but converting or paying the jizya is an attack.

    • tilda says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 5:38 pm

      You’re quoting defunct verses David:

      2.190 is abrogated by 9.5 (Verse of the Sword) and by 9.36.
      2.191 is abrogated by 9.5 (Verse of the Sword).

    • No Fear says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      So why did Mohammed raid (offensively, not defensively) Jewish trading caravans?

      Mohammed is a liar, a cheat, a rapist, a pedophile, a killer of Jews.

      His “revelation” is the most vile pack of lies ever written. It even outdoes Mein Kampf on the vileness scale. It is the manifesto of a gangster.

    • pumbar says

      May 1, 2015 at 1:49 am

      “the Quran States that Muslims are not to attack first.”

      Tell that to Seventh century Egyptians, Syrians, Spanish Visigoths, French, Persians, Byzantines and Libyans.

  2. PRODOS says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 8:31 am

    Robert Spencer provides many examples of “fight, slay, slaughter, kill” verses from the Qur’an.

    But even though Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb is said to believe that “Islam cannot prevail and spread by means of weapons, but through arguments, logic and conviction” … he provides no theological references.

    Or maybe his words need to be read in a more hair-splitting manner.

    For instance: It’s true, as the Sheik says, that Islam CANNOT prevail through weapons … if, let’s say, the Kafir are militarily stronger. Fighting a vastly stronger enemy would lead to defeat and humiliation.

    Other interpretations of the Sheik’s words — which reconcile the “fight, slay, slaughter, kill” verses with his statements, are also possible.

  3. Truth Seeker says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 9:16 am

    Where did Islam grow without violence? Without Violence Islam can’t exist also.
    In the modern world, Islam’s growth in 3 Stages.
    1). When Muslim Population is very less and not have the strength to overrun others, they maintain peace and cooperate. This is Submissive Period.
    2).As the strength rises troubling others start. They operate in 2 groups. One Group start jihad Attacks and torture the Innocents, the other Group utter Islam is peace and those who do the violence do not understand the Teaching, as if this group doesn’t agree to violence, though that is not the Truth. (The Teaching is Those who do not do Jihad directly or indirectly will be put into Hell). In Support of the Statement they Quote few words from Quran which are meant for the Submissive Period. This is called Transition Period.
    Presently Europe experiences this Period.
    3).The Last is Subjugation Period, where others will be overrun by force and impose Islam.
    This Period is not away for Europe.

    • No Fear says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 9:04 pm

      Exactly. Islam is a two headed monster.

  4. Gary says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 9:25 am

    Another reason Islam cannot spread. They can’t make this confident declaration of the heart:

    “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. ”

    1 Peter 1:3-5

  5. mortimer says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 10:14 am

    Why Islam is False:
    1) Allah demands Muslims conquer the world militarily to impose the Islamic State whether people want it or not.
    2) At the time of Mohammed, the weapon of mass destruction was the catapult.
    3) Today we have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth.
    4) If Muslims seek to impose Islam with modern weapons they will destroy the earth and be incapable of ruling it because it will not exist.
    5) Allah obviously did not foresee nuclear weapons, so Allah is not omniscient.
    6) Islam claims Allah is omniscient. Since he is not, therefore Islam is false.

  6. mortimer says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 10:44 am

    TIRESOME TAQIYYA OF GRAND IMAM AL TAYEB…

    Blah. Blah. Don’t fight the infidels today because WE at Al Azhar say so…blah, blah…fight the infidels tomorrow or whenever the president of Berzerkistan says so. Don’t listen to ISIS…blah…blah…listen to us…us! Not them!

    So that is the gist of his argument…’We at Al Azhar University have the truth…but ISIS does not.’

    This is TIRESOME TAQIYYA!

    “He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar.” – Sahih Bukhari 3:49:857

    • Linde Barrera says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 2:07 pm

      To Mortimer and my fellow Jihad Watch subscribers- Today I called several offices of my US Senator, Charles Schumer. The question I asked to his aides was this: “I am a Christian lady, and I am very concerned about the rise of violence by followers of Islam. In the Muslim Holy Book, the Quran, it states to fight and kill non-Muslims. My issue is not with any person, but with the violence written into the core texts of islam. If a country gave money to build a mosque in a state of the United States, and the imam (Sunni) or the mullah (Shiite) preached sermons on committing violence against non-Muslims, and then violence and killings were committed due to those sermons, could the mosque be sued under the RICO Act? (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization) Here are the answers I got: The 2 aides in Schumer’s Syracuse and Albany offices told me they would find out and get back to me. An aide in the Binghamton office said ” There are always a few bad apples in every bunch because of the way they interpret the Quran, and it would be highly unlikely that Islam could be outlawed.” The aide in the Peekskill office told me “Most violent Muslims get radicalized through the internet and how they interpret the Quran, not by a mosque, so there is no need to fear a mosque.” The aide in Rochester said: “Just like the law states a person cannot scream ‘FIRE’ in a movie theater unless there is a real fire, a person would need undeniable proof that incitement to kill came as a result from hearing a sermon in a mosque. Also, you can call the Dept of Justice to find out more.” So those are my findings for today. I intend to write to new Attorney General Loretta Lynch and get her take on it. I want to put the violence and killings cited in the Quran out there to as many people as I can.

      • voegelinian says

        May 1, 2015 at 2:23 pm

        Senator Schumer’s staff sounds like a microcosm of the mainstream West’s myopic worldview on Islam (a mainstream whose waters, confluent with the World River, De Nile, often show signs of subterranean phreatic veins even in the Counter-Jihad).

  7. Linde Barrera says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 10:48 am

    To David- I will challenge what you wrote about “….do not begin the hostilities, Allah does not love aggressors.” Using that verse, how in God’s creation can you or any Muslim justify the Boston Marathon bombings? There were over 200 individuals just standing peacefully, watching the marathon, or running in the marathon. They were not aggressive against anybody. They were participating in a sport and they had to have agreed to its rules before participating. And now those people are either dead or amputees. And all because the 2 evil Tsarnaev brothers interpreted Islam the way they did. I conclude Islam is evil and it is a cult, not a religion, for LOSERS. Yet these LOSERS can become winners through the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, if their ears heard the saving grace of the Gospel and their hearts changed. Think on this David. Thank you.

  8. Westman says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 11:12 am

    The very doctrine that Islam MUST spread and every believer MUST spread it creates the Fitnah that leads to violence. As an agent of peace, Islam is a complete and utter failure, much like communism, because it is a robber of cognitive choice and innovation.

    Islamic doctrine came from the siezure-prone mind of a 40 year old dependent who was living off his wealthy wife. It was an expansion from sanguine dependency to warlord-spoils dependency and has locked Islam into a permanent enmity with free thought and progression.

    Islam is a Club without art, music, science, equality, or free-minded conversation whose members are commanded to bring that misery to others; first by choice, then by force. Free minds don’t emmigrate to where the Club dominates, rather, the Club emmigrates to infect its misery where free minds can be found.

    It is an old notion, described in the Bible as a war in heaven, where a decision was made between forcing humans to obey dogma or have free thought and choice. Lack of choice became satanic.

    Frankly, Al-Azhar University is irrelevant in bringing peace to Islam because it can’t refute the written warlord doctrine of the Quran and Hadiths.

    Muhammad, with his altered-state mind, created a mental-control virus and set it free into the human network.

    • Linde Barrera says

      Apr 30, 2015 at 11:25 am

      To Westman- I marvel at your God-given ability to synthesize and evaluate Islam and its ramifications. Thank you kindly.

  9. Linde Barrera says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    To Mortimer and my fellow Jihad Watch subscribers- I just got a call back from Senator Schumer’s Albany office and the aide there said: “If you know of any church that is inciting violence, call the FBI.” I was astounded to hear her use the word “church” instead of “mosque”. Sounds like a politically correct term to be, and I called this aide on it, stating that preachers in churches do not incite violence, but preachers in mosques do.

  10. Fritz Kohlhaas says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    The Koran is an evil book! Therefore, Islam is evil! Mohammed was a psychopath! Enough said!!!

  11. Sam says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 4:56 pm

    “Islam cannot prevail and spread by means of weapons”

    Agreed with this Moslem. Stealth Jihad is wonderfully effective in the United States especially as expressed clearly in the phrase “Islam is a religion of peace. People still don’t get Islam, thanks to the media and Obama and the liberal America haters.

    My God how did we become so ignorant of what’s going on in the world with all the info available everywhere?

  12. Atikva says

    Apr 30, 2015 at 6:30 pm

    Blah.. blah… blah…

    The only thing of interest for these sheikhs, emirs, ulemas and other so-called scholars is: who is going to rule the Western caliphate after the conquest? Right now, the contenders are Iran and Saudi Arabia, Egypt is not even on the starting line.

  13. katarzyna says

    May 1, 2015 at 4:17 am

    “We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.”(Gaddafi, April 2006)

  14. L says

    May 1, 2015 at 9:12 am

    Typical muslim reaction, though: neither we nor our religion, politics & judicial system needs reform. We’ll criticise someone else and show where he/they’re wrong.

  15. Abu Janyil says

    May 1, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    It is encouraging that a Muslim leader is denouncing the attempt to spread islam through violence. Attributing violent jihad to economic factors such as poverty and eunemployment is however not convincing. Like Muslims, adherents of Christianity and other religions are also victims of poverty and unemployment but they never resort to killing others on account of that. There is a fundamental ideology in islam that encourages this tendency. Muslim leaders all over the world need to do more than simply insisting that their religion is peace while many of its followers easily deploy violence to deal with the so called unbelievers. No one does this in the name of any other religion except islam. To a lay man like me, something is wrong somewhere either with the ideology of islam or its interpretation.

  16. voegelinian says

    May 1, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Straight from the Camel’s Mouth:

    [Interviewer:] But even President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi has called for a new religious discourse. Does Islam need a fundamental renewal?

    Al-Tayeb: Fundamental? No. That would mean altering the Koran and the foundations of the religion. The president [Al-Sissi] said he doesn’t mean a new interpretation of the scriptures; what he means is that we’re facing new problems that have never existed in this form before and for which there is as yet no discourse. What we need is to find a new discourse that addresses these challenges.

  17. voegelinian says

    May 1, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    Andrew Bostom has called Ahmad Al-Tayeb, the current head of Al-Azhar, the “Sunni Pope of Islam”. People in the Mainstream (and sometimes even in the Counter Jihad) assert that “there is no Pope” in Islam (which is supposed to lead us to the conclusion that Islam is wonderfully “diverse” and therefore immune from rational generalizations we can make about it). One could say, however, that Islam does have two Popes — the head of Al-Azhar, and the consensus of the O.I.C. (which represents all the Ulemas of all Muslim nations). These two Popes are in harmony with each other, at least about what matters most to us — Islamic doctrine.

    About this Pope of Islam, Al-Tayeb, Andrew Bostom reports not only that he has promulgated virulent Jew-hatred, but also that he “explains” the rise of Islamic violence in our day, including that of ISIS, as being really a Jewish plot:

    “…consistent with his belief in (and promulgation of) Islam’s “sacralized,” conspiratorial Jew-hating canon—Grand Imam al-Tayeb is insisting that the scourge of jihad terrorism, ravaging the Middle East, epitomized by IS/IL, is due to the machinations of “Global Zionism,” i.e., Jews. During a televised statement which aired on Channel 1 Egyptian TV, September 8, 2014, al-Tayeb intoned:

    All the [fundamentalist terrorist groups] are the new products of imperialism, in the service of global Zionism in its new version, and its plot to destroy the [Middle] East and tear region apart.”

    http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2014/09/17/ahmad-al-tayeb-sunni-islams-pope-global-zionism-jews-responsible-for-jihad-terror-groups-in-the-middle-east/

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