No doubt moderate Muslim spokesmen in Australia and all over the West will quickly explain to us how Harun Mehicevic is wrong on Islamic grounds, and is a misunderstander of Islam.
“Harun Mehicevic hits out at Australian values in Al-Furqan rants,” by James Dowling, Sam Landy, Aleks Devic, and Tom Minear, Herald Sun, April 21, 2015 (thanks to Kenneth):
HARUN Mehicevic, the leader of Al-Furqan Islamic Information Centre, appears to many to be a polite family man.
Since fleeing the Balkans war in the early 1990s he has carved out a life for himself in Melbourne’s Bosnian heartland of Noble Park.
But put a microphone in his hand, and 20 or 30 impressionable youths in front of him, and his deep-seated hatred of “Australian values” soon becomes apparent.
“Australian values are the values of the Kuffar (unbelievers). Your religion is not their values.
“They will not stop fighting you until you give up your religion or are martyred,” he told a gathering of his devout followers at his Springvale South bookshop.
In a recorded lecture after Australia Day — one in a series he gave in 2012 — Mr Mehicevic warned his followers not to take the oath of citizenship pledging allegiance to a “kuffar” government.
“Be careful what they ask us to say. There is no bayah (pledge) to Kuffar (unbeliever). We can only give a bayah to a Muslim leader,” Mr Mehicevic said.
“The (Australian) flag should be a warning to you that we do not belong here. It is a flag of the people of the Cross.”
He ended each lecture with a prayer that “Allah will help the mujahideen (holy warriors)” establish an Islamic State where Muslims can live with “dignity and honour”.
Now five of those with links to controversial clerics at Al-Furqan, and who may have listened to his lectures, have been arrested over an alleged plot to kill police officers.
An Al-Furqan statement released last night said: “We wish to clarify that there was no connection between Al-Furqan centre and these raids, and that claims to the contrary are unfounded and misleading.”
Acting Chief Commissioner Tim Cartwright said police had concerns about Al-Furqan but “risks and opportunities” had to be balanced before any move was made to close it.
Premier Daniel Andrews said it was fair to say that the centre was well monitored.
In one of his rants, Mr Mehicevic spoke of his anger that one of his “brothers” had become a spy for the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation, and told followers how to watch for secret informants, warning of “red flags” and the need to take “precautions”.
The cache of recordings was released just before September 2012, when Federal Police raided Al-Furqan and one of its members was charged with preparing an act of terrorism.
It has long been suspected that police rushed their 2012 raids after Al Furqan members discovered the identity of a police informant.
For a while, the firebrand cleric was part of the mainstream Noble Park Bosnian community.
But after a falling-out with the mosque’s committee, he left in a huff and became a follower of the hard line conservative and purist form of Islam known as Salafism.
Now he denounces mainstream Muslim leaders, branding them hypocrites who encourage Muslims to spy for authorities.
“If a Muslim is unemployed these imams will say there is great opportunity to get employed by ASIO to spy on the other Muslims in the Majid (mosque).”
“There are Muslims who try to please Allah and then there are Muslims who try to please the Kuffar,” he said.
“Allah created paradise for Muslims to be rewarded and hell for the Kuffar to be punished.”…
Jay Airahs says
BEFORE & AFTER
—- “Since fleeing the Balkans war in the early 1990s …”
This would make a ‘great’ prime-time (teachable moment) reality show
1 First a Video record of Muslims claiming “please help me live in your kind and generous non-Muslim country I am a victim.
2 Later the typical Islamic ingratitude
Lee says
Well said. I remember back in 1999 when we (here in Oz) hosted thousands of Muslims, while NATO and especially the US spent $billions bombing predominately Christian Yugoslavia, to save the Muslims of Bosnia and Kosovo.
Several hundred of these Muslims were temporarily billeted at buildings in a spectacular National Park near me, and apart from food and board, were *each* given a couple of hundred dollars spending money per week. Our community was so glad to help, and pleased these people could recover in beautiful surroundings. Within days of arriving, several Muslims were caught stealing in our local shopping mall, and I remember being so puzzled as to why they would thieve from their benefactors.
I could only reason that maybe they’d been so traumatized by the Kosovo War they had become morally confused. It almost makes me laugh at my ignorance of Islamic criminal values, and Muslims’ hatred and war against us. Of course, none of us have an excuse for such ignorance with the rise of the internet post 9/11.
mortimer says
Your incredulity regarding jihad is normal in most of the Western countries. The cruelty and hatred demanded by Allah is beyond the belief of decent people.
Harun Mehicevic and those like him have no place in a civilized country. The bite the hand that feeds them and wait for the opportunity to commit acts of terrorism. Very conservatively, about one out seven thousand Muslims is a terrorist and about 15% of all Muslims support terrorism. Hundreds of dangerous jihadists live in each and every Western country and hundreds of thousands of Muslims support them and help them hide in the population.
Linda Rivera says
I will always be outraged that US/NATO waged an extremely barbaric war for the KLA Muslim terrorist organisation against Kosovo’s Christian Serb innocents. I took part in a street protest against this at the time.
I’m deeply disgusted that instead of rescuing and taking in the Christian Serbs, Australia and other countries took in large numbers of Muslim rabid infidel-haters.
Apart from food and board, were *each* given a couple of hundred dollars spending money per week. Disgusting. Besides food and board given an excessively huge amount of spending money. The authorities love to spend hard-earned infidel tax money on their adored Muslim parasites.
Australia and other Western countries must kick the ungrateful Muslims parasite infidel-haters out now before rivers of blood flow in our streets. In obedience to violent commands in the Quran war book. Major jihad is planned against all our Western nations once Muslim numbers increase even more.
voegelinian says
“Australia and other Western countries must kick the ungrateful Muslims parasite infidel-haters out now before rivers of blood flow in our streets. ”
Yes. Of course, it is highly unlikely the West (or even any single part of the West) will do this any time soon, let alone now. The advocacy for such a policy, then, ought to take this into account. We advocates of Deportation should think in terms of “pushing the meme” with a long view in mind — sort of like putting our shoulders into trying to re-direct a massive ship that is clearly currently going in the wrong direction. The re-direction of the Ship of State of the West will never happen, if no one pitches in to try to correct it.
The reflex spasm (which many a Counter-Jihad person has blurted out when confronted by my Deportation meme) of “well, it’s impossible now, therefore it’ll never happen” has two problems:
1) it is claiming a knowledge of the future which the person doesn’t have
2) it is doing its small part to help to guarantee that the meme will never be realized.
Jonathan says
If he hates Australian values so much, maybe someone should make him answer as to why he chose to go to Australia rather than to virtually anywhere in the middle east.
Michelle Wayne says
All this time since 1990, I wonder did he ever worked for living? or taking Kufar Welfare money it’s OK? Hypocrite! send him back to Bosnia!! no war there, obviously he doesn’t have Australian citizenship because is “kufar” so ? what are the Emigration dept waiting for?
Paul says
Yes, and psychopathic, sexually perverse, sadistic, hateful and
insatiably bloodthirsty ‘values’ are indeed the very attributes of the
devout Muhammadans of the Islamic State who ‘misinterpret’
(perfectly understand) the precepts of the handbook of hate,
otherwise called the ‘holy’ Qu’ran.
Oregano says
Their “values” are “values” of a stone-age barbarian.
Bernie says
This fool lives about 15 miles from me, he knows nothing about Australian history, culture and politics and raves on like an ignorant barbarian, spouting ignorance , hatred and bitterness! I don’t understand how these christian haters and intellectual thugs are let into Australia, just over the last 10 years there has been a huge rise in these type of idiotic comments from these dingoes. Most of us here didn’t even know much about Islam 15 years ago when all this crazy migration started. in Aussie terms this fool is a mug and a dingo and should be shipped back immediately to the hell hole he crawled out of!
Marco Elliott says
Bernie – your description of this muhammadan nutter is quite to the point and quite correct. However, please do not insult our native dog by associating him with Islamic filth. The dingo is highly intelligent, loyal and friendly to humans. This makes the dingo the exact opposite to the average Koran brandishing muhammadan who, as we see day after day, is grossly unintelligent, treacherous and anti any human being who is not a slave of the demon of Makka. Perhaps it is even worse than that, after all, their deluded sects hate each other probably even more than they hate us.
Q. Why do muhammadans hate dogs? A. Because dogs are far superior.
Lee says
Well said! Dogs guide the blind, assist the disabled, help police and rescue services, the army, customs etc – all gladly for humanity. No wonder Muhammad hated dogs – their generous good nature the antithesis of that criminal’s foul hatreds and psychopathic selfishness.
Imagine our societies without Muslims. And now without dogs. How ashamed of themselves Muslims must be at heart, to be such a profound curse on humanity.
Marco Elliott says
Lee, there is also a religious, or perhaps we could say a theological, aspect to the muhammadan hatred of dogs. As you undoubtedly know, their false prophet blamed a postponement of a visit from the Archangel Gabriel on the presence of a dog, a pup, in the madman’s house. The angels, we are told, will not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a representational image.
Throughout the Holy Bible, our Sacred Scriptures, the angels are divinely created beings of great power and majesty. Archangel Gabriel says to the priest-prophet, Zacharia, “I am Gabriel who stands in the presence of God.” (Lk1:19) True angels are servants of the Most High. Muhammadan angels are demonic images conjured up by the satanic inhabitant of the Ka’aba.
The angels as revealed in the Holy Bible would never be afraid of a puppy…..but it would seem that Muhammad was a first rate cynophobe. The more one probes muslim religious thought, the more obvious it is that Islam really is muhammadanism; its dogma and tradition are simply projections of Muhammad’s opportunistic, sociopathic mind.
The aftermath of the Archangel and the puppy incident is proof. Dogs are unclean and must be destroyed says the so-called prophet until he is faced with angry Makkan shepherds and farmers. Presented with real opposition, the “prophet” backs down, and farm dogs, working dogs and sheep dogs, suddenly become OK
Read the accounts of angelic appearances in the Holy Bible. These Biblical Angels of the Lord are hardly troubled by dogs – be they Irish wolf hounds or tea cup Chihuahuas.
The angelic concern with images, and Islam’s violent anti-iconic stance, does not seem to bother muhammadans, including Islamic state psychopaths, when it comes to images made in photographs. On the Last Day, will Allah place before them canisters of cine-film, or piles of DVD’s, or photo albums, and say, “Make them live!”
There are times, when against my better judgment, I almost feel sorry of these poor, deluded, devil-led, black stone worshipping fools.
Julie from Adelaide says
One reason for the denigration of dogs in Islamic ethics would be that it supports the separation from Zoroastrianism, which flourished in the area where Islam first developed. Dogs play an important role in Zoroastrian ritual and ethical life. See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_in_religion
Elisha says
““They will not stop fighting you until you give up your religion or are martyred,” he told a gathering of his devout followers at his Springvale South bookshop.”
Wait a second, I’ve heard that somewhere before.
Searching….
Got it!
THE QURAN!!!!
And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease – then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do. – 8:39 (Sahih International)
Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors. – 2:193
Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts of a believing people – 9:14
O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. – 66:9
Renee says
Indeed, my kuffar values are different. I do not like a beard sooooooo ugly.
I feel sorry for muslim women that the only men they can marry are these ugly hairy types.
Testosteron in overdrive
Renee says
Perhaps the solution is indeed to have other women as wives as well, at least that shares the burden of having to touch such a hairy man
Georg says
“Australian values are the values of the Kuffar.”
Aw… he made an observation!
Next we will show him something called a line graph, with places of Kuffar values and those with Islamic values plotted against quality of life metrics over time! We can share observations together.
Papa Whiskey says
“He ended each lecture with a prayer that ‘Allah will help the mujahideen (holy warriors)’ establish an Islamic State where Muslims can live with ‘dignity and honour.’ ”
This echoes the speech given by the Islamic State honcho Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi last July:
“Soon, by Allah’s permission, a day will come when the Muslim will walk everywhere as a master, having
honor, being revered, with his head raised high and his dignity preserved.”
Linda Rivera says
One of the huge differences between Jews, Christians and Muslims is that we seek to honour God.
Muslims seek honour for themselves. And seek for Muslims to be revered.
Rabidly power-hungry Muslims want to be master over non-Muslims. We see God as our Master and Loving Heavenly Father. We revere Almighty God. To our Precious, Awesome Magnificent Creator alone, belongs reverence. May God’s Great and Wonderful Name be praised throughout all eternity!
Westman says
I get a kick out of guy like this.
Allah is all knowing, all seeing, etc. So, compared to Allah, this guy has the IQ of a Turnip, yet, Allah is so insecure that he must have people prostrating to him 5 times a day or he gets mad and burns people in Hell.
Allah appears to be the ultimate sadist. Allah loves to hear the screams of the burning, and when their skins have melted and burned away, he provides new skins so the torture can continue. It’s estimated that a 100 Billion non-believers have lived on the earth, so given a skin replacement interval of say, every 10 minutes in the hell-fire, then Allah needs to have 10 Billion skins replaced every minute. Allah is busy.
The only person I can think of with this personality is a Dictator in North Korea.
The whole thing is so utterly ridiculous; some Imams are still saying the Sun goes around the Earth, some even think the world is flat.
Islam: “From the mind of a mad man to the minds of men made mad.”
gary says
One other individual comes to mind……
Satan. The Father of all lies. The author of confusion. Masquerading as an angel of light. Desiring to sift you like wheat. Who comes to rob, steal, kill and destroy.
‘But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.’
Julie from Adelaide says
” some even think the world is flat”
Consider the rule of praying “facing Mecca”. Since the Earth is roughly spherical. when they prostrate themselves towards Mecca, their BACK side is also aimed towards Mecca! They seem to calculate the qibla assuming the world is flat.
isabella van der westhuizen says
Why does a great country like Aussie (even though they beat us at cricket) allow these people into the country. They are never going to become dinky Aussies not in a month of Sundays
It is because most other immigrants to Aussie are Christian that they become Aussies after a generation. Not these guys. Now they want to blow up ANZAC day.
Phil says
Sorry Isabella, I don’t entirely agree. It’s because they’re Muslim they don’t and never will become Australians – Christianity is not a necessary pre-condition. Jews have always been a part of Australia, fully loyal and an asset to the community. Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, Cao Daists and dyed-in-the-wool secularists are all happy to become loyal productive citizens. (Three of the above categories describe my neighbours). Not the sons of Islam, however.
Michael Copeland says
Make a poster, or image for social media:
Harun Mehicevic as above with the quote,
“WE DO NOT BELONG HERE”.
Joseph says
“The (Australian) flag should be a warning to you that we do not belong here. It is a flag of the people of the Cross.”
Well then leave. Not only don’t you belong there I bet MOST Australians DON’T want you there.
There are these real neat inventions called boats and planes…….USE THEM. The quicker the better.
No Fear says
“There are these real neat inventions called boats and planes”
invented by the kuffar of course.
Joseph says
I guess they better learn how to swim then. We don’t want them to “soil” themselves with infidel technology.
Michelle Wayne says
I will contribute for them to leave Australia. ))))
No Fear says
Australia gives this man freedom to hate kuffars.
He is free to hate me. He is free to hate all kuffar.
Australia is freedom. Islam is slavery to a 7th century warlord, Mohammed could only use hate as a way to dominate others.
Alan Webb says
So there we have a point. Do not believe in Australian parliamentary law, but still claim welfare. No, one believes in Australian law to be entitled to any Australian legal benefits, including signing legal documents. Even ones birth right may well be challenged. Mosques and clerics that preach otherwise should be treated as a totally foreign entity, refused any taxpayers funds.
Charli Main says
“Since fleeing the Balkans war in the early 1990s he has carved out a life for himself in Melbourne’s Bosnian heartland of Noble Park.”
Also a vipers nest of Bosnian War Criminals. Wonder how many Bosnian mass murderers and child rapists are now living ” peacefully” in Dhimini Australia. ???
Oooppps !!!!! silly me—-I forgot, that all those poor Bosnian Muslims were the victims of brutal Christian atrocities and had to flee for their lives to the lands of the Pigs and Apes.
Wake Up says
I agree our values are totally incompatible with islam he will never be happyso throw him out.
voytech says
I’m with you where the hell is the “like” button lol
Peggy says
Tell that to our government, the press and many ordinary Aussies and they will tell you that you are a racist and Islamophobic.
Sadly, there are still too many Aussies who believe our corrupt media.
Michelle Wayne says
Reclaim Australia is still going strong, and we will be getting bigger and bigger watch out for next protest when thousands of us will march peacefully, the Muslim organization will not come out only sends “crowd for hire” full of communists, junkies, lefties and treble makers,.old lady’s looking for some extra money to they pension, they could’t care less as long they get paid.
Peggy says
I pray that Reclaim Australia gets bigger and stronger all the time.
Unfortunately the looney lot who also organize a counter protest get a lot of support from the media and they are made to look like they are in the majority.
What doesn’t help Reclaim Australia are the groups with their own agendas who muddy the message.
There are many more of us at home supporting Reclaim Australia.
God, open the eyes of as many people in this great country as you can.
Julie from Adelaide says
The opponents of “Reclaim Australia” even used some intellectually disabled people; one was interviewed on Youtube, did not know what his sign said. He had been told, but he thought it referred to referees, not refugees. Another clip showed a man who just LOOKS as if he may be intellectually disabled; he may have been OK ,but I have my doubts. He acted like it but then, most of that crowd were acting very foolishly in Melbourne.
I went to the Adelaide rally which was non-violent, well run, great fun. I eagerly await the next one.
Alan says
All Moslems must be deported from western countries. It took Spain almost 1000 years to change from Islam conquest to total expulsion of ALL follwers of the demon Allah and his pedophile rapist murdering agent Mahound the jew and Christian hating false prophet. Will the west not learn from the history of the Spanish Reconquista. Because if rampant Islamic migration is not stopped and Moslems already in the west forced to leave or assimilate, much will be lost to this 1400 year old evil called Islam. Time for another reconquista!
Jaladhi says
At least Australians have “values”!! Muslims have no values!! That’s the difference between a us and Muslims!!
Jaladhi says
Typo:
>>>At least Australians have “values”!! Muslims have no values!! That’s the difference between us and Muslims!!
PJG says
Ah, Jaladhi, so you’re an Aussie?
Jaladhi says
No, I am not but in this fight we are all Aussies, Americans, Brits, Indians, Canadians,.. as Muslims are only for ummah and not for any country they live in!
Julie from Adelaide says
See: http://www.ummat-al-kuffar.org/members/
duh_swami says
“The (Australian) flag should be a warning to you that we do not belong here.
He finally got something right, they don’t belong there…
The cure for that is a one way plane ticket to Mecca, Pakistan, or maybe Yemen where life is much better for the faithful…
Ephesian says
If you don’t like Australian values then high tail it back to your 7th century sand hole,you are of no consequence or value to humanity,you worship satan.
Peggy says
“The (Australian) flag should be a warning to you that we do not belong here. It is a flag of the people of the Cross.”
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Then why are you here you SOB? Let me guess, to spread Islam.
What angers me the most is that Serbian community has been warning of Muslim problems but nobody would listen. They were deemed the genocidal lot and their reputation was blackened.
Brigitten Gabriel was also warning about Islam in Lebanon and the Lebanese community in Australia was also warning the government not to let Lebanese Muslim “refugees” in but again nobody listened.
I can’t understand why western governments don’t listen to their own Christians from other countries when they try to warn them.
deja vu says
‘I can’t understand why western governments don’t listen to their own Christians from other countries when they try to warn them.’
It seems incomprehensible that the ordinary person can see the danger of Muslim immigration and our Governments just keep bringing in more. There have been appeals from Christian agencies to give sanctuary to Christians fleeing from persecution, but their pleas fall on deaf ears.
I find it strange that sedition has been taken off the Statute books in Australasia. I find it even stranger that our governments seem to be unwilling to reinstate it, thus making them unable to revoke citizenship of so-called ‘refugees’ who turn out to be nothing but hate-filled ranters, inciters and leeches. For years we have handed out citizenship like sweets, and have believed the lies of loyalty to the nation that Muslims have sworn to gain it. Before 9/11 it may be have been excusable, but now they *must* know that Islam endorses lying to gain advantage over the ‘kuffr’.
In the past I would have doubted that this could happen. But it is clear that the sovereignty of western countries has been eroded to such an extent that they can have little say.The UN (in all its manifestations) and the EU make the rules. And there are far bigger fish than them pulling the strings behind the scenes.The New World Order is no longer a conspiracy theory put around by crackpots but referred to openly by politicians. We live in disturbing times.
Martin Tomek says
Vladimir Putin’s speech – SHORTEST SPEECH EVER.
On August 04, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:
In Russia, live like Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, it should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslim’s then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law.
Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’. We will not tolerate disrespect of our Russian culture. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Muslims are taking over those countries and they will not take over Russia. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims.
When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the Russian national interest first, observing that the Muslims Minorities Are Not Russians.
The politicians in the Duma gave Putin a five minute standing ovation.
voegelinian says
Well, it’s been two years now. Has Russia implemented all the policy that logically flows from those robust remarks?
Peggy says
There was no mention of implementing any specific laws in that speech.
What Putin said is that in future any new laws will have Russia’s interests only.
If only we had someone like Putin in Australia and made it crystal clear to the Muslims that they WILL NOT get any special treatment and definitely no Halal certification (tax on infidels).
Julie from Adelaide says
Not exactly true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/putinduma.asp