Imagine praising a son who murdered people, including an eight-year-old boy in a horrific manner, for the crime of being American and watching a footrace. But this reaction is not surprising. Islamic supremacists always blame their victims. They never bear any responsibility for any of the atrocities they commit. It is always the Infidel’s fault. This is so common, so unanimous a reaction that no one should be in the least surprised by what Zubeidat Tsarnaeva says here. It would have been surprising if she had said anything else.
“Boston marathon bomber’s mother says ‘Americans are terrorists, my son is the best,'” by Supriya Jha, ZeeNews, April 9, 2015:
London: After convicting Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on all 30 counts in 2013 Boston marathon bombing case, the 12-member jury in Massachusetts will now decide whether the 21-year-old bomber would be awarded death penalty or he would spend the rest of his life in jail.
The jury will now start hearing evidence to decide Dzhokar’s fate, who reportedly fidgeted and stood with his hands folded and gaze fixed down as the charges were being read.
Reacting to the verdict, Dzhokar’s mother Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, in a note sent to a family friend, reiterated that her son was innocent while America was “the terrorist”, reported the Vocativ.
Vocativ also found the bomber’s mother’s note posted on a Russian social networking site. The note written in Russian translated to, “I will never forget it. May god bless those who helped my son. The terrorists are the Americans and everyone knows it. My son is the best of the best”.
Dzhokhar along with his brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev staged the deadly pressure cooker bomb attack at Boston marathon on April 15, 2013 that left 3 people dead and over 260 injured out of which over a dozen lost limbs.
Also police officer Sean Collier was killed later in the shootout as both the brothers attempted to flee.
Dzhokhar has been found guilty on all 30 counts, 17 of which carry death penalty.
The verdict did not come as a surprise as Tsarnaev’s lawyer had, in the very beginning, admitted to Dzhokhar’s role in the attacks which he carried with his elder brother Tamerlan.
Apparently, this was in line with the defense lawyer’s strategy to spare him the death penalty by contending that Dzhokar, who was a “kid” and a “teenager” (when the attacks took place) was radicalised by his elder brother.
“If not for Tamerlan, it would not have happened,” Defense attorney Judy Clarke reasoned at the trial.
However, the prosecutors portrayed Dzhokar as an equal accomplice in the terror attacks, describing him as a “mujahideen” who wanted to “punish America” for wars in Muslim countries.
Contrary to defense lawyer, the prosecutors contended that Dzhokhar was self-radicalised and was influenced by US-Yemen cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, the AFP reported….
Godwin says
Why migrated to America where they are all terrorists in the first place ? So now get the hell out of America, stupid.
cs says
Just posted the same content, it is so obvious. if they are not happy they could keep eating their kebabs in Dagestan or Chechenya, and forget about us.
voegelinian says
They aren’t coming to the West to find “happiness” — but for the “Hijra in reverse” (infiltration-cum-invasion, in lieu of a frank military assault which currently they are unable to wage).
For more on the “Hijra in reverse”, see my essay:
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2015/02/hijra-in-reverse.html
blogspot.com/2015/02/hijra-in-reverse.html
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2015/02/hijra-in-reverse.html
voegelinian says
These text draft boxes are not ideal — my link was not showing up so I pasted it in again, still didn’t show up, so I pasted it in again and only saw one there — until I published it — and now there are three (head on laptop…)
gravenimage says
This is very true, Voeg—most Muslims are coming to the West to “Islamoform” our civilized societies, not to find happiness or opportunity as do most Infidel immigrants.
cs says
So why her children went to America to start with? That is just shows how grateful they are.
cs says
typo, forget the is after the “that”
Beagle says
I though she was a goner when the house fell on her. If you are pretty and have a little dog, run!
Mirren10 says
🙂
St. Croix says
Yes, my son is the best. The best terrorist around. Except he got caught in the end.
RonaldB says
Islam has only one goal: to spread itself. It is superbly adapted to this goal. It has members who are interchangeable psychologically, and increasingly with first-cousin marriages, genetically. Thus, any particular Islamic unit (Muslim) is expendable, even to himself.
The uniformity of the Muslim goal and population is distinguished by the many different approaches to infiltrating a non-infected population. It’s a very Darwinian dynamic: the successful approaches are reinforced and the unsuccessful approaches sacrifice only those organisms involved, which is no problem, either to the other Muslims, or the organisms themselves.
In the case of the Tsarnaevas, the approach is to destabilize their host societies, in the expectation that the stronger parts will weaken, and the weaker parts can be approached easier by Muslim proselytes. The very significant inroads that Muslim proselytizing makes among criminal populations in prison, and among lower-class blacks in the US illustrates this. Even notably marginal people add to the impact of Islam as they are soldiers for further destabilization of the host society, and for specific attacks on competing institutions. The murders at Charlie Hebdo illustrate this perfectly.
In this light, the reaction of Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, Drozkhar’s mother, is not surprising. It should be noted, though, that it is not grief for her sons’ fates that drives her, but the generalized rage used by Muslims as a crutch for further spread of the faith. As far as her personal feelings, I doubt that she would have noticed that her sons were dead or locked up for life, if she hadn’t seen the news reports.
Let me add that I consider the Amadiyyas to be part of the outlying variants of Islam, part of the Darwinian mutation schedule. Assuming the defenses of Western society to be better than they turned out to be, the Amadiyyas would have slipped in reverence for Muhammad and the Koran, even if more orthodox (and open) Muslims were excluded from the borders. The Amadiyyas would spread as a “peaceful” Islamic sect, until they were sufficiently numerous, and then, voila, a slight mutation in the Amadiyya community reignites the violent teachings of Islam.
Let me note that the adaptability and specialization of the Islamic organism makes it very complex to deal with once it comes in. It has a superb ability to mimic the forms and appearance of its hosts: thus, the phenomenon of claiming freedom of speech and religion, while calling for legal measures against criticism of Islam.
I think that once Islam has infiltrated, it cannot be excluded, but must be managed. This takes the form of an absolute ban on further Muslim immigration, and a constant pressure on Islamic institutions. For instance, absolutely no face-covering clothing allowed on the street. Every Islamic school must teach in English and must open its classes and assemblies to observers on no notice needed. Same for mosques: sermons must be in English and open to any observer at any time. Laws on animal cruelty and humane slaughter enforced strictly, with no religious exemptions (I include kosher slaughter in this, of course). The books of Muslim charities, their bank accounts and list of contributors and beneficiaries completely open to the public. No observance of Islamic holidays or religious practices whatsoever in public institutions.
Notice that my recommendations do not really infringe on the freedom of religious association, but focus on the religious exclusions that have developed in our legal system.
Also, note that most of my observations on Islam can be derived from analogous reasoning concerning the HIV virus, to which Islam bears an uncanny resemblance.
Linde Barrera says
To RonaldB: Your analysis of the propagation and after effects of Islam on any society are beyond outstanding. Thank you. I wish you were the head honcho of one of our governmental agencies that have to deal with the whole issue of Islam and society.
Lu says
Your recommendations as how to manage Islam in the current stage/era are … fantasy, pardon my language. I fear we are well beyond anything manageable.
Europe will succumb first, the rest of the West we love and cherish and call properly “civilization” will ensue.
Unless there is a violent, armed insurgency of the West against the savage. Living in Texas, I can imagine that. That’s why I oftentimes say “God Bless Texas” even though I am a non-religious person …
RonaldB says
“Your recommendations as how to manage Islam in the current stage/era are … fantasy, pardon my language. ”
Well, I take no offense to ideas or language opposed to mine.
I also live in Texas. Remember that Muslims can buy guns as well as anyone else. Ali Sina, in his book, Understanding Muhammad” says:
”
The second option is to wait until Muslims become a formidable force and fight back when they start taking control of their host countries. That would be a losing fight. When it comes to violence no one can beat Muslims . We can’t kill people because they have a different faith. We can’t kill children because their parents are Muslims. But Muslims have no such qualms. Good Muslims can kill any number of non-Muslims, including children, with total freedom of conscience. Remember Beslan? No one but Muslims could have murdered so many children in cold blood.”
A big danger in fighting Muslims physically is that the armies and governments of the West are likely to intervene on the side of the Muslims. This is what the US and NATO did when the Bosnian Serbs were fighting (and winning) against the Bosnian Muslims.
http://rastko.rs/istorija/iii/cksavich-originsofwar.html
ECAW says
Brilliant diagnosis RonaldB.
I totally agree with your proposals about managing the disease but feel that eventually we will likely have to excise at least some of it with surgery ie deportations of those elements that remain virulent. Those elements that become benign (Mecca style Muslims) or cured (ex-Muslims) will be fine. But there will always be the possibility of mistaken categorisation or relapse.
As for their greater ruthlessness, well we will just have to adapt. I like the motto “Be as nice as possible, as nasty as necessary”.
What the exiled Chaldean Catholic Archbishop of Mosul, Amel Shimoun Nona said to us made a great impression on me:
“Please, try to understand us. Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal, but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home”.
gravenimage says
Sharp stuff from the Archbishop of Mosul, ECAW. Thanks for posting it.
Mirren10 says
Excellent post, RonaldB.
Westman says
RonaldB,
I think you may be on to something significant.
Islam attempts to limit, control, or prohibit music and considers the testimony of a musician as unreliable. This can only be explained by the ways that music can interfere with the chanting of Quran Surah and can create memes and earworms in the mind. An earworm is a song that won’t stop playing in your mind. Memes are infectious thoughts that readily transfer from person to person.
Music competes as memes with the Quranic verses. That would make the Quran a type of mind resonator that is capable of crowding out rational thought.
Considering that Muhammad was in a siezure-trance (described as foaming at the mouth and being covered by a blanket) while “receiving” the Quranic verses, it makes sense that the verses represent an abnormal state of mind.
Psychologists often refer to the conscious mind as the Mouse riding the Elephant(unconscious mind). It may be that constant repetitions of Quranic verses create the same “mindworms” as music down in the unconscious which then invade the conscious. A study was done on musical earworms and the phenomenon only depends on the listening habits of the listener and not on a particular song. Apparently the mind is open to assault by repetition and eventually will replay anything that is “programmed” long enough.
Islam may be like a virus that spreads through Sunnah memes.
Perhaps after years of Sunnah repetitions, the Muslim mind is so deeply programmed that Imams can bring any of it to consciousness with a single repetition and direct it. Nice work for Imams.
RonaldB says
Westman,
I like your approach very much because it is an exercise of creative thinking. It gives a possible avenue for understanding the many conversions to Islam, when it seems quite obvious to any sane, rationale person how malevolent and anti-rational Islam is.
Perhaps your analysis could be applied to leftist thinking, where leftist support the Islam that would make mincemeat of their other espoused principles, such as tolerance, freedom or religion, or support of gays. Leftists have hosted a mind-numbing set of memes, and reject even hearing any argument or reasoning counter to their meme. It would certainly explain the actions of certain relatives, who won’t even discuss, let alone argue, any non-leftist ideas, although (somewhat) rational in other life.
Your ideas need development and, most important, some empirical and scientific grounding. I would be delighted to see you support this with further speculation or analysis.l
Westman says
Ronald,
There is tremendous disagreement among Muslim variants about music, most viewing it as Haraam. However the general notion that music can program the mind appears prevalent among Muslims. Here is an example:
http://www.inter-islam.org/Prohibitions/Mansy_music.htm
“We find that the whole world is obsessed with the kufr idea of freedom, i.e. freedom of speech, freedom of movement, etc. In modern schools and universities, we observe independence, free expression and secular thinking being encouraged. This idea of freedom, “ It`s my life, I`ll do what I want” is a predominant, underlying theme of today`s music. *** It is being used as a means for drilling those modern ideologies that are totally contrary to Islamic Shariah and values, into the minds of Muslims*** . ”
*** added to highlight sentence
The only problem I see with possibly establishing the memes as a programming is that it would apply to all ideologies that are strongly indoctrinated. What of communism, religion, patriotism, etc, would simply be determined by indoctrinating at an early age? Does this generally crush free will?
Linde Barrera says
To Westman: OMG. You made very astute comments about music, memes, and repetition, and how they coordinate with Islam and the brain. I believe you hypothsized a definitive explanation for how individuals become “The Walking Dead”. You are on a roll! Thank you so much. I am impressed.
Westman says
Thanks, Linde.
I’m also now concerned that the old addage, “Repetition brings conviction”, may be more true than we ever imagined.
Wellington says
Echoing others, RonaldB, your analysis is absolutely first rate. It’s worth reading several times over. Simply excellent.
Westman says
The most amusing part of the screed written in the boat hull, as shown by the media with bullet ridden text replaced by (hole):
“He who Allah guides, no one can misguide A (hole) bar!”
Galen Muhammad says
With Robert Spencer and his ilk, you should demand the chronology of the comments. I’d like to know WHEN the mother defended her son.
Was it BEFORE or AFTER the facts were revealed?
Of course, Spencer and his ilk misportray the misdeeds of Muslims as “Islamic“, but overlook the good deeds done by a vast majority of Muslims, claiming outside and unrelated influences to their behavior for said good deeds.
Lu says
Man, you should discuss Robert Spencer – he would demolish your arguments in less than 5 minutes. Please go trolling somewhere else … we here do know WHAT Islam is.
terry says
“And that’s the point. Violence and intolerance against non-Muslims is not limited to “terrorist” organizations like the Islamic State. It’s a product of Islam’s core teachings as found in the Koran and Sunna, or example, of Muhammad. Even the aforementioned stipulations for the Samalout church to have no crosses, narrow side door, etc., are a product of Islamic documents, in this case, “The Conditions of Omar.”
This hostility for and persecution of Christians is of course evident among “terrorist” organizations like the Islamic State, Boko Haram, etc. But it’s also evident among Muslim governments, Muslim police, and the Muslim populace. The reason is that it’s evident in Islam. We can continue playing games, euphemizing, white washing, invoking “grievances,” and so on, but in the end, it is the Koran, it is Muhammad, it is Sharia—in a word, it is Islam.
And it is a testimony to the blindness of the West that a thing so self-evident, so obvious, so well-documented—for nearly 1,400 years—is still, nonetheless, so difficult to acknowledge.”
I quoted the above, especially for you, Muhammad. For the whole article about the presumed innocence of your religion, click here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/raymond-ibrahim-easter-under-islam-churches-under-attack
RonaldB says
“I quoted the above, especially for you, Muhammad. For the whole article about the presumed innocence of your religion, click here:”
To terry:
Galen Muhammad is long gone. The Muslim trolls very seldom actually debate an issue. They simply drop their statement and leave. Even the ones who respond very seldom address the point at hand, but more or less cut and paste ideas.
Islam does not encourage any real examination or debate, because objective debate implies that you go with the evidence or with truth, and that Muslims are not prepared to do. A very common attribute of the Muslim side-branches like the Ahmadiyya or Baha’i is that thought and expression are rigidly controlled.
Galen Muhammad termed Islam as “peaceful submission”. The “peaceful” part is pure taqiya, as several comments have pointed out, but he’s right on with “submission”. Islam is indeed submission of your logic, your reasoning, your intelligence, and your conscience.
Don McKellar says
Galen Muhammad,
Wow, are YOU ever on the wrong website! You’ve just stepped into a place where the filthy kufar and infidels know everything there is to know about moslem lying and deception, taqiyya and kitman, and know all about the Islamic texts!
You should turn around and start running before you get your ass handed to you!
The Don
TediNeo98 says
My thoughts exactly Don.
Mirren10 says
Galen muhammed says:
” I’d like to know WHEN the mother defended her son.
Was it BEFORE or AFTER the facts were revealed?”
Having read the article, I note it clearly says;
**Reacting to the verdict**, Dzhokar’s mother Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, in a note sent to a family friend, reiterated that her son was innocent while America was “the terrorist”, reported the Vocativ.
” … the good deeds done by a vast majority of Muslims, claiming outside and unrelated influences to their behavior for said good deeds.”
Would you care to post some **evidence** of these ‘good deeds’ (done, not to fellow mohammedans, but us kufr), and not just your unsupported assertion ?
”RonaldB obviously knows little to nothing about Islam.”
Unfortunately for you, RonaldB, and most of the commenters here, know a **great deal** about your foul religion. You’re wasting your time trying to fool us.
islam means **submission** and the word ”peaceful” is not there.
Do you deny your vile ‘prophet’ said, ”I have been made victorious by terror” ?
terry says
“misdeeds of Muslims as “Islamic“, but overlook the good deeds done by a vast majority of Muslims,”
Muhammad, that’s going back to the same, cheap, stupid and misleading argument!
Who is first misled by this type of argument? YOU! All facts are there, In the Quran, Hadiths and Sunnah and kind of uniformity of their results throughout the Islamic world, from Maghreb countries, Lybia, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, Mali, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Indonesia and every other inhabited stretch in between. Unfortunately we’re starting to see the same here in the west, wherever Muslims reach a certain threshold in their numbers. Nothing is invented by “Robert Spencer or his Ilk”.
Indeed, a very wise man, around two thousands years ago, in essence said that from their fruits you get to know them; any tree producing bad and poisonous tree will be cut and thrown in eternal destruction!
Amen..
t says
In the last paragraph of my above comment, it should read “producing bad and poisonous fruits” not “poisonous tree”
terry says
In my comment above, it should read “…and poisonous fruits” instead of “…poisonous tree”
somehistory says
Jesus did say that “rotten trees produce rotten fruit”.
But your “error’ in quoting could still said to be true:\; she and her husband produced a couple of rotten *trees* too. Psalm 128:3 likens sons to “young olive trees.”
terry says
Thanks, somehistory!
Mo says
@ Galen Muhammad
“Of course, Spencer and his ilk misportray the misdeeds of Muslims as “Islamic“, but overlook the good deeds done by a vast majority of Muslims, claiming outside and unrelated influences to their behavior for said good deeds.”
Boy, did you come to the wrong website.
Provide the evidence of where “Spencer and his ilk” misportray(ed) the misdeeds of Muslims as “Islamic””.
You know you won’t respond with this evidence. You KNOW it.
Be gone, troll. We know what your death cult teaches. And we will NOT submit to it.
gravenimage says
The ludicrously self-styled “Galen Muhammad” wrote:
With Robert Spencer and his ilk, you should demand the chronology of the comments. I’d like to know WHEN the mother defended her son.
Was it BEFORE or AFTER the facts were revealed?
……………
Is this Mohammedan incapable of reading? The ZeeNews article spells this out:
“Reacting to the verdict, Dzhokar’s mother Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, in a note sent to a family friend, reiterated that her son was innocent while America was ‘the terrorist’, reported the Vocativ.”
Moreover, this Jihadist’s mother has also claimed that the entire atrocity was faked, with paint used for blood. The idea that she would then be swayed by any evidence is pretty iffy.
More:
Of course, Spencer and his ilk misportray the misdeeds of Muslims as “Islamic“, but overlook the good deeds done by a vast majority of Muslims, claiming outside and unrelated influences to their behavior for said good deeds.
……………
It is not Spencer, but Muslims themselves who portray Jihad terror as Islamic, and do so with reference to the Qur’an and Hadith and model of the “Prophet” himself.
Moreover—and “Galen Muhammad” will not tell you this—Islam does not consider murdering in the cause of Islam to be “misdeeds” at all.
In fact, such atrocities are specifically considered “good deeds” for pious Muslims.
Lu says
Hmm … mother is an American citizen if I am not mistaken. She got refugee visa, permanent residency and citizenship after that.
Now spitting hatred on the country whose citizen she still is.
If so, what a specimen! I know several “Americans” like her. The only American is their passport …
michaelwarden says
We have people like this in the UK. Always described by the media as ” British “, the only thing British about them is their Passport.
Lu says
How sad and outrageous at the same time. Those people like her pledged the support and allegiance to their new country:
“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all” (1942 version)
and betrayed her in the worst possible way. I have just utter disdain for Tsarnayev’s mother …
Galen Muhammad says
RonaldB obviously knows little to nothing about Islam.
He manufactures Islam’s goal, but doesn’t even know that Islam is the “peaceful submission to God“. That fact, alone, disqualifies any rant he gives against Islam and/or Muslims.
michaelwarden says
As someone once said : ” The only thing I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11 “.
terry says
Muhammad,
The results that Islam produces disqualifies any rant Muslims like you give against any people like Robert Spencer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, I.Q. Al Rassouli, Wafaa Sultan and all of us who know the true nature of Islam and try to expose it!!
It’s not a game of words, show the world real results or f*ck off.
Pam says
This woman is shameless. An apology.. maybe. Then again, look at the offspring this woman raised. Enough said.
mariam rove says
With your last name it seems to me you are from one of the following S…holes:
Afghanistan
Bangladesh or Pakistan. That said Robert wrote the book on Islam. I was born and raised a Muslim and what I forgot about Islam and your pedophile prophet you don’t even know. In the last 2 centuries Muslims have contributed two things to the world:
1- Nothing
2- Murdering spree. Let’s get real. m
Linde Barrera says
To Galen Muhammad: So what you are explicitly implying is this: “My belief system is built upon doctrine that says I am honor bound, and duty-bound to exterminate anyone who does not believe what this doctrine states”. Sounds like murder to me. And even though Islamists claim that Islam is “peaceful submission to Allah”, there are others who give their “peaceful submission” to Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, by using the free will Creator God gave to help, not hurt and exterminate humanity. Just remember 1 thing: Water has 3 states of matter but it is still the same substance of water. The God of Christians is 1 God with 3 manifestations. Before Jesus left his disciples for the last time, He said “I will send you the Holy Spirit and He will be with you and live in you.” Jesus did not say “I will send you a messenger” as Islamists like to misquote Him. Thank you for reading my message.
Westman says
Galen,
Really? Where are your compassionate missionaries to bring water and sustainability to unbelivers? Where is the good that Islam has done for NON-muslims? Where are your automobiles, aircraft, technology, current novelists, great classical music composers, artists, etc. How do you stack up against the “worst of people”?
Yes, I know Iran does some of these things because they took in Western education under the Shah, before the revolution, and are miles ahead of the Arab Muslims.
You all have the same Sunnah, so, if you are a Western muslim, how do you view the ME Muslims, with acceptance, charity, revulsion, or misguided. Are they Muslims in your view or are they jahiliyah?
Where is your central authority for a chameleon theology that has multiple interpretations and generates war between muslim countries?
Do you accept Al-Azhar University as the authority? Why or why not? Which is the true religion, Shia, Sunni, or Baha’i?
Do you know that the Qur’an is ordered by length and not chronology? Since you are so concerned about historical order, you should know that Surah 9, the sword verse, was one of the last and abrogates the kindnesses that Muhammad felt for unbelievers before being driven from Mekkah. The Medinah verses are not so nice.
ISIS quotes the Qur’an and Hadiths so you can’t deny that the Sunnah allows things with which you might personally disagree. That’s unfortunate, but it is in the doctorine and you’ll have to live with it.
Muhammad was a man who sponged off his first wife while having trance-visions after reaching his 40’s. He generated a theology that is so confused that the opinions of “Islamic Scholars” cause innocents to be killed and muslim nations to war for supremacy. Did you bother to read the Hadiths where Muhammad orders the murder of a few poets and singers? Or the hadith where he said that lying was ok in order to murder a man?
Tell us more about the Jinns, those disembodied “people” that are everywhere and inspired the term, “Genie”. Where can we see or talk to one of these genies?
Muhammad and the Sunnah state quite clearly that the earth belongs to Muslims, the Jews are to be annihilated, and Islam is to overthrow every non-muslim government and every religion.
Dzhokar sealed his fate with: “As a Muslim I can’t stand to see such evil go unpunished, we Muslims are one body, you hurt one you hurt us all. Well at least that’s how muhhammad (pbuh) wanted it to be [for]ever, the ummah is beginning to rise/[UI] has awoken the mujahideen, know you are fighting men who look into the barrel of your gun and see heaven, now how can you compete with that. We are promised victory and we will surely get it.” “I ask Allah to make me a shahied (martyr)..” The court is likely to go along with Allah and grant his wish.
Now, Galen, where did he get the idea that Muslims were promised “victory” and what does victory mean in this context?
Islam is like the Greek myth figure Sisyphus, except it keeps rolling society downhill until the Infidels get fed up and knock it back.
You came to the wrong place for sympathy – the actual results of Islam destroy and degrade societies so consistently that only an unobservant person could ever call it a religion of peace.
Linde Barrera says
To Westman: Your truthfulness about Islam and it’s prophet is awesome. Thank you for speaking out and calling out this “Death Cult” a/k/a “The Religion of Peace”.
godless9383 says
Taqiyya
Mo says
@ Galen Muhammad
“He manufactures Islam’s goal, ”
What RonaldB said about Islam’s goal was: “Islam has only one goal: to spread itself.” Can you tell me what about this statement is “manufactured”? Can you tell me what about this goal is incorrect according to Islamic teaching?
“but doesn’t even know that Islam is the “peaceful submission to God“.”
Can you tell me where Islam teaches anything about “peaceful” submission to God? Islam means SUBMISSION. It says nothing about it being PEACEFUL.
Can you show me what is peaceful about people having their throats slit, or being shot, or being blown up, for refusing to submit to Islam?
Answer the questions I have asked you. Provide the evidence I have requested.
(You know you will not!)
gravenimage says
Galen Muhammad wrote:
RonaldB obviously knows little to nothing about Islam.
He manufactures Islam’s goal, but doesn’t even know that Islam is the “peaceful submission to God“. That fact, alone, disqualifies any rant he gives against Islam and/or Muslims.
………………..
Notice that “Galen Muhammad” doesn’t say how these “peaceful” Muslims are capable of over 25,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11. Perhaps he should lecture his coreligionists, rather than the good Infidels here at Jihad Watch?
Of course, he just threw in the “peaceful” adjective. Islam means “submission”, period.
Edward says
“The terrorists are the Americans and everyone knows it. My son is the best of the best” – Dzhokar’s mother Zubeidat Tsarnaeva
“They never bear any responsibility for any of the atrocities they commit. It is always the Infidel’s fault. – Robert Spencer
Their usual mantra…..
Blaming/denial bipolar manic episodes! The medical profession has documented that the following behaviors have been caused by:
Genetic, Physiological, Environmental, Neurological, Neuroendocrinological or Evolutionary
If their behavior is caused by an evolutionary process it would understandable. Hell, these wayward people have been at it for over 1400 years. What is needed is another ‘Great Deluge” again. A selective one to cleanse the right demographic area that is! Or….perhaps expect the same for us…if we don’t clean our act! Our Nation’s overall moral behaviors? Something to ponder about, huh 🙁
I sincerely hate to think about it….but, is this is why Dzhokar’s mother says we are the terrorist?
Edward says
a typo error: “their behavior is caused by an evolutionary process it would [be]understandable.” Sorry!
Mirren10 says
” Our Nation’s overall moral behaviors? Something to ponder about, huh 🙁
I sincerely hate to think about it….but, is this is why Dzhokar’s mother says we are the terrorist ?”
Whilst you’re ‘pondering’, ponder on the fact that whatever may be America’s, and the West’s, shortcomings, they don’t include bombing marathons, flying planes into buildings, beheading and crucifying people, throwing acid into women’s faces, or any of the horrific acts perpetrated by muslims, *every day*.
Your feeble attempt at moral equivalence is wretched.
gravenimage says
Absolutely, Mirren.
Don McKellar says
Has that picture of her been photoshopped? Her skin is more of a green in colour than what we see above…
Mirren10 says
” Her skin is more of a green in colour than what we see above … ”
You’re a wicked greenist. 🙂
David wilson says
This is what happens when you have to share your hubby with ten other women, you get a bit snarly.
godless9383 says
Why did Spencer say it would have been surprising if she had said anything else? Muslim families of Muslims who have been violent in the name of Islam or have gone to join ISIS are always pretending to be surprised.
Monticol says
May her son’s 72 virgins look exactly like herself.
Bubble says
The mother lives here in the states RIGHT? If she lives here she is also taking our money in the form of welfare. We are paying her to live here and she lives with, as she calls us, terrorists. SO, my question would be, WHY IN THE HECK IS SHE HERE? WHY WOULD SHE WANT TO LIVE HERE HATING EVERYTHING ABOUT US?
somehistory says
She and her family did come…to claim they were persecuted in their home country and get on welfare. But then when her sons committed the terrorism, she and husband fled back to their home country.
Buraq says
I’ll bet the members of the jury will be targeted by jihadists if their decision leads to the death penalty for this clown! Just wait and see.
Transmaster says
“peaceful submission to God“ Galen Muhammad is this what happened to the 1,700 Iraqi soldiers from Camp Speicher who where Shi’a Muslim the Sunni ISIS butchered and dumped into a mass grave outside of Tikrit. It seems to me there is a syntax error in the “peaceful submission to God”: it should be “The submission of pieces to God” as in decapitated heads, chopped off hands, homicide bomb ground meat, Car bomb pot roast. Child Kaboom bob; etc.
Anna says
She looks really scary. Not a “PC ” thing to say I know, but she looks to me like a witch in the childhood pictures I had of Hans Christian Anderson fairy tales.
“Beauty ” always comes from within, in the eyes, the mirror of the soul. She just looks nasty bitter and twisted.
Which is exactly what she is. Totally twisted in everything.
We have to ask ourselves exactly how many more ” moderate muslims” ( as they were described before the bombings) mostly on welfare are there like this family? Very disturbing.
Walter Sieruk says
The Muslim mother in this article shows that she must be a vicious and sick as her sons. The above picture of her face shows that Islam is not religion of violence and killing but also a religion of hate.
pongidae rex says
By what suicidal political travesty were these people admitted to the USA, and by what suicidal travesty do they remain?
Larry F says
You all know she raised her son to be what he did from early childhood. She should be tried as an Accomplice for Treason against the United States for aiding and abbetting.
Neil Jennison says
Is his mother saying that her son is innocent – in that he didn’t do it and there has been a miscarriage of justice? Or is she saying he is “innocent” because he was doing the will of Allah?
Many parents’ of murderers refuse to believe their offspring are guilty…..it must be a hard thing to accept for a parent.
But it does make a difference……..if she has deluded herself her son is innocent…….she may well consider the country that “falsely” (in her mind) convicted her son to be the real terrorists. If it is the latter, then the article is entirely valid.
I just raise the question…here in the UK we don’t hear much about the follow up to these Islamic atrocities.
Thomas Paine says
The whole damned event was a fraud. Thinking people can see it.
gravenimage says
“Thomas Paine” wrote:
The whole damned event was a fraud. Thinking people can see it.
…………………………..
Are you serious? Given that the Boston Marathon is such a widely popular race, this event was already being covered by dozens of professional media outlets, as well as the thousands of ordinary people carrying cameras and video recorders, and then the footage from all the security cameras along the route.
This bombing was, in fact, one of the most amply chronicled atrocities in history.
mariam rove says
Everyone here notice that Gelan Muhamad after 2 posts is MIA!!!m
Champ says
Imagine praising a son who murdered people, including an eight-year-old boy in a horrific manner, for the crime of being American and watching a footrace. But this reaction is not surprising. Islamic supremacists always blame their victims. They never bear any responsibility for any of the atrocities they commit. It is always the Infidel’s fault. This is so common, so unanimous a reaction that no one should be in the least surprised by what Zubeidat Tsarnaeva says here. It would have been surprising if she had said anything else. — Robert Spencer
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How true, Robert!! …without exception this psychopathology is what I’ve observed from mohammedans over the years, as well.
Edward says
“Whilst you’re ‘pondering’, ponder on the fact that whatever may be America’s, and the West’s, shortcomings […and the rest]”
Thanks for the critique Mirren10. I’ll consider your thoughts as a benchmark, but America ranks in a higher moral values plane than those barbarians. For if America would have the propensity to act like in the Jihad’s who causes atrocities we and them would be in ashes at the same time. Not by the results of a war but because of our Creator’s possible retribution when He is displeased. Historically, evidence has shown that events like this has happened. His patience is the reason we have been spared from of our demise because we have not reached the same degree of malevolence and/or malignity as the Islamic world. However, since we are now racing to that tipping point, i.e. abortions, euthanasia and social aberration trending other known wrong leanings we might come to that possible end.
Mirren 10, look it this way….say you were recently hired and you had to sustain your productivity you would have to go through a probation period to qualify right.
America and Israel nations have the best chance to survive; if we the stop the secular progression and Israel if it resets its clock back 2014 years when the Advent of the arrival of the Messiah (Jesus Christ) took place. Both Nations are in a probationary period. If nothing is done to correct our errors we will continue to experience trials and tribulations chaos as both nations have seen! Saying again, that this the way God hints us when He is displeased. You, others and myself have seen or felt these speed bumps in our lives now and in the past haven’t we!
Simply said, here’s the hallmarks of our possible chances of human survival:
Matthew 10:
32 ‘So if anyone declares himself for me in the presence of human beings, I will declare myself for him in the presence of my Father in heaven.
33 But the one who disowns me in the presence of human beings, I will disown in the presence of my Father in heaven.
Here our Redeemer warns us of this eventuality of temporarily loosing His Blessing and His Graces. These losses depend on our depleting human behavioral ranking by which results in our increases of personal trials and tribulations.
and
Nor curse the Holy Spirit! Matthew 12:31-32 The Unpardonable Sin
31″Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32″Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Mirren10 says
You are being thoroughly disengenuous.
Your previous post opined that this evil bitch was correct in stating that America Iis a terrorist nation. Your ‘rationale’ for such idiocy is because abortion is legal.
I abhor abortion, myself, although I can see how it would be necessary/advisable in certain cases. The fact that abortion is legal in no way makes America a terrorist – I suggest you look up the meaning of the word.
You then go on to reference euthanasia. I have no idea whether euthanasia is legal in the US, but again, helping someone to die who has an incurable illness, and is suffering terrible pain, is not the act of a terrorist.
I don’t know what you consider to be ‘social aberrations’, I’ll assume you mean homosexuality. If that *is* what you mean, I suggest you ‘ponder’ on the fact that whether or not you consider homosexuality to be a sin, no homosexual is going to murder you because you are heterosexual.
Edward says
Mirren, you speak as a temporal secularist thinks and I abide accordingly to what our Creator asks for our end cause and beyond!
Suzanne Nigro says
WOW…i thought the brother was a strong influence…..apparently the conditioning of their belief system runs deep in the family…it shows you how your environment and the influences within it can thoroughly shape your life, thought process and beliefs…they desperately need to awaken from their delusion and corrupt way of thinking…this is the frustrating part, as how do you awaken people who are cemented in their upbringing wrapped in generations of tragic and heartless ideas….and how about skin heads, racist (just another example)… this is why we have to continue to pray for World Peace….Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
voegelinian says
“WOW…i thought the brother was a strong influence…..apparently the conditioning of their belief system runs deep in the family…”
Welcome to Jihad Watch. You might want to spend some time plowing through the mountain of data from Jihad Watch archives going back over 10 years, indicating that the murderous hatred of us runs deep throughout Muslim societies.
mortimer says
So what did she expect him to get? The Congressional Medal of Honor?
JP says
Execute him! Send the appropriate message.
Jules says
Let him spend the rest of his life in prison, getting reamed and beaten on a regular basis. He probably won’t last long.
Ben says
Televise it–on pay per view, and give a portion of the revenue to the families of the victims.
Lucas Mercep says
The apple doesn’t fall far from the demented tree.
traci94 says
He probably wants the death penalty so he can be with his 72 virgins, therefore I think he should be in a solitary cell for the rest of his life. It might be more of a punishment than death.
Jules says
No, not solitary. Let him loose in the general population and see how long he lasts. Some lifer will get him.
Wellington says
This woman is evil. A truly disgusting human being. And it should definitely not be overlooked that the root cause of her wickedness is Islam, which is a monstrosity that makes all other monstrosities look like the junior varsity.
With Islam, mankind is faced with the most obdurate, sly, influential and pervasive evil of all time. Bar none.
Nina Eckhoff says
Islam is a religion of peace. These young men and their mother are terrorists. There IS a difference! With your sharing of mis-information, you perpetrate spreading a lie, and that undermines peace, truth, and love. Is that what you want to do? Please change. Do your research. Be prepared to accept that you are wrong. And be big enough to admit that you made a mistake. Then, move on, in truth. I am a Christian, a Presbyterian, but I am much more a believer in peace and God. God bless you and peace be with you.
Peggy says
Wow, are you serious? Islam is a religion of peace? Since when?
How much do you know about Islam? Do you just repeat what the PC brigade tells you or have you actually researched Islam yourself?
Maybe it’s you who should get a bit of education on this subject. How much more proof do you need than what is going on around you? All the terrorists and clerics invoke the Quran when they do their evil deeds. Why do you think that is? Interesting how all that convert to Islam become terrorists. Who is teaching them all the wrong things about Islam?
Mo says
@ Nina Eckhoff
“Islam is a religion of peace.”
Can you tell me when you read the Koran to come to this conclusion?
These young men and their mother are terrorists. There IS a difference! With your sharing of mis-information,
Provide the “mis-information” in this post.
“you perpetrate spreading a lie, and that undermines peace, truth, and love.”
Provide the lies in this post. Get lost with your victim blaming. Got that?
“Is that what you want to do?”
Take your guilt tripping elsewhere. It will not work here. Do you understand me?
“Please change.”
You do not tell us what to do. Do you hear me? We will not bow to your bullying.
” Do your research. ”
You’re an arrogant one, aren’t you? Provide the evidence I requested. Then we’ll see who’s doing what research.
“Be prepared to accept that you are wrong.”
Provide the evidence for what is “wrong” in this post.
“And be big enough to admit that you made a mistake.”
You arrogant creature. Don’t you dare condescend to us.
” Then, move on, in truth. I am a Christian, a Presbyterian,”
What nonsense. A follower of Christ does not promote an explicitly anti-Christian religion. Nor does a follower of Christ make false accusations like this.
That’s as much of your ridiculous comment as I had the stomach to read.
Now, PROVIDE YOUR EVIDENCE.
Jules says
Hahaha, Mo, you’re so funny! LOL
voegelinian says
Well, I guess we can all pack up and go home now! Nina Eckhoff the Presbyterian claims, without a shred of evidence, that Islam is a religion of peace! That settles that!
Et fucking cetera…
gravenimage says
Nina Eckhoff wrote;
Islam is a religion of peace.
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You say, “do your research”—what research have you done that would lead you to believe that the sanguinary horror of Islam is “peaceful”, in any of its texts or tenets or the model of the baleful “Prophet”?
Over 25,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11—all in the name of Islam—shows the fallacy of this wishful thinking.
Champ says
Nina,
islam is NOT a ‘religion of peace’; and as a Christian you ought to know better. I am a Christian, and I make a point of studying *why* Jesus Christ is the Way! …and why islam certainly is NOT. Please do some comparitive research on the key differences between Jesus & muhammad. The striking differences are numerous.
YOU are the one that needs to do her own research about islam and company–by first reading the quran and other islamic texts. The truth is out there. Don’t be so lazy and/or gullible and then attempt to school us, here on JW, regarding the so-called “truth” you offer about islam and company. Or don’t, and remain dangerous and ignorant. Your choice.
Mirren10 says
I doubt ‘nina’ is in fact a Christian. Or, if she is, she’s a proponent of ‘chrislam’.
Hope you’re well, champski. X
Jay Airahs says
Here is a poem of for Nina
Can’t we all just learn to accept one another and Coexist.
—- The lead character is an open minded woman.
Wow! Tonight I am the guest of honor.
The crowd is restless. Everyone is hoping to find just the right spot.
So much energy and excitement, I can feel it in my bones.
Look at everyone circle in such anticipation.
The spirit is so infectious, my skin tingles
I can hardly believe, all that is about to come over me.
I am dressed head to toe in proper modest white for the occasion.
No alcohol is allowed, This is a celebration.
No one will get wasted. No one will get stoned.
This is a religious celebration, nothing broken or out of place,
“Everybody chant, chant, chant and circle, gather around.”
Everyone is proper, nobody stumbles, and each one takes careful aim.
Tonight they will practice their ritual before a great pilgrimage.
The Hajj will circle the black stone that represents the life within their souls.
“Everybody chant, chant, chant and circle, gather around.”
It’s such an honor to be around those so proud of their Muslim faith.
Listen to the crowd’s loud shouts of “God is great”
Defenders of God’s honor need not grace.
It’s such an honor to be the very center of their attention, “the guest of honor.”
“Everybody chant, chant, chant and circle, gather around.”
The Imam seems so happy to have me here today.
He looks so pleased. I can tell, I am just what he needs.
Defenders of God’s honor are so full of faith, so intensely full of it.
Today we all coexist and celebrate.
Yet, I can’t help but wonder why everyone has a stone.
It is suddenly so quiet.
I am so happy to be chosen as their “guest of honor”, I’ve just got to sing.
“Come on everyone loosen up a little”
There is a party going on right here, a celebration to last throughout the year
Celebrate good times come on… Celebrate good times come on
cause everything’s going to be alright
It’s time to come together, let’s celebrate, everyone around the world
Come on…It’s a celebration
Yahoo!…Yahoo
Jay Airahs says
Oops wrong copy (work in progress)
Tonight I am the guest of honor.
I feel excitement deep in my bones.
Everyone circles deep in thought.
The crowd is restless hoping to find just the right spot.
I am dressed head to toe in proper modest white.
The spirit is so infectious here tonight.
No alcohol because this is a religious celebration.
Nothing is to be broken on this occasion.
No one will get wasted. No one will get stoned.
“Everybody chant, until I moan.”
No one stumbles; each takes careful aim.
Tonight they will practice their ritual pilgrimage game.
The black stone represents the light within their souls.
It’s such an honor to respect their Muslim faith.
Listen as the crowd shouts “God is great”
Defenders of God’s honor need not have grace.
Don’t let me forget to mention.
I am so proud to be the center of their attention.
The Imam is thrilled to see me here today.
He looks so pleased. I can tell, I am just what he needs.
Defenders of God’s honor are so full of faith, so intensely full of it.
Today we all coexist and celebrate.
Why everyone is holding a stone.
I would go to ask, but I am a little tied up.
Loosen up enjoy the fling.
I am so happy, I’ve just got to sing.
There is a party going on right here, a celebration to last throughout the year
Celebrate good times come on… Celebrate good times come on
cause everything’s going to be alright
It’s time to come together, let’s celebrate, everyone around the world
Come on…It’s a celebration
Yahoo!…Yahoo
Linde Barrera says
To Jay Airahs: I am more of a non-fiction person, but your poem was frightening and creepy. (I hope this was your intent!)
Jay Airahs says
Hi Linde
Actually it is just bad poetry (and creepy)
It was an early version I dug up from a long time ago that I had revised a few times
I wish I had filed things better
I should have read it through before posting.
It is about a coexist fanatic that won’t face reality.
I think the following is my latest version below
Somewhat better, I hope
———————
COEXIST PARTY
Tonight I am the special guest of honor, up here all alone.
I feel such excitement so deep within my bones.
The religious spirit is very infectious here tonight.
With reverence, I am dressed in my spotless modest white.
Everyone circles around with but a single thought.
The crowd is so restless, each hoping to find just the right spot.
Nothing will be broken on this special occasion.
Tonight is alcohol free; it’s a sacred celebration.
No one will get wasted. No one will get stoned.
Everybody will chant, until I can’t help but moan.
Tonight I will share in their old ritual game.
No one will stumble; each will take careful aim.
All will focus on one target; that is their ritual’s goal.
This is for their religion, or so I am told.
The black stone represents the light within their souls.
It is such a great privilege; I can’t even begin to mention.
I am so proud to be the center of their undivided attention.
I am extra lucky to have been chosen to share in their faith.
Listen at how the crowd shouts their “god is so great.”
Defenders of Allah’s honor need not have humility or even grace.
Why does the imam clutch that book so tight?
The poor man can barely contain his delight.
Such religious leaders are so full of faith.
So full of it, that they even say we can coexist and celebrate.
Let’s all join together and enjoy this ceremonial fling.
I am so happy that I’ve just got to sing.
There is a party going on right here, a celebration to last throughout the year
Celebrate good times come on… Celebrate good times come on
cause everything’s going to be alright
It’s time to come together, let’s celebrate, everyone around the world
Yahoo! ♬
But, why is everyone now holding a stone?
I would go to ask, but I am a little tied up here in the center alone.
Ouch that hurts. Gosh that stings.
But, yet I am so happy to coexist that I can’t help but sing.
Come on…It’s a celebration
Yahoo!…Yahoo ♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
Linde Barrera says
To Jay Airahs: I think your latest poetic version is much better because of the rhyme. But I think you can fix the ending to make it more horrifying so that the coexister (and reader) realizes it is him/her being killed. I would like to respectfully dub you, Jay, as “The Edgar Allan Poe” of Jihad Watch!
Jay Airahs says
Thanks Linde
Every time I relook at a poem I end up re-tweaking something.
The ‘Celebrate’ song reference I used is from an old sixties American band called Kool and the Gang, if I remember correctly. I was attempting a humorous ending as a contrast and to soften the horror a bit and to put focus on the naivety of those who believe that coexist is possible. You are correct that I need to bring out the horror aspect. I tried to lead into a surprise ending but with humor as a contrast the horror gets a bit lost.
I wrote another poem about a woman in Iran who faced stoning with a more serious tone about stoning called (Veil of Airahs) I think I put that one back in the shop for rework.
If you like Edgar Allen Poe I wrote yet another poem about religious intolerance but be forewarned that one is very creepy and you might not want to read it before bedtime.
It is called (Sacrifice Lost)
I will take another look see at both of these other poems soon.
Champ says
ps Nina,
Here’s a book you ought to read and stat written by Robert Spencer:
“Religion of Peace?: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t”
Christianity or Islam: which is the real “religion of peace”?
Almost any liberal pundit will tell you that there’s a religion bent on destroying our Constitution, stripping us of our liberties, and imposing religious rule on the U.S. And that religion is . . .Christianity! About Islam, however, the Left is silent–except to claim a moral equivalence between the two: if Islam has terrorists today, that’s nothing compared to the Crusades, inquisitions, and religious wars in Christianity’s past.
But is this true? Are conservative Christians really more of a threat to free societies than Islamic jihadists? Is the Bible really “just as violent” as the Qur’an? Is Christianity’s history really as bloodstained as Islam’s? In Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t, New York Times bestselling author Robert Spencer not only refutes such charges, but also explains why Americans and Europeans must regain an appreciation of our Christian heritage if we ever hope to defeat Islamic supremacism. In this eye opening work, Spencer reveals:
* The fundamental differences between Islamic and Christian teachings about warfare against other religions: “Love your enemies” vs. “Be ruthless to the unbelievers”
* The myth of Western immorality and Islamic puritanism and why the Islamic world is less moral than the West
* Why the Islamic world has never developed the distinction between religious and secular law that is inherent in Christianity
* Why Christianity has always embraced reason–and Islam has always rejected it
* Why the most determined enemies of Western civilization may not be the jihadists at all, but the leftists who fear their churchgoing neighbors more than Islamic terrorists
* Why Jews, Christians, and peoples of other faiths (or no faith) are equally at risk from militant Islam
Spencer writes not to proselytize, but to state a fact: Christianity is a true “religion of peace,” and on it Western civilization stands. If we are not to perish under Islam’s religion of the sword–with its more than 100 million active jihadists seeking to impose sharia law–we had better defend our own civilization.
http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Peace-Christianity-Islam-Isnt/dp/1596985151
gravenimage says
Glad to hear it, Susan. I am also liberal on quite a few issues. The question is why so many—not all, certainly—liberals give Islam a pass, since it is the most illiberal creed imaginable.
David says
If she was born overseas,then that’s probably the best place for her❗
Wellington says
You simply don’t know what you’re talking about, Nina. Are you aware that Mohammed (who is really an anti-Jesus) himself said, “I have been made victorious with terror.” {Bukhari Hadith 4.52.220} Right in the Koran there is verse after verse which is replete with hatred for the unbeliever and with instructon to use force against the unbeliever (e.g., Sura 98:6 and Sura 9:5). And unlike the Bible which is often only descriptive, the Koran is always prescriptive. Truly, Nina, your naivety and ignorance are stunning. Wake up. BTW, did you know that according to the Islamic faith Jesus is one of the greater Muslim prophets before Mohammed and that he will come back at the end of the world and throw Christians into Hell for deifying Him? Learn, Nina, before you embarrass yourself again.
Pamela says
I cannot get over the physical resemblance to The Wicked Witch of The West in “The Wizard of Oz!” Doesn’t she realize that the witch melts away to nothing….all thru the innocent throwing of a bucket of water by Dorothy as she attempts to put out a fire and the slashing water hits the witch, proving to be deadly! Hey Dorothy…you got an extra bucket of water?…i know of someone who definitely needs her fire put out!!!!
Janet says
Pamela
That is exactly what I thought. The resemblance is uncanny. From the Wizard of Oz no less and absolutely evil.
Jules says
Oh wow, THAT’S where i’ve seen her before. Just click your heels together 3 times and throw some water on that hag!
Larry A. Singleton says
“I cannot get over the physical resemblance to The Wicked Witch of The West in ‘The Wizard of Oz!'”
Man! I had JUST written the following when I scrolled up to look at the picture again and saw your comment.
At first I thought the picture was from a movie clip of the Wicked Witch of the West from the Wizard of Oz.
gravenimage says
I dress up as the Wicked Witch every Hallowe’en, with spooky music and decorations on the porch. I also do parades and pumpkin festivals. I have a mean cackle that can scare big teenage boys, even though I’m only 5’1″.
But this is all in good fun. After the scare, I hand out lots of really good candy.
Not so with mommy dearest here—she is a witch in the true sense of the word…
Wellington says
Agreed, gravenimage, about this loathsome witch of a mother. She is pure evil.
On a related, though far more benign note, I would consider it a privilege to see you as the Wicked Witch (hey, isn’t Margaret Hamilton’s perfomance in The Wizard of Oz simply outstanding?). It would surely be a Kodak moment.
Take care, my friend.
Ashley says
Has it ever been established that Zubeidat Tsarnaeva was clueless regarding her sons’ activities prior to the bombings?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/mother-boston-bomb-suspects-insists-sons-innocent-article-1.1329983
abad says
Dear Zubeidat Tsarnaeva:
Your sons Zohak and Tamerlane were NOT the cancer curers that you thought they were.
Thank you for leaving the USA.
Jay Airahs says
Dzhokhar’s — mom’s kitchen is a bomb factory.
R Manzitto-Collings says
She is an enemy–her children our enemy–She sees the situation which came from her son’s action from an enemy’s perspective.. They were on our land, killing our citizens. It is timeless actions like this that make humanity come into question. She can villify us all she wants, but we were protecting our own from the enemy… They got what they deserved. War is war. Hate is hate. Actions beget reactions.
Ghost Rider says
Her son is “the Best of the Best”? Sorry to inform you that he wasn’t, First of all, he screwed up with the bombs because I’m sure they wanted to kill more than three. Secondly, he got caught. Thirdly, he messed with America and will pay the price, Put him in the gas chamber or the electric chair and let him suffer as the ones he and his brother harmed are hurting. He won’t be getting any 72 virgin goats, he’ll be going straight to Hell.
Peggy says
It really angers me when people buy this rubbish how parents are always shocked to finbd out that they never knew what their evil spawn was doing. At least in this case the parent doesn’t pretend not to have known.
There is no way a child who has been brought up in a loving decent family will turn evil (unless they start using drugs). Children learn from parents first and if the parents are decent people children will not become terrorists. They adopt their parents’ views.
This woman just decided not to hide her hatred. Well, that’s one honest Muslim even if she is an evil one.
gravenimage says
Peggy wrote:
Children learn from parents first and if the parents are decent people children will not become terrorists.
………………..
This is not always true, Peggy. Decent people can have vicious children who reject their goodness, and decent people can have vicious parents and reject their evil.
But you are quite right—the most common thing is for this savagery to be passed down, generation to generation. Just recently, we have seen several cases where Muslim parents claimed to be shocked at the Jihadist activities of their children, and then it turned out that the parents were supporters of Jihad themselves.
Peggy says
You’re right. There are examples of this but in majority of cases it’s the environment in which the children are brought up that has the most influence.
Parents are most influencial on their children if they invest a lot of time in their upbringing and Muslim parents make sure that their kids stick to Islam and discourage non Muslims from becoming friends with them.
gravenimage says
True, Peggy. And then this is reinforced by what they hear at the Mosque and from their Muslim “peers”, as well as what they likely seek out on-line.
DavidE says
I am disappointed that this clown hasn’t been executed yet. And his Mom should be executed too. And the rest of that family should be deported back to Russia.
illi says
She is right that if our president is allowed to bow and hug the killers …. then to her son also allowed to kill …He is the messenger of Obama …
gravenimage says
Boston Marathon jihad murderer’s mom: “Americans are terrorists, my son is the best”
…………………..
This vicious b*tch was just claiming that the entire Boston Marathon Bombing was a fraud, and that “paint” was used to simulate blood. She never explained how this fooled the hundreds of thousands at the race, the hundreds of media people filming it, the millions watching around the world, or the scores of ambulance and hospital personnel involved.
But then, since when have Taqiyya-spewing grievance-mongering Mohammedans ever had to be rational?
David Marks says
Isn’t it perhaps more reasonable to allow that the mom might be in denial and a deep state of embarrassment and grief?
Why pass harsh judgement on the desperate words of a mother in this circumstance?
gravenimage says
Because the family was involved in Jihad terrorism back in Chechnya, as well. This is not just the case of an otherwise good mother deep in denial about the deeds of her sons.
For one thing, she never said that the crimes must have been done by someone else, but that they were staged.
This goes way beyond a mother desperately thinking well of her children.
Ben says
We need to start a GOFUNDME site for assasinations against Muslim mothers like this. After all–they are the ovens who breed these terrorists, and need to be treated like the pigs they are.
Irwin Graulich says
Make her watch her monstrous son’s execution.
Andrew says
Islam is evil.
David says
I can imagine that if I were living in a country that is under invasion from America – where inoccent civilians are sometimes killed, then I too would see America as a terrorist.
Linde Barrera says
To David- What country has the USA invaded? “Invade” means “to enter by force to conquer or pillage”. The way I was taught history, the USA has always been invited by the powers that were ruling, or by the people who were “oppressed” in another country. The American people have always responded to tyranny by lending a hand, much to our collective detriment in many cases. I can’t think of anything good that has happened in the Middle East since 9/11, whether the USA got involved or not. But to say we “invade”? I don’t think so. Correct me with evidence, please.
gravenimage says
David wrote:
I can imagine that if I were living in a country that is under invasion from America – where inoccent (sic) civilians are sometimes killed, then I too would see America as a terrorist.
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Really? That would mean that you support the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. If not, then it would mean that you consider any Infidel’s presence in a Muslim land for any reason to be cause for Jihad.
Moreover, how can you imply that this was the “grievance” of the Tsarnaev brothers? The US had not invaded Chechnya.
In fact, they came here as *refugees*—we gave them sanctuary. They repaid that act of kindness by murdering innocent people—including a young child—at a foot race.
That you consider this sickening atrocity understandable shows your twisted moral sense.
Linde Barrera says
To gravenimage- I don’t know whether you are male or female, your ethnicity, your religion, or what you do for a living, but YOU are on the block, baby! That is my term for being correct and astute and ‘withit’. Thank you for your very valid comments and clear thinking. I love what you write. I think your style of writing is fabulous. I think you are an artist? When you last responded to me, I was in Chicago, volunteering/campaigning for Chuy Garcia for Mayor. At that time, you gave me a website to see your artwork. Would you give me that website again, please? I will write it down on paper so I won’t lose it. I am a techno dunce and do not trust myself to find your website from the time you sent it to me, which was between Mar 20 and Mar 30. Thank you gravenimage. Take care and God bless you and yours.
Pavelina says
The best what? Bloodthirsty, cold-blooded, heartless, reptilian, demonic savage? One of Satan’s spawn?
andrew says
I would definitely put her on a watch list – she is one angry woman
I dont think she is done being angry
isabella van der westhuizen says
Just asking but why do Americans allow people who are Muslims form Checyna to become American citizens.
America must realise that these pope are not like Irish or Italian immigrants form Ellis Island who will become American
These pole will never integrate
duh_swami says
‘Mommy Dearest’…the Islamic version. ‘She must have been a beautiful baby, but baby look at her now’…’She got Bette Davis eye’s’…You have to be really lucky to have a mom like that…Allah thinks of everything…
Jack Holan says
I vaguely remember that when the bombing took place that she was from the start Anti-American with a mouth on her collecting SSI. I have a strong suspicion that “the boys” probably picked up that love of country feeling at home. The attitude didn’t evolve in a vacuum. Also I thought that I read this family moved between 2 Republics while living overseas. Therefore our country being the third country of residence for them it doesn’t appear that they owe an allegiance to any of them. The Muslim terrorists are always just innocent boys and if they admit anything it’s the old “infidel made me do it because they are killing Muslims in the ME or “free Palestine” crap caused me to do it. Mom hating the USA and American terrorists as she claims we are should really think about giving up her Green Card and move back to Chetchnia or Takestan where she will be more happy. Besides they know how to deal with people like her
G Mitchell says
There is FAR more to this than meets the eye. The obvious story, we are supposed to follow like sheep, (which encourages rage towards muslims), and another, subtle set of information we are NOT supposed to follow. I like to check check both sides. Not just look at a picture
misha says
She is clearly out of her mind, which is understandable.
R Cole says
Ah… Welcome to America!!
Oliver says
Imagine praising a son who murdered people, including an eight-year-old boy in a horrific manner, for the crime of being American and watching a footrace.
the above- from the post.
I think I posted -on some other JW post- the Wall Street Journal, a few years ago, an interview with some Muslim woman who lost something like 5 or 6 children as ” martyrs’- and she was quoted as saying something like, she would gladly give all of her children as martyrs for Allah/Mohammed.
Not quite what a WESTERN MOTHER would say.
but normal for the barbarians.
Ben says
Right on, Oliver! Too bad the American public doesn’t study the history of Islam, from being the Barbarians, the Maurauders, the Slavers, the Hashishians and heroin producers. More modernly, they sided with Hitler during WW2, and currently are known as terrorists, hijackers, mass civilian killers, torturers such as beheaders,. deniers of civil rights and all other religions, and tormentors of women and children. We are currently in a state, such as 1937, debating whether the Nazis were good or bad. The truth is–much of Islam is bad, and we need to get our backsides into high gear, understanding what needs to be done to nulify this threat. God Bless America!
Ethan Allen says
Rather….God SAVE America
John Prather says
WRONG, the middle east and Islamic States were allied with the West, not Germany during WWII. Only IRAQ was allied with Germany. Iran, Saudi Arabia and Turkey were allied with the West when Japan invaded Pearl Harbor in 1942. In the 40s, the middle east was still weak and divided. Though they didn’t participate heavily with the west, they did hold alliances and never supported the Axis Powers.
Jeanne Price says
Warning to America: No Nation Has Ever Survived Multiculturalism….Theodore Roosevelt, 1907 “In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith comes and American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else; for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of his creed, or birthplace or origin.
But this is predicated upon the person becoming IN EVERY FACET AN AMERICAN…..There can be NO DIVIDED ALLEGIANCE here.
Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, ISN’T AN AMERICAN AT ALL.
We have room for but ONE FLAG, the AMERICAN FLAG….we have room but for ONE LANGUAGE here, and that is the ENGLISH LANGUAGE….and we have room for but ONE SOLE LOYALTY, and that is a LOYALTY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.”
It is clear that Roosevelt understood that MULTICULTURALISM would DESTROY AMERICA!
Many Muslim immigrants who come here do not assimilate and are not willing to assimilate or adopt our culture and laws….honor killings of women and children who attempt to assimilate is an example of what unwillingness. They have also tried to make Sharia Law our law.
Trevor Montgomery says
wow you are a special kind of stupid.
billy says
I THINK America should get back on there one place to start is give him the death sentence
Rod Prather says
I think we should put him in prison to rot there. His purpose is to die as a sacrifice to Islam. What better punishment than to deny him that end?
grandmaliberty says
FDR was one farseeing man!
Neal says
What a trash bag. Hope she comes here when we put him down like the DOG he is!!
jon says
To the mother of the Boston Bombers,
May God have mercy on your sons. I pray that you and the son you still have will come to know Jesus and be saved from the wrath to come. I am sorry you think that we are terrorists but I guess that can’t be helped.
John Prather says
Not making excuses but imagine losing both of your sons in this manner when you live half way around the world and trying to justify it by everything you know to be good in your life. Oh, she’s wrong, but so are most REPUBLICANS.