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Fascists out in force at Pamela Geller Brooklyn College event

Apr 22, 2015 11:40 pm By Robert Spencer

http://pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/d8sNwmA4BNWu-tHQ.mp4

I just published a piece at PJ Media, “The Brownshirts Are Back. And They’re in Our Universities.” In it, I drew parallels between the National Socialist brownshirts and modern-day Leftists on college campuses, both of whom shout down and intimidate anyone who dares to deviate from their accepted political line. No sooner had it gone up than students at Brooklyn College abundantly proved my point when Pamela Geller went there to speak.

Look at the video above, of the crowd abusing a woman in the audience who spoke up on Pamela Geller’s side, explaining how her family was a victim of genocide. The video is chilling — the group chanting, the frenzy. One can imagine the bared teeth, the blazing eyes — it sounded to me like a Nuremberg Rally.

Note also these students, giving the Islamic State signal:

onefinger

Read Pamela’s full account here. And my article on the thuggishness and fascism that is overwhelming the freedom of speech on university campuses here.

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  1. nacazo says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 12:38 am

    What are they saying???

    • Tom W Harris says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 12:52 am

      It sounded like “Pam’s on crack!” Although maybe it was just “Quack quack quack!.”

      • nacazo says

        Apr 23, 2015 at 1:52 am

        Brass or brat?

      • quotha raven says

        Apr 23, 2015 at 6:17 am

        Certainly sounded like “quack, quack, quack!” to me, Tom! Cheers! Quotha

        • Carly says

          Apr 23, 2015 at 8:35 am

          Read my comment below.. “That’s a threat, threat, threat, threat,threat”

      • Jae M says

        Apr 23, 2015 at 6:35 pm

        It’s “DON’T COME BACK”. They hate truth and show their true alliance to ISIS. They should be forced to go back to the Middle East. When they have NO freedom EXCEPT to yell “Death to America” they will know their stupidity.

        • Carly says

          Apr 23, 2015 at 9:14 pm

          That was towards the end of the speech. This particular video was before then.

          It’s ludicrous everyone is so quick to judge. Every religion has a group of people who take everything WAYYY out of context. Example : Christians and the Westboro baptist church. They are disgusting and inhumane.
          If as Christians we were judged and presented in the media by what those people do say and “stand” for everyone would think we are vile human beings who are cold blooded and have no sense of compassion. If you believe everything you see in the media you must be daft or pretend to be daft.. And I’m not quite sure which one is worse.

        • quotha raven says

          Apr 23, 2015 at 10:27 pm

          Carly –

          Let me try to inform your thinking: Westboro Baptist Church cannot be compared to Islam as “just another religion.” Islam is a different animal. It is a theocracy, which means in addition to “spiritual” or “religious” tenets, with promise of redemption, it is a tyrannical system which exercises through sharia law total control over legal, political and societal controls over its flock. Look up “theocracy” and take a look at Robert Spencer’s “Islam 101” and you’ll find it enlightening.

          What you say in your comment is perfectly valid – to a point: that all Christians should not be judged by the beliefs and activities of what you may enjoy calling Westboro: extremists. But this way of thinking simply does not apply to Islam. Please make the effort to understand how Islam differs from “religions” and grasp what a “theocracy” is. There is absolutely no way that Islam is compatible with our United States Constitution.

          Islam is a real threat to the free world, Carly. It is a metastasizing cancer. Islam wants to exterminate Christians! Islam is committing horrifying murderous acts in a straightforward effort to obliterate the freedom that any of us still enjoy in the West through the jihad it conducts to dominate everyone who doesn’t buy what they are selling. Sharia law, an INTEGRAL ELEMENT of Islam, dictates that unbelievers be executed. Westoro Baptists of any flavor are an entirely different kettle of fish. Please read up on these things. You strike me as someone who would spread the truth, once you understand it!.Cheers, Quotha

        • Western Canadian says

          Apr 23, 2015 at 11:32 pm

          Might this be the muslim who posted under the fake name of ‘christy’, back again to muddy the waters with ignorant and dishonest drivel??

    • G179 says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 10:13 am

      Pretzel break?

  2. Westman says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 2:25 am

    CAIR was trying to get the event cancelled previously, based on ridiculous “concerns for Muslim student safety”.

    It seems obvious that the demonstrating Muslim students and supporters were THE danger to others. They were the poorest excuse for students and Americans, unable to listen and discuss; only intending to disrupt and ruin an educational experience for others. What’s next? Jizya protection money to keep the Muslim Mafia from attacking Jews on campus?

    Yes, the Muslim “Brownshirts” are here with all their glorious fascism.

  3. Arnold says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 2:36 am

    The Muslim Student Association (Terrorist Groups) imitated the sound of DUCKS: Quaks quaks quaks! 🙂

  4. cs says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 3:04 am

    It just shows clearly how this “shabab” behaves and that conflict will be unavoidable and that is that.
    Sharia or die.

  5. Kathleen says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 5:31 am

    Bunch of rabid vermin!!!

  6. Gamal says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 6:30 am

    What’s really sad about this is when Pamela finally is invited to a place that doesn’t give in to CAIR she gets these lunatics yelling in her audience. One of the frightening things here is that man who videotaped the woman defending Pamela Geller with his phone.

  7. voegelinian says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 7:08 am

    On the positive side, the more hysterical the Leftists and their Muslim bedfellows become in these kinds of contexts, the more they are showing their dismay at an incipient tide turning. If I’m correct, let’s hope their dismay is accurate…

  8. Richie says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 7:34 am

    I’m really sick of Muslims who come to America to suck off the system, and go to our colleges, yet voice nothing but hatred for this country and our rights.

  9. Sam says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 7:36 am

    Time to fight Islam now. We are losing it. Come on people donate to Pam and Robert.

    Pam, Robert, we can not thank you enough. God bless you.

  10. Michael V. Wilson says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 8:12 am

    I’m an ex-Marine who qualified expert on the rifle range. Fair warning to any Muslims trying to cause trouble in my neighborhood.

    • Jay Airahs says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 10:53 pm

      @Michael V. Wilson
      What the HAIL are you talkin bout soldier?

      Have all the nut cases be let out of the prison psyche ward tonight?
      First off, assuming that you really were an ex-Marine, you probably struggled just to qualify as marksman.

      That comment that you just made throws disgrace upon the uniform that you pretend to represent.
      By saying that you qualified expert on the rifle range you are implying that you could take a shot at these unnamed men and women (rather than risk confronting them) at a comfortably safe distance away from 300 yards.

      Go crawl back in your cretin cave you SCUMBALL

      • quotha raven says

        Apr 23, 2015 at 11:07 pm

        Jay – You are right. I believe Michael V Wilson is an imposter, a charlitan.While I’m not an expert, I believe Marines don’t identify themselves as “an ex-marine”…think they say “Marine” and maybe in some way “now inactive” or similar, if they are no longer in active service.

        In any case, Michael V Wilson serves only to besmirch the Service with remarks like that, giving bloody homeland security et al reason to consider returning Marines dangerous and “the enemy” and subjecting them to “possible terrorist” investigations. You are absolutely right in your disgust. I share it. Cheers! Quotha

        • Jay Airahs says

          Apr 24, 2015 at 6:46 pm

          Thanks, quotha raven

  11. Carly says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 8:34 am

    This was after she said she wanted “Muslim
    Heads on a silver platter” to which the students responded

    “That’s a threat, threat, threat, threat”

    • Robert Spencer says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 8:48 am

      Problem is that she was not issuing a threat. She was saying that if they were in the situation she had been in, they would understand what she was saying.

  12. Matthieu Baudin says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 8:44 am

    Democratic Post WW1 Germany in the 1930’s was torn apart by two rival left wing revolutionary movements, the Communists and the National Socialists. Both loved street marches, beating up their opponents and parading as the voice of the people. Both movements were millenarian, dreaming of a new epoch, something we find today in Islamic Revivalist movements. Most of the German Communist leadership thought that an initial revolution via the National Socialists was preferable to the existing Bourgeois status quo. They were all in bed together chasing dreams. The problem for todays ‘brown shirts’ the children of the New Left generation is that they are unaware of the tragedy of Germany’s revolutionary movements in the 20th Century and the active role that German Communists played in helping the Nazi movement gain momentum and in handing Adolf Hitler the keys to the country.

    • quotha raven says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 11:04 am

      Matthieu B – I thought the National Socialists were the party of Hitler…n’est ce pas?

      • quotha raven says

        Apr 23, 2015 at 11:08 am

        To clarify, isn’t the National Socialists party the same as the Nazi party?

        • voegelinian says

          Apr 23, 2015 at 1:45 pm

          See my comment on the related story below:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/robert-spencer-in-pj-media-the-brownshirts-are-back-and-theyre-in-our-universities/comment-page-1#comment-1227098

  13. mortimer says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 9:12 am

    Islamo-fascism, red fascism, black fascism…Guess what?

    Same result!

  14. PRCS says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 9:30 am

    I DO disagree with Geller about the “Islamic State salute”.

    Check out the YouTube videos concerning the ’96 and ’98 Chechen Wars and you’ll see that raised index finger in many of them.

    While that gesture is common amongst current day jihadis, it didn’t start there and is not exclusive to any geographic area.

    • KrazyKafir says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 10:25 am

      But in this instance, and when concerning Muslims, the one finger salute is meant as a salute to the Islamic state, regardless if it can mean other things to other cultures.

    • Know Thy Enemy says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 2:46 pm

      PRCS, you are correct that the index finger salute has long been part of Islam. However, since Islam is both a religion and a political ideology, the gesture has two different meanings in Islam and both are equally valid-

      1) From the pov of religion: A declaration of adherence to monotheism.

      2) From the pov of Islam as a political movement: A declaration of loyalty to the Islamic [political] party. It does not matter whether the party is actually in power or not. This is similar to how the Nazis did the Nazi salute to declare loyalty to the Nazi party.

      And as KrazyKafir mentioned, in the current instance, the salute could very well be a show of support for Islamic State. If say, in 1942, some Germans living in the US did the Nazi salute, and upon asked, said “Oh, we are simply showing support for the party but we have nothing to do with Hitler and his state”, how believable would that be?

      Tip to DHS and the snooping NSA: The scum in the photo, and everyone who is going to “Like” their photo, are learning the same things in their mosques as do the IS jihadis. Maybe that explains why so many IS jihadis come from the West. That’s common sense, no?

      These vermins are as dangerous to free societies as are the IS jihadis.

    • voegelinian says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 6:37 pm

      You think ISIS’s use of it has nothing to do with previous usage of it?

  15. vlparker says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 9:38 am

    Brownshirts? Come on, Robert. These are the moderates who are going to reform islam. Can’t you tell?

  16. thomas pellow says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 10:00 am

    Is there any support from political leftists for Pamela Geller, or have they all succumbed to Islamic threats and intimidation, and worse?

  17. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 10:12 am

    The video is chilling — the group chanting, the frenzy. One can imagine the bared teeth, the blazing eyes…

    The Moslems are here, and they’re acting up. Acting on the commands in the Holy Ko-Ran under their rights conferred by the Constitution. But why are they here, why do they have constitutional rights? Why? Why oh why?

    • pdxnag says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 10:49 am

      Sedition is not protected by the First Amendment.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Apr 23, 2015 at 11:23 am

        True, but nowhere have the Moslems signed in ink a sworn affidavit attesting to their desire to overthrow the United States, with the ink signatures required on the pink and canary carbon copies. Like how the Clintons will get off their bribery scandal because they did not sign contracts to conclude their quid pro quo arrangements.

        We’re not a nation of laws anymore, we’re a nation of lawyers that, ironically, lacks the necessary legal documents.

  18. pongidae rex says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 10:26 am

    The presence of these people in Western societies is entirely self-inflicted. This is what the people wanted, so this is what you get. You wanted a society free of white racism and white people, you have it and will have the other soon. Enjoy.

    • Western Canadian says

      Apr 23, 2015 at 11:55 pm

      That comment is so utterly asinine and outright stupid, I assume that you are a current member of the pathetic and worthless KKK.

      • jay says

        Apr 24, 2015 at 1:50 am

        Yes, diversity is our strength! More immigrants from the third world and less white people make America great and strong. Racial and cultural suicide is making America #1 in the world right?? Oh wait.

      • Western Canadian says

        Apr 25, 2015 at 12:05 am

        I really wish some of the dimmer people on the internet would quit braying like jackasses about ‘what we the people wanted’….. Beyond asinine.

    • jay says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 1:55 am

      This is NOT what the people wanted. No one got to vote on the immigration changes in the 60’s and every single time it’s been fought against, it’s forced upon those who do not want it. Every poll for years showed people did not want an end to segregation, then the government shows up with guns and forces it. Then the immigration of Europeans is cut off and the third world flood gates open. Dissenters are labeled racists and nazis. The left is in full power right now, playing social engineering, weakening America from within. This is not a democratic decision, this was a forced invasion through legislation coupled with psychological political indoctrination. People don’t know what’s going on until their neighborhoods are changed and ruined, they have no say in what goes on.

      Do you blame the Russian people for the Communist take over too? Is it what they wanted and asked for? Do you blame Ukrainians? North Koreans?

  19. Stuart Cockerham says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 10:34 am

    I’ve spoken to many “moderate” and radical Muslims over the last thirty years, some in jail and some driving cabs at the airport. There really wasn’t much different between the thinking of the two groups, except that the radicals acted on the beliefs that the moderates only thought about.

    Since I as a person look more like the Native American side of my ancestry, they tried to convince me of their beliefs, even the extreme views of Islam’s sanctioning by the Koran of robbing, raping and murder of the infidels.

    There came a moment when I had to help stop the Muslims who tried to murder a young Jewish boy, who was set to testify of his kidnapping and of his being forced at gunpoint to partake in their crimes of robbing and the attempted murder of others.

    Make no mistake, while there are peaceful Muslims, the polls reveal that the majority of Muslims believe in killing the infidels and apostates from Islam as the right thing to do.

  20. Bezelel says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    Institute of higher learning.

  21. Aussie Infidel says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    Robert, How true! The brownshirts are back! But in their modern incarnation, they are a mob of ferals from the far-Left. At the recent Reclaim Australia rallies around our nation, the ralliers were confronted by hundreds of screaming protesters from the Socialist Alternative. They set up loudspeakers in opposition to the Reclaim speeches, continually trying to shout them down for two hours. But they didn’t succeed. The ralliers outnumbered the protesters by about 4:1. Surprisingly, there were few Muslims present; they simply let the useful idiots of the Left do their dirty work for them. Two lines of police kept the warring factions at bay.

    The rhetoric from the opposition consisted of a few speeches from leftist academics, mainly about local political issues like the government’s border protection policy, and how it was responsible for the deaths of thousands of refugees (many of course, migrating in the cause of Allah), and of course, the BDS movement against Israel. There was also a lot of mindless chanting from the mob like, “Nazis go home! Fascists out! Racists! No Islamophobia here! And We want multiculturalism!” It wasn’t just what they said, but how they said it – with venom in their voices. I’m not a member of Reclaim Australia, but went along with a placard to help their protest. I asked a few of the Leftists, whether they had read the Quran, or the Manual of Sharia law? Or if they could name any democratic Islamic countries? Or did they understand the Muslim doctrines of Jihad, or Hijra? Needless to say the answer was always a reluctant “No.” It’s amazing how some people can support a movement about which they know bugger all.

    Most of the protesters were university students, who might be very bright young people, but also very naive. They have had their minds filled with Socialist dogma from Leftist academics, and as yet have not been educated about the true nature of Islam. At least they learned one lesson that day – that there were a lot more people who objected to Islam than supported it – and that that opposition is growing – and we won’t be stopped! To refute one of their inane phrases, they will be the ones “left on the wrong side of history!” As more atrocities are committed by Muslim jihadists, it is becoming more and more difficult for Muslims to claim, “It has nothing to do with Islam!” And it will be more difficult for their apologists to claim that Islam is a “religion of peace!”

  22. underbed cat says

    Apr 23, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    Pamela obviously CAIR put out the call for “muslims” to attend and to “disrupt” your presentation. The media is complicit by referring to you as hateful and then by not showing up to film what they helped to create. They certainly show up for marches that turn to riots You are very brave and I wonder how many students wanted to come but were fearful. Looks like they like to “rage” and rant, to most Americans they appear hateful…how do they get away with this behavior. They should have been escorted out the door by police and charged with disorderly conduct. . Would they tolerate the same treatment? It would be a national crisis if anyone did this say in front of the MSA…..when they start to rage “death to America”…

  23. jay says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 1:47 am

    Why are so many goat herders in a university to begin with? Is the bar really that low? Or are they not students?

  24. underbed cat says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 11:31 am

    Deny, deny ,deny, deny , always the victim, rant, rant, finger pointing victims….students really not so pretty in pink. To ask young immature muslim students to take away hate speech out of the koran, passages about killing Jews and Christians would collapse their belief system. They have free speech to they are not the slightest bit worried….although the koran has many blatant threats……do they see that as a threat, threat, threat or is that just normal for them.

  25. rcourtemanche says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    Where are the authorities to control and remove these disturbers and allow her to speak? Applying the Sharia to themselves? USA might be doomed.

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