“A lot of these funds, I think, are directed to religious institutions or quasi-religious institutions. It’s very difficult in this country to start poking about, if you’ll forgive my English, religious institutions because of the respect that we have for freedom of religion.” Is it really freedom of religion to finance subversion and sedition?
“Foreign funds promoting ‘extreme Islamic jihadist’ views in Canada, national security advisor says,” by Stewart Bell, National Post, April 27, 2015:
Money is coming into Canada to promote extremist ideology and much of it is going to religious institutions, the prime minister’s national security adviser testified at a hearing Monday on the government’s counter-terrorism bill.
Asked by Senate national security committee chairman Daniel Lang about millions of dollars allegedly coming from Gulf states “in respect to the extreme Islamic jihadist interpretation of the Qur’an,” Richard Fadden said it was a problem.
“I think it’s fair to say, without commenting on the particular country of origin, there are monies coming into this country which are advocating this kind of approach to life,” responded Fadden, who works in the Privy Council Office.
“A lot of these funds, I think, are directed to religious institutions or quasi-religious institutions. It’s very difficult in this country to start poking about, if you’ll forgive my English, religious institutions because of the respect that we have for freedom of religion.”
The director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service until 2013, Fadden said that in his previous position he had raised the issue with representatives of countries “who might be involved in this and suggested to them that this was not helpful.
“The difficulty is in most cases the monies are not coming from governments; they’re coming from fairly wealthy institutions or individuals within some of these countries. It makes it doubly difficult to track,” he told committee members.
Canada Revenue Agency documents show that several religious organizations in Canada have received millions of dollars in donations from foreign donors. Since 2009, charities have been required to report publicly the amount of money they collect from outside Canada — but not the sources.
Professor Christian Leuprecht, a national security expert at Royal Military College and Queen’s University, said donors were trying to use their contributions to buy a platform to promote their own interpretation of religious doctrine.
He said it was difficult to say how much influence such donations really have in a liberal, tolerant society like Canada, but the concern was what could happen if foreign money shifted the mainstream, making it more narrow-minded.
The question of foreign funding has come up at previous Senate committee hearings. An earlier witness, Shahina Siddiqui, founder and executive director of the Islamic Social Services Association in Winnipeg, testified on Feb. 23 that her group was offered $3 million but refused it.
“The same thing with our mosques in Manitoba. We were offered money from Libya when we made our first mosque. We refused it,” she said. “We are telling organizations, ‘Do not accept funding from overseas, even if it sounds kosher, because there are strings attached to it, and we want to be a Canadian Muslim organization.’ ”…
American says
So, why not make it illegal to accept foreign donations? It’s your country, you make the laws.
Dan says
Because we have just as many HIllary Clintons in our country too.
American says
You need to weed them out, just as we do.
I just read an article about Denmark. Apparently, the Conservative Party there is initiating a major push against Islam. Couple this with Pergida-like activities elsewhere and there may be a revolution coming. If there was ever a time for action…
mortimer says
We are at a real turning point. There is now a general understanding in Western countries that jihad is truly Islamic…but that ‘certain groups’ have an ‘extreme’ interpretation of jihad…without knowing what that would be or who participates.
70% of Americans are now aware of the jihad threat, but most have read nothing from the Islamic source texts that justify it and are uninterested in learning. However, this new awareness is starting to take effect in the politicians as well, many of whom are starting to read about jihad. Politicians need literature.
We need to make Westerners aware that any Muslim can become a jihadist overnight by merely increasing his belief in the jihad doctrine and becoming a more pious Muslim…We need to make Westerners aware that killing and dying for Allah’s cause is the definition of jihad.
Most Westerners have been turned off to Islam by ISIS. Politicians have stopped saying that ISIS is un-Islamic. The ‘grace period’ of suspended judgment is now over.
Spot On says
Mortimer, A most interesting thing about ideas is that there is no way to predict how far an idea will go. Professionals may push the idea but people decide. Perception is like the idea, there is no way to predict. People do finally catch on and they do want to protect their own from harm. Like the snake in the tree sneaking up on the bird…suddenly the bird flies away. I like your numbers.
Spot On says
The US should make it illegal to accept foreign contributions too. K street is full of lobbyists representing foreign entities.
mortimer says
Religious institutions cannot engage in politics directly, but Islam is a duck-billed platypus…Islam is political and religious inextricably because the religion was created after the Islamic empire and was custom-made to support Islamic tyranny.
Spot On says
I have often thought that Muslims likely descended from the people mentioned in various ancient Jewish writings as the peoples and tribes who are evil and worship the snake.
Linde Barrera says
To Mortimer and other Jihad Watch subscribers of 4/2815- You all should be lobbyists in the USA federal and state government offices against ISLAM. You all express yourselves clearly, concisely, logically and intelligently without sarcasm and defamation. You all should consider becoming activists against the evils of Islam. I look forward to more of your ideas. Thank you.
Davegreybeard says
@mortimer
“…the religion was created after the Islamic empire and was custom-made to support Islamic tyranny”
Not quite Mort, it was created before the Islamic empire.
If you study the “Sirat Rasul Allah,” you will find that the Quran (Islam) was created piece by piece, as Muhammad committed each murder, rape, robbery or deception, and then Allah “Revealed” his Devine sanction for the evil deed. This is piece by piece process is also mentioned in the Quran and reflected in the Hadith.
In studying Muhammad’s life, and connecting the Quranic Sura’s to the specific action by Muhammad, the whole thing makes much more sense. Sometime later, Sharia was formed, but it was drawn directly from the Quran, the Hadith and the “Sharia.”
For instance, before Muhammad authorized the first Jihad raid, you find that the Muslims in Medina were impoverished and some of them were starting to make alliances with the Jews. Not only that, but Muhammad’s efforts to convince the Jews in Medina that he was the “Last Great Prophet of God,” was failing miserably. In addition, some of the Jews were openly mocking Muhammad. They said “If Allah were independent of us, then we would not have to loan him money.”
Muhammad found himself in an untenable position, and the only thing that would save him (and Allah) was cash. So the Jihad raids on Quraysh caravans began.
After Allah forgave the first murder at Nakhla, Muhammad had free rein to do whatever he wanted.
Davegreybeard says
That should be “Sharia is directly drawn from the Quran, the Hadith and the “Sira.”
Champ says
Spot On wrote:
I have often thought that Muslims likely descended from the people mentioned in various ancient Jewish writings as the peoples and tribes who are evil and worship the snake.
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True, Spot On! When you study the origins of islam, then you discover that they are satanic in nature; and this is further proven by the evil fruit demonstrated by muslims throughout history and of course today–beginning with probably the most notorious criminal who ever lived: muhammad.
Spot On says
Hi Champ, I’m glad you agree my friend. Heritage would play a strong part with Islam since heritage set the stage for Mohammed. This kind of evil had to have had roots. Evil is somewhat an intangible but you know it when you see it. Evil can be passed on through generations. The ancient Jewish people must have seen it when they described these people known as evil worshipers of the snake. The evil snake worshipers hated everything seen as good by ancient Jews and loved to hate. Muslims today are the same way. Someone could bring more light on this subject by researching this a bit.
Brian Hoff says
Our mosque doesnot tell muslim how to vote, we know the political who are Islamistoprobic than donot vote for then.
Angemon says
Brian Hoff posted:
“Our mosque doesnot tell muslim how to vote”
Of course. Voting is haram.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/nigeria-muslim-leader-says-hell-murder-people-who-vote
PRODOS says
“Spot On” writes: “The US should make it illegal to accept foreign contributions too.”
Accepting money from countries that do not themselves allow religious freedom — for instance Saudi Arabia does not allow Churches and Synagogues — should be prohibited.
Jerry says
It is illegal to incite and promote genocide and those doing it from the inside of a mosque or madrassah should not be sheltered from criticism or prosecution.
Spot On says
If the RICO laws were enforced against Islam in the US, Islam could not exist here. I do not expect this to happen any time soon since such action would cut off a major source of revenue for our politicians.
Spot On says
Prodos, Give politicians an inch and they take a mile. Actually we have a law that would prevent all foreign contributions written in our Constitution. Politicians circumvent this law. The Constitution was written to protect us and the politicians like to get around it.
Gary says
“the respect that we have for freedom of religion.”
Freedom for now anyway. At this time Muslims in the West are conducting “Jihad by the word.” But give them time, and with numbers, (and more importantly the votes), and it’s Sharia Law everywhere. Which means my comments below would mean my death:
Muhammad was never a “Holy Prophet”, he was a tool in the hand of Satan. The Muslim ‘faith’ mis-represents God the Father.
“The law of the LORD is perfect,
refreshing the soul.
The statutes of the LORD are trustworthy,
making wise the simple.
The precepts of the LORD are right,
giving joy to the heart.
The commands of the LORD are radiant,
giving light to the eyes.
The fear of the LORD is pure,
enduring forever.
The decrees of the LORD are firm,
and all of them are righteous.
They are more precious than gold,
than much pure gold;
they are sweeter than honey,
than honey from the honeycomb.
By them your servant is warned;
in keeping them there is great reward.”
Psalm 19:7-11
DP111 says
Jesus Christ on Satan – When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Qur’an (Surah 3:54 – Allah is described as the greatest deceiver.
QED
pongidae rex says
All the advances of Western civilization in the areas of civil liberties, human rights and cultural tolerance have been weaponized as instruments of our own self destruction by Islamists. When Communism was on the march in our countries, we knew how to deal with it. Now something far worse than Communism is on the march and all we can do is roll out the red carpet.
ECAW says
Very well put pr!
terry says
“Now something far worse than Communism is on the march and all we can do is roll out the red carpet.”
It never ceases to boggle my mind everyday, not only the complete western passiveness toward the in-progress, ultimate sweeping Islamic conquest and domination of the west, but the major role this later is playing in enabling and facilitating the whole process for the former.
Actually I came to the conclusion, for sometime now, that that is something far beyond stupidity and may be our comprehension too.
Don McKellar says
All I have to say is: LET THE PUBLIC EXPOSURE OF THE GLOBAL JIHAD CONTINUE!
Alissa says
You said it!
JamesonRocks says
“We are telling organizations, ‘Do not accept funding from overseas, even if it sounds kosher, because there are strings attached to it, and we want to be a Canadian Muslim organization.’ ”…
Kosher? Kosher? Certainly an odd use of terminology, isn’t it?
DP111 says
Very
But I’m even more careful when Muslims speak the language of peace and tolerance. In fact, doubly so.
Muslims, particularly in Canada, are beginning to realise, that things are not looking as fair as they had a few years bck. This “kosher” bit could be a devious attempt to appear Jew Friendly etc..
duh_swami says
Freedom of religion is an oxymoron…There is no such thing as absolute freedom of religion, especially with Islam that does not recognize freedom…This concept is extended to Islam without merit. Islam is slavery, not freedom…In civilized country’s Islam cannot fully practice their ‘religion’ because it is married to sharia, and in the US, at least, sharia is incomparable with the US Constitution, and some provisions are already against established law. If Mahoundians want full freedom of religion, they need to pack up and move to Pakistan or some other Islamic paradise.
TH says
It would be very easy to declare Islam as a dangerous cult which promotes terrorism as even a cursory reading of the Qurán would prove that. I am not saying that the Qurán should be banned, but Islam declared illegal due to its promotion of terrorism in its official canonical texts.
Angemon says
“Religious institutions”? As in, all religions have an equal number of institutes receiving foreign money to promote “extremist” ideology?
So freedom of religion trumps national security. Yeah, what could possibly go wrong…?
tom says
Yes, freedom of religion is a guranteed right due to our Constitution.
It is the citizens job to make sure religious zealots don’t run amuck.
jewdog says
It may be possible for the Gulf States to pool their resources and buy Canada. That would establish a beachhead in North America for Islam. The Mounties would then dress in green and ride camels. Parliament would have to start beheading and whipping criminals, such as racists would are guilty of Islamophobia. In general, Canada would then resemble Britain, which sold itself out a while ago.
tom says
Yep, and we still bow down these gulf monarchs.
We should be siding with Iran to dispose ourselves of these Sunni extremists.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
The use of “kosher” in a non-ironic way by an officer of an Islamic organization is certainly peculiar. Another peculiar usage is “forgive my English” by a Canadian government official:
“A lot of these funds, I think, are directed to religious institutions or quasi-religious institutions. It’s very difficult in this country to start poking about, if you’ll forgive my English, religious institutions because of the respect that we have for freedom of religion.”
Which part of this English wording requires forgiveness? Does “poking about” have some obscene meaning in Canadian English?
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
A troublesome trend in modern politics has been to change the definition of key concepts at will. For example, at about the 15th straight year of no global warming, the AGW crowd rebranded itself Global Change, which should leave them in business forever.
Well, Canada has the chance to put those funding Jihad up there out of business forever, not by false definition, but by redefining Islam accurately. Islam is not just a religion per se, it is three things: a religion, a government and a military. Redefine Islam for what it is, and the applicable laws will see the law enforcement situation regarding Global Jihad in Canada go from “very difficult” to “straightforward.”
EYESOPEN says
Ah, APF, it has been renamed “Climate Change” (just to cover all the bases). As if the climate has not changed on this Earth in so many thousands of years? (There was a time when figs and breadfruit grew in Greenland – and I don’t think there were any “industrialized” societies at the time. Certainly no gas-guzzling SUVs. {;o)
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
But they had flying saucers in central Africa back then. Maybe their ships were powered by diesel engines, after all this was a long time ago, well before the invention of chemical rocket fuels. So the diesel discs billowed clouds of black smoke and that threw everything out of kilter and resulted in a tropical Greenland.
Could be. Just like the Moslems are going through a rough patch right now and will inevitably adopt the standards of modern civilization once they overcome the effects of colonialism. That could be, too.
Georg says
Saudi “Double Deal” Arabia is the unnamed country, no?
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
It’s funny how little investigation went into the funding of 9/11. Looking into that was stopped when all trails led back to the rich princes in Riyadh. Governor Kean decided to leave well enough alone. This was tacitly accepted by all because we all know deep in our hearts that attack attack attack is the natural impulse of Moslems, a trait flaw that we must help them improve on instead of holding them responsible for.
Fritz Kohlhaas says
Most of the money comes from the Emirates. Boycott the bastards! No World Cup in 2022!
Tricia says
Cant the government seize these accounts , close them down ? It has to be seen as encouraging terrorism in Canada.