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Imam of the Kaaba: “Islam is a religion of peace, love and compassion”

Apr 24, 2015 5:38 pm By Robert Spencer

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Hey, this is great news! When will the Imam of Holy Kaaba, Sheikh Khalid Al Ghamdi, venture into Mosul and Raqqa to explain to the leaders of the Islamic State that they are misunderstanding the Religion of Peace?

“Islam is religion of peace, says Imam of Kaaba,” Khaleej Times, April 25, 2015:

Islamabad — The Imam of Holy Kaaba, Sheikh Khalid Al Ghamdi, who flew into Lahore on Thursday led Juma prayers at Bahria Town Masjid, one of the largest mosques in the world. He was warmly received by Bahria chief Malik Riaz Hussain.

Al Ghamdi is visiting Pakistan on an invitation by the government.

In his address, the imam said, “Islam is a religion of peace, love and compassion. There is no place for violence and coercion in Islam. Those indulging in violence are distorting the image of Islam.”…

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Comments

  1. Michael Copeland says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    Where, pray,is the image of Islam NOT “distorted”?

  2. Nathan says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 5:47 pm

    Thank god for that! It’s all over we can all go back to working 48 hours a week and not worry about getting blown up, raped or beheaded!

    Whew! It was so close, and I thought we were going to have to have WWIII because of islam.
    He’s saved us all!

    WHAT! ISIS doesn’t give a flying F**ck what he says? Oh no, say it isn’t true!

    Back to the death and despair….the only peace islam will know is when it’s dead ‘n’ gone.

    • Jay Airahs says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 8:22 pm

      Ironically Islam’s violence reveals just how incredibly vulnerable Islam is from a strategic perspective.

      It is not as if Islam has even the slightest solid moral high ground to stand upon.
      The Serpent of Satan Muhammad’s claim of being a ‘Messenger’ by way of a noble angel is so outrageously laughable that Muslims lash out in desperation as an act of face-saving denial.

    • Lee says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 10:26 am

      ISIS ignore the imam because they know he’s merely shilling for Islam. This is standard. With more than 100 Islamic terror groups around the world, plus individual Muslims planning more mass-murders, and a cleric will hold a press conference saying “Islam means peace love and understanding!”

      As Mr. Spencer regularly points out, the clerics *never* attack terrorists for “misrepresenting Islam”. Nor do Muslims ever hold mass-rallies siding with NON-Muslims against the Muslims who threaten our lives. Instead, after each Islamic mass-murder, Muslims warn of a “backlash” where Islam might be insulted.

      Muslims care more for their feelings that *our lives*. As Muhammad taught:
      Bukhari volume 1, Book 2, Number 10:
      The Prophet said, “A Muslim is the one who avoids harming Muslims with his tongue and hands.

      Volume 3, Book 43, Number 622:
      Allah’s Apostle said, “A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor…whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection . ”

      Volume 3, Book 43, Number 623:
      Allah’s Apostle said, “Help your brother [Muslim], whether HE IS AN OPPRESSOR or he is an oppressed one.”

  3. Papa Whiskey says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    “Those indulging in violence are distorting the image of Islam.”

    But they are not distorting its reality.

    • Nathan says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      Distorting the image they ‘want to portray’. Not the actual thing, just the image! If you have to give the muslims anything they are masters of language. They can say one thing, but if you actually look into what they said it could mean pretty much anything they wanted it to.

    • Proud Pork Fan says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 8:50 pm

      Papa Whiskey, the sad truth is that those pious muslims that indulge in peace are distorting the true message of Islam. And anyone out there who doesn’t believe me, read the bloody books. Lets not sugar-coat this crap any more.

    • R. K. MacUalraig says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 11:50 pm

      Perfectly said, Sir.

  4. Michael Copeland says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    Khalid Al Ghamdi: “There is no place for violence and coercion in Islam.”
    Anjem Choudary: “jihad is the most talked about duty in the Koran…”Nothing else is mentioned more than the topic of fighting.”
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6230-licence-to-kill-as-taught-in-mosques
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/5789-ideology-of-killing

    • Nathan says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 6:13 pm

      Same old, same old. When you are in islam, as in no coercion in islam, well yes! you don’t need no coercion as you are already in it, if your not… well then LOOK OUT!

      They tell lies and half truths, from their view point is obvious, it pulls our strings, of compassion and faith. The reality is we die and they don’t… all in a fuzzy sentence. Those in islam know it for what it is, those outside of islam get slaughtered.

      Time and time again. The world over. Wake up, wake up soon!

  5. gfmucci says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    Islam is a “religion” of liars, deceivers and psychos.

  6. John says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    • The Imam of the Kaaba said that Islam is peaceful.

    • Pope Francis said that atheists can be saved.

    • The Mormon Church condemns polygamy (Joseph Smith had over 40 wives).

    Notice a pattern?

    • mortimer says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 10:53 pm

      No pattern. Islam is unique. Islam alone PROMOTES lies with a doctrine of sacred lying called ‘taqiyya’.

      Even Allah is called the ‘best of deceivers’. Allah intentionally misguides people and then punishes them for being misguided. Moreover, Allah commissions Muslims to be bounty hunters of those whom he misguided. Executing them brings rewards in paradise. This doctrine is called ‘jihad’, another uniquely Islamic doctrine.

  7. voegelinian says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    Mars Attacks! — “We come in peace.”

    • duh_swami says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 7:14 pm

      ‘How to serve man’, was a cook book…

      • Jay Airahs says

        Apr 24, 2015 at 7:57 pm

        Here is a link to the Twilight Zone episode

        • Jay Airahs says

          Apr 24, 2015 at 8:01 pm

          To those who are unfamiliar, a brief summary.
          Uninvited Alien beings claim they come in peace and soon begin to convince a skeptical public of their good intentions with the help of progressive minded culturally enlightened intellectuals.

          When one of a staff of US government cryptographers translates their ‘book’ title
          to mean ‘TO SERVE MAN’ everyone is relieved and overjoyed and soon all the (leftists)
          pat themselves on the back as if to say “see we told you so”
          But ,later on to everyone’s horror:

          The plot turns …

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 3:44 am

      That wasn’t my favorite movies, but that *is* a brilliant scene.

  8. Gary says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    “There is no place for violence and coercion in Islam. Those indulging in violence are distorting the image of Islam.”

    Really?

    O.K. Mr. Sheikh Khalid Al Ghamdi, please explain this……

    Sharia law:

    • Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
    • Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
    • A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
    • A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
    • Girls’ clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad’s words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
    • A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
    • A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband’s consent to divorce.
    • A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
    • Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
    • A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
    • A woman’s testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man’s.
    • A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
    • A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
    • A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
    • Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah – i.e., be Halal.
    • Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.

    • Nathan says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 7:01 pm

      Well Gary, there’s more lies in islam than there are hairs on a goats fanny.

      Hairs, lies, hairs, lies… what would you follow if all your women were dressed in bin bags?

      I dunno’ 50/50 split?

      • Gary says

        Apr 24, 2015 at 9:36 pm

        Yet the West remains blind to the lies. (Or.. They intentionally appease, ‘You Know’…. “THE HOLY PROPHET” ) I shutter to think what this world will be like for my children’s generation.

  9. Westman says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    Saudi Islamic peace: a little piece of flesh when a head is chopped off, a little piece when a severed hand lies in the street, a little piece that drips off an acid-burned face, a little piece of crushed body during stoning, a little crushed flesh during a public flogging, a little crushed flesh during the beating of a wife, a little crushed flesh by the moral police because an ankle was showing.

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” – Voltaire

    So, Sheikh Khalid Al Ghamdi, who rules Islam in Saudi Arabia? You or the Royals who allow this gore and export Wahabism with oil money? Beheading people is not Peace.

    Oh, I think I just perceived how this works:-) You and the Royals have a deal. They allow you to put the best spin on their sham and they spend money on Mekkah and allow you to administer Islam. You look the other way, while they party in Europe, and they let YOU and yours carry out the attrocities.

    As a bastion of Islam Peace, Saudi Arabia is the country Egypt points to as violent and so backward that its Imams still think the world is flat. It is so peaceful that no Christians have built any churches there, they just go to the Mosque where they are warmly greeted and have their own classrooms -NO?? Misinformed about the peaceful welcome mat, again.

    The truth is the Royals rule but you and your associates keep them from getting too out of hand by reminding them that the Muslim population would overthrow them on your command. So you sold out and now you’re lying for the Royals about the “peacefulness” that is maintained by tyranny.

    • Nathan says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 7:12 pm

      I think you’ll find…

      They rule with an Iron rod, while day to day. They go about in Europe and the USA doing anything they dam well please. Whores, drugs and everything else you can think of, while the poor dumb islamic faithful are living the life of a slave, or the life of a slaves wife

      Best not spare the islamic rod of iron or they might be out of a job. It isn’t about religion, as all ways it’s about controlling the masses, or getting them to control them selves. As per the last 1,400 years. Wake up you islamic dullards. You can do better than slavery.

      Better them, than me!

  10. Harvey Nextman says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    Hey, look on the bright side. At least he didn’t blame infidels or islamophobia.

  11. somehistory says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    distorting the image of Islam.”…

    The image is the important thing. No one would willingly bow down and worship a murderous wild beast from satan if one knew they were willingly bowing down and worshipping the wild beast…except of course those who are psychopathic or brain dead from hearing the awful sound from the minaret loud speakers from birth and don’t know any better.
    But the image now….that is something to consider…to put forth that islam is peaceful, loving and compassionate….to trick the willfully blind, deaf and stupid into the worship of satan’ and his wild beast by putting forth a lying image.
    And if one refuses to accept that islam is all peaches and creamy delight, and the image fails its mission…then there is still the beheading option…with the spear or the sword or the nukes that will soon be available.

    “Vile, immoral, murdering liars…” are heading for that final fire (Revelation 21:8-9).

  12. Jay Airahs says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    On sale:
    No returns, not for lease.

    Islam’s bargain is a bastardly thief.
    Your loss is Islam’s illegitimate ‘profit’.
    Watch each step; he is covered in dog Sh-t.

  13. abad says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    Al Ghamdi knows exactly what he can go do. I feel sorry for the goat nearest him…

  14. Champ says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    “Islam is religion of peace, says Imam of Kaaba,”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yes, islam is a religion of “peace” alright …

    P=perversion
    E=evil
    A=abomination
    C=cult
    E-evasion

  15. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    Crying and Whining we are the “Religion of Peace”, as well as “Racist”, “Bigoted” and “Islamophobe”, to anyone who exposes the TRUTH about Islam – this “Grand Deception” NO longer works for Islam, as in the very appropriate words of BNI, “It Isn’t Islamophobia When they really ARE trying to kill you”.

    Islam – which itself feels that IT has the “Allah, Mohammed, and Qur’an given DUTY” to “Blaspheme”, and make “Racist” and “Bigoted” statements about ANY Religion, Faith, Belief, or Prophet that is NOT Islamic, with expected Impunity, while ITSELF demanding FORCED World “Blasphemy Laws”, with Criminal Punishment, for ANYONE who “Blasphemes” Islam or their Prophet Mohammed.

    Islam – which wants FORCED Islamic Law WORLD WIDE, first if possible through the “Grand Deception” Taqyyia and Kitman (Islamic approved Lying and Deception) that advance the cause Islam by gaining the trust of non-believers (the Infidels), in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them), HOWEVER if NOT possible, THEN through FORCED Islamic Jihad.

    Islam – which considers Islamic Law as “Supreme” (which IS Antithetical to the U.S. Constitution), even over the United states Constitution – which IS America’s “Law of the Land”.

    Islam – which considers THEIR “Holy Book” the Qur’an as “Supreme”, THEIR Allah the ONLY “God”, and THEIR Mohammed the ONLY “Prophet”, and REFUSES to abide by the Laws of ANY Country.

    During the Nazi Days of WW2, the Nazis attempted to hide their Atrocities, and claim that the reports are only “Propaganda” and it isn’t really happening.

    However NOW in the 21st Century Islam’s Islamist “Islamo Nazi’s” BOAST about their Atrocities, and OPENLY Post the Pictures, therefore it IS well DOCUMENTED throughout the World

    Therefor Islam’s Islamists, and Groups such as CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, MSA, et. al., can no longer adequately refute the direct EVIDENCE and claim that it doesn’t occur (unless they want to try to laughingly claim “Foolish INFIDEL – Just DON’T believe your Lying Eyes and Lying Ears”), even though the Islamist Jihadist’s still incessantly try, and play the “Victim Card” for themselves.

    Also, by attempting to pass the buck by Blaming Christians for performing such acts during the 7th Century Crusades against Muslims, who WERE ALSO performing those acts to the Christians, BUT Christians who btw have NOT for Centuries and do NOT perform such acts TODAY in the 21st Century, while Muslins STILL DO perform such acts TODAY in the 21st Century, and now OPENLY BOAST about it.

    Thanks to News Services, which POST the TRUTH and the EVIDENCE for the World to see (which the Islamic Jihadists are Feverously and Vigorously attempting to Defame and Shut Down), such as “Jihad Watch”, “Creeping Sharia”, “BNI – Bare Naked Islam”, “WND – World Press – World Net Daily”, “Front Page Magazine”, “Muslim Watch”, “The Muslim Issue”, “Pamela Geller Atlas Shrugs”, “Anti CAIR”, “American Freedom Defense Initiative”, “Freedom is Just Another Word, – et. al.

    • Demsci says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 6:27 am

      This seems good analysis to me, and reason for hope, William. Let’s be optimistic.

      Of course now the excuse of the Islam-apologists is that the groups giving the evidence of Islam-inspired atrocious and oppressive behavior “are not Islamic”! And created, funded by …… Jews and Americans! Directly or through their puppet regimes in the Middle East. But this must ultimately be seen as ridiculous by Muslims themselves. And we can even say; perhaps the Jews and Americans really did that but how then do you Muslims explain that you are so easily duped by them using your own holy texts?!

      • Demsci says

        Apr 25, 2015 at 6:33 am

        Oh yes, and I forgot; now Muslims chastise us Westerners when we point the finger to ISIS/ Al Nusra/ Taliban etc. saying; do you realise that these groups kill many more Muslims than they kill Westerners?

        AS IF ….. Westerners are egoistic and wrong to complain, when it is the Muslims, you know, who suffer the most from these “un-islamic fake-Muslims”, who “never read the quran-hadiths very well”!!!

        Well, I like to respond; OK, then in your protests against Israel, then also remember that the biggest number of Muslim casualties is caused by the “pseudo-Muslims” and not Israel or the Westerners.

        And since all casualties must be seen as equally regrettable, it is only suitable that Muslims protest against killers proportionally, so more against ISIS than against Israel for instance.

  16. jewdog says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    He’s right!
    Peace, as in blown to pieces
    Love, as in I’d love to kill you
    Compassion, as in I’m so sorry that I chopped off your head

  17. Lesley says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    @Champ. Yikes– it looks like I fed a troll, previously. I see your point, Champ.

    • Champ says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 4:27 am

      No worries–I feed this troll, too, everytime I respond to ‘justin’, lol!

  18. Sabri S. says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    Islam is without question the greatest religion
    On earth, and always will be…. no muslim Country
    On earth fires drones into other people’s countries…
    nor occupies other countries with their militaries…
    Nor pushes immorality and perversion into other
    People’s cultures…if the majority of people in america
    Followed islam, we would see the peace, prosperity
    And happiness we so desperately seek….bigotry
    Has no place here…

    • Demsci says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 4:34 am

      /”Islam always will be”// //”if the majority of people in america Followed islam, we would see the peace, prosperity And happiness we so desperately seek”//

      Sabri S, you speak of the future. But look at the time-frame; according to Islam, after sending 100s of prophets, Allah sent Muhammad as final prophet, which was 1400 years ago and no other prophets came, so you Muslims are stuck with Muhammad and the quran-hadiths in it’s frozen form. Until the day of judgement. But what if in future that does not come either? How long will you keep following this last prophet? And a god that has not sent one word of advice ever since?

      And even you should understand that Islam has had it’s chance and done it’s best and cannot now be expected to do better than in the past WITH THE SAME OLD TEXTS.

      And pay attention; how much longer can Muslims hope to conquer the world? When the smartest Kuffar and Israeli companies are getting so much technological power that even numerical superiority means nothing anymore? While the Muslims lag behind? You Muslims cannot even be sure that Artificial Intelligence will conquer the world, given the doubling of the capacity and intelligence of computer every 2 years! How long will you Muslims be so stupidly stubborn?

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 4:42 am

      The repulsive Taqiyya artist Sabri S. wrote:

      Islam is without question the greatest religion
      On earth, and always will be…. no muslim Country
      On earth fires drones into other people’s countries…
      ………………………………

      This is only because Muslims have proven too stupid to develop drone technology. Much as they claim to hate Bi’da—innovation—they *adore* weaponry.

      Drones have so far just been used to target terrorists—but of course, a pious Muslim like Sabri S. *loves* terror.

      More:

      nor occupies other countries with their militaries…
      ………………………………

      Now, this is just grimly hilarious—Islam was spread by the sword. Muslims conquered all of the Levant, North Africa, the Near East, and a big chunk of the sub-continent. They occupied large chunks of eastern Europe and Greece for centuries, and occupied Spain for seven hundred years.

      Right now, they are trying to violently take over Nigeria, Kenya, and chunks of the former Yugoslavia, and are making violent inroads in western China, southern Thailand, and southern Philippines, and are trying to destroy Israel.

      They are also driving out and massacring the last Infidels in Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, and the Islamic State.

      More:

      Nor pushes immorality and perversion into other
      People’s cultures…
      ………………………………

      My God, what crap. Muslims are trying to impose brutal Shari’ah law in numerous places, which codifies the immorality and perversions of pedophilic child marriage, polygamy, wife beating, “Honor Killing”, amputating the hands of petty thieves, murdering people for “blasphemy”, and stoning rape victims to death.

      More:

      if the majority of people in america
      Followed islam, we would see the peace, prosperity
      And happiness we so desperately seek….
      ………………………………

      Muslims don’t seek peace, prosperity, and happiness—those are Infidel values. They seek domination, looting, and sneering supremcism, which are *very* different matters.

      More:

      bigotry
      Has no place here…
      ………………………………

      Opposing evil is not “bigotry”—take your ham-fisted Taqiyya elsewhere.

      • Wellington says

        Apr 25, 2015 at 7:14 pm

        Ditto, gravenimage, And the pattern is again seen as virtually unalterable, to wit, that every time a Muslim seeks to defend his religion, he more or less (sometimes more, sometimes less) reveals either his religion or himself or both as deficient—-as here. I have never come across a defense of Islam by a Muslim (or a dhimmi apologist for Islam) that has made me have a less negative view of Islam. Not one single time. Hope you’re doing just fine in this extra goofy world we live in.

      • Champ says

        Apr 25, 2015 at 7:39 pm

        Great comment, Graven! …spot on.

    • duh_swami says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 5:30 am

      Islam is without question the greatest religion
      On earth, and always will be…

      Start off with a lie and your done…worthless…

    • Champ says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 6:54 pm

      Sabri S. wrote:

      Islam is without question the greatest religion
      On earth, and always will be …

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      I read that ridiculous LIE and nearly split my side from laughter!! …and my husband was in the kitchen making us dinner (he cooks once in a blue moon, hehe) and he said “wow what’s so funny?!!”

      Hey SOA, thanks for the belly laugh! 😀

  19. mortimer says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 10:46 pm

    We knew that…Imam of the Kaaba: “Islam is a religion of peace, love and compassion”.

    Of course! That’s why Sheikh Khalid Al Ghamdi wears the JIHAD MUSTACHE…the clipped upper lip shows jihadists who the MUSLIMS are in BATTLE so they won’t ‘lovingly’ and ‘compassionately’ STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS!

    ‘Love’ and ‘compassion’ are reserved for fellow Muslims…BROTHER Muslims. ‘Harshness’ (or ‘violence’) is reserved for the dirty, low-down, subhuman KAFIRS whom Allah commissioned Muslims to kill as his BOUNTY HUNTERS. Killing kafirs (lovingly or not) is requited with eternal sex with slaves in paradise.

    • Jay Airahs says

      Apr 24, 2015 at 10:58 pm

      Love’ and ‘compassion’ are reserved for fellow Muslims…BROTHER Muslims.

      Muhammad had sex with a boy donkey.
      Supposedly the donkey was so broken hearted after Muhammad’s aorta ruptured due to being poisoned by a woman Jew that the donkey threw itself in a well and committed suicide.
      But truth be told it is more likely that Muhammad ordered his followers to kill the donkey after his death because of Muhammad’s vindictive jealousy lest anyone else come between Muhammad and his bunk buddy boy-donkey bromance (soon to be 12th imam)

  20. David says

    Apr 25, 2015 at 1:36 am

    You see how this Imam in laughing? He thinks “Islam is a religion of peace” is a great joke too.

  21. gravenimage says

    Apr 25, 2015 at 4:14 am

    Imam of the Kaaba: “Islam is a religion of peace, love and compassion”
    ……………………….

    Here are some more howlers from Sheikh Khalid Al Ghamdi:

    Imam-e-Ka’aba Khalid Al Ghamdi urged Ulema to strive for the system of justice. “Islam has given the best rights to minorities. Islam prohibits the murder of women and children even during a war.”

    He said that people belonging to all religions lead a peaceful life in an Islamic state
    …

    This, said with a straight face by a Imam who lives in a state—Saudi Arabia—where religious minorities may not so much as own a bible or a cross, and where Infidels are regularly persecuted and are legally considered less than Muslims, and delivered in a country—Pakistan—where Infidels are regularly kidnapped, forcibly converted, raped, assaulted, charged with “blasphemy”, and murdered outright.

    • voegelinian says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 2:02 pm

      And Saudi Arabia, where executions of “witches” (those who are deemed by the state to practice sorcery) take place regularly, often by beheading. If we could catch the Kaaba Imam in a moment of unguarded candor, and we confronted him with the fact of these regular beheadings in Saudi Arabia for such crimes as witchcraft, he would say, with a big grin, “And your point is…?”

      I.e., to the Muslim mind, executions of witches is part of their promotion of “justice” and “peace”.

  22. duh_swami says

    Apr 25, 2015 at 5:49 am

    This site need some rely buttons for replies to replies…it’s hard to follow the bouncing ball…

    How do you get a cushy job like Imam of the Ka’aba…is there a test? How much does it pay? Does it include janitorial? Someone has to sweep and mop up stains on the floor…

  23. GKP says

    Apr 25, 2015 at 9:24 am

    The Imam of Mecca is only playing “Taquiya” he is saying what the non Islamic world want to hear .
    Islam is the religion which allows its followers to say lies with a motive to spread Islam .
    The true is that Islam is not like other religion it was invented by the greatest Mafia of the history Muhammad only to meet his selfish end.

  24. Clay says

    Apr 25, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    When a Muslim speaks of peace and compassion he is only referring to lands ruled by Muslims. Both the Koran and Hadith call for a perpetual war in the lands not controlled by Muslims. I know that many if not most Muslims do not know what the Koran teaches, just a most Christians don’t have the slightest idea what is in the Bible. This man does know and is purposefully distorting the teachings in the Koran.

    • duh_swami says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 1:50 pm

      just a most Christians don’t have the slightest idea what is in the Bible.

      How do you know this? How many Christians are ‘most’? Every Christian I know, or have known, reads the Bible.

      • voegelinian says

        Apr 25, 2015 at 2:37 pm

        I’m far more concerned with the other half of Clay’s sweeping generalization —

        “… I know that many if not most Muslims do not know what the Koran teaches…”

        The half about Christians at least has a germ of truth about it, considering the enormous changes that modern secularism has entailed throughout the West, over the span of two or three centuries transforming a Christendom into… something else, with innumerable numbers of what would have been Christians in centuries prior now floating around in various degrees disconnected from a Christian worldview. This process never occurred in the Muslim world. While Muslim societies in modern times seem to have gone through a protracted, complex process of dislocation and disorientation that superficially seems to have dislodged them from their traditional Islam of yore, there is one way in which their change has been profoundly different from the Western adventure: Their change was imposed from without, by Western colonialism — which in addition provokes in the typical Muslim mindset an exacerbation of their already baseline paranoia and misoxeny (hatred of the Other), augmenting their need to jihad (not that they need any prompting). On top of that, Muslim societies went through an extraordinary process of internal decadence and corruption as the Muslim world became increasing inclosed due to the spectacular global growth and geopolitical power of the West beginning in the 17th century (and skyrocketing amazingly with each passing century thereafter). During the long epoch of Western Colonialism (roughly 16th through the closing of the 19th century), one would think that perhaps the Muslim world in various ways would have benefited from the diverse benefactions which the superior West introduced into various regions of what since then has come to be known as the “Third World”. But then, one remembers how ungrateful, hateful and resistant to innovation and reason Muslims are, due to their mind-stunting Islam. Although it can be said that a certain number of Muslims in various parts of the Muslim world superficially showed signs of benefiting from the superior ways of the West introduced into their world (thus we are reminded of Egyptian Muslims in the early 20th century seeming to be more “modern” or pockets of Algeria seeming to become more civilized due to the occupation of the French for some 150 years), what really happened under the surface was that the strange, foreign world of the West intruded upon the Muslim society & psyche and destabilized them such that while some of them took advantage of this, the organic growth that produced that Western superiority never took root in the Muslim heart and mind — it was only put on like an item of clothing, to be strutted about — all the while the deeper Islamic resentment of the Kuffar continued to percolate and brew the darker concoction of their perennial Jihad — the perennial justification for all their feelings of resentment, revenge, hatred and that perverted paradox of Inferiority Complex/Supremacism. The interpenetration of West and East (Islam), while superficial on the level of what counts (actually assimilating Western values), did cause enormous dislocations and disorientation in Muslim societies, upsetting their ways in many subtle and often far-reaching ways — and only giving ample justification for the Islamic sense that the Other is a baneful influence on the truth of Islam (forever deflecting from their ability to take a hard look in the mirror of self-criticism, a virtue which the West has cultivated so well, it even goes overboard in it).

        This toxic, volatile brew of resentment kept looking for outlets over the centuries, and finally found a complex concatenation of opportunities throughout the 20th century, mostly involving the availability of Western technology, oil money, and the unprecedented (and unprecedentedly stupid) Western policy of inviting millions of Muslims into the West, beginning in the 1960s and increasing thereafter.

        • voegelinian says

          Apr 25, 2015 at 2:58 pm

          So what does my long-winded reply have to do with Clay’s glibly sweeping statement that “… I know that many if not most Muslims do not know what the Koran teaches…” ?

          Well, aside from the fact that Clay can have no way of knowing what “most Muslims know” (a feat of mind-reading more marvelous than anything the Amazing Kreskin used to do!), what my description above alluded to is the superficial phenomenon of dislocation & disorientation, whereby the West over time has destabilized the Muslim world — but only superficially and externally; not on the level where true change occurs, through a society’s internal growth over time, organically changing from within, as the West has done.

          Thus, not only do Muslim societies lack the adventure of internal change and organic growth, they also have had the opportunity to nurse their dark, hateful, psychotic grievances against that Other who has come at them externally to provoke them to try to change (but Islam already has a sophisticated model explaining the Truth, explaining why Muslims are the best of all peoples because of their submission to Allah and His Prophet, and explaining why the Other is evil and must be fought and killed — so no amount of external persuasion, prodding or provocations will ever be enough to really change Muslims on a macro scale (the only scale that matters to our safety & security).

        • voegelinian says

          Apr 25, 2015 at 3:18 pm

          And finally, what I am arguing needs to be supplemented by the fact that a mere “knowledge of the Koran” is not enough for us to gauge whether a Muslim is an Islamic fanatic or not. Muslims do not merely derive their Islam-ness from sitting down and reading the Koran, or from passively hearing the sermons of a “radical cleric”. What is it that makes the Muslim receptive to that fanaticism? It is, we must reasonably conclude (augmenting our reasonable supposition with a mountain of diverse data over the years), a complex cultural process of inculcation involving a multitude of sociological and psychological factors, many of which we in the West do not experience and do not even have. For a Muslim, Islam is “in the air” all around them — it’s part of the cultural “atmospherics”, to use Hugh Fitzgerald’s term*, which form and shape the Muslim (or deform as the case may be).

          * — example: “… the attitudes and atmospherics that the teachings of Islam naturally create…”

          Islam in Africa
          by Hugh Fitzgerald

          http://www.newenglishreview.org/Hugh_Fitzgerald/Islam_in_Africa/

  25. Jae M says

    Apr 25, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    This from a man whose Country executes people regularly. Yup it sure is peaceful when everyone is dead.

  26. duh_swami says

    Apr 25, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    All the way to the bottom…

    Justin…I asked you questions about your gods punishment for sinning gays, and you did everything but answer it…Posting a bunch of links I’m not interested in, is not an answer…I suspect you won’t answer because you are ashamed…Is that right? Are you ashamed?

    • Western Canadian says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 10:08 pm

      If he is not ashamed, he should be. Of a great many things. His vicious ignorance and hatred. His inability to even try to differentiate between the population of the west (or most of us), and the pathetic buffoonery of the self proclaimed elite. His blatant lying about being a Christian, his (failed) efforts to draw attention away from the crimes committed every day in the vile name of islam (RTC)…

      He never answers your questions about punishment for sinning gays (same as for sinning straights, by the way), because he doesn’t know. He is not a Christian, he not knowledgeable about the Old or New books, he is just a hate filled muslim with homosexual obsession. And behavior.

  27. Wallace Brand says

    Apr 25, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
    ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION OF PACIFISTS (1942)

    “Islam’s jihad is a struggle against idolatry, sexual deviation, plunder, repression and cruelty. The war waged by [non-Islamic] conquerors, however, aims at promoting lust and animal pleasures. They care not if whole countries are wiped out and many families left homeless. But those who study jihad will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. All the countries conquered by Islam or to be conquered in the future will be marked for everlasting salvation. For they shall live under [God’s Law] . . . .

    Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back untill they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to [the enemy]? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists that to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to paradise, which can be opened only for holy warriors!

    There are hundreds of other [Koranic] psalms and hadiths [sayings of the prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

    Reprinted in Bostom, “Legacy of Jihad, Holy War and its Effect on Non Muslims” Prometheus Books, Amherst, NY 2005

    • particolor says

      Apr 25, 2015 at 10:58 pm

      OHH !! What A Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts !! 🙁

  28. J D says

    Apr 26, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    I worked in a business owned by Muslims from Pakistan. They allowed me to have my Bible and speak from it with other employees. One day I asked one of the owners this question: “You say that you worship the God of Abraham. I, too, worship the God of Abraham. Then why are you trying to kill me?” His eyes grew large and he replied: “I am not trying to kill you.” I replied: “Since your holy book teaches that I am an infidel and should be killed and you are not trying to kill me, then are you not in violation of the mandates of your religion?” He stared at me and stuttered for words to reply – and he could not! I told him that: “Since this is what Islam teaches, it is NOT a religion of peace and love!” When I spoke of God the Father and His Son, Jesus was the only reply I ever received from them screaming at me: “There is no Father; There is no Son!” BTW, I did not get fired. I worked there for 18 months when God closed down this one business location. Praise God!

  29. Heather says

    Apr 26, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    ‘Peace, love and compassion’. Really? They’d better tell that to the Sultan of Brunei who has introduced Sharia Law.
    Having watched ’60 Minutes’ on TV last night their story says the opposite. Showed people being flogged for adultery and a person in, what looked like a run-down hospital, missing one hand and one foot for stealing. Of course the Sharia Law does not apply to the Sultan or his family. He lives in a house with gold in the carpet and everywhere else. The house has 1,700 bedrooms and is like the most extravagant palace I’ve ever seen. He has over 20 Billion dollars.
    Australia gives hundreds of thousands of dollars to Indonesia each year. I don’t know why or what for. I think they’ve got their own resources and probably richer than Australia. How much does the Brunei give to Indonesia, fellow muslims?
    With a fortune of over 20 Billion dollars that could feed and give fresh water to every starving person in the world.
    Peace, love and compassion……..NOT.

  30. Linda+Henderson says

    Apr 27, 2015 at 2:08 pm

    Islam is a religion of peace. That’s why if somebody was a known Christian in a Mainly Muslim country, other Muslims would make up a lie about them saying they had blasphemed the name of Mohammed ( even though they hadn’t) & have them killed under false charges. That doesn’t sound very peaceful to me.

  31. way says

    Apr 27, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.

    This is not hearsay, and it will scare the life out of you.
    Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) towards the end.

    Joys of Muslim Women
    By Nonie Darwish

    In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child.
    Consummating the marriage by 9.
    The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave)
    and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

    Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.
    To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
    Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry.
    The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family.
    Husbands can beat their wives ‘at will’ and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.

    The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.

    The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.

    In the West World ( America and Britain and Australia ) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her.
    It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

    By passing this on, enlightened women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law ripping the West in Two.
    Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world,
    ripping Western law and liberty in two.

    She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.

    Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978,
    When she was eight years old her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel .
    He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza ..

    When he died, he was considered a “shahid,” a martyr for jihad.
    His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.

    But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing..
    She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.

    In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law – what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

    For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world.
    If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed.
    Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual.
    Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.

    Peace and prosperity for one’s children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules
    Everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

    While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule,
    Sharia teaches two systems of ethics – one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims.
    Building on tribal practices of the seventh century,
    Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.

    While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God,
    Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.

    It’s hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or
    choose to stop being Muslim should be executed.
    Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West,
    such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.

    While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time,
    Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form
    of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

    (In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. And Britain To elect the Government by themselves!
    Rest assured they will do so…
    You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA .. Dearborn Mich. Is one…
    And there are others..) ( Britain has several cities now totally controlled by Muslims)

    I think everyone in Australia, U.S. and Great Britain should be required to read this,
    but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!

    It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful..
    Some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam..
    The peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion.
    While America and Britain is getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives
    of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America .. ( Britain and probably Australia) .

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