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India: 80 Hindu families accept Islam to save their homes from demolition

Apr 12, 2015 7:06 am By Robert Spencer

Hindu persecution Bangladesh“I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah.” (Sahih Muslim 30) So said Muhammad. And if they do not embrace Islam, their property and life are not safe.

“To ‘save’ their houses in Azam’s Rampur, 80 Valmiki families set to embrace Islam,” Indian Express, April 11, 2015 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

Around 80 Valmiki families in Rampur have announced to embrace Islam in order to “save their houses from demolition”. Five of them have even started an indefinite hunger strike against the government’s plan to widen the roads in Topkhana locality, as the municipal body said, by clearing the “encroachments”.

The police have registered a case against 86 members of the Valmiki community for staging an agitation against UP Urban Development Minister Azam Khan, after protests by SP workers.

The issue began on April 6 when municipal authorities marked the houses for demolition at Topkhana locality. SP’s district unit office is located on same road and the civic body is also constructing a multi-storeyed ‘Gandhi Mall’ in the same locality.

“We held the agitation as Valmiki community are living in the locality for 60 years and our houses are in danger. Now, they don’t want us to live near the beautiful mall as our houses are spoiling its beauty,” Eklavya Valmiki, who is named in the FIR, told The Indian Express. He is also an office bearer of Valmiki Basti Bachao Sangarsh Samiti, which is leading the agitation.

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  1. Pundit says

    Apr 12, 2015 at 7:44 am

    What a fascist religion.

    • abad says

      Apr 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      Islam – and Muslims – are Oppressors.

  2. 124andmore says

    Apr 12, 2015 at 7:59 am

    This story seems to be more about eminent domain than islam.

    • Hindu American says

      Apr 12, 2015 at 10:30 am

      Actually, its more than just eminent domain issue (a legal land use concept that has not yet arrived in India). It is a matter of compensation (after all, at the end of the day its all about money). Its widely known that courts will stop redevelopments of illegal settlements if religious minorities are involved. By choosing islam, these settlers will now hope to garner the support from all the islamists in India (20% of the population is thought to practice some form of islam) whose standard modus operandi is and will be to claim “victimhood”. That’s when the negotiations for over the top monetary compensation will commence.

      • Nimrod says

        Apr 12, 2015 at 4:11 pm

        So basically this is just Islamic jihad using Marxist class warfare theory as the mechanism. In other words, there is no conventional justice, only “social justice” where someone must be in some sufficiently victimized group in order to object to anything.

        No wonder Islam loves Marxism so much.

        The really sad thing here is that it seems like, if they just need to be a minority religious group to get their concerns addressed, they ought to be able to just take the five precepts of Buddhism. Then they’d be Buddhist, but that would allow them to continue with all the Hindu practices they want as pretty much none of those are “against” Buddhism.

        I bet that Buddhists get no special treatment though while Islam does.

        • Larry A. Singleton says

          Apr 12, 2015 at 4:20 pm

          Thanks for explaining this. One reason I like JW comments; intelligent and informed input. Immaturity like I find on Yahoo comments is usually at a minimum. One of the things that first attracted me to JW was the comment sections where I got just as much knowledge and info as the articles themselves.

          And, again, it’s comments like this that make me wish JW had a “thumbs up” feature. (Also an autofill for name and email would be nice. And not having to click twice to get out of the page after posting a comment.)

  3. Richie says

    Apr 12, 2015 at 8:42 am

    Islam is the Mafia of religions. Pay them protection money or they will kill you. Join their death cult, or they will kill you

    • Larry A. Singleton says

      Apr 12, 2015 at 4:14 pm

      JW needs a “thumbs up” feature. (Also an autofill for name and email would be nice. And not having to click twice to get out of the page after posting a comment.)

  4. Gary says

    Apr 12, 2015 at 11:11 am

    Muslims misrepresent God…….

    God Is Love

    “Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love. By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the “propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us. By this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.”

    1John4:7-14

    • Nimrod says

      Apr 12, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      Muslims worship Mohammed and Mohammed’s sock puppet version of God.

      When was the last time you heard of Muslims getting upset, rioting, burning, murdering, etc because someone drew an insulting cartoon of God? Pretty much never.

      But draw an insulting cartoon of Mohammed and a bunch of Muslims will start rioting.

      Why? Because they worship Mohammed. The proper term for people like this should be Mohammedians.

      • xxxChurch1000 says

        Apr 13, 2015 at 6:24 pm

        Dear Nimrod. , That has or was the description for muslims for centuries also the expression ”to have turned Turk ” when a ‘ conversion ‘ occurred .

      • xxxChurch100 says

        Apr 13, 2015 at 6:31 pm

        Dear Nimrod,
        Mohammedan was the term used for centuries , and another which is no longer used is
        to ” turn Turk ” to describe a ” conversion ” .

  5. Richie says

    Apr 12, 2015 at 11:26 am

    One would think with Muslims having had their own Islamic state carved out of India (Pakistan) they would leave the Hindus in peace- but it seems Muslims are determined to kill or convert all Hindus. Amazing how Muslims lie and claim that the Hindus in India are the ones with a long history of oppressing and killing Muslims

    • Peggy says

      Apr 13, 2015 at 7:21 am

      Now that the US has graciously given Kosovo to Muslim Albanians they are not going to stop there. There is a lot of Albanians in other parts of Serbia and they are already making noises that they will unify all “their” lands, including parts of Macedonia.
      These savages never stop.
      India lost territory and it’s called Pakistan now. Cashmere is next and parts of India with a sizable Muslim population. They don’t stop. They want the whole world.

  6. Daniel Triplett says

    Apr 12, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    India knows the pain of Muslims like no other country. Tens or hundreds of millions of HIndus have been slaughtered over the centuries by Muslims. The Pakistan partition was supposed to ameliorate the problem, but it didn’t. All that did was spark a nuclear arms race between the two nation states.

    Putin is a thug. We all know that. He’s not a swell guy. But Stalin was much worse, and is arguably the most evil man who ever lived, killing 20,000,000 of his own people alone. But we had to ally with him to extinguish the Nazi ideology. Likewise, we need to ally with Putin to stop Islam. Putin enjoys 85% popularity in Russia, and will remain in power for another 15-20 years. So unless we want to nuke Russia, we’d better figure out a way to play nice together and ally against our common Islamic enemy. He’s too cozy with Iran. We need to get him cozy with us if we’re going to attack Iran.

    We made a mistake by not strangling the Soviet nuclear program while it was still in the cradle, right after WWII. But that genie has long since left the bottle, and we had a decades long expensive Cold War as the consequence. But that’s over now too, thanks to President Ronald Reagan.

    Let’s not repeat the mistake with Iran.

    The fraternity of nuclear armed states is very small, and necessarily exclusive. Muslims have no business belonging to this club (Pakistan must be disarmed ASAP). It’s not about what’s fair; it’s about what’s best for the United States. The US teaches all military officers this strategy. Any POTUS not recognizing this strategic concept should not be POTUS.

    A Cold War with the Muslims isn’t an option. The Mutually Assured Destruction Doctrine won’t work. At the end of the day, the Soviets/Russians love their children as much as we love ours, hence the success of the MAD Doctrine. The Muslims, on the other hand, are apocalyptic martyrs who pound their heads against the pavement five times per day, praying to a false idol, living an absolutely miserable life, yearning for the day they gain entry to Allah’s “paradise.” No music, no humor, no dogs, no photographs, no drinking, no smoking, no drugs, no sexual freedom or enjoyment of sex for women, etc, etc. Their lives really suck, by design, so they’re in a hurry to get to the anything goes afterlife, doing all of Mohammad’s bidding in the process to guarantee admission. They’re people who strap bombs to their young children and send them into coffee shops, then throw parties to celebrate their deaths. They honor kill their daughters for trivial infractions. The mullahs know our nuclear retaliation would destroy them, but they don’t care. That would be a bonus for them actually, because they score extra points with Allah for dying in the process of pleasing him.

    Amb John Bolton says if the US or Israel doesn’t bomb Iran right now, Iran will nuke us first. Those are the only two options according to him. I’ve been saying the same thing for years. Sanctions didn’t stop Japan, Germany, or North Korea, and are irrelevant to Iran too. Sanctions or not, Deal or not, it just doesn’t matter. Obviously, a bit of economic pain won’t deter Iran. Apparently our POTUS, the Dummycrats, and even the naïve GOP Senators all believe sanctions or a non-proliferation deal is the solution. But it’s not.

    It’s time for us to ally with all non-Muslim states, particularly the nuclear armed ones, to extinguish the Islamic ideology permanently. China, India, Russia…all hate Muslims as much as we do. Let’s stop the pissing match with Putin, and acknowledge we all face an existential threat with Islam. Let’s strangle the Islamic ideology while their nuclear program is still in the cradle. An Islamic world full of nukes would be apocalyptic. We can’t let the Iranian nuclear genie out of the bottle. Not unless we’d like to see Tel Aviv, Manhattan, DC, and Los Angeles vaporized, along with the entire World economy and life as we know it.

    With the Alliance, we criminalize Islam within our own borders first. Then we drop one nuke on a random Muslim target every three days. Won’t take long for every Muslim to believe he could be next. Every Muslim government agreeing to criminalize Islam comes off the target list. Wouldn’t take long for everyone to get on board with the program. I estimate a two week operation costing less than $7 Billion. Islam is Sedition and Conspiracy to Murder, so there is plenty of just cause.

    I believe God gave America the unique intellect and resources to build nuclear weapons to destroy evil. Everyone else stole those secrets from us.

    By simply having nuclear weapons, we could intimidate the Soviets. But with the evil of Islam, we must actually use those weapons. Our children will pay a very heavy price if we don’t.

    • Nimrod says

      Apr 12, 2015 at 4:31 pm

      That won’t happen. We’re just going to have to wait for a Muslim country like Iran to launch a nuclear warhead at someone because practically everyone is in denial of reality here.

      You’d think people would have learned the hard way after 9/11, but not enough people were directly affected so they didn’t learn. As a result, people are going to have to learn the much harder way of many more people getting killed by Islam in a thermonuclear manner before they figure it out. There’s just no way around that.

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Apr 12, 2015 at 7:48 pm

        I’m afraid you’re right Nimrod.

        But if you elect me POTUS, I promise I’ll make it happen in my first month in office. I’m 46, and although not a Senator or Governor, I’m one of the few Republicans with military combat experience.

        You can be the VP.

    • Peggy says

      Apr 13, 2015 at 7:30 am

      You’re wrong about Russia. Russia is not an enemy of US. It’s the other way around.
      During WWII Soviet Union lost 20 million people and liberated Auschwitz and stopped the Nazis. Nazis got into a lot of trouble trying to attack Russia.
      Now if the US wasn’t so paranoid about Russia, especially after the collapse of Soviet Union they would have a decent ally now. Russia never fought against the US so there was no reason for concern. The US had a chance to correct their path in the 90s when the civil war in Yugoslavia erupted but instead they chose to back the Bosnian Muslims and Muslim Albanians. That gave a clear signal to Russia they are going to back their enemy, and expand NATO when they gave their word they would not.
      Maybe they can still fix this if they admitted their huge mistake and talked to Putin. Somehow US government NEVER admits being wrong and they will only dig themselves deeper and risk more and more Christians being killed including in their own country.
      BTW, Serbia was an ally during both world wars and saved hundreds of trapped US airmen at a very huge risk and cost. Looks like Muslims were still going to be favourites even if it meant angering Russia.

      • Linda Rivera says

        Apr 13, 2015 at 10:23 am

        Without any justification whatsoever, America and the EU have been extremely hostile to Russia in the last year or two. This led Russia to believe that America was going to wage an all out attack on Russia. Quite a number of people (non-Russians) have been alarmed that America was going to start World War Three by attacking Russia.

    • Linda Rivera says

      Apr 13, 2015 at 10:27 am

      If genocidal Iran isn’t dealt with very soon, we are going to face a nuclear holocaust. Most unfortunately for Israel, America, and the Free World, a Muslim occupies the White House.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 13, 2015 at 6:59 pm

      Daniel, Russia has been enabling Iran’s nuclear program for years.

      Putin is not going to help us stop Islam.

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Apr 14, 2015 at 2:42 pm

        I agree with your first sentence, but am not as sure about the second.

        The Russian/Iranian relationship continues to be very disturbing. Russia just sold them almost $1 Billion worth of SA-300 anti-aircraft missiles (highly lethal).

        The problem is leadership though, the way I see it. We need a president who recognizes the strategic big picture and this important point in history.

        I think we can both agree Iran must be stopped. If you believe John Bolton, the only way to stop them is with a military strike, ASAP. In my opinion, as a USAF officer and six year war vet, the logistics, air defenses, overflight and air-refueling constraints, forward basing limitations, and fortification of Iranian targets, all make a successful conventional attack difficult, if not impossible. Particularly if the objective is permanent dismantlement of the Iranian nuclear weapon program.

        Netanyahu is on record saying if Israel has a one-on-one conventional war with Iran, Israel can at best stall Iranian nuke weapons by two years.

        We don’t know what we don’t know about the Iranian nuke production facilities. But what we do know is they know the limits of our “bunker-buster” MOAB ordnance, and have built their most important facilities at a depth and strength so as to preclude destruction from this weapon.

        This means tactical or strategic nuclear ordnance will be required, if our objective is permanent dismantlement. And this is just speaking of the smaller problem of the Iranian nuclear program, and not the larger problem of global Islamic jihad.

        A conventional war with Iran will cause a whole lot of Allied casualties. Such a war will be nothing like fighting tribesmen in the canyons of Afghanistan. Therein lies the advantage of nuclear weapons. They bring rapid victory to the conflict, and save American lives.

        We have not the resources nor public will to invade and occupy all Muslim sovereignties to stop Islam. We can’t educate the Muslims out of Islam. They must be forced out of it.

        We must face unpleasant facts. We face a foe on a scale the World has never seen. And the strategy to defeat that foe will be unprecedented.

        Americans by nature don’t like to war. As you’ll recall, SE Asia was overrun by the Japanese, and Europe was annihilated by Hitler, and Americans still didn’t want to get involved. Were it not for the attack on Pearl Harbor, who knows how strong our adversaries would have become, and how abstinent we would have remained?

        The point is, we need a president to form these alliances, and convince the American people of the scope and scale of the threat, and what we must do to counter it. The president’s job is to convince the peaceful public that war is required. And today, it certainly is.

        When the nukes start flying, either ours or Israel’s, the World will get real excited real quick. We don’t want any doubt how the other nuclear armed states will react. If Putin doesn’t want to help us defeat Islam, we must at least convince him to stay out of the conflict, and stop rearming or defending Iran.

        A competent POTUS could do this. FDR was able to play nice with Stalin, and a strong POTUS today could do the same with Putin, a much more reasonable man than Stalin ever was.

        We spend a lot of time in the comments of this website discussing how awful Islam is, and how much we hate it. But we don’t talk much about how to solve the problem. Perhaps it’s time to talk out loud about what really needs to happen here.

        I’ve laid out my vision for the future in other posts. I’ve tried to articulate the need to end Islam, and a strategy to do it. I can repeat it if you have interest.

        You’re a smart woman, and spend much time studying Islamic jihad. I’ve spent a lot of time reading your insightful posts and respect your opinion. How would you advise the President and American public?

        1. Do you consider Iran a threat? If so, how would you counter the threat?

        2. Do you consider the larger issue of expanding global Islam and the jihad a threat? Would you contain the Islamic ideology, or extinguish it, as with Nazism? What’s your strategy?

  7. AtheistFromOrissaIndia says

    Apr 12, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    India was the first country to ban Salman Rushdie’s Satanic Verses. Taslima Nasreen who fled Bangladesh and was living in Kolkata, India was ‘expelled’ from that city by the Communist local government. She seeked protection in Delhi, but was arrested. Ultimately she left for Sweden.

  8. Joseph says

    Apr 12, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    Embrace Islam to save their property and their lives, only to lose their immortal soul to the torments of hell.

    AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE??

  9. Abu Fatimah says

    Apr 13, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    I don’t get it. The oppressors here are the hindu indian government. I dont even see where Muslims are involved here. These 80 people converted to islam because of a hindu government. Someone please clarify this story as it makes no sense

  10. gravenimage says

    Apr 13, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    India: 80 Hindu families accept Islam to save their homes from demolition
    ………………………..

    And this happened *in India*. Why is the Indian government not protecting the homes of these Hindus?

    • AtheistFromOrissaIndia says

      Apr 13, 2015 at 11:42 pm

      >>Why is the Indian government not protecting the homes of these Hindus?
      The Indian government usually protects the Muslims as they are ‘vote banks’. The entire Muslim community (12% of the population) votes based on Islamic issues only, not economy, politics, etc. like others do.

  11. Moshe Akiva says

    Apr 13, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    Oh, and there is no compulsion in Islam, hey?

  12. Coolhead says

    Apr 16, 2015 at 2:57 am

    Please read other news site as well on this issue. I think this site is too provocative and full of false news.
    Most people who got evicted before were Muslims so if they think by converting to Islam they won’t take their land is utter stupidity.
    And state has announced that they not gonna take their land but still they went ahead with the conversion. So it’s their free will. Let others choose their own religion. Freedom of speech and selecting a religion shoudnr be for one part of society it should be for all.

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