Time for more “dialogue.” That will fix this right up. “Terror Cell In Italy Reportedly Planned Attack On Pope Benedict,” by Tom Namako, Buzzfeed, April 24, 2015:
The Italian government said Friday it was arresting 18 people accused of working with al-Qaeda to carry out terror attacks on Pope Benedict XVI and the Pakistani government.
Some of those arrested allegedly boasted that they were Osama bin Laden’s former bodyguards, the Associated Press reported.
The cell comprised Pakistanis who were operating out of the Italian island of Sardinia since 2005, the lead investigator told NBC News.
“In a wiretapped conversation, one of them…boasted that Bin Laden sent him personally to Italy,” investigator Mario Carta said. “We believe they were in touch with people who knew the whereabouts of bin Laden, to the point that they would frequently ask over the phone about his health while he was in hiding.”
The group allegedly planned one 2010 attack on Pope Benedict while he was at the Vatican, but didn’t carry it out, NBC reported. They also planned to topple the Pakistani government….
Nathan says
The pope’s a dead man walking, but why topple the Pakistani government? They are letting islam run riot through their country. Who do they want to replace the Pakistani government with? Satan?
WTF!
Jay Airahs says
Islam is a dead religion walking.
When Muslims insist on “No god but Allah” it is an admission that Islam is such a disgrace to humanity that it cannot even stand on its own merits and Muslims are forced to desecrate and persecute others in the hope that by lowering others it might somehow lift Islam above of its well deserved gutter reputation.
Who else is killing apostates?
Plamen says
From Islam point of view, to kill a Pope is somehow more important than to kill president of America.
Shane says
The current President of the USA is on the side of the Muslims, even Muslims are smart enough to know that killing Obama will bring back massive retaliation against them.
profitsbeard says
Benedict said: “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil…“, quoting a Byzantine religious figure.
I guess the jihadis haven’t forgiven him for noticing.
Avenger says
@Profitsbeard
Pope Benedict was quoting the third to the last emperor of Byzantium, The Emperor Manual II Palaiologos.
I believe it was part of an inspirational speech he had given to his soldiers before doing battle with Ottoman Turks.
Pope Benedict was so truly brave and correct to quote this Byzantine emperor. I have great respect for this man.
Peggy says
Really? Isn’t he the same man who said that Islam is a religion of peace and what happened in Paris was basically their own fault? Not exact words, but you get the gist.
Maybe now he’ll get it through his head that what he said was crap.
Peggy says
Ignore that. For some reason I thought it was the present one.
Yes, protect the previous one and let the present one go unprotected because he totally trusts the Muslims and since he hasn’t said anything bad about them he should be safe……well.
Charli Main says
The current Pope is pleading with and also criticising the EU and others for not doing more to go out and ” rescue” the tidal wave of Somali Muslim migrants heading for Europe.
” They are people just like us ” he said. NO they are not. They are people that would slit your Holiness throat and turn Saint Peter´s into a mosque faster than you could say Allah Akhbar.
Plamen says
Current pope Francis I is well aware of the many Muslims among migrants to Europe and what threat they might pose. However tens of thousands die every year in Mediterranean waters and he, too, speaks politics.
Pope’s statement on 100th anniversary called it Genocide.
EU parliament debate (that adopted resolution on Genocide) a week ago expressed support to Pope’s statement on Genocide.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/16/world/europe/european-parliament-urges-turkey-to-recognize-armenian-genocide.html?_r=0
Last year, Pope delivered a message at the EU parliament: “Rediscover your core values!”
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/27/guardian-view-pope-europe-rediscover-values
Avenger says
Peggy, I understand you meant this current Pope but looking back even Pope Benedict was pretty limp with all the apologizing after his speech at Regensburg. I did admire his use of this quote and walking away from the scandals at the Vatican.
However, Pope Francis is accelerating the death of Europe. I wish he would accelerate his own retirement
TH says
When the Paris massacre of the Charlie Hebdo folks happened, he was already in retirement and no longer makes public statements.
Plamen says
Pope Benedict in 2006 was quoting the Emperor in his conversation with a Persian representative on the subject of Christianity and Islam:
http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg.html
Obviously, that has been Pope’s true belief.
Indeed, Pope spoke about “Islam is a religion of peace”. But it was just a part of his policy to find reconciliation and diplomacy with Islam.
When, after his Regensburg speech, several Catholic and Protestant priests in Turkey were murdered, he, again, was forced to mention that those had not been political or religious murders…
TH says
It was a Byzantine Emperor.
Wilypagan says
I wonder why Pope Benedict resigned. There is so much the general populace does not know.
Diane Harvey says
I’m worried. When Bishop McManus (RCC, Worcester, MA) learns about Muslims planning to attack the Vatican and murder whoever might be found within, he’ll likely return to his cups. “Me! I could have been there, in the Vatican, on the very day these people attacked.”
Drinking is so soothing when you realize that your interfaith dialoguing is going nowhere and that the only one being fooled by Muslims is you.
Nathan says
We need a Christian army to protect to pope! We could call them ‘the crusaders’. Yeah!
Well, not today, but it’s coming….
noellsq says
I understand that this is not a nice thing to say but maybe if they are sucessful the Christians will rise up and react to this cancer
Nathan says
Nah. It will take horrible men to do the horrible deeds, thankfully we are full of ‘horrible men’ who just can’t wait to do ‘the horrible deeds’.
And I salute them. Just their presence gives me hope, we haven’t even started yet!
noellsq says
They will not be horrible people they will be people with convictions of what is right and wrong. It will be people who are tired of being sh–ed on. It will be people who will want to on the offense rather than defense.
Nathan says
That’s what i meant, sorry if it didn’t come across as that.
I meant honourable men doing difficult tasks.
I was just saying… we can do what’s got to be done, just as well as anyone. We’ve slaughtered millions, 20,000 will be a Sunday excursion.
Not everyone in Europe is a lefty, islamic, ball sucking scrote. That’s all!
Wellington says
I miss Benedict XVI as Pope. He was a realist, not just about Islam but about most everything. By contrast, the present Pope is shaping up as an anomaly in papal history, to wit, a fool.
There have been all kinds of Popes, whether it be one who was a good canon lawyer, or a first-rate diplomat, or a power-player (e.g., Innocent III), or a scholar (Benedict XIV), or a saint, or a great administrator, or a warrior (e.g., Julius II), or one with great taste in art, or a bad man (these last two I mentioned were often combined with a number of Renaissance popes, Alexander VI most forcefully coming to mind here), but in the two-thousand year history of the papacy extremely few that we know of were fools. Francis I is one of them I believe.
As for Muslims wanting to murder the former Pope, the fact of the matter is that I would have been shocked if mucho numbers of Muslims hadn’t wanted this. Only the ignorant or liars would contend otherwise I submit.
Mirren10 says
Hi, Wellington, hope you’re doing well.
I notice the two articles by that taqyya artist, Zakaria Fellah, have disappeared. Any idea why ?
Wellington says
No, I don’t know why, Mirren, and I asked that very question on a different thread, the 2:19 P.M. article by Robert Spencer on the Islamic State threatening to kill additional Christians like they did Ethopian Christians unless they convert or pay the jizya.
Not sure what’s going on, but I do want to maintain, as I already did on those two articles that have disappeared, that I completely back you in your approach to Zakaria Fellah. He is only one of two possible things: a taqiyya artist or actually sincere in what he averred and, if the latter, still indicative of just how confused any Muslim still trying to be a Muslim has to be, for instance by way of accusing a non-Muslim (in this instance you) of wanting genocide committed on Muslims as a way of not dealing with the issue at hand, to wit, the multitude of crap aplenty that exists in Islamic texts and doctrine which make Islam beyond hope, beyond redemption.
Mirren10 says
Thanks, Wellington.
jewdog says
Notice to All Al Qaeda Morons:
NO! The Pope is NOT a Jew. That is NOT a kippa on his head. The Pope is CATHOLIC. Get it?
Paleologos says
Just to set the record straight …
Benedict XVI, my hero, NEVER apologized for his famous Regensburg speech,
http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg.html
… in part …
… The emperor must have known that surah 2, 256 reads: “There is no compulsion in religion”. According to some of the experts, this is probably one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under threat. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur’an, concerning holy war. Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the “Book” and the “infidels”, he addresses his interlocutor with a startling brusqueness, a brusqueness that we find unacceptable, on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying: “Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”[3] The emperor,
after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. “God”, he says, “is not pleased by blood – and not acting reasonably (σὺν λόγω) is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats… To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death…”.[4]
http://www.danielpipes.org/3968/pope-benedict-criticizes-islam
… “In the Italian original, however, Benedict says only sono rammaricato, which translates as “I am disappointed” or “I regret.” …
muslim apologists ALSO CONVENIENTLY FORGET a Roman Catholic nun who spent her life helping muslims, was murdered to send a message to Benedict to tone down his anti-islam rhetoric.
http://www.religionnews.com/2014/09/10/regensburg-redux-pope-benedict-xvi-right-islam-analysis/
Not only were moderate Muslims offended but extremists attacked churches in the West Bank, killed an Italian nun in Somalia, and beheaded a priest in Iraq. Benedict’s allies saw those episodes as proving the pope’s point, and they cheered his willingness to “get tough” with Islam. “Benedict the Brave,” the Wall Street Journal called him.
Veritas says
Pope Francis approved military action against the Islamic State last August under the just war doctrine, and renewed the call recently with France taking the cause to the UN. He must dialogue as a first and third course of action to save the lives of abused Christians in the Middle East. Read “The Price to Pay, A Muslim Converts to Christianity” to see how precarious the lives of Christians are in Muslim countries. Or maybe you all just don’t give a damn about Christian lives in Muslim countries as you sit in your armchairs and make snarky comments about dialogue. PS Al Qaeda has put Pope Francis on their hit list. He has bigger balls than so many of you carping wussies.