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Netherlands: Families of those who joined Islamic State to sue government

Apr 16, 2015 11:57 pm By Robert Spencer

dutchThe government should have done more to stop them, you see. Should these Muslim families have done more to stop them? Should they have not taught them the virtue of jihad against Infidels? Should they have tried to disabuse them of their jihadist notions? Of course not. It’s always the Infidel’s fault, you greasy Islamophobe. Don’t you know that by now?

“Dutch families of those who joined ISIL to sue gov’t.,” World Bulletin, April 15, 2015:

The families of individuals that ran away to join ISIL are preparing to file a lawsuit against the Dutch government, local media reported Wednesday.

According to Dutch media, families gathered together in order to plan to sue the Dutch government for not making the necessary efforts to prevent their children from traveling to Syria to join the armed group ISIL.

Mohammad Nidalha, a resident of the southern city of Leiden whose son reportedly traveled to Syria to join ISIL, leads the initiative.

Nidalha claimed that he had informed the police as soon as he found out that his 20-year-old son had traveled to Syria to join ISIL. Yet, he said, the police did not do anything.

Nidalha, who claims he has spoken with nine families so far, said he started the initiative to prevent other families from suffering like him.

He was quoted as saying, “The lawsuit will not bring back my son back but I am doing this to prevent other families to go through the same problems.”

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  1. Peggy says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 12:49 am

    News for him, his son was an adult and made choices.
    What did he do to prevent his son from becoming so hateful and insane? What slimy lawyer would even take these cases?
    Seriously, if these scumbags win then the judges should be sacked.

    • Bamaguje says

      Apr 17, 2015 at 3:29 am

      Indeed, any competent Judge ought to summarily throw out this frivolous utterly stupid law suit.
      The Muslim families brainwashed their children in Islam, thereby rendering the youths vulnerable to ISIS propaganda.
      How can they then blame the infidel Dutch government for their children taking their Islam to it’s logical Jihad conclusion?

      • Andy says

        Apr 20, 2015 at 4:48 am

        the slimy lawyer that takes this case will undoubtedly be a muslim himself as there would be no lawyer that isn’t muslim that would be willing to take on such a preposterous case

        • FatherJon says

          Apr 20, 2015 at 7:09 pm

          Well said Andy. Sentiments with which I totally agree. Any lawyer who takes on this case is as bad as an ambulance chaser. In fact they probably could be classed as ‘ambulance chasers’ with their prospects for a healthy delivery exceedingly remote.

    • Laura says

      Apr 17, 2015 at 5:23 am

      Make no mistake, there will be no shortage of ‘slimy lawyers’ willing to take these cases on…but maybe the Dutch government could counter-sue, or even deport the entire families of the Jihadists, on the reasonable assumption that they present a security risk?
      The one thing that muslims in western democracies fear is…deportation, we should use it more often.

      • Ron Austin says

        Apr 17, 2015 at 9:10 am

        Excellent idea Laura. The parents are responsible. They should pass a law that the parents and families of Jihadists will be deported and not allowed back in the country.

    • Renee says

      Apr 17, 2015 at 8:27 am

      There will be plenty of lawyers that will take their case, no worries. And the Dutch will pay them, no worries. “walk all over us and we will still smile”

    • Glenn Partridge says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 5:54 am

      There seems to be a case of criminal child neglect against the parents surely.

  2. Westman says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 1:46 am

    A very confusing bunch of Muslims in the Netherlands.

    They kill opposition such as Theo Van Gogh, double the crime rate, insist on the prosecution of MP Geert Wilders who warned the leaders to stop muslim immigration and monitor Mosques, and then they want to sue the government because their radicalized children left the country for ISIS.

    Whose books, doctrines, and Imams inspired these kids? The Dhimmi schools? The insanely, all cultures equal, liberalism of the Netherlands? The speech laws used particularly on those who speak about the dangers of Islamic dogma?

    No one need slander the prophet of Islam because he left a historical account, accepted by Islamic scholars, that accurately describes his character, militancy, and murders. Those jihadi children are simply following his example.

    • Lia Wissing says

      Apr 17, 2015 at 6:23 am

      The Netherlands’ lawyer, who takes on the defence of the state, should ask: Are these your children? Did you raise them islamic? Did you allow them access to a mosque? The State is counter-suing you, the families, for raising terrorists on our soil. Those found guilty will be deported.

  3. Keith says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 2:32 am

    If they don’t sue the government it might mean that they have to accept some responsibility for the actions of their children, grown up or not. Also how are they going to be able to fund those children whilst they are doing their Jihad and what about funding the next load of murderers, sorry I mean Jihadis going to show how peaceful, loving and caring the Religion of Peace is.

    • David says

      Apr 19, 2015 at 11:55 am

      You are already funding it. The mosques, the Imams, the Muftis, the Jihad…… Its called Halal food certification. Boycott it, you will be surprised how many products you would think have the label, multiply it by 10.

      • FatherJon says

        Apr 19, 2015 at 6:18 pm

        Halal certification and where the money goes is at the heart of many people’s concerns about the creeping threat of radical Islam into our peaceful countries, helping to finance wayward youths to go and join ISIS.
        Politicians everywhere should be tasked with investigation this and releasing the information widely instead of shushing us up with anodyne reassurances that there’s no problem.

  4. Baucent says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 2:33 am

    Doesn’t this show the victim mentality of these muslims in Europe? So why didn’t he get on a plane and go to Syria for search for his son? Why is it the Dutch’s state’s responsibility? Unbelievable arrogance.

    It reminds me of the case of the father in Britain who complained the Police didn’t do enough to stop his daughter leaving to join ISIS. He was latter himself exposed in a video of Jihadists and Islamists. I suspect hypocrisy again in this latest case.

  5. No Fear says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 3:51 am

    Mohammed always blamed the kuffar for all his woes.
    Like Hitler , Mohammed always had the view that his problems were due to those people who were not fanatical enough in their belief in the “glorious leader”.

  6. Unbelievable says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 4:53 am

    Perhaps the Government should turn the tables and sue the parents for raising terrorists.

    • Jack HOLAN says

      Apr 17, 2015 at 5:31 am

      Good idea

      • Gerredina Kovac says

        Apr 17, 2015 at 5:46 am

        I agree this is just their victim mentality and the political correctness of the government is probably going to do some soul searching, give in to their demands, make the Dutch suffer and give up their rights. It just shows you how scared the governments are running of the noise makers instead of running them out of the country, send them back and see if they have a better life back home in their own country. And oh don’t forget to cut of their finances.

  7. Jack Holan says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 5:29 am

    These Muslim parents living under the Dutch system of government don’t get it. This is not a regime like the one they came from where police can just arrest you without you having committed a crime just that you might do so in the future. Also these are adults in the eyes of the law not children. Good luck wasting your time and energy on this lawsuit.

  8. Steven says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 7:07 am

    Same as in Australia when a father of female ISIL died along her husband in Syria, wanted to sue Federal Government for not prevent her daughter travel to join Islamic State. A sister of this female ISIL already aware of her plan but never tell her father. He also said that he regularly pray hard for one of our Prime Minister’s daughters to die (by accident whatever) as revenge. The muslims are sick and do not deserve any freedom in the west. Only way is deport the muslims!

    • ermin says

      Apr 17, 2015 at 7:22 am

      Yes deport them & immigrate instead those who don’t want to have anything to do with Islam

  9. FatherJon says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 7:53 am

    The absurdity is overwhelmingly ridiculous, but these people live in their own fairyland. I’m giving it 48 hours before the local Muslim apologists here in Australia try that stunt too. They’re already ‘franchising’ out the responsibilities onto government for not putting enough money into deterrence programs, whatever they’er likely to be.

  10. Joseph says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 10:33 am

    If you buy a car and it is defective, it don’t work, you send it back to the manufacturer. You send the whole thing back, seats, engine and doors, the WHOLE car back.
    Obviously the situation with Muslims is NOT working. Send every last one of them back. Then they might get the idea that their smog puking ideas and ideals are not wanted anywhere in the free world.

    If I move to Germany, Italy or Croatia I would be expected to learn the language and customs of my adopted country, NOT the country to learn my way of life. Muslims have to give up the old and learn to be in sync with their new home, not the other way around. If they can’t do that here is your ticket back to the #hithole you came from, never to return. YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE AND YOU FAILED.
    GOODBYE
    GOOD RIDDANCE
    LEAVE….DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS.
    MUSLIM HYPOCRITES…ALL OF THEM.

  11. Myxlplik says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 11:26 am

    Can non-Muslims sue the government for allowing so many barbarians who bring this retarded culture into our countries?

  12. Linda Rivera says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 11:57 am

    Muslim imports, the parents of TERRORIST CHILDREN have come up with a new way of getting money off hated infidels. Sue the hated Netherlands government! Devout Muslim parents aren’t to blame for raising their terrorist offspring to obey Quran commands to wage violent jihad. The infidel government is to blame!

    At the same time, Muslims play their never ending role of, “I’M MUSLIM. I’M A VICTIM”.

    Deport all these conniving, ungrateful, parasitic infidel-hater families back to their home countries now.

  13. HarveyMushman says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    I was visiting a Dutch friend in Rotterdam 20 years ago and as we were driving around the city she was pointing out all the muslim men just hanging around on the streets and she said it was going to be a huge problem in the future as they don’t assimilate and just take resources from the Government and commit crimes….boy was right….

    • Renee says

      Apr 17, 2015 at 8:24 pm

      I pointed out the same to my American friend and was ridiculed back then, but now they don’t talk so loud.

  14. profitsbeard says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    “The Downfall of the Netherlands” continues. But it can be stopped. Shining homegrown examples are needed.

    In the spirit of the Memories Pizza success, if you would like to help preserve the memory of two Dutch WW II Resistance fighters who risked their lives for five years and rescued those being hunted by the Nazis- unlike Obama who abandons people to be killed by similar savages- here is a GoFundMe- WW II HEROES MEMORIAL BOOK link http://www.gofundme.com/s4v9sus to help remind the world that there are true heroes in desperate times and that a book of their bravery should be produced and a record of such courage preserved for History.

    Please spread this link around anywhere you think it would fit.

    Their “list” was shorter than Schindler’s, but, as the Talmud says: “He who saves a single life saves an entire world“.

    Thanks.

  15. Feathers says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 1:12 pm

    When I read this I naturally thought it meant they were going to sue the Islamic State. NOT the Netherlands. Good grief.
    There is NOTHING they wont do for money is there? NOTHING they wont stick their noses into.
    Nobody they wont try to blame for their own lack.
    Like Billy Connelly says in his comedy routine ‘ there is something wrong with people who only read one book’.
    I’ve seen enough to know that muslims don’t know what manners are. Please and thank you isn’t in their vocabulary. They are rude, pushy, loud, obnoxious, demanding, self centred, selfish and just a big pain in the bum. Not to mention backward thinking and stupid.

    • Westman says

      Apr 17, 2015 at 3:43 pm

      Feathers,

      You’ve just described the mentality of a child: rude, pushy, loud, obnoxious, demanding, self centred, and selfish.

      Listen to some of the videos on memritv.org that have translations. What you will see and hear are grown adults, with good vocabularies and the behavioral attitude and mentality of a early-pubescent teenager. Particularly amusing was an Egyptian cleric referring to the “backward” Saudis who he says, “still belive the world is flat”. Of course, he believes that one day the Sun will rise in the West, which any university physics student can show will never happen with anything remaining alive on the planet.

      It seems so obvious that only the child-minded could believe that Islam gives them the chosen status in humanity and all the earth’s bounty is theirs after 400 hundred years of being surpassed by the classically educated world. Reading only one book and listening to the Imans helps reinforce the irrationality of Islamic doctrines.

      Of course, there are the cunning and brilliant among them who make their living off the Ummah while the majority of the Ummah seem to be easily frenzied and take the risks.

      When Islamic armies clash it seems to be more of an incompetent angry blood bath on all sides than anything strategic. And when they are opposed by Western or Israeli armies they fade quickly in spite having some of the best military equipment.

      The ME makes more sense if we think of the militants as, in the majority, composed of children with weapons.

  16. crankywhitewoman says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Perhaps they should sue the mosques these jihadists attended. Or how about the publishing houses that published the Qurans used by the jihadists? Or how about twitter, since ISIS uses it as a recruiting tool? How about suing Al Gore, since according to him, he invented the Internet? I could go on, but I’m sure you get the idea.

  17. BlueRaven says

    Apr 17, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    “The lawsuit will not bring back my son back but I am doing this to prevent other families to go through the same problems.”

    This is double-edged Jihad. There will be lots of cases if this Son of a beach wins. I don’t think any Governmenr is that dumm to let him get away with this nonsense. No Government in the West will allow this case to become an example for a stream of similar cases.

    Islam makes people sick. There are over one billion examples in the world.

  18. boocat says

    Apr 18, 2015 at 3:16 am

    These people need to have their citizenship revoked and be deported.

  19. General says

    Apr 18, 2015 at 3:56 am

    There really is a simple solution to the immigration problem in Europe.

    Phase one all new immigrants must sign a legally binding oath to adopt the language, culture and Democratic traditions of the host nation and not take part in any activity which undermines them.

    Phase two implement a balanced immigration policy which includes intake from Christian, Hindu and other religious backgrounds other than Islam to counter future Islamic dominance.

    Phase three the indiginous European populations across the board must take responsibility for it’s own survival and have more children. Failure to perpetuate the gene pool could mean the end of the West Europeans and their many and various sub cultures.

    Immigrants with non Islamic backgrounds can act as counter weights against the existing Islamic population and thus quell the ambitions of Islamic triumphalists while giving others the chance to contribute to Europe; who appreciate the opportunity and do not want to subplant the host nation/s.

    Moslems found to be in breach of their binding oath will find themselves and their families deported. Faithful Moslems hate man made Democratic institutions in favour of their “devinly inspired” Sharia and a Califate with a Theocratic dictator; so will either not sign the oath and so bar themselvs from legal entry to Europe or at some stage break it and face the consequences.

    As a matter of public policy it would also be advantageous to dispurse incoming groups to speed the cultural assimilation process by avoiding the creation of gettos and the No Go areas we see currenty disfiguring many European cities.After all it only really takes one generation to turn a West African in to a Frenchman for example.

    • FatherJon says

      Apr 18, 2015 at 8:39 am

      Too late for all that, the enemy is no longer just knocking at the front door, they’re inside the perimeter.

  20. General says

    Apr 18, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    FatherJon I respect your perspective but perhaps you might be open to reconsidering whether or not it is to late to take remedial action.

    The first step should be for concerned citizens of each European state to contact their Parliamentary representatives and express their concerns.

    In order to retain their seats politicians will have to enter in to dialogue with their constituents and be forced to recognise there is a problem and that legitimate concerns expressed by individuals and groups concerning Islamisation are not always thinly disguised forms of discrimination.

    Use the ballot box vote for candidates that support ending immigration from Islamic countries.

    Remember politicians have a responsibility to maintain social coherance and inclusiveness. They appear to pander to Islamists in order to maintain peace and avoid social breakdown especially with a large group who are very sensitive about their religious totems.

    There is still time to retrieve the situation but politicians not constrained by political correctness have to be voted in by the constituents and effective management of immigration which is of course a euphamism for ending Islamic immigration and implementing a policy of balanced and varied immigration avoiding a predominance of any one group and based upon the actual economic needs of each individual European state.

    Ultimately policies need to be in place which result in more children being produced. Perhaps ending abortion on demand might be a good place to start combined with increased state support through the taxation system to help families financially as they grow and withdrawing automatic access to state social security payments for those who have not contributed via the taxation systrem.

    It’s not like we are in a castle and the enemy have broken through the walls…..there is plenty that can be done but the political mindset needs to change and that can only be achieved throuigh the Democratic process.

    • FatherJon says

      Apr 19, 2015 at 12:06 am

      <<>>

      I disagree with your point of view. The ‘enemy’ are well within the castle walls. Just take a look around the suburbs and identify which ones have Muslim families. They’re here and they won’t go away.

  21. SpiritOf1683 says

    Apr 19, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    How about the Dutch Government rounding up these families and throwing THEM out? So this is what our troops made those sacrifices for 70 years ago.

  22. General says

    Apr 19, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    SpiritOf1683 I see you are a Jan Sobieski devotee; the Polish King who saved Vienna from conquest by the Ottoman Turks Sept 11th 1683. Why does that date sound familiar…….

    Strong sentiment but hardly realistic. Why are West European’s having either no children or so few they are failing to produce enough offspring to replace the previous generation ?

    That is the heart of the problem because a falling birth rate is the engine that powers increased immigration. Surely the answer is to control immigration (which is necessary or the economy of those effected EU states effectively Europe will collapse) by increasing the diversity of those granted entry ie increase the number of non Muslim immigrants to act as the counter weight to those Muslim immigrants already in the EU and cease immigration from Islamic majority states.

    Drop the Abortion on demand culture, increase state financial support for families producing children.and once and for all drop the pretence of multi culturalism and instead put a heavy emphasis on immigrant assimilation and controlled settlement to avoid self contained, self sustaining Gettos’ and no go areas.

    What do you think……?

    • Jack HOLAN says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 7:08 am

      Some great ideas however selling it to the majority government coalition block won’t de an easy task. It can be done but don’t underestimate American internal political interference disclosed during American attempts to defeat Netanyahu in Israel. The same is being done on a smaller scale in Europe and American Leftists are huge fans of multiculturalism.

  23. General says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    Hay Jack (Didn’t want to say Hi Jack incase I gave your NSA a collective heart attack lol) I am a great admirer of European culture and it’s heirs which includes the US particularly it’s constitution. You will appreciate as an outside observer it depresses me no end when I see Executive order after order being put in place circumventing the very freedoms America has defended throughout most of it’s existence.

    I see that the corporate interest has foremost influence in the Federal Government. Therefore I support working at State level electing public representatives willing to do what is necessary to resist political encrouchment by the Federal Government – Think FEMA camps and oher threats to Democracy and democratic freedoms posed by outside forces such as Saudi backed agencies attempting to ingratiate Sharia in to the American legal system.

    It does not help that the Corporate Globalist agenda has created a situatiion within the US where 50 to 60 million citizens find themselves dependent on the Federal Government for food stamps because what wiould have been their jobs have been exported to China effectively making them political clients of the political establishment.

    I do not think ending food stamps is the solution but ending the exporting of American jobs to China definitely is. Most probably a third force a new political entity is required to effect a course correction one which will balance corporate and citizen interests equitably. One that will end the scandal of corporate political campaign contributions which effectively has killed Democracy in America and dump the Federal Reserve Bank a den of thieves if ever there was one. If nothing else get this right.

    When the true voice of America is allowed to be heard through the ballot box the political polarization we see today will vanish and real progress can be made towards healing America’s ills.

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