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Robert Spencer, PJM: ‘Some Real Bad Bitches’ Or Loyal Citizens of the Islamic State?

Apr 6, 2015 11:34 pm By Robert Spencer

noelle_velentzas_asia_siddiqiOver at PJ Lifestyle, I discuss the latest jihad terror arrests in New York, and the mosque that the arrested women attended:

“Why can’t we be some real bad bitches?” Noelle Velentzas, a 28-year-old convert to Islam, asked her friend, Asia Siddiqui, who was also a Muslim. Velentzas said to Siddiqui that people should think of them both as “citizens of the Islamic State.” And so in due course they set out to prove that they were both – “bad bitches” and good Islamic State citizens – by plotting jihad attacks in the U.S.

Velentzas considered herself a citizen of the Islamic State, but she was impatient. It was expensive, difficult and risky to make one’s way all the way over there, and anyway there was no need: a citizen of the Islamic State could “make history” by “pleasing Allah” right in the United States. And what would please Allah more than the murder of a large number of infidels? – which is exactly what she and Siddiqui set out to accomplish.

The good citizens didn’t realize, however, that their fellow jihadi with whom they were discussing the logistics of various bomb plots was actually working for the FBI. Last Thursday, they were arrested – and not long thereafter, it came to light that they were both active and respected members of the Masjid Al-Hamdulillah in Brooklyn.

The mosque’s imam, Charles Aziz Bilal, had nothing but praise for Velentzas and her family: “They have been an upright family,” he said. “Very honest, very sincere, very dedicated family. They’re family-oriented. They have children in the community, born in the mosque. Good religious people.” He confirmed that both Velentzas and Siddiqui were members of the mosque in good standing.

Bilal dismissed, however, the idea that either one could have learned to be “bad bitches” who were “citizens of the Islamic State” at good old Masjid Al-Hamdulillah. “That’s not what we promote here,” he assured Newsday, and that was that. He characterized Velentzas as “A mother who took care of her daughter, normal. Very friendly, nothing political, nothing extremist.” As for jihad terror activity, he said that if Velentzas and Siddiqui had really been involved in it, “they were doing it on the down low.”

What else did you expect him to say? “Oh, yes, we put them up to it, kaffir”? “Yes, we all knew about what they were doing, and we all approved”?

It is no surprise at all that Imam Charles Aziz Bilal of Masjid Al-Hamdulillah would say these things. What is unfortunate is that the mainstream media takes these statements at face value, with no attempt to determine whether or not he is telling the truth.

This is despite the fact that four separate studies conducted since 1998 have all found that 80% of U.S. mosques were teaching jihad, Islamic supremacism, and hatred and contempt for Jews and Christians.

There are no countervailing studies that challenge these results. In 1998, Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, a Sufi leader, visited 114 mosques in the United States. Then he gave testimony before a State Department Open Forum in January 1999, and asserted that 80% of American mosques taught the “extremist ideology.”

Then there was the Center for Religious Freedom’s 2005 study, and the Mapping Sharia Project’s 2008 study. Each independently showed that upwards of 80% of mosques in America were preaching hatred of Jews and Christians and the necessity ultimately to impose Islamic rule.

And in the summer of 2011 came another study showing that only 19% of mosques in U.S. don’t teach jihad violence and/or Islamic supremacism.

Specifically:

A random survey of 100 representative mosques in the U.S. was conducted to measure the correlation between Sharia adherence and dogma calling for violence against non-believers. Of the 100 mosques surveyed, 51% had texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% had texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% had no violent texts at all. Mosques that presented as Sharia adherent were more likely to feature violence-positive texts on site than were their non-Sharia-adherent counterparts. In 84.5% of the mosques, the imam recommended studying violence-positive texts. The leadership at Sharia-adherent mosques was more likely to recommend that a worshiper study violence-positive texts than leadership at non-Sharia-adherent mosques. Fifty-eight percent of the mosques invited guest imams known to promote violent jihad. The leadership of mosques that featured violence-positive literature was more likely to invite guest imams who were known to promote violent jihad than was the leadership of mosques that did not feature violence-positive literature on mosque premises.

That means that around 1,700 mosques in the U.S. could be preaching hatred of infidels and justifying violence against them….

Read the rest here.

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Filed Under: Featured, Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh), Jihad in the U.S., Robert Spencer Tagged With: Asia Siddiqui, Charles Aziz Bilal, Noelle Velentzas


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  1. Matthieu Baudin says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 12:02 am

    We really have been dhimmis for a long time. We’ve assumed goodness at every opportunity and overlooked malevolence when it was staring us in the face.

    • Jay Airahs says

      Apr 7, 2015 at 8:53 am

      The new media trains dhimmis not to return the favor and stare back into the face of the malevolence that is staring us in the face.

      • Shane says

        Apr 7, 2015 at 4:32 pm

        Most of the clueless liberals in the MSM assume, like Obama, that Islam is a religion of peace, and that only a few Muslims who misunderstand Islam resort to violence. Some are so clueless that they will deny that jihad means holy war. Liberals are dhimmis save a few like Bill Maher and Bob Beckel.

  2. Huck Folder says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 12:27 am

    This could be two posts. The facts about the Pareto Curve following mosques/barracks warrants its own thread, if not already done. Typically 20% of the population commit 80% of crime and the other 80% do the remaining 20%, and many more divisions like that.

    This sweet ‘imam’ is a real islamic pillar. I think Robert has shown his scary douchebag past elsewhere:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/often-busted-imam-charles-aziz-bilal-snared-prostitution-sting-article-1.947003

    “A Queens imam [there’s a joke in there, somewhere] was busted for patronizing a prostitute, who turned out to be an undercover cop, [male or female?] authorities said.

    Imam Charles Aziz Bilal was snared in a prostitution sting about 11 p.m. Tuesday, agreeing to pay $25 for sex [cheapskate] at a Howard Johnson Inn in South Jamaica.

    His arrest was part of an ongoing NYPD initiative, dubbed Operation Losing Proposition, which targets johns.”

    “Bilal, whose job at Rikers keeps him on the lawful side of the bars, is no stranger to getting locked up. He’s been ARRESTED 18 TIMES [perfect imam credentials] since 1970, sources said. His rap sheet includes collars for robbery, grand larceny, criminal possession of stolen property and bribery of a public official.*

    In July 2010, a city marshal found a 9-mm. semi-automatic pistol in Bilal’s 2004 Mercedes Benz after it was towed to a Queens impound lot. The incident was investigated, but no arrests were made.” [Why not? Is that* why?]

  3. mortimer says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 12:33 am

    15% of Muslims claim to support violent jihadist organizations. One Muslim out of six is then a jihad supporter. Out of those hundreds of thousands, several hundreds are ready to conduct jihad and are therefore very dangerous. Hundreds of jihadists in Western countries take a lot of police resources. The police are getting more and more stretched as the jihadists keep trying. Eventually, some will succeed in destroying Western targets which will encourage more jihadists.

    What creates these jihadists? Study groups. The study groups are lead and taught by mullahs such as the late Anwar Awlaki and the living Charles Aziz Bilal of Masjid Al-Hamdulillah. They pretend they don’t teach jihad and pretend to denounce their pupils when they get caught. The deception continues.

    Jihad is deceit.

  4. Joseph says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 12:41 am

    What makes converts??

    It must be the fluoride in the drinking water.
    The nitrogen in the air?
    Calories in the food??

    Gosh….we will never know

    Maybe because it appeals to the deep seated evil in some people

    • Jay Airahs says

      Apr 7, 2015 at 9:02 am

      Some of these woman are approval gluttons. They chase after Muslims to how ‘tolerant’ they are. Soon, they want to be as Muslim as possible. In their minds, this means converting to Islam and blowing up anything that moves in order to please their bombardier-in-chief leader, Allah.

    • terry says

      Apr 8, 2015 at 1:18 am

      Joseph, in human psychology and Neurolinguistic Programming there is a very well studied, established and proven fact. That fact in essence states that whenever any human being reaches a certain threshold in his/her conviction or certainty about any held faith, he/she doesn’t anymore question that deeply held faith.

      So here how it works regarding the process of conversion to Islam. First the Daawa or proselytizing is a duty on all Muslims and one of the five pillars of Islam, that’s why, going by numbers, Muslims are most certainly the largest group on the planet active in proselytizing.

      When any non Muslim is first approached and up till the early stages of his/her conversion, afterwards, only nice sounding positive things which appeal to western culture, are spoken to him/her e.g. that Islam is a religion of peace, love, mercy…etc. In addition to that. personalizing that message for Daawa to fit his/her very specific circumstances to make it more appealing and convincing.

      For example, they approach a young African American man frustrated with certain acts of racism he faced, that really were outrageous, affected that person’s life to the worse or ruined a large part of it. Pick especially for him/her certain bits from here and there in the Quran, Hadiths and Sunnah which show him that it’s a religion of equality, regardless of race or anything else, fraternity and stuff like that. These things are presented to him with a large dose of emotional intensity

      Gradually the seduction process begin to pick up speed. He/she is invited to the mosque and to their houses, shown a lot of generosity and other appealing things that work on the subconscious. At one point he/she starts to be called a brother/sister, for a sense of belonging to a large community.

      All this builds up to the big moment when he/she is invited to declare his conversion publicly, in front of others, by saying the “Shehadah”, symbol of his dedication to Islam and declaration of alliance to the “Umma”, the planet wide family of Muslims.

      At one point in these later stages, he becomes more exposed to the other heavy stuff, like the obligation to fight non Muslims, the infidels, Jihad and taking violent actions to defend any perceived aggression on any other Muslims, anywhere in the world. Gradually more exposure to worse things takes place

      Meanwhile, by this point his conviction and certainty about the new found faith are such that almost nothing is questioned anymore!

      Many knowledgeable people about the true nature of Islam would certainly find it laughable, if someone thinks that Muslims start inviting others to Islam by immediately inviting them to blow themselves up to kill as many infidels as they can!

      • Joseph says

        Apr 8, 2015 at 1:50 am

        You and I know EXACTLY what Islam is about. That is why we have to spread the word about sites like this and many others. If people REALLY know what is going on then there eyes may, I say MAY be opened and not fall for this garbage. However, there are many people out there that truly know what is going on and STILL convert. I can say that this is true because before I came to these sites I pieced together what Islam is. I am at these sites now because I was sick and tired of the “whitewash” I was hearing in the media.
        Basically it comes down to “buyer beware” Look at what you are purchasing. I most certainly am NOT the sharpest tool in the shed yet I wasn’t fooled by them so why should others be?

        The subterfuge you described is nothing new to any cult, nor is it new to the world. Education on what Islam IS really is the key to stop this conversion mess.
        Looks like shit, smells like shit….don’t step in it to prove it is shit.

  5. Peggy says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 1:12 am

    It would scare the Hell out of me if my kids converted because I know that I wouldn’t be safe any longer. They are prepared to kill anyone (including family) for Islam.
    Now all these families whose kids have converted must know how radical this cult is so how come none of family members have come forward to dob their son/daughter in?

    • Joseph says

      Apr 7, 2015 at 10:18 am

      @ Peggy
      I would be more worried about their eternal soul. Instead of heaven, they will receive eternal damnation for they have rejected “THE ONE and ONLY” path to salvation. JESUS CHRIST.
      Don’t feel bad. Your initial reaction is a “knee jerk” response. All people do this and after a few minutes the gravity of the situation sets in.
      I am willing to bet a hot coffee in my lap that you came to this conclusion after you posted, you just didn’t feel like going back to post again.
      Aren’t kids great? When I was 40, I still was a “kid” to my dad. I guess that’s called LOVE, it never stops.

      • kaffir geoff says

        Apr 7, 2015 at 1:53 pm

        are you implying that all Sikhs, bhuddists, hindus are destined to eternal damnation?

        • Joseph says

          Apr 7, 2015 at 10:37 pm

          So then you are implying that Muslims go to heaven

  6. Dee says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 2:15 am

    I don’t think sane people convert. There’s some pathology there already, like malignant narcissism, that already parallels the ideology of Islam.

    • Jay Airahs says

      Apr 7, 2015 at 9:06 am

      The pathology of leftism might be part of the issue.
      Unattractive women might be enticed by men without green cards urgently flattering them with non-stop attention.

  7. TomTB says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 4:50 am

    I worked at the World Trade Center for the Port Authority of NY&NJ, and no one asked me whether I had a bunch of religions, agnostic, or none.
    There are people that somehow believe they will be rewarded for murder, and are lawless.

  8. Jay Airahs says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 9:08 am

    It never fails.
    Wherever in the world there is Islam, we also find ‘radical’ Islam.
    Imagine that.

  9. Gary says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 9:21 am

    Why Muslims live with such hatred in their hearts……

    1John4:16-21

    “We know how much God loves us because we have felt his love and because we believe him when he tells us that he loves us dearly. God is love, and anyone who lives in love is living with God and God is living in him.  And as we live with Christ, our love grows more perfect and complete; so we will not “be ashamed and embarrassed at the day of judgment, but can face him with confidence and joy because he loves us and we love him too.
    We need have no fear of someone who loves us perfectly; his perfect love for us eliminates all dread of what he might do to us. If we are afraid, it is for fear of what he might do to us and shows that we are not fully convinced that he really loves us. So you see, our love for him comes as a result of his loving us first. “If anyone says “I love God,” but keeps on hating his brother, he is a liar; for if he doesn’t love his brother who is right there in front of him, how can he love God whom he has never seen? And God himself has said that one must love not only God but his brother too.”

    ……They don’t know God.

  10. Sam says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 10:57 am

    I wonder what it will take for America to wake up. What else do we need? We have 9/11,Fort Hood, Boston Marathon, behading of Americans and zillions of Muslim attacks on innocent people infidel or not all over the world. Are we so stupid or we are scared of this religion of peace or of shit.

  11. Jay Airahs says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 11:21 am

    “Becoming a Muslim is the best decision you will ever make”

    Do you remember those words, Muslima?
    How is that working out?

    • Joseph says

      Apr 7, 2015 at 11:35 am

      @ Jay Airahs
      “How is that working out?”

      OOOOHHHH man this one just begs for me to play the role as the Muslima(twisted one).
      You are much better at it, so I beg that you reach into your bag and pull out a few good ones.
      Topics?
      FGM
      Goats
      (sex) Men NOT washing
      Water
      Food

  12. noellsq says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    It is time that the non muslims think about why we are letting the Muslims ruin our lives. It is time to fight back.This is despite the fact that four separate studies conducted since 1998 have all found that 80% of U.S. mosques were teaching jihad, Islamic supremacism, and hatred and contempt for Jews and Christians. People get fired for criticizing the Muslims even thou what they say is true. The POTUS says it is a peaceful religion he lies pick up the Quran. I do not see Christians cutting heads off but it would be nice to see them protect themselves. Face reality look at Europe is this what you want. We should stop talking react. If a mosque preaches hatred forcibly close it.

  13. gravenimage says

    Apr 7, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    Robert Spencer, PJM: ‘Some Real Bad Bitches’ Or Loyal Citizens of the Islamic State?
    …………………………..

    Islam takes the worst of Western culture, but even then much outdoes it.

    “Some Real Bad Bitches” sounds like the “Bad Girl’s Club” or something equally stupid and nihilistic, but even the girls of bad reality TV aren’t involved in anything worse than trash talking and hair-pulling fights. Not so these wanna-be mass murdering Muslimah Jihadists.

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