Capitulation to violent intimidation is the order of the day. Kowtowing to thuggery is today’s act of “respect” for the “disadvantaged” and “marginalized.” Yet the more we kowtow to thuggery, the more a thugocracy is enabled.
“Top Charlie Hebdo cartoonist Luz says will no longer draw Mohammed,” AFP, April 29, 2015 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
Paris (AFP) – Cartoonist Luz, who drew Charlie Hebdo’s front cover picture of Mohammed following the massacre of the satirical weekly’s editorial team by jihadists in January, has told a French magazine he will no longer draw the prophet.
“I will no longer draw the figure of Mohammed. It no longer interests me,” he told Les Inrockuptibles magazine in an interview published on Wednesday.
“I’m not going to spend my life drawing (cartoons of Mohammed).”
Luz’s cover image in January portrayed Mohammed with a sign saying “Je Suis Charlie” under the words “All is forgiven”.
The issue came out a week after the attack by jihadists on the magazine’s office left 12 dead. It had a print run of eight million — a record for the French press.
“The terrorists did not win,” Luz told Les Inrockuptibles….
Debatable.
David says
Some freedoms are not in the best interests of humanity. The freedom to make racist comments has been all but banned internationally even though the west believes in freedom of speech. Freedom of paedophilia is a sexual freedom not granted but seen as an evil. There are many freedoms which can be harmful and are curtailed because of the possibility of widespread conflict and war as well as chaos and anarchy.
People are free to draw pictures of Muhammad. There’s no law against it but one can call a coloured person a nigger also and cause a riot. We are free to do what we like but what’s the point in deliberately antagonising people? Do we really want racist riots or wars with people over other faiths just because we want to be antagonistic?
Things that hurt westerners don’t hurt easterners and vice versa but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be sensitive to each other’s feelings and have a common courtesy and respect for each other.
If alienating people and antagonising people from different faiths is your thing then go right ahead no-one’s stopping you but then don’t complain later when it all blows up in your face so to speak.
The urgent need today is to create peace and goodwill between the different races, cultures, religions, nations and classes. we cannot allow our freedoms to be intimidated but also should not antagonise other races or religions but seek to create peace and unity where possible.
Don McKellar says
David either:
A) KNOWS ZERO about the Islamic texts, the entire history of Islamic conquest, and the clearly stated goals of Islamic supremacists all over the world, based entirely on the Islamic texts.
B) Is a conman Islamic supremacist in drag.
Which one is it, David? Are you a clueless idiot and coward who doesn’t mind getting shit on if it “promotes unity” who’s got one of those “coexist” bumper sticker on your car, or are you really an undercover moslem on “stealth jihad”? It’s one of the other.
terry says
It’s “B”. He made comments on this site, before. He’s one of those Muslims who always seem to have an answer, no matter how stupid or sh*t it’s.
Now to David, I simply say this to you: be a man face the reality of Islam, If really you’re looking for the truth and nothing but the truth, go with open mind and heart, only for the truth, study the Quran, Hadiths, Sunnah, Islamic history, how it was spread in its early days and its contemporary history, what kind of fruits it’s producing throughout the Islamic world.
Instead of always blaming the west, this or that, compare things, between different countries and religions, ask yourself simple questions such as why one finds the same or almost the same kind of results consistently, without fail in all Muslim countries, such as Algeria, Tunisia, Lybia, Egypt, Sudan, Syria, Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Chechnya, Somalia, Nigeria, Mali or any other country where Muslims reached sufficient critical numbers?
Another question-why almost always, converts from Christianity or any other denomination to Islam become Jihadists and commit or plan to commit violent acts, as soon they study the religion very well and become devout Muslims? How many times that happened in just the last five years? On the other hand in the last one hundred years, how many Muslims who converted to Christianity became Jihadists or started after their conversion to commit violent acts in the name of Christianity, Jesus or quoting the bible when committing those acts?
It will be difficult and may even be painful to do that, to examine your religion and its three sources, cited above, neutrally and without any prejudice, as most probably you were hard conditioned its belief system since a young age, you are strongly emotionally attached to it, your identity is fused with its identity or all of the precedent combined.
Meanwhile it’s worth the effort, as there is no better reward in the world than finding the truth about something fundamental which literally means the difference between life and death!
TruthWFree says
Good post. Speaking the TRUTH about Islam is like speaking the TRUTH about any evil that is likely to result in the deaths of millions. Not only through the killing and violence exhorted by the allah god of the Quran, but one has to ask if an Islamic society could exist without the West. With Islam in charge as is their goal, I suspect food and other necessities would dwindle resulting in the deaths of millions. Everything they use against us was developed by the West, bombs and weapons and including their oil. Even in the days of the Ottoman Empire, I believe they existed off the labor of the conquered peoples and as many converted to Islam to avoid heavy taxes, the Muslim Ottoman Empire decayed. Islam is a cancer on humanity.
PRODOS says
David writes: “If alienating people and antagonising people from different faiths is your thing then go right ahead no-one’s stopping you but then don’t complain later when it all blows up in your face so to speak.”
As it happens, the views you express in your comment truly offend and antagonise my deepest held beliefs. Will you blame me if I punch your lights out?
I hope not.
Islam_Macht_Frei says
In order for it to “blow up in your face” you would pretty much have to focus your comments on Islam. Going after Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc won’t get you much in the way of things “blowing up.”
Westman says
David,
I was you once, with those false platitudes before I discovered there was an ideology that promotes supremism and violence. Look up Winston Churchill’s description of Islamic fruits; it’s just as accurate today. Islamic doctrine calls for Sunni political and military jihad now, and the Shia version of jihad after the (Shia) Mahdi returns. Sunnis are 85% of Islam.
I won’t be joining your, “good men doing nothing club”, because the rationale is irrational; leaving your great grandchildren to curse you for taking away their freedom because of your delusion. Islam even has a name for you, “Dhimmi”. Look it up then look in the mirror and ask yourself, “is this an ideology that will leave me and my descendents alone?” Look at what is happening in Europe and read the theology for your answer.
Then make the right decision for your posterity.
Buraq says
@ David
You give yourself away as an apologist for Islam by conflating the freedom to criticise an ideology with racism. It’s not racist to criticise the prophet of Islam. You also make the sweeping statement that there are freedoms that are not allowed, like the freedom to practice paedophilia. Well, you could add dozens more faux examples; like the freedom to kill people is not allowed — well, unless you’re murdering Charlie Hebdo cartoonists, according to Shariah, which does allow Muslims to murder without punishment.
You’re a clown, a baggy-trousered, red nosed, wire wigged clown!
Januk36 says
@Buraq
I can’t stand hearing “the prophet” of islam. At most he can be considered a “messenger” by muslims but certainly not “prophet”.
PRODOS says
Replying to Dr Divinity, who writes of the Old Testament God, that He: “…. can do anything He wants to whom He wants, when He wants and needs no justification. for doing it.”
That’s not quite how I understand the Old Testament God — and perhaps we in fact agree on this … As I understand Him, what makes Him distinctive is that He does *not* behave whimsically or unpredictably.
I appreciate that you’re merely saying He *can* do anything — that he He has the *capacity *to do anything — and you’re not saying He is random or even that He is completely unknowable.
My understanding is that the God of the Hebrew Bible *does* justify His actions. And there are even occasions when people argue with Him and convince Him by the justice and truth of their argument to change His position.
The Allah of Islam is a completely different kettle of fish. Allah can punish the just and reward the unjust. Not even Mohammed knows if he is going to Heaven.
Very different from either the Old or the New Testament God.
I would value your thoughts on this. Thanks.
Raja says
Prodos,
Your reply and explanation is really appreciated..God bless
Raja says
The term prophet is one of the biggest crime against humanity! A true prophet said what God required him to say and God had him say what was foreseen. Mo was neither. The world prefixes prophet to the Islamic founder Mohammad and his followers believe that world accepts him to be a prophet. When a proselyte (muslim) approaches you for the first time he presumes you accept Mo to be a prophet because most of the world does.THIS IS ALSO THE REASON HE BELIEVES THE WORLD WILL CONVERT TO ISLAM. Therefore the Islamic PROPAGANDA with vicious cycle of devil::kill, get media attention, get into hall of fame, obtain 72 virgins in paradise, ” hasten the process of world converting to Islam” and so on.
Sadly in this fallen and chaotic world there is no distinction between true prophet and false prophet. Is it ever possible to drop the prefix prophet to Mo? The world will be a better place!!!!
Champ says
The urgent need today is to create peace and goodwill between the different races, cultures, religions, nations and classes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No, this is not the “urgent need today”, and your unfortunate attitude and comment is profoundly ignorant, not to mention *dangerous*.
Champ says
…the “urgent need” is to defeat islam and stat!!! They are at war with us, or haven’t you been paying attention.
duh_swami says
David sez….what’s the point in deliberately antagonising people? Do we really want racist riots or wars with people over other faiths just because we want to be antagonistic?
The language of surrender…Lay down, roll over, belly up and play dead…That’s for the coward, not the warrior…
Scott M says
They will kill you ..anyway.
Mo says
@ David
“Some freedoms are not in the best interests of humanity.”
Is that right? What freedoms are those? And why?
“The freedom to make racist comments has been all but banned internationally even though the west believes in freedom of speech.”
Nonsense. People say all sorts of things all the time.
“Freedom of paedophilia is a sexual freedom not granted but seen as an evil.”
Because it IS evil. (Someone forgot to tell the “prophet” Mohammad this!)
“There are many freedoms which can be harmful and are curtailed because of the possibility of widespread conflict and war as well as chaos and anarchy.”
You’ve named none here, nor explained how they lead to “the possibility of widespread conflict and war as well as chaos and anarchy.”
“People are free to draw pictures of Muhammad. ”
And? Do you want to stop them? What’s your point here? I’m not seeing one.
“There’s no law against it but one can call a coloured person a nigger also and cause a riot.”
Calling someone a name “causes” a riot? Baloney. People riot because they CHOOSE to riot. Conservatives, Christians, those in the counter-terrorism movement *like Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller and all the others) are called names every single day.
Show me what riots they were forced into because of this name calling.
” We are free to do what we like but what’s the point in deliberately antagonising people?”
You’re antagonizing me right now. According to your view, you should stop it. Right?
“Do we really want racist riots or wars with people over other faiths just because we want to be antagonistic?”
You’re antagonizing me right now. But I’m not rioting or calling for a riot. Nor would I support anyone who would riot on this basis.
I’m done reading your nonsense.
Answer the things I’ve asked. Do not ignore me. People like you love to come here, spew nonsense, and then ignore people when they call you on it.
Answer me.
vickie says
Well Mo the freedom allowing Muslims to follow in the example of their sex crazed messenger in marrying little girls!!
Mo says
@Vickie
“Well Mo the freedom allowing Muslims to follow in the example of their sex crazed messenger in marrying little girls!!”
True!
Raja says
@ David,
On reading your comment I just couldn’t recall any comment off the mark as yours. You seem to have no character with pathetically inadequate knowledge of Islam and you may not STAND UP TO ANYTHING.Perhaps you have nothing to stand up for!!!!! Are you by any chance Dawood?
Islam, as most on this site understand is a so called religion that is an ugly bully “religion”. When the Charlie Hebdo cartoons derided all and sundry all except Islamists were tolerant as only Islam is a bully masquerading as a religion.
If you want to follow Jesus you have all the resources on the net to prove that He really was from God. On the other hand you have Islam the anti Christ “religion” that has been on the killing spree from the day one.
Perhaps you don’t understand Christ and anti-Christ so it doesn’t count if you are butchered as Kafir and infidel… You will probably make a good cursed politician!!!!
mach37 says
“Dawood”? You probably didn’t mean “Dagwood” – so how about saying in English what you mean.
BC says
The urgent need today is to create peace and goodwill between the different races, cultures, religions, nations and classes
Indeed it is but where do you see Islam and Islamists trying to do this. The Islamists are always talking as though Muslims are victims of Western aggression and going back as far as the aggressive expansion
of Islam into other lands. They still see this conquest as being legitimate and in need of re establishment. They want to go further and expand the rule of Islam, even in countries where Muslims have been allowed to migrate, and note the word ‘allowed’. So how is that creating peace and understanding? The Islmists’ idea of understanding means subjection to Islam and Allah
Laurent says
The words come truth only if proven to action. Luz did you take the big head, but mostly do really think you are ALWAYS “FREE” to think and to do what you wish and what you want : If you forbid yourself to make caricatures of muhammad but not others?( Jesus with codoms on the head,Jews….) Self-censorship: “The most egregious biases in information
processing are the result of the selection of personnel who thinks what to think, having internalized a common sense of the profession and is being adapted to the constraints owners, organizational, market and political power. Censorship here are primarily self-censorship of journalists and presenters subject to their sources and media organizational constraints, and also their colleagues higher in the hierarchy, selected to impose constraints.I think the enemy is self-censorship.Perhaps in a free society the biggest danger is that you’re so afraid that you rather prefer to censor yourself ? I’M NO MORE CHARLIE BECAUSE YOU ARE CONFORMIST LIKE MOST . ISLAMISTS WON
profitsbeard says
^~@}:~[>
(No pen needed.)
Papa Whiskey says
Excellent! It won’t win the prize in Texas Sunday but it should at least get an honorable mention.
As for “David,” both his spelling and his attitude reveal him to be a dhimmi Brit. Drool, Britannia!
PRODOS says
Brilliant! 🙂
voegelinian says
The “Moticon”.
ECAW says
^~@}:~[>
Can someone explain please.
JeffS says
Turn it sideways and you’ll see Muhammed with a bomb in his turban.
ECAW says
Thanks.
mach37 says
How do you know that is what Muhammed looks like? It doesn’t look like any picture of him that I have seen before. I refuse to terrorize you just because you THINK you are drawing The Propet.
PRODOS says
Here’s what the “MOTICON” (to use voegelinian’s term) is based on:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_md61S_gChL0/SdfqTqtJo-I/AAAAAAAAAcw/qdUj_ttQgXc/s400/turbanbomb1.gif
It’s one of the 12 Jyllands-Posten “Danish cartoons”.
Wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
Don McKellar says
Coward. Bow to your moslem masters. Only a coward would make such a declaration. He doesn’t have to draw mohammad every day, nor every issue. Maybe it would come up only once or twice more — who knows? But the last thing that a man of integrity and heart does is make such a declaration after what has happened.
If your superiors who died battling evil could strike back from the grave at you, they would.
Maybe he just wants to be buddies with Garry “the hypocrite” Trudeau?
Luz — doing his part to keep the tradition of French surrender monkeys alive in the 21st Century.
Papa Whiskey says
As far as I’m concerned, Luz has taken the risks and lost his friends, and if he wants to stand down he can do so with honor. There are plenty of us who stand ready to take up the cudgel. To wit, me. As witness:
http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/AFDIMotoons/media/motoon.paul.green%201_zpsx6pjooow.jpg.html?sort=6&o=35
and
http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/AFDIMotoons/media/mo%20entry_zpsnvmpil8t.jpg.html?sort=6&o=85
PRODOS says
Enjoyed browsing through your illustrations.
Don McKellar says
It’s the open declaration that he is “standing down” which undoes any things he has done before — as he has handed the prize to those who murder to shut people up. If he didn’t say anything, and didn’t feel like drawing the criminal “prophet” again, then A-okay. His business. But he didn’t do that. He made a cowardly public declaration for his new moslem masters that he’ll be careful not to offend them any more. He deserves nothing but ridicule.
PRODOS says
Don McKellar writes: “He made a cowardly public declaration for his new moslem masters that he’ll be careful not to offend them any more.”
I’d like to read a full and accurate translation (from French) of what Luz said in the interview on which this AFP report is based.
I don’t think there is sufficient evidence to accuse Luz of cowardice or even of surrender.
His track record (the little that I know of it) makes me very reluctant to accuse him of cowardice or surrender.
His statement that he’s “bored” with drawing Mo-toons could mean a variety of things.
It could even mean: Look, I’ve done all I can do for now. I’ve paid the price for my defiance. I’m tired and spent. If you want more Mo-toons, go draw them yourself. What more do you armchair rebels want of me?
Just saying.
PRODOS says
Papa Whiskey writes: “if he wants to stand down he can do so with honor.”
A fair point.
Question: What would *you* do in his position?
Papa Whiskey says
Hard to say, because I’m not in his position. I haven’t seen a dozen of my colleagues slaughtered and then have to try to carry on in their absence.
Being an armed American rather than an unarmed European, though, I guess I’d try to bear in mind the old proverb to the effect that “Before you go seeking vengeance, dig two graves.” This might be a dissuasion from the temptations offered by a target-rich environment.
PRODOS says
Thanks Papa Whiskey. Good reply.
“Being an armed American rather than an unarmed European ….”
And I would add, that Americans are also “armed” with a set of principles AND a history AND a sense of personal responsibility that is not as common in Europe, unfortunately.
Best Wishes,
PRODOS
Melbourne, Australia
Papa Whiskey says
And best wishes to you, mate. Got to make it down to the antipodes one day.
PRODOS says
Papa Whiskey writes: “And best wishes to you, mate. Got to make it down to the antipodes one day.”
If you do, come and visit us in Melbourne. I can be contacted via http://fismotron.education/contact/
🙂
voegelinian says
“As far as I’m concerned, Luz has taken the risks and lost his friends, and if he wants to stand down he can do so with honor. ”
Well, it depends on how he stands down. I would even marginally respect an artist who at least admits he’s doing it because he’s scared (e.g., Gillette Penn, Michael Palin, Terry Jones, all of whom have been featured in JW articles in former years). But this guy Luz telegraphs nothing of value in his decision and seems to trivialize it.
voegelinian says
Then we have had Western artists who fall (or try to wiggle their way into) somewhere in between, as with Matt and Trey of South Park (see the comments section also, where Kepha and I tried to argue that Matt and Trey’s wildly asymmetrical attacks on Christianity make their gingerly attempts to poke fun at Mohammed pitiful:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/death-threats-for-south-park-creators-after-muhammad-depicted-on-show-disguised-in-a-bear-suit
David says
These are very special days for Baha’is known as the Days of Ridvan (Paradise) when Baha’u’llah announced He was the Promised One awaited by all the peoples of the world on April 21st 1863. For 12 Days He made His Mission of uniting the world known to all mankind.
Here is a gift from the Pen of Baha’u’llah to all my friends here…..
Be generous in prosperity, and thankful in adversity. Be worthy of the trust of thy neighbor, and look upon him with a bright and friendly face. Be a treasure to the poor, an admonisher to the rich, an answerer of the cry of the needy, a preserver of the sanctity of thy pledge. Be fair in thy judgment, and guarded in thy speech. Be unjust to no man, and show all meekness to all men. Be as a lamp unto them that walk in darkness, a joy to the sorrowful, a sea for the thirsty, a haven for the distressed, an upholder and defender of the victim of oppression. Let integrity and uprightness distinguish all thine acts. Be a home for the stranger, a balm to the suffering, a tower of strength for the fugitive. Be eyes to the blind, and a guiding light unto the feet of the erring. Be an ornament to the countenance of truth, a crown to the brow of fidelity, a pillar of the temple of righteousness, a breath of life to the body of mankind, an ensign of the hosts of justice, a luminary above the horizon of virtue, a dew to the soil of the human heart, an ark on the ocean of knowledge, a sun in the heaven of bounty, a gem on the diadem of wisdom, a shining light in the firmament of thy generation, a fruit upon the tree of humility.
(Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, CLXXX)
PRODOS says
David — who excuses those who commit violence because they feel antagonised — continues to antagonise me.
The “Pen of Baha’u’llah” is an instrument of vile blasphemy!!
I declare a Jihad on you, David!
Don McKellar says
Oh, so “David” has chosen to pose as a Baha’i.
How does it make you feel to reflect on what the moslems have done to the Baha’i in Iran? Does it make you all warm and fuzzy inside?
It probably does.
PRODOS says
Don McKellar wrote: “How does it make you feel to reflect on what the moslems have done to the Baha’i in Iran?”
Maybe David thinks the Bahai had it coming to them?
Westman says
The Sunnis will be coming for you and the Baha’i, Sunni ‘nuf.
Joseph says
@ David
John 14:6King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
RIGHT BACK AT YOU.
juancolina says
David ?????
You have NO friends here.
That is your fault NOT ours.
And that is NO surprise at all.
Most people in the world know you for what you are SCUM.
citycat says
“It no longer interests me”
Drawing pictures of Mo?
The Islamic defilement of natural freedom?
The credibility given to Islams’ smokescreen of lies?
The treacherous advance of Islam?
The fear of Islam that feeds the beast that struts its stuff to gain grounds?
The donning of the denial hats that are contributing to the horror?
He has freedom of choice of interests, at the moment that is.
Well at least he is someone who has tried.
If i wasn’t an Atheist i’d say “god bless him”
ECAW says
If he had said “I am afraid for my life and my family” we would all understand and applaud his honesty but pretending that he has just lost interest in the subject- that won’t wash.
Billy Corr says
David hasn’t grasped something which is really quite straightforward:
Total freedom of speech and good manners are simply not compatible.
Mormonism is a loopy religion founded by a charlatan – but it isn’t good
manners to go round informing Mormons of the fact.
Islam is a disgusting and appalling religion – but it isn’t good manners to go
round informing Muslims of the fact.
The harsh reality is one of the two activities is almost certainly risk-free, while
the other might well prove fatal.
duh_swami says
Total freedom of speech and good manners are simply not compatible.
There is no absolute free speech to begin with…Because of that, the statement makes no sense…
PRODOS says
duh_swami writes: “There is no absolute free speech to begin with …”
I would distinguish current laws from fundamental rights.
Free speech is a fundamental right.
However, there are many laws which breach this right.
Those laws are unjust and harmful and should be changed and be brought into line with this fundamental right.
The idea of free speech as a fundamental right simply means that it is wrong for me to use violence against you when you are expressing your opinion.
For instance, if you were to say “Allah is a camel’s backside!” that would, in my view be stupid. But by virtue of your right to free speech, I’m not allowed to hit you or threaten to hit you (or destroy your property) for saying such a silly thing.
As Billy Corr says: “… freedom of speech and good manners are simply not compatible.”
The term “absolute” is not, in my view, that useful when discussing rights since it conflates existing laws and rights.
mach37 says
I saw a number of the cartoons that Muslims claimed were depictions of Muhammad, but the captions did not identify the caricature as Muhammad, and to me they looked like a very generic cartoon of a contemporary middle-eastern male, or camel-jockey, if you will. Photography did not exist in the 7th century, and no sculpture has been identified as an authentic likeness of Muhammad ibn Abdullah ibn abd al-Muttalib, so how does anyone know that any of Hebdo’s cartoons actually depicted Muhammad?
boocat says
Submission accomplished!
sidney penny says
He could have kept quiet and not draw anymore cartoons of Mohammed.
Why the announcement?
What is the benefit to him or us?
Does the public need to know?
john spielman says
this is the END of Charlie Hebdo
duh_swami says
All images of Mahound are evil…If you keep drawing pictures of evil, at some point the evil will take on a life of it’s own, jump off the canvas and possess the artist. I can’t judge his motives, but it is probably better for him to lay off.
shabeer_hassan says
MAKING MOVIE/CARTOON AGAINST RELIGIOUS RESPECTED PERSON IS MADNESS/COWARDNESS/PROVOCATION FOR VIOLENCE/ RACISM ………..
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duh_swami says
So Shabeer, if the attack was fake, and no one was killed, where are those 12 people now? Where are they hiding?
shabeer_hassan says
UTTER FOOL ASK TO ROBERT SPENCER /CNN/FOX/WORLD MEDIA & FRENCH GOVT WHERE WAS THEIR DEAD BODIES ,THEY CLAIMED THE DEATH OF CARTOONIST ,NOT ME OR MUSLIMS……..U HAVE TO PROVE IT,BRING THEIR DEAD BODIES,THEIR GRAVES,BRING THEIR DEATH CEREMONY VIDEOS ,WHERE IS IT?
COURAGEOUS PPL ASK TO MEDIA WHERE IS IT?
voegelinian says
The Nazi/Islamic conspiracy theory mentality is fascinating, because they indulge in an odd paradox. Robert Spencer has alluded to this before. The paradox began, perhaps, with the Holocaust deniers, and its nonsense may be expressed this way: “The Holocaust never happened, but I’m glad the Holocaust happened.” (It’s important to note that by “Holocaust” we mean only one thing.)
Just fill in the blank for any other event being conspiracy-theorized (911, etc.).
voegelinian says
The paradox I allude to above may be resolved by the indulger simply lying about the “never happened” part; a distinct possibility, given the inclination toward disinformation on the part of Nazis and Muslims.
duh_swami says
Shabeer…What is that baby jibber jabber?
JOHN SPIELMAN says
Dear Shabeer; you are delusional, typical of those who deny the truth. if you could see and understand the absolute evil of islam and its founder muhammed; ( who was a demon possessed pedophile pervert mass murderer thief liar and misogynist), you would have a chance at eternal life
shabeer_hassan says
#absolute evil of islam…………
I DON’T UNDERSTAND R LIVING EARTH OR SOME OTHER PLANET ,BEC’S IN FRONT OF U & ME DAILY A MASS PEOPLE CONVERTED TO ISLAM ,THEY SAY ” THAT THE ONLY WAY THEY GETTING COMPLETE LEVEL OF SALVATION ” …..TODAY MOST OF THE WESTERN GOVT & PPL AGREED THE FACT ,WHAT THE LOGIC U’R CLAIM ? R U MADD OR PSYCHS ?………..
#demon possessed pedophile ……
ISLAM & MARRIAGE
[017:034] Come not nigh to the orphan’s property except to improve it, until he attains the ”age of full strength”; and fulfill (every) ”engagement”, for (every) engagement will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning).[MARRIAGE IS AN ENGAGEMENT]
024:059] But when the children among you ”come of age”, let them (also) ask for ”permission”, as do those senior to them (in age): Thus does God make clear His Signs to you: for God is full of knowledge and wisdom.
24:58. O you who believe! Let your legal slaves and slave-girls, and those among you who have not come to the *******age of puberty ask your permission******* (before they come to your presence) on three occasions;
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 8 :: Hadith 465
Narrated ‘Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since****** I attained the age of puberty********. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abii Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so.
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 101
Narrated ‘Aisha:
Allah’s Apostle said, “It is essential to have the *****consent of a virgin (for the marriage)****. I said, “A virgin feels shy.” The Prophet; said, “Her silence means her consent.” Some people said, “If a man falls in love with an orphan slave girl or a virgin and she refuses (him) and then he makes a trick by bringing two false witnesses to testify that he has married her, and then ****she attains the age of puberty ******and agrees to marry him and the judge accepts the false witness and the husband knows that the witnesses were false ones, he may consummate his marriage.”
Men/women acquire the knowledge of sex after the puberty:
Sayyidah Aisha said: When a girl is nine years old, she is a woman (meaning, she has attained puberty).‘ (Tirmidhi, Hadith 1109)
FOR MARRIAGE GIRL MUST PASSED THEIR PUBERTY LEVEL.
Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3426
Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4460
Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2098
Dawud :: Book 19 : Hadith 2979
Women permission required for marriage:
Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2091
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
A virgin came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and mentioned that her father had married her against her will, so the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) allowed her to exercise her choice.
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 99,98,100, 101
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 85 :: Hadith 78,79
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 51 :: Hadith 25
Muslim :: Book 8 : Hadith 3303 ,3305,3306,3307,3308
Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2076, 2077,2088,2091,2095
Malik :: Book 28 : Hadith 28.11.25
Malik :: Book 28 : Hadith 28.2.4
PROPHET MUHAMMAD SA SAYS
Dawud :: Book 29 : Hadith 3952
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: **************The child of adultery is worst of the three.**************
ACCORDING THE ABOVE LAW ISLAM AGREED MARRIAGE WITH GIRL 1)HER PERMISSION REQUIRED (MORAL) 2) SHE PASSED HER PUBERTY LEVEL(SCIENTIFIC)
CHALLENGE III :
IS ANY RELIGION ON EARTH (EXCEPT ISLAM) THAT AGREED /PROMOTE TWO CONDITION OF MARRIAGE (GIRL PERMISSION,PUBERTY) IS THERE ,PLZ BRING IT TO HERE & PROVE IT WITH SCRIPTURES EVIDENCE WE 1.7 BILLIONS MUSLIM READY TO ACCEPT THAT RELIGION /CULTURE,PLZ BRING IT ,ONLY ” ONE IS ENOUGH ” “ONLY ONE VERSES IS ENOUGH ”
OR PUBLIC APOLOGY REQUIRED FROM SALEEM SMITH TO ALL MEMBERS WHO SAYS PROPHET MUHAMMED SA A PEDOPHILES
ROBERT SPENCER & GANG IF U AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF COMMON SENSE PLZ ADVICE THE REAL CRIMINALS THAT I PROVE WITH ” VALID EVIDENCE ”,BEAT THEM WITH
LONG STICK & SAYS
Dawud :: Book 29 : Hadith 3952
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet MUHAMMED (peace_be_upon_him) said: **************The child of adultery is worst of the three.**************
Child sex tourism :
Thailand : 40% of prostitutes are child in Thailand
Northern Italy: 40% of prostitution affects minors.
Cambodia: 1/3 of prostitutes are child
India : 1.2 million child prostitutes
Brazil: 1.2 million child prostitutes
United States: Between 244,000 to 325,000 child prostitutes.
China: It is estimated that there are between 200,000 and 500,000 child prostitutes.
Mexico:16,000 children in Mexico were involved in prostitution
Sri Lanka, there are nearly 40,000 child prostitutes
In the Philippines, there are 60,000 to 100,000 prostituted children
In Nepal approximately 30% of them were found to be children.
in Vietnam, and 20,000 of these are children.
in Ukraine, research has shown that between 30 and 40 percent of prostitutes are between 11 and 18 years
in Russia approximately 20 to 25 percent of Moscow’s sex workers are minors.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism
wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_of_children
wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse
Teenage pregnancy: Countries Compared
1 United States 494,357 births
2 Poland 30,413
3 Germany 29,000
4 Canada 19,920
5 France 17,985
6 Japan 17,501
7 Australia 11,849
8 Spain 11,264
9 Italy 11,153
nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Health/Teenage-pregnancy
Champ says
shabeer …
I want to reward you with a drawing of moohamhead for all of your hard work in defending islam and your evil ‘prophet’ ..enjoy!
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/140/5/e/everybody_draw_muhammed_day_2013_by_ziggyman-d65y7dx.jpg
Such hard work deserves recognition 🙂
Kepha says
ANd in your own Dar-ul-Islam there are quickie marriages and divorces to cover prostitution with legal niceties.
To say nothing of your Afghan talibs extolling the beauties of a boy’s peach-shaped buttocks.
PRODOS says
Shabeer Hassan: Hey, if you really want to know about the Jews, read “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”.
It’s been a best seller for a century.Everyone from Henry Ford to Adolf Hitler has recommended it.
And now, Jews are finally owning up to it all!
How brazen they are!
https://youtu.be/7XrRyqses5U
May your spamming be unstoppable and your erection eternal (Al-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur’an, p. 351)
duh_swami says
I read the ‘Protocols’, and it is a lot of nonsense and almost as boring as Quran…You are full of prunes…
duh_swami says
The ‘protocols’ are full on nonsense and almost as boring as the Quran…’The Sex Life of the Boll Weevil’ was more interesting…
duh_swami says
MAKING MOVIE/CARTOON AGAINST RELIGIOUS RESPECTED PERSON IS MADNESS/COWARDNESS/PROVOCATION FOR VIOLENCE/ RACISM
You mean Mahoundian’s might get violent over a movie or cartoon? I thought Islam was all about love and tolerance? Are you saying Mahoundians have no love or tolerance?
Mark says
Unless he had also stopped drawing cartoons of Jesus and the pope etc. Of say that Islam has won this. They now have special consideration through the use of violence and threats.
Edward Cline says
Au contraire, M. Luz: You caved. And it doesn’t matter, because the Mohammadans still want your head.
Draki says
That’s a pretty wussy reason to not draw mohammed anymore “It no longer interests me.” I would have expected more of a, drawing mohammed reminds me of the friends I’ve lost and while I love the friends I’ve lost I don’t want that dragging heavily on me. But no longer interests me?! What a wussy.
Bezelel says
Could be a touch of PTSD. He might need at least a sabbatical. Regardless of what he does now he will not gain favor from islam. Mr Rushdie is still on the hit list.
JS says
I can understand Luz’s decision. He’s an atheist. Don’t you know that being an atheist is lonely? I’ve been there. Of course, I’m projecting. But it’s true. As much as atheists hate muslim extremists, they don’t have a strong community support from their own fellow atheists. And they don’t like Christians either. Most atheists just want to enjoy life.
Buraq says
Luz, Lose, Loser.
What he doesn’t understand is that he is up for slaughter anyway, because he has drawn cartoons of Muhammed in the past. Saying he won’t do it again doesn’t let him off the hook for a second – if that’s what he thinks.
You can’t just wish Islam away. That’s the problem.
Champ says
An artist put together this book cover design:
http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1411447528l/60276.jpg
…and muslims are still *offended* by the Truth behind this cover!
Bashy Quraishy says
A sensible and non-confrontationist decision by Charlie Hebdo’s cartoonist, Renald “Luz” Luzier I am sure that Freedom of Speech Fundamentalists would be hopping mad at this sane statement from the man who was a part of the offending magazine, Charlie Hebdo. Just because the man does not want to play their silly egocentric ideological games, they are accusing him as a coward. In his Inrocks interview, the famous Cartoonist Luz reacts furiously to the remarks by his old friends: “He isn’t Charlie any more. He’s just a part of Charlie’s history.” Well, congratulation, LUZ for being brave and sensible to reject the lobby that wants to have a conflict between the Islamic and the Christian world. This makes this news even more vital because it comes on the heels of the decision by Danish Cartoonists – who drew Prophet Mohammad’s Cartoons for the Danish Newspaper, Jyllands-Posten – to ban the republishing of their 2005 cartoons.
voegelinian says
Well, isn’t that special as the Church Lady used to say — the Muzzie and Phillip Jihadski on the same page…
rcourtemanche says
Can`t blame him; the French can`t even protect the Jews which is a much more sensitive political issue. With pusillanimous leaders and politicians all around nowadays, Islamism is definitely gaining ground. Geert Wilders`plan would need to be implemented soon. Come on, France! Show some guts.
Kepha says
I, for one, seldom bother with the Charlie Hebdo/National Lampoon/SNL “comedy” or “satire” in print or broadcast. Further, I haven’t looked at a Gay Trudeau cartoon in over forty years if I could help it. They’re part and parcel of a nexus that hammers it into us that Islam is such an oh-so-peaceful-and-tolerant religion soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo superior to the benighted Christianity to which I adhere. Further, it is all predictable Leftist drivel. When will they show a slot of an activist one day saying that SSM and the LGBT agenda will never lead to accepting pedophilia, and the next explaining how children are sooooooooo sensuous (hey, I’ve seen young neighbors, nephews, nieces, and sons growing up, and now have a granddaughter) and ought to be allowed to make “sexual choices” (of course informed by adults who wish to oh-so-lovingly indulge the child’s sensuosity). When have they ever dared to remind the world that Nelson Mandela loved to see people necklaced? When will they ever remind people that the Castro brothers and Ernesto Guevara Serna y Lynch imposed a reign of terror on Cuba? When will they ever see the blatant hypocrisy of those who blame the failures of Marxism-Leninism on the Slavic Uentermensch, Primitive Asiatic, and the Mulatto masses which the flight of Cuba’s middle class left poor Fleabag and Che saddled with?
I won’t be too tough on Luz. He’s probably burned out by what happened to his colleagues and sobered a bit when he sees his party’s clientele reminding him and others of who plans to be in charge. Give the poor guy time to reflect. It may make a Christian conservative out of him.