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UK admits Nazis from Spain, Canada and US for rally calling Jews “the enemy” and “children of darkness”

Apr 20, 2015 10:13 am By Robert Spencer

Hibbert_NeoNazi_31.JPGRecall that when Pamela Geller and I were banned from entering Britain, the Home Office sent me a letter saying that allowing me into Britain would be “not conducive to the public good” because I made the true statement that Islam “mandates warfare against unbelievers.” Then it came out that one email from the Home Office’s massive team investigating Geller and me noted that the dossiers making the case to ban us were filled with information about our “pro-Israeli views,” and argued that this material be removed, lest we “argue publically that their exclusion is on the basis of their support for Israel” — which indicated that that support was indeed a factor.

And now this. So Pamela Geller and I were banned and at least some people in the Home Office thought our support for Israel constituted evidence that we should be banned. Then the Home Office allows in these anti-Semitic neo-Nazis from all over the world. What does that tell us? It tells us that the British establishment is deeply afraid of offending Leftists and Islamic supremacists, and desperate to appease them — hence our ban, as absurd as it was. It also tells us that Jew-hatred is deeply embedded among that same British establishment, so that no one batted an eye about admitting these Nazis, or thought their laughing at genocide and promotion of another was “not conducive to the public good.”

Doomed Britannia Update: “Nazi invasion of London EXPOSED: World’s top Holocaust deniers… filmed at secret race hate rally where Jews are referred to as the ‘enemy,'” by Nick Craven, Paul Cahalan and Simon Murphy, The Mail On Sunday, April 19, 2015:

Nazi sympathisers, Holocaust deniers and their supporters from across the world have held a sickening secret rally in Britain at which speakers unleashed anti-Semitic rants, referring to Jews as ‘the enemy’ and ‘children of darkness’.

The meeting of the shadowy organisation will fuel fears of a growing resurgence in hatred towards Jews across Europe. The vile event was observed by a Mail on Sunday undercover team.

Held in London’s Victoria, the meeting was, said experts, the most significant gathering of Holocaust deniers Britain has ever seen, with speakers invited from Spain, Canada and the United States.

Today, the largest Holocaust remembrance event ever held in Britain will mark 70 years since the liberation of concentration camp Bergen-Belsen by the British Army.

But last Saturday, just a short walk from New Scotland Yard, it was clear that the sinister anti-Semitic conspiracy theories which led to the extermination of six million Jews are still fostered by a poisonous few.

In a room draped with the Union Flag, as the event called the London Forum unfolded, the audience:

Sniggered at the mention of ‘ashes rising from the death camps’ crematoria’;
Applauded as they were urged to ‘identify, counter and break … Jewish-Zionist domination’;
Laughed at the Charlie Hebdo massacre, and as an African leader at the Paris memorial ceremony was described as ‘some Negro’;
Cheered at the mention of a brigade of Spanish Fascists who fought for the Nazis;
Heard gay parents branded ‘monster families’ and mixed race children described as ‘blackos’.

Last night, there were calls from Jewish community leaders for police to investigate the group for race hate crimes.

‘The material from this white supremacist group makes ugly reading,’ said barrister Jonathan Arkush, vice-president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews.

‘On the face of it, their proceedings should be investigated to ascertain whether criminal offences have been committed, including incitement to racial hatred.’

The Mail on Sunday has passed its evidence to the Metropolitan Police.

The star speaker at the event was Spanish self-confessed Nazi Pedro Varela, 57, whose adoration for Adolf Hitler and the murderous Third Reich is unbridled.

He was arrested in Austria for praising Hitler in 1992 and he declared to a baying crowd in Madrid on the centenary of the Fuhrer’s birthday: ‘There were never any gas chambers in Auschwitz.’

Also present was America’s leading peddler of Holocaust denial and ‘revisionist’ theories, Mark Weber, 63, director of the Institute for Historical Review, based in Newport Beach, California. He wrote in 1989: ‘The Holocaust is a religion. Its underpinnings in the realm of historical fact are non-existent – no Hitler order, no plan, no budget, no gas chambers, no autopsies of gassed victims, no bones, no ashes, no skulls, no nothing.’

Our team of reporters and photographers watched as the participants – including a handful of women – gathered under Victoria Station clock, awaiting orders. Gerry Gable, editor and publisher of anti-Fascist Searchlight magazine and leading expert on the extreme Right, who worked with the MoS on our investigation, said last night: ‘This is the biggest and most significant meeting of Holocaust deniers that Britain has ever seen. It is a very worrying development.’

Many of those present were familiar faces from the British far-Right of the National Front and the British National Party, some of whom had been jailed for violence and public order offences.

For security reasons, none of them knew where the London Forum was being held, so in ones and twos the attendees were shepherded across the station concourse by former private school art teacher Michael Woodbridge, 69, who conspicuously carried a book by British Union of Fascists leader Oswald Mosley.

His tie clip was another chilling reminder of the BUF – its emblem clearly modelled on the infamous lightning bolts insignia of Hitler’s SS storm-troopers.

Woodbridge, contacted at his cottage in North Wales yesterday, told the MoS: ‘It is fairly assumed by people at the meeting that the Holocaust is an exaggeration to put it mildly. It has been used as a propaganda weapon to justify the war against Germany.’

The meeting’s visitors didn’t have a long journey – they were just yards from the four-star Grosvenor Hotel, where the plush Orient Suite, tucked away on the first floor, was booked out for six hours under the pseudonym the ‘Carlyle Club’ and draped with the Union flag.

Nervous-looking hotel staff loitered outside the room as the crowd began to file into the room, each person closely scrutinised by a well-built man wearing a black shirt on the door.

At the London Forum, Pedro Varela’s words were carefully chosen, as he admitted shortly after being introduced by the event’s ‘host’, former soldier Jeremy (‘Jez’) Bedford-Turner, 45.

Varela told the meeting: ‘We have to measure our words… I was asking Jez “can I say everything I believe in this forum?” He told me “as long as you do that in an academical [sic] way, in a serious way, it’s possible.” ’

Nevertheless, Varela, speaking in heavily accented English, referred to mixed-race children as ‘blackos’ and described gay parents as ‘making a monster family’.

He added: ‘They say Jews have the gold in the world and the power in the press and they are going to rule the world… So, do we have to be realistic, be similar to the officer of the general staff of an army… What are the enemy’s faults? We should also be smart and clever, as are the children of darkness… Sometimes we are not that smart.’

He also appeared to call for a boycott of Jewish shops and businesses, saying: ‘In the Middle Ages, the Jews had all the gold in the world but they were living in the ghettos. They still have the gold of the world and are the masters of it…

‘But now the gold is important for us. It is like a sword. If we say, OK fine, I have no more interest in your gold and your money and your shops and your consuming, the wax sword is going to melt.’ Approached yesterday by our reporter in Barcelona, Varela said, when asked whether he denied the Holocaust: ‘There’s a law in Spain comes into force in June which prevents me from answering that question so I have to be very careful with what I say.’

Asked if he was a Nazi, he said: ‘It depends what you mean by Nazi’, adding: ‘I didn’t live in Germany in the Hitler era but National Socialism offered a lot of solutions that were beneficial then and could be beneficial to modern-day society.’

Mark Weber’s speech bore a title straight from 1930s Berlin: ‘The Challenge of Jewish-Zionist Power’.

He said: ‘The Jewish connection covers all areas and reaches every level. Most Americans may not even sense this gigantic effort, but there is scarcely a Jew who is not touched by its tentacles.

‘In reality, the Jewish hold on American life is far more dangerous. Why? Jews in America have a strong loyalty to a foreign country – Israel.

‘Secondly, because of the distrustful and sometimes adversarial way in which Jews view the rest of us. This “chosen people” mindset, this “Us vs Them” attitude, is anchored in centuries of Jewish history and heritage.’

When Weber quoted from a rabbi’s essay about European anti-Semitism with the line ‘Hatred lingers in the air into which the ashes rose from the crematoria’, he earned himself applause along with sneering laughs.

With his audience clapping appreciatively, he added: ‘As long as the power of the very powerful Jewish lobby remains entrenched, there will be no end to the systematic Jewish distortion of history and current affairs… No task is more important or pressing than to identify, counter and break this power.

‘Today, we are engaged in a great global struggle which pits a self-assured and diabolical power which feels ordained to rule over others on the one side, and all other nations, indeed humanity itself, on the other.’…

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  1. wanda confer says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 10:40 am

    I look back over the years since the extermination of Jewish people happened. It is beyond me why these countries say the holocaust has never happened—it has. With what Obama and Jarrett are doing trying to negotiate a deal with Iran is beyond me—they threaten to wipe Israel off the face of the map…..why? Israel is calling them out and they do not like them..

    • Jay Airahs says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 8:11 pm

      True evil does not scorn — it smiles
      schadenfreude
      I remember reading a flyer from The Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC where a survivor of a Nazi death march during the bitter cold of winter recalls most vividly even more than the cold, the SMLE on the faces of some of local townsfolk.

      Dr. Josef Mengele, nicknamed The Angel Of Death would smile
      http://www.mengele.dk/

  2. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:02 am

    So the UK lets in Nazis, who in their heyday made a military and cultural alliance with Moslems from the Levant, but the will not admit Spencer and Geller into the Kingdom? Well, this is understandable, given that the smoldering Moslems there will not protest or get violent at the sight of Nazis, while there could be trouble if those two showed up on the scene, talking uncomfortable truths, as is their habit.

    • Spot On says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 2:57 pm

      If Hitler had been able to buy the UK and other Euro politicians, there would have been no WWII and everyone there and maybe here too would now be speaking German.The Saudi’s and other oil rich ME countries are buying our politicians. Hillary is a perfect example. I guess in politico-speak this is called global trade.

      • Don McKellar says

        Apr 20, 2015 at 6:29 pm

        Hitler tried to buy Prince Edward, who remained a Nazi sympathizer and Churchill had to relocate him to Jamaica because he was a security risk, and even there he managed to do some damage. Hitler imagined that if he could get the King Of England on side, the “good aryan” English would rally behind him. There is an excellent documentary titled “The Nazi King” from CBC that tells the story.

        • Mirren10 says

          Apr 21, 2015 at 7:33 am

          A few factual corrections here.

          One, ‘Prince Edward’ ceased to exist when Edward VIII abdicated. He was given the title of ‘Duke of Windsor”. He was never called ‘Prince’, except when he was Prince of Wales.

          Second, he was given the post of Governor of the **Bahamas**, not Jamaica. In fact, he actually made quite a good job of it.

          I don’t deny the Duke had Nazi sympathies; whether he would have ever agreed to be a quisling King over a sullen and resentful populace, is, I think, unlikely.

          If you’re interested in Edward VIII, and his reincarnation as Duke of Windsor, I recommend Philip Ziegler’s biography of him, available from Amazon as a hardback; also on Kindle.

        • Spot On says

          Apr 21, 2015 at 2:11 pm

          This is interesting. The religion of the Nazis won him over. There is no way to know if Hitler provided him favors. Today, we have politicians galore who favor Islam. Then as now, there is no way to know how many “favors” the enemy has provided our politicians.

          Hillary is probably a worst case scenario. She and Bill set out in the world as con artists from the very beginning. They would rather do a crooked deal than a straight deal. It is in their blood. However, to a lesser extent, I believe that many, if not most of our politicians feel it is OK to take checks from ME countries and others as well. It is the way they do business.

          This means to me at least, that we will not see any real definitive action against Islam until very large percentages of voters are ready to through the bums out. Even now, the politicians are moving fast to dilute the real voters with MC and Islam immigrant voters everywhere. If we don’t throw the bums out relatively quick, the end game will be all Muslim.

        • Mirren10 says

          Apr 21, 2015 at 3:20 pm

          I think, the favour the Nazis provided him with, was they were prepared to honour the Duchess with the HRH, and to curtsey and bow to her; very important to him at the time, when the British Royal Family refused to receive her. As far as *monetary* favours go, I would very much doubt it, since surely the Nazis would have demanded something in return; apart from a few ill advised comments, there is no evidence to suggest he did. But, who knows ?

          As for todays politicians, I have long thought many of them are trousering Saudi bribes; it’s one possible factor in their determination to exculpate islam from blame for anything.

          But, as you say, we will never know, unless that glorious day ever comes, when all these putative machinations are laid bare.

          As to the rest of our present day politicians, I have long thought that many of them are trousering bribes from the Saudis; that would explain, in part, their refusal to even recognise islam as a threat.

        • Spot On says

          Apr 22, 2015 at 8:23 am

          Mirren 10, Thank you for your fascinating story of Prince Edward. Just think, if madman Hitler could so easily seduce a Prince of Wales into possibly betraying his homeland during the 1930-40’s, how easy it must be for ME oil rich kingdoms such as the Saudis to seduce our current day crop of money grubbing politicians. Our politicians would be waiting in line to be seduced.

          When Bush, Clinton, and Obama met the Saudi King, it was love at first sight. And our dear “Jimmy”… he loved the Iranian rulers.

          Best to you.

        • Mirren10 says

          Apr 22, 2015 at 8:47 am

          ”When Bush, Clinton, and Obama met the Saudi King, it was love at first sight.”

          Yep. Our present Prince of Wales, Charlie bug a lugs, (as I like to call him 🙂 ) loves him too.

          Best to you as well, Spot On.

  3. mariam rove says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:04 am

    Of course they let the Nazis in and not Robert! There is no surprise here. Nazis and Muslim both hate the Jews!!! M

  4. el-cid says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:31 am

    The UK government was clear. Robert and Pamela are a threat to public safety because their presence will cause the Muslims to riot and engage in violence.

    The UK government knows that the worst thing the Jews will do is leave the country. Otherwise, they will stay home, work hard, and pay their taxes like dutiful citizens, hoping to be accepted into ‘polite’ society.

    • cs says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 4:48 pm

      True, the government is asking us out. They say, “How horrible”, but they don’t do shit about it, so live merrily with your sacred cows (muzzies).

  5. RonaldB says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:36 am

    As difficult as it is, these people should be temporarily admitted for purposes of presentation.

    There is no big mystery on the organizing methods of Nazis. They sprout their falsehood, repel 90% of normal people, and attract 10% who are mentally bent, and who want to join a group like the Nazis. So, the presentations are really aimed at gathering that segment that is psychologically Nazi in any case.

    So, will we be playing into their hands by allowing them the freedom to sprout their nonsense? Absolutely. But, the alternative is to put the government in charge of the content of speech. As we have seen in Britain, Austria, Australia, Holland, Canada, and other so-called “liberal” countries, the eventual consequence of permitting government to filter the content of speech is not truth, but adherence to the political narrative the government favors.

    In other words, you can have freedom of speech and open debate, or you can attempt to filter the content, and have censorship turn against you, as soon as some special interest or another captures the government and censorship apparatus.

    As the framers of the US Constitution always said, a free government depends on a free people. Freedom implies the ability to go wrong. The people must be permitted to hear all arguments, good, bad, and indifferent.

    The internet presents an unparalleled opportunity to get truth in front of anyone interested. This is exactly why the Obama administration is so interested in instituting controls on it, the latest under the rationale of “equal access”.

    • Papa Whiskey says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 3:16 pm

      As the bumper sticker on my car says, “If we don’t allow free speech, how will we know who the a$$holes are?”

  6. Boston Tea Party says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 11:52 am

    I think it’s simply a case that the UK knows that white, racist fascists are not numerous enough to be a serious threat, yet they serve a useful purpose—to propagate a false equivalency between the threats posed by neo-Nazis and the threats posed by jihadists. It’s phony, and the government knows it’s a phony equivalency—they’re not really worried about white neo-Nazis.

    This is pretty much the worldview of the left, that the real threat is white racists. So in one sense, it sort of serves the government purpose to give neo-Nazis some leeway and publicity. And then the neo-Nazis become, of course, easy to criticize.

    With Robert and Pamela, on the other hand—it’s a much more difficult situation for the government. Two prominent speakers who criticize Islam (and government collusion with Islam) in the name of human rights? Who stand up for free speech, women’s rights? Who denounce anti-Semitism? Who stand up for intellectual and artistic freedom? Well, I’m afraid that hits a little too close to home, and is MUCH more threatening to the ruling elite and their ill-conceived multicultural policies.

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 2:48 pm

      Re your last paragraph, BTP, spot on, bullseye, into the gold.

      As for the Nazi scumbags; they are **all** from EU countries, so they can travel where they like, within the EU. Yet another reason for us to get out of it.

      I don’t know whether Robert and Pamela had to apply for a visa; according to FO directives, US citizens wanting to come to the UK, for holiday purposes, shouldn’t have a problem.

      Obviously, as you point out, what they stand for was known, so they were denied entry. How I **despise** my ‘government’.

    • Lucretius says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 2:55 pm

      I think you hit the nail on the head.

  7. Ricky Black says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    People don’t understand that the children of Israel had a covenant with them back when most of the world was worshipping the moon god Baal, and the Israelis’ where not aloud to mix their seed with the rest of the people. That’s between God and the Israelis’, if people have a problem with that, they should take it up with god Almighty.

  8. Ricky Black says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    Covenant with GOD sorry

  9. Prinz Eugen says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Did sultan Barry attend this awe-inspiring conference? Sounds like he should have been the keynote speaker! Same goals, same allies, same totalitarian aims! Same worldwide dominating caliphate!

  10. Ephesian says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    This is beyond disgusting.The Uk is now a cesspit,the government quislings and traitors…I can’t see anything else left but civil war…then Robert,we will welcome you with open arms.It is not our wishes that you are barred from entering Britain.

  11. Don McKellar says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    CAMERON’S BRITAIN:

    Islamic jihadist hate preachers spewing lies and distortions — A-OKAY! COME ON IN!

    neo-Nazi hate preachers spewing lies and distortions — A-OKAY! COME ON IN!

    forces of good against the above, telling nothing but truths and insisting on accuracy — BANNED!

    Gee willikers, what’s wrong with this picture?

  12. Sam says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    I can not feel sympathy for Brits anymore. Why are they not rioting to get their country back. Well sorry I forgot we elected Obama twice. I have no right to put down Brits.

    It is really strange to see this cult called Islam is making life miserable for millions of people and nobody is doing anything to stop it. Just the opposite, seems everybody wants to help these “poor” moslems get away with everything. It feels almost not real.

  13. mortimer says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    Holocaust deniers? Ok! Come on in! Armenian Genocide deniers? Welcome, welcome…here’s the red carpet.

    Deniers of the 270 million victims of jihad? Our best friends. Let us know if anything or anyone bothers you! We’ll kick them out of UK!

    Nothing must stop the jihad!

  14. katarzyna says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    Freedom of speech British style
    According to Spiked’s Free ”Speech University Rankings” 80% of of British universities censor speech. Censoring pro-Israeli views belongs to the five most popular bans.
    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5556/uk-universities-free-speech

  15. gravenimage says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    UK admits Nazis from Spain, Canada and US for rally calling Jews “the enemy” and “children of darkness”
    ………………………………..

    Was it known what they were entering the UK for? If so, especially given the ban on the very peaceful Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, this is appalling.

    More:

    Sniggered at the mention of ‘ashes rising from the death camps’ crematoria’;
    Applauded as they were urged to ‘identify, counter and break … Jewish-Zionist domination’;
    Laughed at the Charlie Hebdo massacre
    ………………………………..

    Once again, this shows the alliance between Nazis and Islam.

    That Britain welcomed these dangerous creeps while continuing to ban the very people who warn against them is both appalling and suicidally foolish.

  16. Bezelel says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    Speaking ill about nazi’s is racist?

  17. Peter says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    Re-read Begin’s The Revolt, and you won’t be surprised if the British government is anti-Semitic. The British were less concerned, for example, about the millions of Jews murdered in the Holocaust, and more about the inconvenience of what to do with those that might survive.

  18. Fritz Kohlhaas says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 4:42 pm

    Britain made their biggest mistake by joining that corrupt bureaucracy called the EU! Joining the EU ha turned the Brits into a nation of snivelling Political Correct cowards!
    They need another Churchill NOW!

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 7:24 am

      ”Britain made their biggest mistake by joining that corrupt bureaucracy called the EU! ”

      Actually, when we first joined it, it was the Common Market, and we joined it for purposes of trade. It has since then morphed into the glutinous, unelected EU, which directs every member.

      We should, of course, have got out when it became clear what the EEC was turning into.

      • PJG says

        Apr 21, 2015 at 8:10 am

        You THOUGHT you joined it for trade purposes.
        You were conned. It was the first step. I saw my European friends fall for every step of the way to this disaster…until recently…

  19. Champ says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    Then it came out that one email from the Home Office’s massive team investigating Geller and me noted that the dossiers making the case to ban us were filled with information about our “pro-Israeli views,” and argued that this material be removed, lest we “argue publically that their exclusion is on the basis of their support for Israel” — which indicated that that support was indeed a factor. — Robert Spencer

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    One of the things I love and admire about Pamela and Robert is that they’re “pro-Israel”!

    And anyone that does NOT support Israel sides with pure evil. Period. So, which side are *you* on?

    ✡ I STAND WITH ISRAEL!! ✡

    • Joseph says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 9:41 pm

      Could you please move over a little Champ; I stand alongside of you for Israel.

      • R. K. MacUalraig says

        Apr 21, 2015 at 1:05 am

        Me too! Great comment, Champ.

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 5:04 am

      Me too.

      Long live Israel !

  20. Fritz Kohlhaas says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    Correction:
    Britain made their biggest mistake should read…..: Britain made her biggest mistake…….

  21. Wellington says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    It is telling and instructive that those who don’t tell the truth, for instance Holocaust deniers, are not banned by the British government but those who do tell the truth, for instance Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, are banned. I submit this serves as a stunning indictment of the political powers that be in modern Britain and serves as ipso facto evidence that when the moral compass of a government goes awry, which it surely has in the UK, then anything is possible.

    • Beth says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 6:55 pm

      Well said Wellington!

      I think for the citizens of the UK – these are very scary times (and too many of them don’t know it – yet)

  22. michaelwarden says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    I am very much surprised that any members of the British National Party were at the meeting and simply cannot beoieve it. If known they would be thrown out tout de bloody suite. It should be noted that Gerry Gable is a well known Communist and one of the leaders of the UAF which is basically a bunch of left wing thugs dedicated to breaking up any democratic meeting. Searchlight is a Fascist magazine.

    The BNP is a legally constituted political perty with members from pretty well everywhere – except, MUSLIMS.

    Certainly within the Conservative Party and the establishment generally there is an element of anti Semitism. Always has been. I shall certainly make enquireies re that meeting because it is extremely disturbing.

    • sheik yermami says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 6:13 pm

      There have been moments when the BNP made all the right noises. But when you scratch the surface you find Nazi rubbish and obsessive Jew-hatred.

      • michaelwarden says

        Apr 20, 2015 at 7:06 pm

        As a long time member of the BNP, I simply cannot believe that a bona fide member of the BNP could be in the same room as Gerry Gable without giving him a good kicking for the anti British Communist bastard that he is. UAF is a lefty street gang comaparable with Hitler’s SA ( the Brownshirts) . Just a bunch of thugs. I have written to the Chairman of the BNP, Adam Walker, for an explanation of possible breaking of Party rules. The Mail on Sunday is a Tory rag and is suspect but I will suspend further comment until I hear from Adam. His comments will be published here.

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 7:47 am

      ”I am very much surprised that any members of the British National Party were at the meeting and simply cannot beoieve it.”

      Come off it. The ‘ideals’ of the BNP haven’t changed one iota since that creep Griffin was in charge.

      ” If known they would be thrown out tout de bloody suite.”

      I know the BNP has been trying to repackage itself under Walker, a cosmetic exercise which has patently failed.

      As sheik yermami points out, it is merely a surface paint job.

      You’re wasting your time trying to convince people the BNP is a patriotic party which isn’t even one little bitty racist or anti-Semitic. All they have to do is go on the website.

  23. michaelwarden says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    Apologies for mis spellings. Your Comment box is somewhat difficult to read and correct typos..

  24. profitsbeard says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    The UK’s lunatic style of “discrimination” will slide their nation right out of history.

    Choosing Nazis over critics over the new fascism from the Koran is madness.

    History teaches, but only if you respect and learn it.

    To help preserve the courageous memory of two who fought against the first wave of Nazis in the Dutch Underground, check out and pass on this link for “WW II HEROES MEMORIAL BOOK” :

    http://www.gofundme.com/s4v9sus

    Unless we bring forward such shining examples of human decency surviving even the darkest of times people tend to forget that even an “average couple” can outwit and thwart Nazi scum and save “unsung Ann Franks from death”.

    (One refugee who they saved was a little Jewish girl named Vita (Life) whose hair they dyed blonde to dupe the superficial Aryans and who later became a mother and is now a grandmother.)

    Thanks for any help in spreading this effort.

    In the words of the Talmud:

    “Whoever saves one life, it is as if they saved an entire world.“

  25. duh_swami says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    How many of these thugs, punks and cretins, were even alive when Hitler was doing his thing? The 57 year old wasn’t, and neither was the 63 year old…Who taught them to be so mean and nasty?

  26. Angemon says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    “Nazi invasion of London EXPOSED: World’s top Holocaust deniers… filmed at secret race hate rally where Jews are referred to as the ‘enemy’”…

    (…)

    Held in London’s Victoria, the meeting was, said experts, the most significant gathering of Holocaust deniers Britain has ever seen, with speakers invited from Spain, Canada and the United States.

    No pious, devout muslim will ever disagree with what’s said of jews in this kind of meeting. But where they’re getting at is this:

    Many of those present were familiar faces from the British far-Right of the National Front and the British National Party, some of whom had been jailed for violence and public order offences.

    The idea that is being pushed here is that nazis – native and foreign alike- are the ones to blame for the increase in anti-jewish sentiment in Europe in general and the UK in particular. Nope, nothing to do with an increasingly emboldened muslim populace – muslims go on the offense and cry “racism” or “bigotry” when placed on the spotlight. The powers that be let them get away with it and the next time muslims are emboldened and push a bit harder, and so on.

    Speaking of islamic hatred of jews, Mein Kampf is regularly on the top books sold on the islamic world and plenty of islamic leaders have stated that the Jews deserved what Hitler did to them.

    He said: ‘The Jewish connection covers all areas and reaches every level. Most Americans may not even sense this gigantic effort, but there is scarcely a Jew who is not touched by its tentacles.

    ‘In reality, the Jewish hold on American life is far more dangerous. Why? Jews in America have a strong loyalty to a foreign country – Israel.

    ‘Secondly, because of the distrustful and sometimes adversarial way in which Jews view the rest of us. This “chosen people” mindset, this “Us vs Them” attitude, is anchored in centuries of Jewish history and heritage.’

    That’s a nice piece of fiction. It is, however, eerily spot-on if applied to muslims in the US. Wanna see?

    “‘The islamic connection covers all areas and reaches every level. Most Americans may not even sense this gigantic effort, but there is scarcely a muslim who is not touched by its tentacles.”

    How many muslim advisors are in the Obama administration, and where are the policies favoring, for example, Iran originate from? How many muslims in the US are afraid to, for example, leave islam or not wear a hijab because of threats of violence? How is it that, for example, muslim parents randomly decide to sue a school system for serving jelly, which is made from pork? How is it that migrant workers decide to go on strike until they are entitled to more than their non-muslim coworkers (extra breaks for praying in which non-muslims have to pick up their slack)?

    “‘In reality, the muslim hold on American life is far more dangerous. Why? Muslims in America have a strong loyalty to a foreign country – the ummah.”

    It’s true that “ummah” is not an existing country, but it’s a word used to describe the islamic community worldwide as a single entity. Muslims are expected to be loyal to the ummah and not the country in which they were born and/or raised, be it a muslim majority country or not. Hence why the islamic state is so appealing to muslims worldwide

    “‘Secondly, because of the distrustful and sometimes adversarial way in which muslims view the rest of us. This “chosen people” mindset, this “Us vs Them” attitude, is anchored in centuries of muslim history and heritage.’”

    The quran states that muslims are the best of people and that non-muslims are the worst of people because they are not muslims. It also states that muslims aren’t allowed to take non-muslims as friends or protectors unless they’re in a situation in which they are forced to do so, and even then they are not to consider them as friends or equals – as Abu Darda, a companion of muhammad, put it: “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them”.

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 7:54 am

      Hey, Angemon !

      Nice to see you commenting again, I’ve missed you.

      • Angemon says

        Apr 21, 2015 at 4:34 pm

        Hi Mirren.

        I’ve been short on time and as such I’ve been away from the comments sections, but things are returning to normal now.

        Hope you and your loved ones are doing great 🙂

  27. Ken Kelso says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    I thought these Nazis were wiped out at Stalingrad.

  28. Elisha says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    Judgement is coming upon the enemies of Israel, and what a great and terrible day that will be!

    The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter His voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of His people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

    “So shall you know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, My holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

    And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth from the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim.

    Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.

    But Judah shall dwell forever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.

    For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwells in Zion.” – Joel 3:16-21

    ————————————————————————————————————————————

    “In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

    And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.” – Zechariah 12:8-9

    Nobody can say they weren’t warned.

    All worship, thanks and praise to the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ!

  29. Zimriel says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    And here we are at Jihadwatch today reading reportage laundered from antifa operative Gerry Gable, who – if you asked him – would approve wholeheartedly with a ban against Spencer. Someone should ask Gable about Geller. Seriously.

    • zimriel says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 8:50 pm

      I did some more research on Gable. He turns out to be more interesting that I’d thought.

      Yes he is a violent antifa – he is famed for burgling David Irving’s home in 1963; and he was also a Communist at the time. But he’s also a Zionist, or at least became one – probably after 1967, would be my guess (a lot of commie Jews became noncommie Jews because of that). Gable’s gotten into some brawls with his comrades lately.

      Link to an angry commie, who DOESN’T like Gable, at my name.

  30. tedh754 says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    Why do they always seem to be saying, “The Holocaust never happened and the Jews had it coming to them?”

    • Wellington says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 9:32 pm

      Because, tedh754, of that terrible mental malady which is “Muslimthink.” This same malady allows for Muzzies aplenty to assert that Muslims were not behind 9/11 all the while they esteem what happened on that horrific day and still honor Osama bin Laden for arranging it. With Muzzies, logic is optional——-and ordinarily absent.

    • Jay Airahs says

      Apr 20, 2015 at 10:26 pm

      George Orwell could answer that question.

  31. Joseph says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    And history is repeating itself.
    It as if all those brave soldiers and civilians who died for the fight for freedom in WWII died in vain.
    Sad part is we are now more efficient at exterminating people. WWII was horrible, this next one is going to be worse, much worse. Am I depressed about it? NO, it is just another job to do, I only pray that I may have the same courage and fortitude as those brave soldiers of the past.

    • R. K. MacUalraig says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 12:55 am

      OO-RAH. I pray for the same thing.

  32. Nimrod says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    Nazi is a contraction for National Socialism.

    Why exactly is anyone surprised that a socialist government wouldn’t have a problem with a bunch of socialists?

  33. Laura says

    Apr 20, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    There is not going to be another holocaust its all Zionist lies for sympathy. They are war mongers and nobody wants their wars. They are slowly infiltrating to China. If China is foolish enough to take them in than good. They are not going to accuse my country of holocaust lies like they did to Germany.

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 4:59 am

      Another neo-nazi troll.

      Funny how they all call themselves ‘laura’ . A lack of imagination ? 🙂

      • alyn21 says

        Apr 21, 2015 at 6:55 am

        Anyone can have 15 minutes of fame by slamming the Jews. You do not have to have to have anything of value to offer the world or anything intelligent to say. i think Laura or whatever her name is has used up her 15 minutes. Time to move on.

      • CornHolio says

        Apr 21, 2015 at 1:03 pm

        Pretty sure Laura’s real name is “Muhammad ibn Abdullah bin Laura al-Mutalib”, or just “Laura” to her close friends and explosives dealer.

      • katarzyna says

        Apr 21, 2015 at 7:15 pm

        ”A lack of imagination?”

      • Mark says

        Apr 21, 2015 at 10:27 pm

        It’s odds on that laura is a muslim AND male.

  34. Westman says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:20 am

    There was a discussion on the Laura Ingraham show this morning in which it was mentioned that at one time there was training materials and instruction about Islam in US government and then it was removed. Sounds like an oblique reference to Mr. Spencer’s training materials.

    It seems the spineless UK bureaucrats are hoping they won’t still be in government when the people rebel against Islamization. Just keep out the truth tellers, keep the lid on, and collect the government salary and hopefully IWBEH (I Won’t Be Here) when real trouble starts.

    That idea is disastrous because like cance, the most dangerous words are: Maybe It Will Go Away…

    • Westman says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 12:21 am

      Cance = Cancer

  35. Stephen Green says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 4:52 am

    You were banned AFAIK due to the public disorder that may have occurred with Muslims and their far-left allies being wound up to a point of frenzy by their various leaderships. The far-left, while having a destructive cultural impact, have very little traction politically and economically and therefore are forced into a tiresome oppositionalism: marches, sit-ins, petitions, spitting outrage, yada, yada. This threatened violence and disruption situation does not apply to the London Forum, which seems to be organized on a ‘need to know’ basis and therefore unlikely to see the same levels of public disorder.

    • voegelinian says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 3:39 pm

      Yes, I think that is the primary motivation from various Western authorities when they make a show of force either through censorship or through riot police ordering anti-Islam protestor groups or individuals to move to different areas or to cease and desist — the primary motivation is a semi-conscious dread that too much of this demonstrative anti-Islam (whether in demonstrations or in public speeches, etc.) will result in the “Poking the Angry Hornet’s Nest” of the Muslim demographic which, in this conception, exists like a constant potential “powderkeg”.

      So far, so good. The authorities are right about their semi-conscious dread. However, they are also motivated by a countervailing attitude — an unwillingness to face the logical consequences of this, because of the axioms & givens of Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism they hold dear, coupled with their perception that Muslims constitute an Ethnic People (which immediately engages the hot buttons of White Guilt; etc.).

      • CornHolio says

        Apr 21, 2015 at 3:45 pm

        It is a difficult situation. Western politicians are for the most part guys with nice teeth and suits who can’t do much more than smile and wear nice suits, and are chiefly motivated by getting another term of office. How to motivate them to see the long-term, when all they really want is to keep things calm so that hopefully the shite hits the fan during the next guy’s term?

  36. Gamal says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 7:17 am

    Mark Weber said “Today, we are engaged in a great global struggle which pits self-assured and diabolical power which feels ordained to rule over others on the one side, and all other nations, indeed humanity itself, on the other.’… Doesn’t that sound like Islam? Why does he not express this regarding Islam? Why regarding the Jews who are targets of Islam? It’s amazing how not just Weber but so many others carry on about the Jews when the problem clearly is not the Jews.

  37. cheesecake says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 7:36 am

    My grandfather died in ww2 fighting for British freedom including free speech and the right to express views and opinions others may dislike. I believe everybody has a right to free speech no matter how stupid their opinion is.

    Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer were banned because of threats of violence from certain groups such as the fascist labour party funded uaf.

  38. Gordon Miller says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 9:57 am

    The UK, based on the comments in the article above, are quite clearly in more trouble than the USA regarding Muslims. That’s saying a lot because we are in serious trouble here.

  39. duh_swami says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 10:00 am

    Years ago I worked with an older British man who was in the Brit Army that liberated one of the famous death camps…He was one of the first in through front gate, while Nazi guards were retreating out the back gate, shooting Jews as they left…Based on what he saw with his own eyes, if someone told him the holocaust didn’t happen, his fist would meet their nose…

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 11:19 am

      A friend’s father served as a field surgeon for the 101st Airborne from the Normandy landing all the way through to war’s end. He was the doctor with the company that arrived at the first death camp; he was the one who gave the order to the soldiers to not feed the surviving Jews too much because it could cause pain and death in some. He said that this was a tough order to give, and that the soldiers took it hard. He also said that what they saw there was a revelation about why they had gone through the horrors of Normandy and the Ardennes. The good doctor ended up commanding all medical care half of Germany for two years after the surrender, before he was finally honorably discharged and returned home to Minnesota.

      Also, despite the rules of war, he and all the other Army doctors there openly carried sidearms. He noted that their thought was that it was unlikely the Nazis would not pull the trigger on them because of the rules. He also said that, on the beaches just after the invasion, that he went through triage on a dozen soldiers who were bleeding from the eyes and ears, and as instructed left them all to inevitably die from from the concussive shock of shells raining onto the beach from a few miles behind the pillboxes. The 13th soldier he got to was, mercifully, only gut shot from a machine gun. He treated the wounded soldier, and was later told that the man lived after abdominal surgery on a medical boat sitting nearby back on the waters of the English Channel.

      The Holocaust happened as sure as Normandy did.

  40. Lioness says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 11:13 am

    There are 1.6 Billion Muslims and only 20 Million Jews worldwide. Guess who is blamed for everything from global warming to ISIS? The Jews, of course. Antisemitism is alive and fourishing worldwide, especially in Europe.

  41. Mirren10 says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    I think, the favour the Nazis provided him with, was they were prepared to honour the Duchess with the HRH, and to curtsey and bow to her; very important to him at the time, when the British Royal Family refused to receive her. As far as *monetary* favours go, I would very much doubt it, since surely the Nazis would have demanded something in return; apart from a few ill advised comments, there is no evidence to suggest he did. But, who knows ?

    As for todays politicians, I have long thought many of them are trousering Saudi bribes; it’s one possible factor in their determination to exculpate islam from blame for anything.

    But, as you say, we will never know, unless that glorious day ever comes, when all these putative machinations are laid bare.

    As to the rest of our present day politicians, I have long thought that many of them are trousering bribes from the Saudis; that would explain, in part, their refusal to even recognise islam as a threat.

    • Mirren10 says

      Apr 21, 2015 at 3:26 pm

      Ignore the last para; I’m commenting on my tablet, and for some reason, the cursor keeps disappearing. Sorry.

  42. cheesecake says

    Apr 21, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    I don’t recall there bing any areas of Europe which are Jewish only and none Jews are attacked. But there are plenty of muslim areas where none Muslims are attacked. The Jews will not destroy the European way of life but Islam will.Europe needs the Jews and israel to exist.

  43. Enragedsince1999 says

    Apr 24, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    And the US, UK and EU aided the violent Nazi West Ukrainian putsch on Feb. 22 last year that overthrew the democratically elected President Yanukovich of Ukraine. Mass terror on the civilian population of East Ukraine who refused to accept the putsch went on ever since, with unconditional backing of the US, UK & EU. 300 US Army rangers have just started training the all-volunteer Nazi West Ukrainian “national guard” who had committed mass torture and murders of civilians, and who can be seen in numerous pictures sporting SS insignia and swastikas, and goose-stepping under the banner of the SS Waffen division Das Reich. The US & UK aid both the Nazis and the Islamo-Nazis. This is an evil pattern. We the Resistance of various countries should unite, organize and raise our voices demanding a new Nurember trial for the US, UK and EU war criminals, and our so-called “free” media who, with totalitarian near-unanimity, have been backing pro-Nazi and pro-Islamo-Nazi policies of our criminal governments.

    Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

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