In the twentieth century, the field of Middle East Studies was dominated by the graduates of only a handful of schools. Then, inspired by the horrors of 9/11, scholars from a variety of fields entered the discourse on terrorism, Islamism and the Middle East. Valuable contributions have been made by surgeons, psychiatrists, theologians and classicists. This injection of new ideas into a field grown insular and tainted by Gulf State (especially Saudi) petro-dollars offers great potential for fresh perspectives, but also for the same leftist biases that permeate most of academe, now delivered in new and clever ways.
On March 23, 2015, historian Jonathan Judaken, Spence L. Wilson Chair in Humanities at Rhodes College lectured on “Judeophobia and Islamophobia” at the University of Rochester (NY). To an audience of approximately 50 people in an oak-paneled, marble-columned room at the Rush Rhees Library, Judaken gave a very selective history of Jew-hatred and Muslim-hatred. Referring to the Charlie Hebdo and Hyper Cacher attacks, Judaken argued that we are all swayed by a series of “metanarratives” characteristic of two kinds of thinkers. The benighted majority, seeing a rise of Islam in France and greater Europe but blind to the institutionalized prejudice against Muslims in France, is “driven by ideology,” while the enlightened few who “see Muslims and Jews living and working together in Paris” are “informed by sociology.” With some dramatic flair, he inquired of the audience members: “what’s your story?”
Judaken’s lecture was heavily influenced by French philosopher and literary critic Jacques Derrida — the father of Deconstruction. Like other forms of post-Modernist thought, Deconstruction is a philosophical and linguistic “tactic” designed, as Terry Eagleton puts it, “to show how texts come to embarrass their own ruling systems of logic; and deconstruction shows this by fastening on the ‘symptomatic’ points, the aporia or impasses of meaning, where texts get into trouble, come unstuck, offer to contradict themselves.” Derrida’s characteristic technique is to select for close scrutiny a seemingly inconsequential part of a text, and then to dissect (deconstruct) the text, reducing it to an “endless play of signifiers” that never brings closure to meaning. For Judaken, it is the hyphen in anti-Semitism, and the concept of “Semite” and things “Semitic” that comprise the impasses of meaning. With some post-modernist sleight of hand, “anti-Semitism” was first discarded for “antisemitism” and then replaced with “Judeophobia.” The concept of “Judeo-Christian Tradition” was also deconstructed, as was the idea of “Oriental” in a predictable bit of praise for “the prescient Edward Said.” A much-simplified description of the Crusades as an offensive campaign designed to kill Muslims, rather than a defense of Christendom, was followed with an exaggeration of Islamic contribution to Western civilization, culminating by crediting Islam with having “preserved, elaborated on and indeed expanded upon” Western thought.
Once a post-modernist has deconstructed the “old ways” and “privileged” meanings, the path is clear for a new model of meaning offered in its stead. For Judaken, the erroneous, privileged idea is that Europe’s Muslims are attacking Europe’s Jews due to anti-Semitism (ie., due to the fact that they are Jews). This allegedly outdated idea is “deconstructed” and then traded for the assertion that “Europe’s Jews have become part of the hegemony of Europe…and are targeted by Europe’s Muslims because of their European-ness rather than their Jewish-ness.” According to Judaken, “Judeophobia has run its course,” “Islamophobia is the new paradigm in Europe” and “Muslims are the new Jews.”
Judaken relied on the work of fellow post-modernists, Gil Anidjar, trained in comparative literature, and anthropologists Ivan Davidson Kalmar and Matti Bunzl. Bunzl is author of a book titled Anti-Semitism and Islamophobia (2007) which argues that “anti-Semitism was invented in the late nineteenth century to police the ethnically pure nation-state. Islamophobia, by contrast, is a phenomenon of the present, marshaled to safeguard a supranational Europe.” Like Gil Anidjar, whose work has been covered by Hugh Fitzgerald, Judaken uses Derrida to subvert logic and distort facts of history. Like Ivan Davidson Kalmar, Judaken moves easily from scholarship to intimidation, as in this excerpt from Kalmar’s 2013 book on Orientalism: “as anyone even slightly familiar with Islam knows, among the many names of God ar-ahram, the merciful, is uppermost. To describe him as a heartless purveyor of cruel punishment is simply false.” The same kind of intimidation can be seen in Judaken’s decree that anyone calling for a reformation of Islam, “constructs Muslims and Islam as primitive.” This charge is made only to silence critics and is akin to the Post-modern accusation of “Other-ing” one’s enemies.
Judaken argued with some validity that Muslim demonization of Jews was influenced by Western, Christian demonization of Jews, but he employed the idea primarily to displace and expunge Islamic anti-Semitism. This itself is a form of “constructing Muslims as primitive,” for it suggests they are incapable of understanding themselves.
Judaken also exaggerated the much-vaunted tolerance extended to Jews in the Muslim world “where they were treated much better” after expulsion from Christendom. Much attention was paid to the Roman Catholic Church’s 4th Lateran Council (1215) and its requirements for non-Christians to display their minority status. But the 4th Lateran Council came centuries after the Islamic tradition of forcing non-Muslims to wear clothing identifying their status. Long before the 4th Lateran Council, the so-called Pact of Umar spelled out the rules of dhimmitude — a concept that did not come up in Judaken’s talk. He would do well to put down Derrida and read Bat Ye’or.
In the Q&A portion, one questioner sought clarification on the assertion that “Muslims learned hatred of the Jews from Christians in the West, especially during the 1930s” by asking about the many passages in the Koran and Hadith exhibiting hatred of Jews. Judaken answered, “those passages aren’t that important.” Such a response is no longer acceptable after decades of Islamists from Khomeini to bin Laden, from the Muslim Brotherhood to ISIS, citing the Koran and Hadith in support of their demonization of Jews. Judaken needs to reexamine parts of the Koran such as 2:61, 2:97–98, 4:46, 4:160–161, 5:64, 5:78 cited by Islamists. He should put down Gil Anidjar and read Martin Kramer.
A.J. Caschetta is a senior lecturer at the Rochester Institute of Technology and a fellow at the Middle East Forum.
Nathan says
What a twat!
DP111 says
What a twat indeed.
Very soon, Nazis will be the new Jews.
Lets make a list of New Jews as time goes by
1. Muslims
2. Nazis
3. Stalinists
4. Maoists
OOPs. This is a list of the people/ideologies that have perpetrated the geatest genocides in the histroy of mankind.
Bill says
Sadly and alarmingly true.
nicu says
What a BS — these psychos dare to compare themselves with the Jews ?
In Germany Jews were normal people situated there for many hundred years – til Hitler showed up and poisoned a whole Nation with his sick thoughts .
Muslims don’t belong to Europe or other Non – Muslim countries !
they even hate these countries and only want to beg and spread their sick ideology — they love to see themselves as victims – but actually they are the worst aggressors invading the world and spread terror while living like parasites !
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Lets make a list of New Jews as time goes by
1. Muslims about 125 million deaths, most of them during the Moghul jihad invasion and occupation of India
2. Nazis about 60 million deaths during WWII, which it started
3. Stalinists about 20 to 40 million deaths by execution, freezing in the gulag, and starvation caused by central planning imcompetence
4. Maoists about 40 million deaths, mostly by forced starvation to achieve a new order in the agricutural economy of China
That’s not a fun list. The worrisome part is that nuclear weapons hadn’t yet been invented when these death tolls were attained.
jihad3tracker says
Omit intellectual baloney and get to haram bacon. The most courageous person on our planet — Pam Geller : “Islamic Jew hatred — It is in the Qur’an” .
Huck Folder says
“Islamic Jew hatred — It is in the Qur’an”.
That’s not the problem.
It doesn’t stay there.
There’s lots of nasty stuff in the Old Testament,
but it’s purely historical, and much unprovable.
I.e. it’s DESCRIPTIVE.
Everyone here knows that The Book of Hate™
is PRESCRIPTIVE and is the raison d’être of
the rabid worshipers of mo.
The closer they come to the ‘most perfect man ever’
(fucking 11 wives in one night? Burning victims alive?)
the better moslem they are.
Bill says
Voila!
Beagle says
Some beliefs are so outlandishly counterfactual and delusional it takes a very educated person to hold them. Judaken should have a PhD in reification.
RonaldB says
I’m going to go a bit out on a limb here, as the brief article only skims on the logic, or lack thereof, contained in Jonathan Judaken’s talk.
Judaken represents to me the academic immersed in the details of his own web, supported and critiqued by a closed circle of like-minded academics who review each other’s articles, control the hiring of fellow professors, and hire each others students. In other words, their connection to empirical reality is very thin, and their actual contribution to anything objectively useful is even thinner.
They tend to take as axioms to their philosophy the statements most strongly in need of empirical validation. For example, the statements about the institutionalization of Islamophobia in Europe are the ones most strongly crying out for empirical research and investigation. But instead, these statements are the foundations of his conclusions, rather than the objects of his examination. An example of this type of thinking is the statement that because more proportionally more blacks are incarcerated in the United States, it indicates that the system of justice institutionalizes prejudice. The possibility that a higher proportion of blacks exhibit behaviors leading to prison is simply not studied, or is explained away.
A couple of these type of thinkers have been showcased in previous Jihad Watch postings. They may actually be brilliant people and gifted writers, but their refusal to examine critical assumptions, rather than adopting them wholeheartedly, makes them more ideologues than researchers.
Wellington says
Your comment, RonaldB, reminded me of what a scientist who called into the Dennis Prager radio show said and that is that the old way of collecting facts and then forming a hypothesis has been sadly replaced by forming a hypothesis and then looking for any facts that might in any way confirm the hypothesis and excluding those facts that don’t.
DP111 says
Climate Change?
TheBuffster says
Yep, climate change.
My husband and I are reading a book of essays written by scientists, exposing the shoddy methodology and outright fraud employed by a number of climate scientists. Corruption after corruption. Post Modernism has really done one hell of a number on science, at least in the climate realm. Unbelievable.
It’s the very concept of reason that has to be restored to our educational institutions after this deadly PM trend has scrambled its way through academia.
Wellington says
Yep, climate change could be the “poster boy” for this rot. What makes it all the more disturbing is that now even science is being polluted with bogus thinking. The colleges of liberal arts and education have been ruined and now it is science’s “turn.”
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Climate Change?
Don’t get me going. I’m old enough to remember when it was called Global Warming, that term used before the world moved back into its triennial cooling cycle 18 years ago.
The scariest thing about climate change is that the clinically insane Al Gore came within a whisker of taking the Oval Office. To see how bad that would’ve been take a look at the Barack Hussein Obama presidency. Did you know that climate change is a bigger threat to us than ISIS? I didn’t, and was shocked when the war coward John Kerry told me so.
pumbar says
Entirely true. This sort rubbish, spoken in the rarified air of the academy, reminds me of the Sokal affair. Where the scientist Alan Sokal designed a paper to demonstrate that “a leading North American journal of cultural studies . . . would publish an article liberally salted with nonsense if
(a) it contained the right buzzwords and
(b) flattered the editors’ ideological preconceptions.”
It was peer reviewed and published…
https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~abhishek/sokal.html
Proud Pork Fan says
Reminds me of Reza Asslan, another self-appointed “expert” to whom the liberal media turns to for “answers” who proves that all it takes is to be a part-time creative writing teacher to have more authority on Islam than the Koran and all the hadiths combined, as long as your audience are reality-disconnected liberal relativists who are looking to be fed some juicy red-meat.
It is ironic that many of these same liberals profess to be “evidenced-based”, that is to say need good evidence to form a conclusion. And yet instead of studying the Islamic canon to understand the Islamists’ abominable behavior, they instead turn instead to arm-chair “experts” who spout out absurdities and then use those absurdities as their proof. No fact-checking required.
With a simple wave of his pathetic hand Judaken can dismiss the mountains of evidence we have that the Islamic doctrine is responsible for Muslim Jew-Hatred. “those passages aren’t that important” he says. He would be beheaded for blasphemy for insulting the Koran in any Sharia country worth its camel piss.
spot on says
RonaldB, Well said. What a waste of energy and talent. If today’s academia operates with this kind of defective logic, it needs to be scrapped and started all over again. Making matters worse, these people protect their friends and get rid of anyone who disagree with them.
wtd says
As I trudged through this nonsense, the following quote begged the question:
Could Judaken’s ideals survive his own formula/test/tactic? Not very likely.
shrugger says
If I’ve got what you said correct. I could explain his path of research by simply stating “Echo Chambers are phenomenal research tools”
Does that sound about right~?
RonaldB says
Yeah. That’s another way of putting it.
Academics like Judaken validate through the consensus of a small, closed, self-contained group of tenured professors who control the hiring and promotion practices of their departments, and who literally can’t imagine encountering a colleague with a different orientation.
They are bullies and cowards. They avoid debate, written or verbal, with opponents who can match them, but they use the power of grading, promotion, and academic rewards to enforce consensus to their own ideas.
underbed cat says
Thank you Ronald B. for summarizing the above article, a little deep in the woods for me…although I guess I came to the same conclusion and liked your comment “academics immersed in details of his own wed”.(that is how the web searches work) and ..”need for empirical facts”.
I wanted to offer a little humor in regards to the following conversation that connected the situation to the study of climate change, the details have faded a bit but here it goes. A report was issued about a Russian ship that traveled to the Arctic with equipment,scientists, scholars and tourists to collect data due to the threat of global warming. However, the temperature dropped, the ship became encased in ice unable to navigate further. A call was made for an ice breaker to help free the ship full of scientists. A Chinese icebreaker arrived but soon found that they were also frozen in ice…a second call was made for another icebreaker. The second icebreaker became locked in the ice. Finally a “fueled” helicopter came to their rescue all but the necessary crew. About a week or so later (not sure of time frame) thankfully the temperature warmed a bit and the ship and icebreakers, were released from the ice. Irony sometime makes good humor..JW is like a helicopter.
sheik yer'mami says
Sounds about right.
These wakademic tossers dictate the consensus of a small, closed, self-contained group of tenured professors who then spread rubbish as the agreed narrative.
“The Christians are worse than Muslims”, they say. I keep hearing that everywhere in the Jewish community. But I personally don’t know a Jew who lives among Muslims.
Joseph says
These people have taken way too many stupid pills, much too much. I bet if breathing wasn’t a reflex action they would probably(in their blithering idiocies) forget to do just that.
No Fear says
The “glorious Quran” is full of anti semitic rants……. and so are a lot of senior Islamic clerics.
But the anti semitism of Islam is not related to Islam !
LOL.
Wellington says
This article is indicative of what has happened to modern academia in the West. It is plagued by “overthink” which serves no useful purpose, especially to the West at large since this “overthink” has built into it a hatred of Western Civilization.
All of this crap—-deconstructionism and the whole nine yards of nonsense—-enables the weak, the ignorant, the lazy and the pompous, achieves absolutely no positive at all, and confuses young minds still full of mush. It is nonsense posing as something sapient and it is destructive of true learning. It is modern Sophism and many a Socrates is needed to put these modern Sophists in their place.
No surprise, though, that Islam is exculpated by this rot because, you see, Islam is not Western. It is part of the noble “other,” and even though rubes like Judaken may say things which are actually condescending towards Muslims in the sense that they are too ignorant to really know what is going on, such “others” as Muslims are still not to blame at all precisely because they are not Western.
Pure crap. Virtually all of it. But dispositive of just how low academia in the West has sunk to.
I know. I spent a third of a century in academia and met many like Judaken. Everyone of them filled me with contempt, only the degree of contempt being a variable. But they’re all over the place now and have largely taken over education in Western nations. And they love their cute phrases like “transformative connections, “skill versus content,” “epistemological inquiries,” “impasses of meaning,” blah, blah, blah, all of which add up to no real learning at all, only an anarchical cynicism about most everything with no overarching narrative set within a chronological framework.
So sad. So tragic. So useless. So tedious. So stupid. But helpful to Islam which thrives upon weakness and lack of resolve in the non-believer. Yes indeed, the Age of Nonsense marches on.
sinantara says
I came to the US in the 90ties to study documentary video at a liberal college. I truly became amazed at the existing PC culture. Earlier on this site I posted my opinion that PC is a Christian h heresy that has become the cult of the other. In Marxism-Leninism God has become diamat, the Church the Party, the secretary of the party the pope etc. Cultural Marxism has replaced the church wth liberal colleges/faculties and the clergy with professors, who would not be there if they were clever, and thy neighbour with “the other”. Of course PC dogma is about repairing past wrongs, but often I just heard “four legs good, two legs bad, four legs good, two legs bad. And, I saw that victimhood is like heroism. Therefore tenured professors who had been saved from the Sudan (from the northern jihad). the rich kids of Ethipean diplomats and published Nigerain poets (benefactors of MC which states that favoring Shakespeare over a third world poet is akin to cultural imperialism) where acting as if they where the people brought to the US in chains–a typical tale was “that cop gave me that look as if he was thinking where did that nigger stole that car?” Usually oh ohd with sympathy… My own professor was white and straight and therefore always complaining that she was discriminated against and didn’t get tenure because she was white and that therefore she could complain about it. because of it. So she made up for her failings with radical feminism–she actually didn’t believe in at all with made her a reasonable person. Then she made it by marrying a Muslim and converting. At last, she had gained the ranks of victimhood. which made her an unreasonable person because she now accused me of hating Islam, yet I was just critical like before. That was the end of our friendship. It is just now that I understand the dynamics of that particular PC academic subculture… So my former professor in micro ecosystem needed to be a victim to belong. What was that about turn on, drop out, turn in? Nex t step, you have to prove your victimhood by provoking attacks on your person. So your’re start wearing a scarf so that people look at your scarf, which then is explained as “giving you that look”. Luckily her husband was a good man who just loved her for what she was. And yes, in my class was a beautiful blonde Jewess who to be accepted had to complain about how she was discriminated by other Jews who called her a “shiksa” because of her looks. Poor girl. Since I was Indonesian I was accepted,as a victim of colonialism and just kept it like that. In my eyes, liberal colleges are part of your democracy, there is place for excellence and for mediocre ness and everybody has the right to higher learning, and this is not just about science but about culture, building the learning society and accepting the normal curve too. So let’s say the Judakens of the world are just part of the discourse. I remember a cartoon from the 70ties, a mass of hysterical screaming red guards waving Mao’s little red book, with the dry caption, “Every society has its punks.”
sinantara says
sorry, correction, could NOT complain about it
particolor says
Nice read !! Thanks ! 🙂
Papa Whiskey says
Then she made it by marrying a Muslim and converting. At last, she had gained the ranks of victimhood. which made her an unreasonable person because she now accused me of hating Islam, yet I was just critical like before. That was the end of our friendship. It is just now that I understand the dynamics of that particular PC academic subculture… So my former professor in micro ecosystem needed to be a victim to belong.
There it is. What these creatures really seek with all of their convoluted claptrap is POWER. They privilege the “Other” in order to intimidate and inculpate their opponents, and some take the next step and convert so as to don a hijab or a kufti and actually become the “Other” — thus (in their minds) their position becomes even more morally unassailable.
mr clem snide says
I actually check on the Religion of Peace website , Jihad Watch and Pamela Gellers website pretty much every day. I simply can’t spend hours at a time reading about the latest atrocities , or analyses by people who are intelligent and capable of producing a cogent expression of their views because: it gets too distressing . But the one category of individual that I completely LOATHE is the university social sciences / women’s/gender studies academics who convert and marry
a muslim and start wearing a hijab. The kindest thing I can say about them is they are sick individuals who need medical/psychiatric help.
sinantara says
“The problem with the Other” said John “Is that some others are more other than others. You have to respect the Other, but some are insulted by you being the other, so to respect them you have to become the same as them, but then you are not allowed to respect the other who used to be the same as you were, which would cause me not to respect those being the same like me who used to be the Other. And then I am back being the other, only then I am otherwise. And those who are the same then are the others again, but otherwise than the others who are not the same. Do you see the problem?”
“Yes John< said thelma, I see the problem".
Excerpt from my short story "John is Dead" which is still somewhere in cyberspace where I entered it into some contest.
Wellington says
Thanks for that narration, sinantara, though I was not surprised by what you conveyed. I like what Dennis Prager has said and that is that the two worst things about the past half century in America have been television and college education.
voegelinian says
PC MC is, in a sense a “Christian heresy”; but to leave it at that would be misleadingly simplistic, I think. It’s a good place to start; but not to rest and end there. Two things to keep in mind: 1) Not everything can be thoroughly explained; some things are just part of the mystery of reality. And 2) PC MC has a lot of good in it (explaining in part why it has such obviously broad appeal and hold in an otherwise relatively healthy society).
RonaldB says
Thanks for sharing your academic experiences, Wellington. I always gain by hearing your insights.
The writings of Sophists like Judaken being, as you pointed out, divorced from any reality or objective validation process, are arbitrary and nonproductive. I can’t imagine a student taking any marketable skill with him after a class with Judaken, except maybe as an equal-opportunity compliance official in a government or corporate bureaucracy, where he can build a personal empire and help to level out any rewards for actual competence or contributions.
wtd says
Ditto ((Wellington))!
Don McKellar says
“…asking about the many passages in the Koran and Hadith exhibiting hatred of Jews. Judaken answered, “those passages aren’t that important.””
AND THERE YOU HAVE IT! With a wave of his hand, the many passages of hate and intolerance for Jews in the Koran and the hadiths are CLEARED of responsibility for all the institutionalized Jew hatred of Islam across the globe. The Great Man has spoken!
What a fake poseur son of a bitch.
particolor says
For every Action there is an equal and Opposite Reaction !
Scott says
He sounds like a post modern, inverted reality challenged, upside down-ist with a malignant neo modern case of bull€hit-itis and a haunting case of Kafka-ism.
In other words he’s a putz……
Westman says
If Muslims are the “New Jews”, then bring the world a contemporary real science scholar who pushes the boundary of the known, a world class artist, a world class composer, a world class anything Islam didn’t purchase. So little accomplished with 10% of the world’s population while all the Jews are only 0.2%. There are 50 times more Muslims than Jews.
Because if its numbing and enslaving of the human mind, Islam will never turn Muslims into the New Jews. Imagine shutting down CERN’s collider 5 times a day for prayers. The Islamic mind has never made the transition to continuously changing processes. There is no innovation in Islam.
Jews don’t massacre Jews in the name of their God. Islam has fully earned a wart on its image in Europe -read its signs at every demonstration.
Silvia says
Equating the muslims with The Jews is the most cynical, despicable thing to do.
The Jews never tried to force their faith/way of life on anybody.
The Jews never tries or wanted to kill anybody for insults and much worse.
The Jews were citizens of Europe for 2000 years and wanted nothing but to be like everybody else.
For that, the Jews got persecuted and mass murdered.
The muslims do the exact opposite of all of this and are turned into victims.
Davegreybeard says
Within two years of Muhammad’s arrival, every Jew in Medina was exiled, a slave or murdered.
Jews had lived in Medina for generations prior to the advent of Islam. In the Jewish Qurayza tribe, every male who had reached puberty was beheaded, some 800 souls; the women and children enslaved.
The Jew hatred begins with Muhammad, at the very inception of Islam and continues to this day.
Some of the smartest people I know are some of the stupidest people I know.
But this Judekin is not just another overeducated asshole, he is actively malevolent.
Liam1304 says
Interesting reference to Derrida. He has produced at least one fine introduction to one of Bat Year’s books on the threat of Islam. He certainly seemed t have awakened to the threat near the end.
voegelinian says
Are you sure it was Derrida? I never heard that. I do know that another French philosopher, Jacques Ellul, wrote an introduction to a Bat Ye’or book.
Hokken says
It equates to saying “Are the Nazis the new Jews?” That’s insanity at its best.
duh_swami says
Pointy headed academics think to hard…
“those passages aren’t that important.”
If a Mahoundian said that, it would be automatic apostasy. It’s also blasphemy to say that Allah’s words are not important.
Angemon says
When someone uses an expression like “the enlightened few” and doesn’t do so in an ironic or sarcastic fashion, it comes out as a warning not to take whatever that person says seriously.
Don Vito says
Identity thieves at work, trying to steal the Jewish Identity
Mirren10 says
Excellent comments from all, about this malevolent tool.
For me, anyone who purports to be a historian, and then says “those passages aren’t that important”, loses all credibility immediately. What an idiot.
Gordon Miller says
The notion that Muslims are the “new Jews” is not just spurious, it is insulting to Jews, and more, it is nauseating to hear. To compare the two is an intellectually bankrupt concept and should not even be part of rational discourse in this country or elsewhere. The author, while protected by free speech, is a moron.
Rezali Mehil says
All,
Very interestingly Judaken thinking is just like mine…he is most observant.
I had alluded to the fact that Pamella’s is the new Jewess poisoner…all those years ago …a jewess poisoned Muhammad SAW …and he managed to survive for 3 years using imam oil to stave off the poison …but it eventually caught up.
Note the miracle of imam here…because his colleagues who also eat the poisoned leg of lamb died on the night…3 years later Muhammad was still alive (though in some considerable discomfort).
The Hadith does not say what happened to that Jewess …after her most disgusting act …but I cannot say that it would have been a bed of roses.
Now we see Pam’s agenda of attempting to poison the rest of the world against Islam…lighting litmus paper …one after the other…she is trying to finish us off …of course Pam needs to know that even that will take some time….if we have to suffer under her sleight of hand …we will do so with dignity of Islam ….in effect we will have become the new Jews.
Judaken is right.
More Later …
Rezali
Westman says
Rezali,
Why don’t you try becoming the New Muslims by declaring a new era free from hatred of the Jews, removing all such references from the Sunnah, ending punishment for Apostacy, and putting off conquering the world until the Mahdi returns?
Islam wants respect while telling the horrendous lie of, “no compulsion in Islam”.
Wilders is exactly correct, there are good Muslims who live a peaceful life by ignoring Muhammad’s bad example in the Sunnah. Yet, we see a new and old(ME chopping heads, stonings) fundamentalism enabled by the Sunnah that Judaken declares to be of no consequence. The presence of that barbarity in the Sunnah discredits Islam to a less than good status and opens the door to mayhem.
Without change, Islam is destined for endless war with Infidels, and itself. In one respect Judaken is right, Jews are being replaced as the Bogeyman in the minds of fleeing Islamic refugees – by fundamentalist Muslims.
Mirren10 says
rezali, you’re at it again, showing yourself up with your evil and vapid stupidity. Do try and absorb some logic !
”Very interestingly Judaken thinking is just like mine…he is most observant.”
Judaken is as stupid as you are, and just as malevolent. You think you’re ‘observant’, do you ?
”I had alluded to the fact that Pamella’s is the new Jewess poisoner…all those years ago …a jewess poisoned Muhammad SAW …and he managed to survive for 3 years using imam oil to stave off the poison …but it eventually caught up”
Since you’re so ‘observant’, dearie, do explain what ‘imam oil’ is, and what poison (which took three *years* to kill off putrid old mo ) it is an antidote to. I think the medical profession would be absolutely *fascinated*.
”The Hadith does not say what happened to that Jewess …after her most disgusting act …but I cannot say that it would have been a bed of roses.”
There you go again, gloating over torture, murder and mayhem. If the Jewish lady *did* poison your stinking ‘prophet’, she did it in defiance and revenge over the murder of her people, and her own rape. Go, Jewish lady !
”Now we see Pam’s agenda of attempting to poison the rest of the world against Islam…”
Come on, rezali old son; you know, as well as we all here do, that Pamela Geller doesn’t need to ‘poison the rest of the world against islam’, you all do an excellent job of that, yourselves. Pamela Geller merely draws attention to the vicious violence of your cult, and your co-religionists !
And Pamela doesn’t need to finish you off; you’ll do that for yourselves, because muslims always turn and rend each other, if there are no non-muslims handy. I just wish you’d all stop pussy footing around, and do a thorough job of it. if a things worth doing, it’s worth doing well, after all.
” … we will do so with dignity of Islam”
Any religion which believes the rapist of a nine year old child is a ‘prophet of god’, which believes a prayer is negated if a woman passes in front of the man praying, or someone farts, or any other of the myriad risible tenets you all hold, has *no* dignity whatsoever. 🙂
More later, chumbawumba !
Jay Airahs says
Why would Jonathan Judaken say such outrageous things?
WHY?
Why would Rezali Mehil agree?
WHY?
AHA!
Angemon says
Rezali Mehil posted:
“I had alluded to the fact that Pamella’s is the new Jewess poisoner…all those years ago …a jewess poisoned Muhammad SAW”
As I pointed out before, shiites believe that Aisha was the poisoner.
“Note the miracle of imam here…because his colleagues who also eat the poisoned leg of lamb died on the night…3 years later Muhammad was still alive (though in some considerable discomfort)”
The thing about the poisoning is, muhammad tasted the poisoned meat before a “divine revelation” told him it was poisoned. At least one of the people who died said that they too felt the taste of the poison but they kept eating because muhammad also kept eating.
Old pedo-mo wasn’t of much of a prophet, eh?
As foe the jewess, she said that she poisoned the meat because muhammad came and raped and killed her family and friends. I believe her words were “If he were a prophet then the poison wouldn’t harm him, if he was a conqueror then I’d rid the world of him”.
Hiramo says
“Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual can believe them.”
Orwell
ECAW says
Jews are the new Jews. Muslims are the new Nazis.
nacazo says
Christopher Hichens said:
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Reactions from even “moderate” Muslims to criticism are not uniformly reassuring. “Some of what people are saying in this mosque controversy is very similar to what German media was saying about Jews in the 1920s and 1930s,” Imam Abdullah Antepli, Muslim chaplain at Duke University, told the New York Times. Yes, we all recall the Jewish suicide bombers of that period, as we recall the Jewish yells for holy war, the Jewish demands for the veiling of women and the stoning of homosexuals, and the Jewish burning of newspapers that published cartoons they did not like. What is needed from the supporters of this very confident faith is more self-criticism and less self-pity and self-righteousness.
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Scott says
Spot On !!!
Rossbro says
Analogy? You mean stupidity ! Muslims have been the takers and killers, not the sufferers. What thehell kinda idiot wrote this crap ??
Isabella says
That question is an insult to the Jewish people.
Daring putting on the same level the victims the Jews have been with the Holocaust and now the aggressors that the Muslims are in a very large number does not make any sense!!!!
All of this coming from a PHD guy! Unreal, despicable, horrifying!!!
voegelinian says
The Derrida “Deconstructionism” used by the philodoxers of Academe is not a double-edged sword; i.e., it is not authentically a relativistic Equal Opportunity Nihilism. Rather, it is a one-sided absolutist blade, calculated for the self-immolation of irrational and morbid self-criticism: the theoretical destruction of the West and its sacrifice on the Altar of the Alter (the Other). With the arrival on our post-post-modern radar of Islam, the Mother of All Others, we have the perfect climax to this process, which to the minority of Leftist extremists among us logically can lead only to collective suicide (the Jonestown of the Marxist terrorist Jim Jones on a larger scale) or to mass conversion to Islam.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
It would be a better world if they just went ahead and shut down all Middle East Studies Departments. These operations have been a well healed source for well documented confusion for too long.