The West is very sick. The BBC thinks a preacher of violence and hatred is a hero on the level of Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela, and that people who fight for human rights and humane values, such as Pamela Geller and I, are bigots and hatemongers. The Church is in full appeasement/surrender mode, and the government and law enforcement authorities are in full denial mode. No one is standing up. Cowardice and appeasement not only rule the day, but are celebrated and hailed as prudence and wisdom. Those who dare to stand up anyway are vilified, smeared, marginalized and thrown under the bus. How do you think this picture is going to look in five more years? Ten?
“BBC under fire after Home Affairs Editor Mark Easton ‘compares extremist preacher Anjem Choudary to Gandhi and Mandela,’” by Steph Cockroft, MailOnline, May 14, 2015 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
The BBC is under fire after the Home Affairs Editor appeared to compare notorious hate preacher Anjem Choudary to Mahatma Gandhi and Nelson Mandela.
Following a lengthy report on last night’s BBC News at Ten about Choudary’s ‘radicalising force’, Mark Easton appeared to question whether there were similarities between Britain’s most famous extremist and two of history’s greatest civil rights campaigners.
Referring to Theresa May’s pledge to clamp down on extremism, the journalist said that Gandhi and Mandela had both been ‘extremists’ and that extreme views ‘are sometimes needed to challenge very establish values’.
But outraged viewers slammed the comparison as ‘disgusting’ while experts said the ‘ludicrous’ comments could give credence to Choudary’s ‘complete rejection’ of democracy and tolerance.
After a ‘special report’ which gave further airtime to Choudary and his radical views, Mr Easton said: ‘It’s one thing to ban someone for inciting hatred or violence, but quite another to pass a law that silences anyone who challenges established values.
‘I was in Parliament Square today – a statue of Gandhi looking down at me who was jailed for being extremist; Mandela who was jailed for being an extremist.
‘History tells us that extreme views are sometimes needed to challenge a very established values that people at the time hold so dear.’
Adam Deen, founder and executive director of The Deen Institute, a Muslim debating forum and think-tank, said the journalist was trying to make the point that dissenting views are essential in a democracy.
But he said that Choudary’s views ‘completely reject’ democracy and tolerance – the very values by which Gandhi and Mandela’s views were inspired.
Mr Deen said: ‘I think the journalist’s point is underpinned by the view that dissenting views are important for a democracy and that these voices can highlight areas where a society may have gone wrong.
‘But the error is that he is assuming that Anjem is arguing in the same way or dissenting in the same way as the likes of Mandela or Gandhi, both of whom were dissenting with a backdrop of views that the establishment already held.
‘Unlike Mandela and Gandhi, Choudary completely rejects those values of democracy and tolerance which makes the comparison completely false.
‘Anjem rejects democracy, is very non-Muslim and is very much anti-western. So to regard Anjem as a legitimate dissenting voice – and to open up this topic, saying that “maybe we’ve got it wrong to clamp down on his organisation” – is absurd.’
Anjem is “very non-Muslim”? Exactly who is “Mr. Deen” trying to kid?
Loretta Pienaar says
How many have sold their very souls to the devil??? Destroying civilisation. Destroying what honourable men fought and died for, destroying all hope for the future of their descendants!!! DEMENTED. “Leaders” such as CaMORON and Obummer are beyraying us and are sleeping with the devil that’s the ME and the muzrats. God be with us all. God be with honourable Christians, real believers, NOT any church, but God’s children – and God be with honourable Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, all who crave peace on earth and who have true goodwill in their hearts.
Bantheburka says
He is the most vile, disgusting piece of pig shit ever. How is he not in jail is mind boggling.
Anna says
So indeed comparable to Ghandi and the terrorist Mandela !
Ghandi was NOT the nice guy most believe. Far from it. And killed by a fellow Hindu to boot for betraying them to ….hey Muslims !
He was a disgusting immoral man too.few know about his many women. Sneaky and played taqiyya to GB
( maybe a covert Muslim ??)
Mandela may have changed after imprisinment but I remained sceptical about him and especially his millions !
Oliver says
Just curious-wasn’t Gandhi also supposed to have had sex with one of his daughters? I think I had read that someplace, years ago.
Curious
Edward Cline says
If any of you readers wish to read (or listen to) a detective novel set in San Francisco in 1930, then go to Amazon Books for a terrific novel that sends up Islam, black stones, and the whole shebang of these cretins. The print, Kindle, and audio editions sell very well, thank you. Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Stone-Detective-Novel-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00I97S8ZU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431713822&sr=1-1&keywords=the+black+stone+edward+cline
I guarantee you won’t look at Islam or Chow Down Choudary again in the same light. The Muzzies and their spokesmen haven’t discovered yet how blasphemous this novel is. That’s fine with me.
Byzantine Partisan says
This is our future…
Mirren10 says
”This is our future…”
It may be **yours**, in fact probably will be, since you are apparently supinely preparing to roll over and bare your neck to the scimitar.
But it won’t be **mine**, or thousands, probably millions, like me. I’ll die before I submit to this foul cult and its adherents.
Why come on here in order to drop depressing little turds ? If you can’t post something that inspires and uplifts, that acknowledges there *is* a resistance, and a very strong one, you’re really nothing more than a Lord HawHaw, or a Tokyo Rose. Bugger off.
duh_swami says
I’m with you…I have no intention of dying for any causes, but I do intend to win…Al-Sharpton was right, ‘resist we much’…He wasn’t talking about Islam, but it’s good advice just the same.
Alissa says
I was with you until you mentioned the name Al Sharpton.
Linde Barrera says
To Mirren10- Your 8:17AM post was right on! Here here! I, like you, will never be a Muslim. I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, and that makes me, in Christian explanation, both a “saint and a sinner”. Stay sharp Mirren10.
Paul says
You’re welcome, it’s a pleasure. However, I don’t expect a
reply from Rezali Mehil any time this century. She posts
her pathetic gibberish onto the site of a man who knows Islam
inside out, with the aim of deceiving people who follow his work.
Unfortunately for her, we’re able to read and listen to videos.
She’s completely insane!
Rezali Mehil says
Salaam Mirren,
Hit a bit of a nerve have we there? In all likelyhood it *is* going to be your future as well …and like time…there is no denying it.
The best way to to deny any anguish IMHO …is to join. When you see something capitulate…why be part of that …it doesn’t make any sense.
They said that the 19th century was for the UK…the 20th for the US and the 21st is for the Chinese. In reality scrub the Chinese bit …the 21 st century is the coming of Islam into the West and globally.
You will see the superior ME culture in your city, suburb, street and need that injection into your house too.
Get your hubby to put up a nice shelf, clean it and then put the Koran sharif (pure and clean) with reverence onto the shelf…and please refer to it when and if you need mental assistance. I realise that (unlike muslimas like me) kuffar women are very weak minded and need constant reassurance…that is why you *must* get that shelf up to build that sense of reverence as a 1st step.
At work /school insist on a multi-faith room (and get praying)…hope that helps
More Later…
Rezali
Angemon says
Rezali Mehil posted:
“The best way to to deny any anguish IMHO …is to join.”
Nah. That might have been the case when, for example, muslim ciuntries started emulating Western nations because, you know, Western culture is superior to muslim culture.
“You will see the superior ME culture in your city, suburb, street and need that injection into your house too.”
Right, muslims make such great neighbours!
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/sydney-jihadis-neighbors-he-prayed-loudly-to-allah-and-threw-garbage-into-their-yard
I had to admit, the bit about the “superior ME culture” made me chuckle, in the same way “honest used car salesperson” or “humble muslim” would.
“Get your hubby to put up a nice shelf, clean it and then put the Koran sharif (pure and clean) with reverence onto the shelf…”
I did that. In my bathroom. The mosques I know love to handout free qurans. It’s been years since I had to buy toilet paper. To be honest, it feels kinda like sandpaper but hey, it’s free.
“I realise that (unlike muslimas like me) kuffar women are very weak minded and need constant reassurance…”
This is coming from the person who talks about islamic domination of UK and the world so often she has to be trying to convince herself of it. Reza, sweetie, it’s Mirren you’re talking to, not “Mirror”. Not the same thing.
John Boston says
Rezali, try any of that Islamofascist stuff over here in the USA and- well, you see what happened to the two jihadis in Garland, TX. I will wear a Mohammed cartoon on my shirt before I give in to Islamofascists’ demands, or the collusion of State with them. Freedom thrives in the USA.
Paul says
Good to see you acknowledge your own inferiority to
male Muhammadans as a ‘muslima’ :
“They ask you about menstruation. Say: ‘It is an indisposition.
Keep aloof from women during their menstrual periods and do
not approach them until they are clean again; when they are
clean, have intercourse with them whence God enjoined you’”
Quran 2:222
“Men have authority over women because God has made the
one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth
to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their
unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from
whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them
in beds apart, and beat them.” Quran 4:34
“A male shall inherit twice as much as a female.” Quran 4:11
“Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men
cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge
fit to act as witnesses…” Quran 2:282
Know your place!
Linde Barrera says
To Rezali Mehil- Got your 12:27 pm post to Mirren10. While I give you kudos for attempting to be an invasive mohammedan commedian, I AIN’T BUYING Islam, girly. I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, who died a cruel and sadistic death on a cross to save our souls. He wasn’t switched with Judas Iscariot, like Muslims believe and want everyone else believe. So you and your ilk should pray to receive Jesus into your hearts. What are you afraid of?
Western Canadian says
Again, we should all thank this muslim troll (the female equiv. is actually ‘trollop’, but if she is a truly devout muslim…… UGLY with a vengeance, inside and out!) for coming by and giving such an outstanding demonstration of just how dim witted and dishonest a truly devout muslim is….. Speaking as someone who has had 3 translations of the vicious hate and murder manual called the koran…. by all means, everyone should have a copy, and actually read the vile and criminal thing…. When that happens, it will be the death of islam (RTC), as everyone would be aware of how filthy and degenerate it is….. which is also an excellent description of the middle eastern countries that are cured by being under the influence of this sick and filthy rag, with the following results: abuse and/or rape of women, almost universal – least literate, least educated populations on earth – genetic impairment and illness due to inbreeding is rampant – standards of living for the masses so low, that they are closer to gutters than any other culture on earth – drug and alcohol use rampant, due to vile lives forced on populations by islam – population centers so destitute, that they wouldn’t even rate as slums in the west – lack of social cohesion, everyone hating everyone else (especially hating non-muslims) – shorter life spans due to lack of hygiene and nothing resembling medical care – the list is endless.
Anyone who pretends that islam produces anything other than spiritual and physical poverty, ignorance, violence, hatred, slavery, abuse of women, abuse of children etc, is beyond reason and beneath contempt. And thank you for coming by and posting your sick drivel, and proving it.
Linde Barrera says
To Western Canadian- Your 1:25 pm comment was awesome! Thank you from my heart for your truthful eloquence to Rezal Mehil.
Paul says
Miss Taqiyya, can you answer some questions?
1) How is it that ‘almighty’ Allah only understands Arabic?
Surely, that means that bilingual people are twice
as almighty. Would you pray to them?
2) Why do you worship a black stone? Oh, you don’t?
Well, why do you bow to it every day when you pray?
Isn’t that idolatry, which you accuse the Jews and
Christians of?
3) The Koran says that the sun sets in a muddy spring
(Surah 18:86 – as you know). How could your so-called
creator make such a mistake?
4) You reject the idea that Jesus Christ died for our sins, yet
someone who dies in the cause of Jihad is supposed to
intercede for up to 70 family members. So, one’s
possible whereas the other isn’t, and you claim
intercession is not possible?! No wonder they don’t like
it when Muslims ask questions!
Linde Barrera says
To Paul- Thank you for your superb District Attorney – type questions and conclusions to Rezali Mehil. I am so glad I read the posts on this site. I am learning lots.
Edward Cline says
If any of you readers wish to read (or listen to) a detective novel set in San Francisco in 1930, then go to Amazon Books for a terrific novel that sends up Islam, black stones, and the whole shebang of these cretins. The print, Kindle, and audio editions sell very well, thank you. Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Stone-Detective-Novel-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00I97S8ZU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431713822&sr=1-1&keywords=the+black+stone+edward+cline
I guarantee you won’t look at Islam or Chow Down Choudary again in the same light. The Muzzies and their spokesmen haven’t discovered yet how blasphemous this novel is. That’s fine with me.
Linde Barrera says
To Edward Cline- Thank you for the book tip. I will check it out.
Edward Cline says
You’re very welcome. I know you won’t be disappointed.
Western Canadian says
That should be ‘cursed’, not ‘cured’…. the only thing that islam (RTC) could be considered a ‘cure’ for would be freedom, education, and the worst offence of all against islam : the ability to love.
Mirren10 says
rezali, rezali, rezali !
How many times have I told you you need to go back to dawa school, because you’re so abysmally bad at it ? I bet you got an F.
The siren drone of ‘resistance is futile, resistance is futile’ doesn’t impress me, or anyone else. You’re like your vicious, albeit thick, co-religionists the IS, who think by producing a stupid video threatening the internet, that is going to make us run for the hills. Not going to happen, dearie.
”The best way to to deny any anguish IMHO …is to join. When you see something capitulate…why be part of that …it doesn’t make any sense.”
Well, of course it doesn’t make any sense to *you*, you’re a brain dead mohammedan!
And there’s no ‘anguish’ involved; just righteous anger and a determination never to bow my neck to scumbags like you and your co-religionists.
”You will see the superior ME culture in your city, suburb, street and need that injection into your house too.”
Oh, please ! Superior ? Yes, I’m sure you think a ‘culture’ ( don’t be mealy mouthed, old son, what you actually mean is *religion* and culture) that slices off the clitorises of little girls, chops the hands off people, beheads and flogs them, thinks drinking camel urine is a cure for AIDS, murders foolish aid workers handing out polio vaccines because it thinks the vaccine contains pork gelatine … well, I could go on and on, ad nauseam, but I think you catch my drift.
By the way, rez, your always telling us you’re a female paki living in the UK; if the ME ‘culture’ is so superior, why aren’t you over there, lapping it up ?
But of course, you know, and *I* know, you’re a fraud; a shiite shit male mohammedan living in pakiland, who hasn’t got the balls to hop over to Syria and help out your bro’s.
Well, we both know why, don’t we ? If you don’t take the wifies with you, they might get up to hanky panky while you’re away … oh, all those pointing fingers and whispers coming from the community ! The shame of it all ! Only a nice juicy ‘honour murder’ will fix it, right ? And if you took them with you ? Some of those murderers are **white**, you realise. And we all know how you feel about ‘white penis’.
”Get your hubby to put up a nice shelf, clean it and then put the Koran sharif (pure and clean) with reverence onto the shelf…”
Angemon’s got the right idea on *that* point. Although I must admit I prefer Andrex. Your unholy koran comes in damn handy for the bottom of the kitty litter tray, though !
” … and please refer to it when and if you need mental assistance.”
Actually, I refer to it frequently, when telling others what repulsive and evil shiite is in it, and suggesting they read it for themselves. I’ve been having **lots** of success, lately; the activities of your murderous co-religionists are hard to ignore, and when I point out the verses that sanction their activities, more than a few lightbulbs have gone on !
” I realise that (unlike muslimas like me) kuffar women are very weak minded and need constant reassurance…that is why you *must* get that shelf up to build that sense of reverence as a 1st step”
You know, rezali, you’ve got a terrible memory. It’s all that rocking and swaying, and banging your head on the floor. Can’t be good for the old brainpan.
Unless ‘muslimas’ smoke cigars, no way you’re one. Plus, you’ve already admitted you’re actually a man (I use the term loosely) living in pakicrapistan. Why bother to keep up the pretence ?
”At work /school insist on a multi-faith room (and get praying)…hope that helps”
Luckily, I’m now retired, so that gives me **lots** more time to spread the message about your evil cult, the putrescent paedophile mohammed, the vile sharia, etc etc. Hope that helps !
More later, chumbawumba ! 🙂
TediNeo98 says
@ Rezali Mehil – You know what I find hilarious…you speak like you are just going to simply walk into various countries and have your way. Well although there are 1.5 billion muslims worldwide, you clearly forget that there are another 4.5 billion people of different faiths, cultures and beliefs – so much self importance is arrogance.
You will not have everything your way – many will die for freedom, but freedom will prevail. When last has islam contributed anything meaningful to society except through threats, death and violence. You even have to threaten your own people with death should they decide to leave islam. Can you not take a step back for a moment and consider that there is something very wrong with that. There’s nothing peaceful about islam. Buddhists use mindfulness to heal inner turmoil and they’re thinking of using this as treatment for stress and depression on the NHS. WHEN LAST HAS ISLAM CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING MEANINGFUL TO THE GREATER GOOD OF SOCIETY? You are pathetic and as much as you and choudry live by your violence, rest assured, you WILL die by that very same violence. Ever heard of Karma?
TediNeo98 says
@Mirren10 – I am standing with you & I have to agree, as I quote verses from the quran and the hadiths that show why muslims behave the way they do – the lightbulb definitely goes on in peoples eyes. The Jew hatred, Mysogeny, violence & intolerance – I cannot tell you how much I hate islam.
Kenny says
I don’t know why people get so bothered about ‘Andy’ Choudhary getting lots of TV airtime, it’s great! Every time he’s in front of a camera spouting his verbal diarrhoea people can see just what a twat he is and what a warped and vile ideology he represents. After all, he really is a Muslim holding true to his and his ideologies standards and principles.
Don McKellar says
Pieces of Islamic garbage like Choudhary really do put out a face for the mass media audience to see what Islam is, at its very core, really all about. It gives them something to easily understand. In the face of a smoke screen of denial and smoke and mirrors from the UK’s Cameron and all the rest, Choudhary is a bucket of cold water thrown on their hot sweaty bullshit.
particolor says
Has anyone else noticed how Extremely Hansom those Wart Hogs are ? 🙂
duh_swami says
Hannity gives Anjem air time, and then interrupts him a lot.
I know it’s Hannity’s show and it’s mostly about him, but he should just butt out for a few and let Anjam ramble a while…he’s really good at explaining Islam…
Xero_G says
All too often on Hannity, just when Choudary is about to hang himself with some outrageous statement (that is perfectly consistent with Islamic tradition), Hannity will interrupt and/or talk over the damning statement. Rarely does Hannity followup with effective questions either, content to simply name call (“evil bastard”) or quickly move on to the next segment. I’d love to see an entire hour devoted to letting Choudary spew his Sharia-love with minimal interruptions – that would be CAIR’s biggest fear – “Islam unrestrained”
Westman says
The BBC is losing any credibility as an honest source. Choudary supports the Quranic and Sunnah motivations behind ISIS, including death for apostacy.
What an insult to Gandhi and Mandela.
Linde Barrera says
I have just 2 questions for BBC Home Affairs Editor Mark Easton: ” How did you get your job?” and “Are you stupid?”
Georg says
I think one question answers the other. I always thought this guy seemed to have a not-so-well-concealed penchant for Islamic supremacism, nice to see he’s finally tipped his hand.
Very nice, BBC, you must proud. Also nice to see he got on in the boardrooms there for so long, one can just imagine…
No Fear says
Anjem Choudhary is the best living anti-Islam advert that we have in Western countries.
Let him speak for as long as possible,,,,,,
Edward Cline says
If any of you readers wish to read (or listen to) a detective novel set in San Francisco in 1930, then go to Amazon Books for a terrific novel that sends up Islam, black stones, and the whole shebang of these cretins. The print, Kindle, and audio editions sell very well, thank you. Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Stone-Detective-Novel-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00I97S8ZU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431713822&sr=1-1&keywords=the+black+stone+edward+cline
I guarantee you won’t look at Islam or Chow Down Choudary again in the same light. The Muzzies and their spokesmen haven’t discovered yet how blasphemous this novel is. That’s fine with me.
Tequila Not Taqiyya says
Choudary already thinks he is Mohammed, now he can add Gandhi and Mandella to that list. You couldn’t do worse to embolden the enemy. They think (perhaps correctly) there is a large contingent of us who agree with them. Like this idiot “reporter”. These hyper-liberals are intent upon destruction of the west with their multiculturalism first and human-rights last. Stupid is as stupid does, and this is stupid. But alas the guy said it to show how brilliant he is. Bravo moron.
Dave J says
When someone raises their finger at me, shakes it, and proceeds to tell me everything I should or should not be doing, on pain of their personal attack, I am ROYALLY OFFENDED. In fact it makes me want to kill them back, only preemptively.
Should I dial 911?
Or go to the library and read some of the many honest critiques of this bizarre “religion”.
Write a lot of letters to the editor?
Start wearing a burka and go deep “undercover”?
Start a new trend of graffiti and car wraps featuring psychedelic Mo art?
Strap myself with explosives and visit a mosque?
Start a new competing religion that only allows pork and dog as main entrees, endorses copious drinking and whose members fall to their knees ten times a day in the opposite direction of mecca?
Inquiring minds want to know – how best to deal with this prehistoric mental disease?
jasnan says
Hi,
The point you should know is that anjem chaudhary and his followers want to impose sharia law. If you do not know what is sharia law……….i will try to list some
.1. If you criticize islam u can be killed.
2. The punishment for theft is cutting of hands.
3. Adultery is punishable by death, through stoning.
4. Christians and non-believers of islam should behave as secondary citizen and pay additional taxes.
5. Religion will run politics.
6. Any one who questions the existence of allah or his rules can be punished to death.
Now you think what should u do…….
4.
Linde Barrera says
To Dave J- Your suggestions are hilarious. Any chance you will email SNL for possible future skits?
Edward Cline says
Hi, Inquiring Minds:
If any of you readers wish to read (or listen to) a detective novel set in San Francisco in 1930, then go to Amazon Books for a terrific novel that sends up Islam, black stones, and the whole shebang of these cretins. The print, Kindle, and audio editions sell very well, thank you. Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Stone-Detective-Novel-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00I97S8ZU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431713822&sr=1-1&keywords=the+black+stone+edward+cline
I guarantee you won’t look at Islam or Chow Down Choudary again in the same light. The Muzzies and their spokesmen haven’t discovered yet how blasphemous this novel is. That’s fine with me.
Scott M says
Choudary is not Gandhi’s or Mandela’s asshole. He is a vile, hate-filled lunatic troublemaker.
Tommo says
Easton was right in one respect, Choudray is like the ANC terrorist Nelson Mandela who was responsible for the armed action in South Africa and for killing many black and white people. But Choudray’s days are numbered following a recent hate fest in Belgium. Security services say the numbers of Muslims under scrutiny is the largest ever and under new legislation a major clamp down is expected.
Volumetric says
That explains why Obama is staying at home I guess. No more European holidays for the Obamae.
Marty says
The BBC loves Islam to such an extent that its Head of Religious Broadcasting is a mohammedan.
To understand the BBC mindset you have to take a long view.
It was very right wing/patriotic after the War and had a total monopoly on all forms of broadcasting.
It still longs for a near monopoly and can outspend its rivals since it is funded by an unfair and deeply regressive tax.
By the 1970s, being radical left was not just chic, but normal for all younger UK citizens, thanks to Gramsci’s disciples in education and law.
Whatever the alleged left champion, the BBC champions.
Eg when the left decided that Jew hating was fashionable, the BBC went all out to support the Near Eastern mohammedan states and have still refused to publish the Balen Report which, apparently exposed it’s hatred of Israel (at taxpayers’ expense).
Today, the BBC openly supports Labour, taking as mainstream any lie pumped out by the Left.
Eg the non existent “bedroom tax”, “our children are starving” etc
All BBC jobs go to members of the Leftist Groupthink Tendency, and since Labour is pro islam, and will always be, the BBC is pro islam.
In the UK. muslims are isolated, by choice, from the British of other backgrounds, and are easily moved to threats of violence and actual violence.
Since Mohammed is now the most popular boy’s name and the UK permits abortions of females,
Labour knows that in the long run, it, and the BBC are on to a winner.
The UK is on the way to national extinction, and the Conservative Government just might be able to turn the ship of state, if not around, certainly a bit to the right.
particolor says
Sounds like the BBC is Charging You Halal Extortion Tax ? Our ABC did away with that Years and Years ago !!
🙂 Cant they stand on their own two feet and Play Fair like all other Broadcasters have to ?
Tony says
It’s a jizzah in all but name , in the UK you can’t legally watch any live tv (from any source ) without first paying the bbc .
particolor says
Stuff that !! 🙁 I’m staying here in Ozzy ! 🙂
Linde Barrera says
To Marty- I sense the sadness in your post. What can law abiding, tax paying, Christian British citizens do to be better represented? It appears to me from what JW posters from Britain write, that there are no more parameters or boundaries as to how far the invasiveness of Islam can go. Can Christian churches make any appeals to the Queen? (Forgive my ignorance.)
marty says
I appreciate your comments.
Although I am a secularist, I have great respect for our Judeo Christian heritage, and I know that Christianity is one of the traditions that helps socialise young black Britons, too many of whom revert to savagery or islam, even if from decent homes.
We have had massive levels of immigration from the Third World into England, especially London and surroundings and old Northern cities that are no longer prosperous.
I get out a lot and have no problem with non white Britons.
However, the Left have forced us to accept multiculturalism, and the worst sort of immigrants live in ghettoes where they are above the law.
You won’t believe this, but it’s 100% true.
The UK government has abolished all tax benefits for married couples, a longstanding feature of our tax system.
Mohammedans with up to four wives, if married in a muslim country, can claim benefits for them all as dependents, and at least 2,000 men have installed several wives each in their own social housing unit payed for by us.
We also pay benefits for unlimited numbers of kids.
Just small aspects of our national suicide.
Linde Barrera says
To marty- Thank you for your quick response! I confess I don’t understand what you wrote, so explain further please. If the UK did away with tax benefits for married couples, then how could a Muslim man with 4 wives or any man with 1 wife, get benefits based on the taking away of tax benefits for married couples? Also, if these people get welfare, (in the US, welfare is not considered income, because income is money that is earned) how can they be given tax credits? I thought tax credits were given for earned income! Thank you in advance for explaining to me from “across the pond”!
Marty says
Hi Linde Barrera.
The UK is very much driven by disguised welfare benefits, each one of which is separate, and many of which I don’t understand.
I’m now late 60s and have worked all my life.
Until a few years ago married couple got tax allowance, presumably based on the perceived advantages to the state of marriage.
In the name of equality, and saving money, these tax advantages have been phased out by both major parties.
UK Welfare was controversial from the start, but was originally applied to a cohesive population with similar values.
Since we got mixed up with “human rights” and mass immigration, muslims have been appearing to the tune of abut 5 million.
If a muslim man with a right to live here,(eg official asylum seeker, or born here) goes to a muslim land such as Pakistan or Bangla Desh (where most UK muslims come from) he can marry four wives and bring them back to the UK as one wife and three dependants.
The three junior wives, or even all four, can then demand accommodation and other benefits from the UK taxpayer. About three years ago there were two thousand such “marriages”
Edward Cline says
If any of you readers wish to read (or listen to) a detective novel set in San Francisco in 1930, then go to Amazon Books for a terrific novel that sends up Islam, black stones, and the whole shebang of these cretins. The print, Kindle, and audio editions sell very well, thank you. Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Stone-Detective-Novel-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00I97S8ZU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431713822&sr=1-1&keywords=the+black+stone+edward+cline
I guarantee you won’t look at Islam or Chow Down Choudary again in the same light. The Muzzies and their spokesmen haven’t discovered yet how blasphemous this novel is. That’s fine with me.
Edward Cline says
“…a Muslim debating forum and think-tank….” Aren’t these contradictions in terms? Oxymorons? Muslims don’t “debate” anything. Islam doesn’t encourage thought.
particolor says
Unless their War Lords are Plotting their Next Move on the Infidel !!
Edward Cline says
That’s my point. There you go.
GB says
Meanwhile France introduces education reform in which it will be compulsory for students to learn about islamic civilization, while module on history of European Middle Ages will only be optional. Of course it looks that islamic civilization has more to do with French culture than Medieval Europe has.
http://www.english.rfi.fr/france/20150514-french-president-tells-ministers-support-controversial-education-reform
The former French president Nicolas Sarkozy after he had criticised the reform, has been accused of racism (French minister of education is a muslim of maroccan origin).
http://www.france24.com/en/20150513-france-sarkozy-accused-racially-charged-rhetoric-ministers-taubira-vallaud-belkacem
Marty says
I’m afraid France is further down the line of mohammedan colonisation than the UK in purely numerical terms.
That it is a secular state that has banned the burka suggests that the constitution might be more effective in stopping its defeat than politicians.
In the UK we don’t merely allow the Saudis and their like to set up schools to produce Western hating misfits.
We have state subsidised mohammedan schools, and even the Church of England has schools which are 90% mohamedan and have head teachers who have converted from Christianity to Islam, while still taking their salaries from Church donations..
particolor says
Jizra in Action !!
Paul says
I’m sure Easton was absolutely sincere with his comparison. Since
Choudary is an anti-democratic, anti-Western, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish,
anti-human rights (pro Sharia) and psychopathically misogynistic fascist,
what on earth is there about him that a creepy ‘progressive’ leftist wouldn’t
love?
particolor says
A Freeing of His Wind in a closed meeting !!:-)
TediNeo98 says
😉 That made me smile….
Gart says
‘I was in Parliament Square today – a statue of Gandhi looking down at me who was jailed for being extremist; Mandela who was jailed for being an extremist.
‘History tells us that extreme views are sometimes needed to challenge a very established values that people at the time hold so dear.’
Are not the methods to defeat Anjem a challenge to any established democratic value, are not extreme views and actions required? Call me insane, but that could be what he’s saying.
particolor says
If You really want to Boil It Down, Isn’t what He said a “HATE Speech ??” Lets get OFFENDED and put a Fat Waa on Him !! ! .. 🙂
Alissa says
I love the way you think!
Angemon says
Gad to hear the BBC is facing blowback. Likening someone who calls for violence in order to have the majority of the people in a nation, if not the whole world, subjugated under the iron fist of a minority who would deny them basic rights to Ghandi or Mandela, who called for peaceful resistance against a minority of oppressors who imposed their will on the majority of people is preposterous. They’re exact opposites, and Mark Easton should at the very least apologize for slandering those two brave men by comparing them to someone who is the embodiment of everything they fought against.
And if Mark Easton actually believes what he’s saying, oh boy. No amount of blows to the head can possibly cure him.
Nonsense. Sheer nonsense. Established views don’t change because of someone rambling an “extreme view”. They change because the majority of people at a specific point in time think to themselves “you know, we used to to this in this fashion years ago. However, we now know more, and we can do things in this other way, which happens to have more benefits”. If the majority of the people don’t disagree with the established views then you’re not going to change anything, you’re just going to be the dick who wants to ruin everyone else’s fun.
Changing for the sake of changing is a very bad idea. Maybe Mark Eston would also like to speak in behalf of, for example, NAMBLA. They also have “extreme views” that “challenge established values that people hold dear”.
Angemon says
Also, where I say “They change because the majority of people at a specific point in time think to themselves “you know, we used to to this in this fashion years ago. However, we now know more, and we can do things in this other way, which happens to have more benefits”
Not sure why, but the rest of that paragraph disappeared. It was:
That, or because the values of a society deem something to be immoral or unethical. Like slavery. If most people at the time had no problems with the concept of owning another human being – even though from a financial point of view owning slaves made sense because, well, free labour – then the people clamoring to put an end to slavery would just have been laughed into oblivion.
Les says
Why is this thug mafia pig not in jail? He calls for the killing of people and on Hannity ordered the death of Pamela. He should be taken to jail and rot there for the rest of his muslime life.
Dan says
You know.
I’ve never been a fan of Mandela. A communist/socialist, he was imprisoned after committing over 20 acts of sabotage, (It wasn’t called terrorism then) and when he was caught by the police with his fellow conspirators they were in possession of 48,000 Soviet-made anti-personnel mines and 210,000 hand grenades.
During his incarceration, he refused to renounce violence, even when he was offered parole if he would do so.
Now, when first reading this some twenty years ago, I was young and stupid, and figured like most, that this was most likely just white South African bunk but, then his wife, Winnie Mandela, began making the news for her actions while he was in prison, one of which was, she and her gang of ANC thugs would deal with opponents by pinning their arms inside a gas soaked tire and setting it on fire.
Believe it or not, Canadian news broadcast that when it happened, and I couldn’t help wondering what kind of a person would marry such a woman.
After several years of off and on research, I think I can say, “Yes. Choudary is a lot like the Mandelas.”
As for Ghandi, he was a man of peaceful resistance, and as far as I know, still is. Or is it “Was?”.
In any case, I spent several years sailing the world, and about three months in India. The place is insanely corrupt, one of the most racist countries I know, and and the Ghandi family is one of the richest and most powerful. I have never looked into how they acquired their wealth, so it COULD have been legitimately, but India is one of the few places I have no desire to return to, even after I’d spent nearly a year in the Honduras while Zelaya got the boot and he and Hugo Chavez turned it into the murder capitol of the world.
somehistory says
One can find this on the internet: Ghandi said the Jews should give their necks to hitler’s henchmen. (In his own words, of course, not what I have written.)
Not having personal knowledge of it, but reading other places where he was quoted as saying some not go great things.
Edward Cline says
If any of you readers wish to read (or listen to) a detective novel set in San Francisco in 1930, then go to Amazon Books for a terrific novel that sends up Islam, black stones, and the whole shebang of these cretins. The print, Kindle, and audio editions sell very well, thank you. Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Stone-Detective-Novel-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00I97S8ZU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431713822&sr=1-1&keywords=the+black+stone+edward+cline
I guarantee you won’t look at Islam or Chow Down Choudary again in the same light. The Muzzies and their spokesmen haven’t discovered yet how blasphemous this novel is. That’s fine with me.
I never bought the Gandhi is a Good Guy line, nor the Mandela is a Magnificent Specimen line, either. Gandhi was a diaper-clad wuss and an Anglophobe, and Mandela and his wife hateful racists.
Mirren10 says
I’m not at all surprised an idiot like Easton would write this poisonous rubbish. He’s a typical Islington leftist luvvie, who pontificates from the safe haven he lives in, and where nary a burkha, or a pyjama clad, beard wearing mohammaden , or a halal slaughter house, is to be seen.
He lives in a fog of unreality, lies, obfuscation and denial, like all his ilk.
As for his comparisons, I note he doesn’t mention Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller; two freedom fighters who have never uttered a word in favour of violence and bloodshed against anyone, but were nevertheless denied entry to the UK, by may, because it wouldn’t have been ‘conducive to the public good.’
And then may immediately let in a murderous sheik. Why doesn’t Easton point *this* out ? Because he’s a gutless wanker.
I’ve never subscribed to the spurious glorification of either Ghandi or Mandela. In my opinion, Gandhi was a hypocritical piece of crap, who treated his wife and children abysmally, kowtowed to islam, and knew damn well he was perfectly safe in defying the Raj with ‘non-violence’, because the British wouldn’t have simply arrested him and hanged him, as would have been the case if he’d tried it on in Russia, or China, et al. This is the cretin who advised the Jews to roll over and let the Nazis murder them. But he was **never** in that position himself.
As for Mandela, he was a vicious racist, who hated white people, and advocated murder and necklacing of his opponents. Which his equally vicious wife, Winnie, happily carried out. I was utterly nauseated over the ridiculous hyperbole over this wretch’s death and funeral.
People are, many of them, such fools, they prefer to believe in pretty legends, instead of provable facts. And those who are perfectly aware of the facts, prefer to go along with the falsity. God knows why. Do we need heroes so badly we’re prepared to elevate the unworthy in order to get them ?
I am so thankful I haven’t paid for a TV licence for **years**. I’d rather go to jail than help feed the utterly compromised and traitorous bbc.
Alissa says
Mirren…..Excellent comment!
Marty says
Great post.
I disagree on just one point.
Mandela went in to prison a communist terrorist, and came out without vengeance towards whites.
However, his vile wife and the ANC continued their murderous campaigns against blacks who did not support them.
particolor says
Good Read Mirren !!
celtic warriarcanada says
I have a question for all the OLD SCHOOL IRA MEMBERS : Why is this PILE OF PIG BILE STILL ALIVE ? Is he any less a threat to your country than you thought the British were . While the British Government cowers, You should be showing your power .I’m willing to pledge $1000 dollars FOR THE HEAD OF THIS,CROSS DRESSER WITH A BEARD . ANY ONE OUT THEIR WANT TO MATCH MY PLEDGE ???
Edward Cline says
I read on a Jihad Watch column how Ireland is being invaded (by government invitation) and within a generation will no longer be Emerald Isle “green” but ISIS/Islamic “green.”
If any of you readers wish to read (or listen to) a detective novel set in San Francisco in 1930, then go to Amazon Books for a terrific novel that sends up Islam, black stones, and the whole shebang of these cretins. The print, Kindle, and audio editions sell very well, thank you. Go here: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Stone-Detective-Novel-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00I97S8ZU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431713822&sr=1-1&keywords=the+black+stone+edward+cline
I guarantee you won’t look at Islam or Chow Down Choudary again in the same light. The Muzzies and their spokesmen haven’t discovered yet how blasphemous this novel is. That’s fine with me.
Volumetric says
The UK newspaper, The Independent, has just compared Choudary to a socialist standing outside a railway station calling for the downfall of Capitalism. Poor choice of imagery. These guys don’t stand outside selling Workers of The World magazines -they are happy to push their mules down the escalator to the platform with a fully loaded suicide vest. That is the difference. You would think the jounalist had never heard of Drummer Rigby or the bombing of the London railway station. Could he be that ignorant? Seems so -a post modernist clown, a relativist gone stark raving mad, giggling away about empathy while a live grenade is tossed at him. Oh, good catch Old Boy. Clown.
Edward says
“The BBC is under fire after the Home Affairs Editor (Mark Easton) compare notorious hate preacher Anjem Choudary to Mahatma Gandhi and Nelson Mandela.”
BBC is a liberal leaning media and there’s where it lies…..lying (which the liberal’s are best known for)….for the sake of coercing our brain cognizant abilities to accept their concocted lies!
There’s a world of difference between Choudary and the somewhat the pacifists/mediators that Gandhi and Mandela were. Choudary plays the part of a mob godfather of the islamists. It is very telling simply by looking at his body language…..the muslim’s sign of authority supposedly …the raised index finger! Choudary’s command sign to rid any antagonistic sources against islam…..he points his finger down to suggest Jihadi intervention. Gandhi or Mandela were never known to send out their aids to take care of any enemy. At least not to mass murder their nemesis!
Edward Cline says
BBC’s Mark Easton “compares extremist preacher Anjem Choudary to Gandhi and Mandela…” I think Easton is either anti-British or completely ignorant of history. Gandhi counseled the British and the Jews to simply surrender to the tender mercies of the Nazis and the Japanese, and Mandela was a racist and a terrorist who’d just as soon have seen the whites wiped out. Of course, we all know what the Nazis did to the Jews, but has Easton the foggiest idea of what the Japanese did to British prisoners after the surrenders of Hong Kong and Singapore? British and Chinese nurses were repeatedly raped on the bodies of British sick after the Japanese had bayoneted them, male British soldiers and civilians were executed via beheading. That was for starters. This also happened to Americans on the Bataan Death March. The Japanese then were as savage as ISIS is now. Choudary is ISIS’s mouthpiece, living the high life on British welfare, yet the government coddles him for fear of charges of “racism” and “bigotry.”
TH says
The only thing that can be said for Chaudary is that he is honest. He makes no secret of the fact that his goal is to submit the rest of us to Sharia. The same cannot be sadi for M:r. Deen and his ilk.
epistemology says
The BBC is a nutcase, anybody knows a good shrink in the U.K.? Andy isn’t only an extremist, he wants to impose a perverted law in the U.K. the sharia and he incites his followers to kill other people. He’s a monster, as simple as that.
Nut job says
The more Choudhary speaks the more we learn about radical islams plans for the UK and the world. Although it will take an enormous effort for the lefties to see it.
Don’t ever stop this man from speaking, as he speaks the truth.
John Boston says
Of course the comparison of Choudary to Gandhi or Mandela is criminally absurd. But I agree we should let him spew his venom for all to hear, because he is a true disciple of Mohammed.
Mary Lougher says
Choudary says “you will do this or else” But look at the allowances he makes for himself Go to Imgur Album search Anjem Choudary “Party Animal” Just look at this maniacal hypocrite.
thelmalou says
If Choudhary were to find himself in a prison cell with Mandela and Gandhi, he would have killed them. Any comparison is absurd.
Paul says
Choudary like Gandhi and Mandela? Cultural relativism at it’s very finest. Where does the BBC find these guys?
Sam says
The West is just “dying” to hasten it’s demise by refusing to study and understand Islam.
I have to give it to Moslem leaders. They have done a great job of hiding the truth about this stupid cult which has no logical basis for any good to humanity. They hid it from the infidels and the majority of Moslems for centuries. Before it was by force, now they are using our oil money to brainwash infidels including the idiot Pope. We are in real danger losing the freedom we have. Largely, thanks to lazy liberal sickos all over the world.
Final note: I like Anjem Choudary. He is the enemy but he is honest about Islam and his intentions for us infidels. I prefer him to our idiot liberals anytime as I know how to fight him. To fight liberals? you tell me…..
TediNeo98 says
indeed…how to fight liberals…
John Boston says
How to combat liberals. Well, first of all, some of them are our friends. I think of Bill Maher, who self-describes as a “9/11 liberal”. That is, he sees the threat of Islamization. With that said, the best way to combat liberals is with FACTS. Liberalism thrives on feelings and sound-bites. It doesn’t fare well in reasoned discourse. So the best way to attack it is to refute it with the truth. This requires research, but it is worth the effort.
By the way, I agree that Anjem Choudary is preferable to lying Islamic apologists. As I said elsewhere, he speaks the (awful) truth about Islam, being a true disciple of Mohammed. I wonder how many true disciples like him there are in the world…
JAMES MC CORMACK says
A totally insane comparison. BBC is around the bend . This same ilk of reporters probably endorsed Chamberlains ” peace in our time” , just before Poland was invaded.
joeblough says
Well, it turns out that Gandhi and Mandela weren’t such benign and spotlessly innocent little lambs either. Each in his own way was the harbinger and midwife of MORE BAD NEWS.
Gandhi brought on Indian socialism which has crippled India ever since and condemned millions to unending poverty — right in the midst of expanding opportunity! And his intransigent passivism in the face of Islamic supremacism bolstered it and prepared the way for today’s ongoing crisis.
Mandela, in turn, prepared the way from apartheid (which was not white supremacism as such) to black supremacism and yet more suffocating and crippling socialism. Basically degrading and, who knows, maybe eventually destroying a pretty decent country.
So I will admit that Choudary may be the most repugnant specimen of the three, and clearly the most openly bellicose, He’s in pretty good company there.
Just not in the way that BBC means.
Although, considering how evil the BBC is, maybe that IS what they mean.
Oliver says
Wasn’t Mandela ( and also his wife Winnie Mandela) also anti- Semitic and supporters of Arafat and the PLO?
I kind of remember that, along with his black supremacy, which has turned SA from a first world nation into a third world-from what I have heard. (I met with a clergyman form there about a year ago-he said that the situation there, for whites, was not that great, and those with money were shipping it–and their children–out).
Truth Seeker says
Really it is very Serious that BBC acts as puppet of Jihadis. This shows the extent of Infiltration of Islamic Trojan Horses in BBC too. Citizens of Britain has to be serious about this otherwise BBC may start Broadcasting/Telecasting Taqiyaah in Support of Jihadis
Mirren10 says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvr6X054xLY
I will transpose ”Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Hitler.” To, ”Who do you think you are kidding Mr Choudhary”.
Many people in the past have assumed that ”old England is done”, and have had to eat their words. And so it will be now. NFSE.
SuchindranathAiyerS says
Gandhi invited violence against Hindus, Mandela backed violence against others while suffering violence against himself, Anjem propagates constructing the empire of violence through Islam. BBC would not know.
Kepha says
Comparing Chowderhead to Mandela and Gandhi? Not so preposterous.
Everyone ought to read _The Gandhi Nobody Knows_ by Richard Grenier. It was a great send-up of the movie made by Attenborough.
As for Mandela, he was far from the saint our media made him out to be. His followers routinely necklaced people, while the South Africa he left behind may no longer have Apartheid, but it remains dysfunctional on many levels. He probably felt cheated that the Soviet Union and East Germany–two states that might’ve helped him deal with his opposition the way he probably would’ve really liked–collapsed just as he was getting out of prison.
John Boston says
What is “necklacing”?
TediNeo98 says
Placing a car tyre or any tyre for that matter that will fit over a person’s shoulders like a hoola hoop. Dousing the person with petrol and setting them alight.
It wasn’t uncommon to see tyres piled up in the winter time on the side of the road on my way to work; all burning so people could keep warm. They burn for a long time too. Kangaroo courts still use the method today.
John Boston says
Ghastly.
Moshe Akiva says
Well, Gandhi at least was an honest idiot. (For further info on that ask any Hindu, who doesn’t like the creation of Pakistan.)
But when it comes to Mandela, I think the comparison is quite appropriate. This Shudri guy is of course a Muslim terrorist, Mandela on the other hand, was a commie. But who knows what would have he done if he could have got into power in South Africa with the help of the Soviet Union back in the good old days?
And then both of them (Mandela and Shudri) hate(d) Jews and Israel.
So, where is the problem? The idiot at the British Bull Crap agency was actually right,