Yes, trying to commit mass murder of people watching a cartoon show — is that right or wrong? That’s a real head-scratcher, a moral puzzle that would overtax the keenest ethical minds.
“Overland Park man is shocked at news of son’s involvement in Garland, Texas, assault,” by Eric Adler, Kansas City Star, May 5, 2015 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
On Tuesday, Azam Soofi of Overland Park struggled to make sense of it all.
“We are grieving,” he said, standing at the threshold of his home on 158th Place.
His son, Nadir Soofi, was dead. Police had identified him, along with Elton Simpson, both of Phoenix, as the two gunmen who on Sunday, firing assault rifles, tried to enter an event in Texas where cartoonists were taking part in a contest that featured drawings of the Prophet Muhammad. Both Soofi, 34, and Simpson, 30, were stopped, killed by police.
Azam Soofi, an engineer, declined to talk about the assault. He was at a loss to reconcile the boy he knew with the actions on Sunday.
“My son was a great son,” Soofi said, “a caring soul, a beautiful person. He lived a real privileged life all his life.”
Soofi said it was through news accounts that he first became aware of his son’s involvement. He was shocked.
“He was a very humble, soft-spoken person,” Soofi said of his son, who did not grow up in the Kansas City area. Azam Soofi moved here about 5 years ago.
Soofi’s wife, Nadia Azam, who later came to the door, spoke at a frustrated pitch, not at all excusing her stepson’s actions on Sunday, she said, but raising questions about the purpose of the cartoon contest.
“My question is,” she said, “what did they (the event organizers) get out of this? How was this event a productive thing for either now or in the future? How was this productive for the average U.S. citizen? Can you answer that one question? How does it make America a better place? This is what I want to know.”
She said it was not for her to judge whether the event was designed as an expression of free speech or to incite.
“That’s for scholars to debate,” she said. “But when you beef up security so much, you know that what you’re doing is either illegal or immoral.”
No, we knew that people like her stepson might try to do something illegal or immoral.
She continued.
“He didn’t have to do it,” she said of Nadir Soofi’s actions. “I’m not defending him. I’m not saying what he did was right or wrong. But how was this event productive? What did it accomplish?”
It accomplished the public spectacle of people showing they would not bow to violence and threats.
Whiskey and Pork Rinds says
Sounds like she has the perfect attitude to be a CNN commentator! She should apply for a job.
Ricky Black says
Nice, your right… very funny, but true
Ricky Black says
My favorite cartoon of mohammed was the chalk outline in the parking lot \o/
jihad3tracker says
Here is a link to a reconstruction of the Garland attack and the counter-fire response that killed those two Allah-worshippers — who are now desperately looking for virgins in a hell of their own making.
http://bearingarms.com/pushed-forward-brave-garland-police-officer-advanced-brought-garland-terrorists/
BTW, THIS IS AT A SUPERB 2ND AMENDMENT / PERSONAL DEFENSE WEBSITE WHICH I HAD NOT IDEA ABOUT. BOOKMARK IT ! ! !
RG says
@Ricky Black.
About that chalk outline thingy in the parking lot, again….”very funny, but true”!!!!! Touché!
jewdog says
Guide to the Perplexed:
What he did wrong: Tried to kill innocent people.
What he did right: Got killed himself.
At least his Mom named him appropriately: Nadir.
Sarah says
“But how was this event productive? What did it accomplish?”
It took you son and another savage out of their hiding place to be taken out by a great American. And that’s just for starters.
Ricky Black says
Amen brother… Texas 2… dirt bags 0
sergio says
Now artist can paint 2 more mad peoples images next to the image of mohammad.
Ricky Black says
Beer and dogs offended Muslims, should we get rid of beer and kill all dogs? Muslim men can not see a woman while chanting to the meteorite in mecca five times a day, should we get rid of all women? It might provoke the Religion of hate to kill somebody. The Koran hates me, I’m offended, does that give me the right to hurt people?
Tequila not Taqiyya says
They are also offended by us not allowing marriages to 6 year old girls and sex with goats which is permissible in Islam.
So not only would we have to give up what we hold dear but we would have to allow these perversions.
Wake-up liberal media and “intellectuals”.
Marty Sanchez says
“He was a very humble, soft-spoken person,” Soofi said of his son.
Yeah but when he is with “infidels” he lets his AK-47 do the talking.
Like the fantastic key-note speaker of this auspicious event Geert Wilders said “don’t mess with Texas”.
Jovial Joe says
A devout muslim’s moral compass has a kind of reverse polarity built into it. Whenever the moral compass of civilized people points one way the Mohammaden’s will point in the opposite direction. It is for this reason that they are the mortal and moral enemies of mankind.
Ricky Black says
Right on… There is a reason why, for the last 1400 years they live over there and we live over here. The Koran hates us and we have forgotten about that, and it’s time we remember it.
Paul says
Exactly
Ricky Black says
Does our freedom and free speech end at the feelings of Muslims? They can get over it like everybody else does.
CogitoErgoSum says
My question is what did Muhammad get out of organizing Islam? How was Islam a productive thing for him? How is Islam productive for the average U.S. citizen? Can you answer that question? How does Islam make America a better place? This is what I want to know.
Proud Pork Fan says
Good point. The obvious answer is that Islam is designed to benefit itself only and the texts call on the Muslims to kill or subjugate all non-Muslims. Like all virulent cults, it’s only goal is to perpetuate, grow and spread. How it separates itself from other cults in its’ viciousness is that it’s preferred method according to the texts is through violence and conquest. Most other virulent cults use other means.
Prinz Eugen says
Event accomplished much — primarily it get the totalitarian intolerant moslem world the opportunity to reveal just how violent and intolerant they can be. Also revealed that all holy jihadists are not especially bright — those two clowns were the El Laurel and El Hardy of comical jihad. Totally inept. That is what comes from fighting with your pure “hate” rather than with ones brains.
Sultan Barry and the old white hag, Hillary, are all for special laws to protect only islam — they will succeed if the GOP congress surrenders program goer son unabated!
Angemon says
I wanted to shot down that “logic” by pointing that courts of law often have beefed up security but then I remembered that every once in a while a mosque asks for police protection against “islamophobes”.
Rob says
‘Led a life of privilege’
Again the facts put paid to the mantra that Jihadis are motivated by poverty and deprivation.
Ashley says
Mom…your boy drove some 15 hours from Phoenix to Garland with an intent to murder scores who stand for free speech.
Why?
Can YOU answer that one question?
Ashley says
But shit, THIS takes the cake!
“But when you beef up security so much, you know that what you’re doing is either illegal or immoral.”
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Got it folks? Beefing up security at critical infrastructures, sporting venues, airports, military installations, etc. is “either illegal or immoral.”
You can’t make this shit up!
Christoph Dollis says
Makes me almost feel sorry for the guy.
What a great moral example he was raised with. /sarc
Paul says
Very scary how some minds think/believe.
Lesley says
She can’t say whether it was right or wrong, what her stepson did? Really? She can’t say? This is very, very troubling…
Don McKellar says
“I’m not saying what he did was right or wrong”
This sums up the standard default position of the moslem majority.
Alex says
Well they can blame Islam for the loss of their son.
My biggest fear is that my (future) children convert to Islam. That would be horrible for me..
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Hahahahahahaahahaha Robert Spencer! ‘That’s a real head-scratcher…’, forsooth.
Whereas the lunatics in the media have absolutely no confusion as to what our wonderful Pam did. Bad, evil, hateful, provocative, yada yada yada…
Boy am I glad I’m on this side. Otherwise I’d belong in a padded room.
CraigAustin says
“How does it make America a better place?”
Easy, 2 less sh#theads.
gravenimage says
On Tuesday, Azam Soofi of Overland Park struggled to make sense of it all.
“We are grieving,” he said
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OK. *And*? I have a close relative who has frequently been involved in violent crime. If I heard that he had been killed by the police, my first question would be whether he had hurt anyone else. I would express regret if he had targeted others, and profound relief if they were safe.
But, tellingly, that is not what Azam Soofi did.
More:
Azam Soofi, an engineer, declined to talk about the assault. He was at a loss to reconcile the boy he knew with the actions on Sunday.
“My son was a great son,” Soofi said, “a caring soul, a beautiful person. He lived a real privileged life all his life.”
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Lots of Jihadists have lived privileged lives. In fact, the idea that they are all “underprivileged” and “poverty stricken” is frequently false.
And notice—dear ol’ dad never actually says that sonny boy (or he himself) were opposed to waging violent Jihad.
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“My question is,” she said, “what did they (the event organizers) get out of this? How was this event a productive thing for either now or in the future? How was this productive for the average U.S. citizen? Can you answer that one question? How does it make America a better place? This is what I want to know.”
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Well, I can answer this evil b*tch—it defended the very freedom of speech your vicious step-son and his thug buddy were trying to violently crush.
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She said it was not for her to judge whether the event was designed as an expression of free speech or to incite.
“That’s for scholars to debate,” she said. “But when you beef up security so much, you know that what you’re doing is either illegal or immoral.”
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“Scholars”—in other words, Muslim clerics. The idea that Infidels should be able to determine their own values free of Muslim coercion is utterly alien to pious Muslims. And the last is just grotesque—that means that the morality of any stance is determined by whether murderous savages want to kill you for it. *Ugh*.
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No, we knew that people like her stepson might try to do something illegal or immoral.
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So true…
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She continued.
“I’m not saying what he did was right or wrong. But how was this event productive? What did it accomplish?”
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If she’s “agnostic” on him murdering peaceful cartoonists and art show attendees, is there *any* act by her devout Muslim step-son that she *would* condemn? I doubt it. And then she immediately begins blaming the victims. This is typical for Muslims.
So glad that the brave folks in Garland stood up to this thuggery.
It just makes you wonder how many more there are in the free West like the vile Soofi family, though…
longjok says
“He lived a real privileged life all his life.” but…but.. its poverty, lack of opportunity which causes this! All the poor babies needed was a job and a CHANCE!
Liberal/leftist enablers need to become a lot less afraid and a lot more self critical.
Barnaby says
Let’s be honest, she’s right, the event achieved nothing, had no reasonable or logical purpose other than to offend and incite. It wasn’t about free speech. But it was legal and it was their legal right to do it, however lacking in artistic value. But none of this changes the fact that the greater wrong is that of the two murderous jihadis.
Ashley says
“Let’s be honest, she’s right, the event achieved nothing, had no reasonable or logical purpose other than to offend and incite. It wasn’t about free speech.”
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It is my understanding that the idea of the cartoon contest was in direct response to the Charlie Hebdo massacre. A massacre, I might add, that extended beyond the satirical magazine and claimed the lives of innocents at a deli.
Pamela spearheaded a creative venue to express our collective outrage over the incidents that unfolded in Paris and beyond. The cartoon event was an opportunity to stand in solidarity for all writers and artists that have been murdered or forced to go into hiding for the “crime” of expressing their views on Islam.
It WAS about free speech.
FredvanH says
An ENGINEER? Something tells me that’s BULLSHIT.
justjane says
” But when you beef up security so much, you know what your doing is illegal or immoral”, so what is with all the security at Mosques , that I don’t see at Christian churches? She can’t even say that someone who wanted to kill is bad and those who don’t aren’t? She can’t even make a committed statement one way or the other. The only thing she can do is blame the non-muslim. “My son was a great son, a caring soul, a beautiful person” ??? Mother Teresa was a caring soul, and a beautiful person. U.S. Marines are great sons and daughters. Their son was a scumbag, dangerous, hateful, ignorant and should have never been in the U.S.