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CNN: “Star Wars” is more Islamic than the Islamic State

May 12, 2015 6:03 pm By Robert Spencer

H. A. HellyerI was all set to take out more garbage — i.e., answer still more media lies and distortions, but in this piece, “‘Star Wars’ or ISIS: Which is more Islamic?,” (CNN, May 12, 2015), author H. A. Hellyer, a non-resident fellow at the Project on U.S. Relations with the Islamic World at the Qatar-funded Brookings Institution’s Centre for Middle East Policy, contents himself with showing, quite fancifully, that “Star Wars” is Islamic. He doesn’t bother to show how the Islamic State is not Islamic, perhaps because there has already been an avalanche of such articles published by CNN and others. The case is made, at least for the mainstream media.

Now if only Hellyer or one of his colleagues would go over to Raqqa and explain to the Islamic State jihadis how they’re misunderstanding Islam.

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  1. MKG says

    May 12, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    Yah……….
    Moisture farmers being killed by Sand People comes to mind.

    • Knight of St. John says

      May 12, 2015 at 10:25 pm

      Very funy and spot on MKG.

      • MKG says

        May 12, 2015 at 11:00 pm

        I’m glad Mr. Spencer gives us something we can poke some fun at every now and again.

        May the Lord Bless and Keep the Hospitallers.

    • Darren says

      May 14, 2015 at 1:22 pm

      These aren’t the droids you’re looking for…..

  2. No Fear says

    May 12, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    Every atrocity committed by ISIS members is taught to them by the Quran and the Hadith.
    The Quran and the Hadith and the life of Mohammed….the three things that define Islam.
    And all three of them contain atrocities..

    • mortimer says

      May 13, 2015 at 6:52 am

      The Islamic Trilogy (Sira, hadiths and Koran) are the basis of Islam. The manual of Sharia law summarizes Islam.

      Sharia law commands Muslims to be jihadists and vigilante murderers of apostates and blasphemers.

    • spot on says

      May 13, 2015 at 7:48 am

      Actually, Islamic savage ISIS inventive minds are constantly at work much more than we think. See this new torture method and device that ISIS invented and used on a Muslim woman caught breast feeding her baby in public: (This rates right up there with Saddam’s tree shredders for shredding people.)

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/isis-finds-savage-way-to-mutilate-women-caught-breast-feeding-in-public/

  3. david says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    Are sufi’s doctrinal (halal) according to IS? Suspect they are not.

    • mortimer says

      May 13, 2015 at 12:42 am

      ISIS threatened Sufis they would be punished as polytheists or sorcerers, i.e. beheading

      http://www.syriahr.com/en/2014/11/islamic-state-accuses-philosophy-teachers-lawyers-and-sufi-followers-of-being-infidels/

      IS informed all the lawyers, philosophy teachers and Sufi followers in the city of al- Mayadin that they have to attend a Sharia course of up to about 40 days in al- Rawda mosque in the city of al- Mayadin in Deir Ezzor Province. They have warned them that they will be punished in case of not attending the course.

      In this course, IS members had talked about sorcery, where they considered learning sorcery is “ Kufur” (blasphemous) even though it is not applied by those who learn it. In addition to, they considered philosophy is “Kufur” too, and that everyone studies it is “infidel” because philosophy names Allah “Top Motive”. They also considered that the person who learns and practices jurisprudence is “infidel” because this gives the right of legislation not only for Allah but also for others and this is “Sherk” (polytheism). On the other hand, they said that Sufism is a “corrupt doctrine” and that its followers are “polytheists”. One of the Sufi followers, who was attending the Sharia course, defended his doctrine presenting his evidences that Sufism is not polytheism that make the IS leading figure who managed the course to get angry and hit the man accusing him that he is polytheist and persist in this, and he will be before the jurisdiction of Islamic State.

  4. Angemon says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    CNN: “Star Wars” is more Islamic than the Islamic State

    Let’s face it: according to MSM sources and “pundits”, what isn’t more islamic than the islamic state?

    • Angemon says

      May 13, 2015 at 8:04 am

      Also:

      author H. A. Hellyer, a non-resident fellow at the Project on U.S. Relations with the Islamic World at the Qatar-funded Brookings Institution’s Centre for Middle East Policy, contents himself with showing, quite fancifully, that “Star Wars” is Islamic.

      This can also be seen as part of the chilling trend of islamizing history. Muslim spokespersons and sympathizers seem hellbent of attributing authorship of anything worthwhile to muslims:

  5. Max Publius says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    Will the pseudo-intellectuals next explain that European colonists and slave owners were not really European, because no real European would ever do nasty things? This is an old logical fallacy, i.e., “No real Scotsman would …” Not that comparing an amorphous culture to a theology-bound religion is a valid comparison. It’s far more damning to Islam when Muslims act out their easily read theology of violence. Cultures have no such words to be bound by.

    So the pseudo-intellectuals are trying to protect Muslims from the consequences of their actions, by perverting the historical record to hide the reality of Muslim words and deeds aligned with Islamic texts.

    This is the political wing protecting the terrorist wing of the same ideological monster.

    • Beagle says

      May 12, 2015 at 8:54 pm

      Yes, this cannot be restated enough. The basic defense of Islam by allegedly smart people is the Muslim variation on the No True Scotsman logical fallacy popularized by Antony Flew, himself no fan of Islam.

      • ECAW says

        May 13, 2015 at 3:07 am

        Yep – one of my favourite quotes on Islam:

        “I would never regard Islam with anything but horror and fear because it is fundamentally committed to conquering the world for Islam…”. Antony Flew.

      • Max Publius says

        May 13, 2015 at 4:23 am

        Thanks, I did not know the back story about Antony Flew!

        • mortimer says

          May 13, 2015 at 6:55 am

          Islam has nothing to do with Islam.

  6. Champ says

    May 12, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    Wow mohammedans just keep putting up more smoke ‘n mirrors through fictitious pretzel logic! …and just like our household garbage never ends, the mind-numbing mohammedan garbage is neverending, too.

  7. Tom Cherian Mullammootil says

    May 12, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    If ISIS is not ISLAMIC then Muhammad(Islamic prophet) is NOT Islamic as well.

  8. Don McKellar says

    May 12, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    In the world of Star Wars, which actually has a great deal of shadowy racist overtones that have been discussed and debated endlessly by geeks over the years, one could make a very good case for the Sand People representing the moslems on the desert planet. They even operate by the warfare techniques practised by mohammad. Meanwhile, Luke and his family are very much the British colonists.

    • Don McKellar says

      May 12, 2015 at 9:09 pm

      And, no, I do not equate moslems with a race. They are not. They are a death cult originating with violent desert dwellers.

      • Byzantine Partisan says

        May 12, 2015 at 9:17 pm

        Arabs were Christians before they were Mohammadans.

        • Don McKellar says

          May 13, 2015 at 1:39 am

          And they were Jews and they were Zoroastrian and they were Polytheists BY MAJORITY — from which Allah who was the “creator god” along with over a dozen other gods. And it was from this mishmash of the variety of religions that the warlords concocted Islam so that they could have one religion to unite their growing territory, which was taken by the sword. They stuck with their god Allah, rewrote the Bible to suit their purposes, and took a bunch of modified customs from the Jews, and reflected it all in their dark mirror and created Islam, complete with an invented a prophet who supposedly died decades before any of his “revelations” were even written down.

  9. Timothius says

    May 12, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Does anyone think that MSM, or any news agency stating that a movie Is more islamic than ISIS has just blown its credibility? Not that that hasn’t already happened. Excuse me I have to barf now!

  10. Joseph says

    May 12, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    I think he means Yoda’s bunghole(anus) is Islamic.
    It is ugly.(Islam)
    It passes out crap(Islam)
    That crap stinks(Islam)
    People follow/believe all that crap.(Islam & Mohammed)
    People like to throw that crap around.(liberals/left)
    People(you and I) are forced to live with that crap.

    What a $hitty future if that crap succeeds.

  11. MKG says

    May 12, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    Perhaps muhamed was a Sith Lord who used his powers of the dark side to persuade a bunch of fools to wage war against other (human) beings in an attempt to rule the galaxy (planet).

    OK Don, I admit it. I’m a geek.

  12. Westman says

    May 13, 2015 at 12:16 am

    Wrong movie. Fundamentslist Islam is more like the Alien Culture in, “Independence Day”.

  13. Arthur says

    May 13, 2015 at 12:39 am

    Hellyer doesn’t make a single sound argument. His Star Wars reference is simply an excuse to pepper an article glorifying Islam with Star Wars photos to interest a broader audience.

    Yoda lived in a mud hut at the base of a tree, not a cave.

    Let’s remember a few quotes from the movie that don’t fit with Islam
    “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.” – Yoda
    “Adventure. Excitement. A Jedi craves not these things.” – Yoda
    “Fear is the path to the dark side…fear leads to anger…anger leads to hate…hate leads to suffering.” – Yoda
    “Great warrior? Wars not make one great.” – Yoda
    “Luminous beings are we…not this crude matter.” – Yoda
    “The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It’s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.” – Obi-Wan Kenobi
    “I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn’t allow it. He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damn fool idealistic *crusade* like your father did. ” – Obi-Wan Kenobi
    “For over a thousand generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times… before the Empire.” – Obi-Wan Kenobi
    “The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.” – Obi-Wan Kenobi
    “Who’s the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?” – Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Luke to Vader: “Let go of your hate.”

    I don’t think Mohammed would’ve made the cut as a Jedi Knight! It seems easy to prove that Mohammed would make a good example of the dark side of the force! Lies, wars, hate, anger, fear inducing…

  14. mortimer says

    May 13, 2015 at 1:02 am

    ISIS bases their every thought, word and deed upon the Sira, hadiths and Koran.

    However, the Star War Trilogy’s Jedis are based on imagination and probably the Glass Bead Game (Das Glasperlenspiel) by Herman Hesse.

    If H. A. Hellyer wants a fantasy movie that compares well with Islam, he would have to choose “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom” or “The Scorpion King” (2002).

  15. cs says

    May 13, 2015 at 2:27 am

    People are not buying it.

  16. Lauren says

    May 13, 2015 at 2:38 am

    “Star Wars” is more Islamic than the Islamic State”

    THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!!

  17. Plutarchus7 says

    May 13, 2015 at 4:20 am

    “STAR WARS” IS MORE ISLAMIC THAN THE ISLAMIC STATE

    May the FARCE be with you!

    • ECAW says

      May 13, 2015 at 5:08 am

      🙂

  18. Lia Wissing says

    May 13, 2015 at 4:47 am

    Mr Hellyer (& the others who stampede to the tune of ‘the religion of peace’) may, in that single moment before their heads fall off, open their eyes & see the world straight-on …

  19. duh_swami says

    May 13, 2015 at 7:58 am

    If movies describe Islam, try, ‘2000 Maniacs’…Or ‘Killer Clowns from Outer Space…

  20. Aussie Infidel says

    May 13, 2015 at 8:15 am

    Muslims remind me of the ‘Borg’ on Star Trek. They have a ‘hive mind’, and act like automatons.

    “It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.” (Q33:36 Sahih International).

    This coming Saturday is World Dawah Day. Alert your friends.

    • Lilithwept says

      May 14, 2015 at 11:19 am

      That World Dawah Day is sick! Muslims proselytizing and telling non muslims how much they loooove Muhammed!!!
      I honestly cant believe that supposedly normal educated adults say they love Mohammed! Thats like sayingbyou love Pol Pot or Hitler or Gengis Kahn!
      I read ” It’s All About Mohammed” by F.W.Burleigh and it is a very well researched Islamic source based biography of Mohammed, the best I have read.

      I had to,just put the book down at some points because the constant slaugher, taking of female slaves, rape, raiding for slaves and booty just made me sick.
      And the constant harping on what horrible things would happen to people who said that Mohammed was possesed and offered to,pay for somone to perform an exorcism , that he was suffering from falling sickness ( epilepsy) that he was mad, a deranged poet, saying he made up the Quran , was told what he knew by others which is all true.
      Mohammed never tired of repeating over and over how those who said those things about him would be punished in this world and the hearafter. Mohammed standing up in mosque asking ” Who will go kill this person for me?” And sending an assasian to go,kill someone who had made fun of or mocked Mohammed. And when he conqured and sacked Mecca he had a hit list of people that were to be killed on site, no matter whatvthey said or did. And those people were killed by Mohammed’s fanatical followers!!!
      Reading this account taken from the Hadiths, Sira and Quran and realizing that this is Sunnah, this is the ” perfect example of a muslim man” that all muslims are to emulate just cemented my realization of how horrible Islam is.
      If you Google World Dawah Day there is a whole, organized orchestrated movement to proselytize to non muslims and try to get them to convert and to tell non muslims why muslims love Mohammed…..

      There’s a Facebook page too. Maybe all us filthy Kuffar should hijack World Dawah Day movement and post on their Facebook page why we hate Muhammed complete wuth Hadith, Sira and Quran quotes so they cant say we’ve lied!!! I will check their Facbookpage later to,see if any Kuffar has taken my challenge!

  21. shrugger says

    May 13, 2015 at 10:25 am

    How many sharks are we going to allow CNN to jump?? SERIOUSLY!

  22. Joe Shmo says

    May 13, 2015 at 10:30 am

    Well, Islam is a Phantom Menace. I’ll give him that.

  23. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    May 13, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    … the Project on U.S. Relations with the Islamic World at the Qatar-funded Brookings Institution’s Centre for Middle East Policy

    A project on the U.S. relating with the Moslem world. That’s easy. A quart container of Ultra Glide, or a gallon of melted lard if that’s not available, placed on the bareback of the U.S. person, lay face down over the edge of a table, and from there let nature take its course. That’s what Ambassador Stevens did to pass the time before he was finally murdered, but unfortunately for him without the lube, and with no table to lay on. Oooh. Applying the lesson from Benghazi to general U.S.-Islamic World relations, substitute the Ultra Glide (or melted lard) with a different kind of lube in the form of good old fashioned U.S. dollars.

    The signature of U.S. Infidel-Moslem relations is played out tens of thousands of times daily: the Infidel gets out of his cab driven to the airport by a Moslem, gives an undeserved tip to the scowling Moslem hack out of guilt, proceeds into the security line set up by the DHS to avert a Moslem plane hijacking or an airborne explosion, takes off his shoes and belt and throws his laptop into a rubber tray, has his genitalia roughly fondled by an overpaid federal TSA employee who gruffly interrogates him about what he’s up to, why the trip, and then finally gets on the plane wondering if this is the one in which a package of C4 will explode in the luggage hold, or maybe in a Moslima passenger’s weaponized titty, or maybe in the soles of a Moslem passenger’s shoes, or maybe in his underwear, or maybe the plane will be hijacked by a crack team of Mujahidin and flown at 600 mph into the side of a skyscraper filled with Infidels.

    That is U.S. Infidel-Moslem relations: statements. The Infidel gives a meek peep statement or maybe says nothing at all so as to not arouse suspicion or offend anybody. The Moslem, he takes undeserved tips and is always making down the highway in his SBA subsidized cab making his statements into his cell phone chatting up another Moslem about the next high concept statement that the Ummah will make that will end up as a week long headline on cable news and maybe even be the subject of a week long emergency Congressional hearing.

    The beat goes on. I can relate.

  24. profitsbeard says

    May 13, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    The Koran is like Jar-Jar Binks.

    Silly, stupid, insulting and unnecessary/

  25. Randall says

    May 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    More disinformatsiya from the Islamic Office of Disinformation. Islamic State is a picture perfect representation of true believers who idolize Muhammad as Allah.

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