The seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur’an. According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war” (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general. The Qur’an says that a man may have sex with his wives and with these slave girls: “The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame.” (Qur’an 23:1-6)
The rape of captive women is also sanctioned in Islamic tradition:
Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-’azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born. (Muslim 3371)
It is also in Islamic law: “When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.” (Umdat al-Salik O9.13)
The Egyptian Sheikh Abu-Ishaq al-Huwayni declared in May 2011 that “we are in the era of jihad,” and that meant Muslims would take slaves. In a subsequent interview he elaborated:
Jihad is only between Muslims and infidels. Spoils, slaves, and prisoners are only to be taken in war between Muslims and infidels. Muslims in the past conquered, invaded, and took over countries. This is agreed to by all scholars—there is no disagreement on this from any of them, from the smallest to the largest, on the issue of taking spoils and prisoners. The prisoners and spoils are distributed among the fighters, which includes men, women, children, wealth, and so on.
When a slave market is erected, which is a market in which are sold slaves and sex-slaves, which are called in the Qur’an by the name milk al-yamin, “that which your right hands possess” [Koran 4:24]. This is a verse from the Qur’an which is still in force, and has not been abrogated. The milk al-yamin are the sex-slaves. You go to the market, look at the sex-slave, and buy her. She becomes like your wife, (but) she doesn’t need a (marriage) contract or a divorce like a free woman, nor does she need a wali. All scholars agree on this point—there is no disagreement from any of them. […] When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her.
Around the same time, on May 25, 2011, a female Kuwaiti politician, Salwa al-Mutairi, also spoke out in favor of the Islamic practice of sexual slavery of non-Muslim women, emphasizing that the practice accorded with Islamic law and the parameters of Islamic morality.
A merchant told me that he would like to have a sex slave. He said he would not be negligent with her, and that Islam permitted this sort of thing. He was speaking the truth. I brought up [this man’s] situation to the muftis in Mecca. I told them that I had a question, since they were men who specialized in what was halal, and what was good, and who loved women. I said, “What is the law of sex slaves?”
The mufti said, “With the law of sex slaves, there must be a Muslim nation at war with a Christian nation, or a nation which is not of the religion, not of the religion of Islam. And there must be prisoners of war.”
“Is this forbidden by Islam?” I asked.
“Absolutely not. Sex slaves are not forbidden by Islam. On the contrary, sex slaves are under a different law than the free woman. The free woman must be completely covered except for her face and hands. But the sex slave can be naked from the waist up. She differs a lot from the free woman. While the free woman requires a marriage contract, the sex slave does not—she only needs to be purchased by her husband, and that’s it. Therefore the sex slave is different than the free woman.”
The savage exploitation of girls and young women is, unfortunately, a cross-cultural phenomenon, but only in Islamic law does it carry divine sanction. Homaidan al-Turki no doubt doesn’t think he did anything wrong in keeping his sex slave — but going to the sex offender’s course that he thinks would feature pictures of scantily-clad women is absolutely out.
“Saudi who ‘kept maid as sex slave’ denied parole in US for refusing to attend sex offender course,” by Orlando Crowcroft, International Business Times, May 15, 2015:
A Saudi national who was convicted of keeping his Indonesian maid as a sex slave has refused to attend a mandatory sex offender’s course, arguing that his Muslim beliefs do not allow him to look at pictures of scantily-clad women.
Homaidan al-Turki, 45, was jailed for 28 years in 2006 after his maid claimed she had been forced to work 12 hour days with no break and then locked in a cellar and abused regularly by the Saudi, who was in the US on an academic scholarship with his wife and five children.
Al-Turki’s sentence was reduced in 2011 to eight years-to-life but his parole applications have been repeatedly denied because of his refusal to attend a sex offenders course.
Al-Turki told prison officials in 2013 that the sex offender treatment programme “conflicts with [his] Islamic faith”, according to a letter by the then executive director of the Colorado Department of Corrections, Tom Clements.
His lawyers told the court in the same year that the programme: “would require [him] to look at photos that included women in bathing suits or undergarments as part of the evaluation process”, AP reported.
A Colorado Department of Corrections spokesperson told IBTimes UK: “Our treatment program does not show photos or images of scantily clad women” but that it would involve open discussion and admission of his offenses, which al-Turki has always denied.
Al-Turki’s extremely complex case began in 2004 when he, his wife and the maid – who the family had brought to America from their home in Riyadh – were arrested by US immigration over visa issues. The housekeeper claimed that she had suffered four years of exploitation and abuse by the family, including being sexually abused in a cellar in the al-Turki home.
After a two-and-a-half week trial – where it also emerged that al-Turki was being investigated by the FBI over potential terrorist links – he was convicted and given 28 years for sex offences and unlawful imprisonment. This was reduced to eight years in 2011 with a Colorado judge arguing that the original sentence had been “excessive”.
The case has become a cause célèbre in Saudi Arabia, with Al-Turki’s conviction and subsequent failure in 2013 to persuade the courts to allow him to serve his sentence at home garnering major media coverage.
As well as the refusal to take the mandatory treatment, prosecutors argued that there was no guarantee that the Saudi authorities would not release al-Turki as soon as he landed in Riyadh.
A hashtag in Arabic featuring al-Turki’s name had got over 900 thousands tweets by Thursday, and prominent media figures had made statements calling for his release.
Many Saudis consider al-Turki’s conviction to be politically motivated and that his original jailing was the product of anti-Muslim bias in the wake of the September 11 attacks. They point to his original investigation on terrorism charges as evidence that the US government wanted to frame al-Turki anyway it could.
Abdullah al-Mudaifer, a TV presenter at Rotana in Riyadh, said: “The majority of people in Saudi Arabia believe he has been subject to fabricated charges. Even those who believe he is guilty suggest that 28 years [the length of his initial charge] is long for this kind of conviction.”…
Richie says
Pedophilia is a central part of slam. it will be telling to see what kind of vermin come out to defend this piece of grabage. Wil CAIR defend him and his right to rape children?
Why is this animal allowed to be in our country?
Rita says
“…what kind of vermin come out to defend this piece of grabage.”
Other child-rapists.
“… Wil CAIR defend him and his right to rape children?…”
Of course, they are the Muslim Brotherhood who is the daddy of Pedophilia/Child-rape.
Xero_G says
This joke reflects a problem with the Islamic world:
Q: What’s the ugliest thing on a preteen Muslim girl?
A: Her husband.
spot on says
No wonder our prisons are overflowing with allowing Muslims to get into our country.
Shane says
Any non-Muslim country that allows large numbers of Muslims to immigrate into it is sowing the seeds of its own destruction. Stop all Muslim immigration into the West.
EYESOPEN says
Concur.
Catherine Mires says
Why do these have to be called “Infidels”? They were held as slaves, they should be called “Victims” instead.
Greyhound Fancier says
Sex slavery is a problem in the US as well, BUT with a difference. We’re preparing to put on a program on human trafficking at our church. I can picture an attendee stating, when a connection to Islam/terrorism and trafficking is mentioned, “but this happens all over the world”.
Yes, it does. But I bet if we asked the Pope or the Archbishop of Canterbury or any Orthodox patriarch if it is all right to purchase and keep a sex slave, they wouldn’t give an answer anything like what the mufti in Egypt offered!
Trafficking is despicable – and any “religion” that sanctions it is disgusting! These practices are like an update to Ba’al worship, and the sex slavery that occurred in pagan temples in pre-Christian times in the known world.
Linde Barrera says
To Greyhound Fancier- Thank you for your comment about the sex slave traffic. You said it like a Christian preacher, God bless you. The Mufti of Egypt was being candid, disgusting as his candor was.
Kepha says
@Greyhound Fancier:
When I was US Vice Consul in Bangkok, I learned more than I wanted to know about human trafficking and sex slavery of both sexes [sure, I know, some wag out there is going to think Uncle Kepha was indulging himself. Hahahahah at your funny joke, pal].
I commend your church for opening up on this topic. It is sordid, sordid, sordid.
As far as I’m concerned, why waste a sex offender course on Homaidan al-Turki? He’s just a kidnapper and rapist. He deserves a public hanging. Throw the book at him! However, I’ll commend him for at least being honest about his seeing such predation as a religious duty. Far worse are the AIDS/HIV-riddled Western sex tourists who go to various places for one last fling with partners as young as they can find them, and then tell themselves they’re helping poor families.
Linde Barrera says
To Kepha- With your knowledge of Thailand, then and now, would you say that Islam and possible jihad attacks presents a problem in that country? I would love to get your considered opinion. Thank you.
Manuel Paleologus says
Because animals are in DC and they try to animalized the whole nation. Do not ask yourself these silly questions. The whole country is Islamized and perverted. This is an reenacting of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Nothing more, nothing less.
America must start from scratch. It is defiled.
Jay Airahs says
Where do Muslims get such a shameless sense of entitlement?
— Muhammad’s disgrace still oozes from the slime of hell..
Linde Barrera says
To Jay Airahs- I have missed you. Hope you are feeling grrrrreat!
Gary says
Satan. The father of all lies.
WestwardHo says
It is also in Islamic law: “When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.” (Umdat al-Salik O9.13)
There’s that sociopathic matter-of-factness of the statements of Sharia “legalities”! EEeeeeggh.
It’s like people who are Evil but have a biting aversion to being “Chaotic Evil” – they *must* take pains to keep things “Lawful Evil,” so to speak. And once that’s done, they feel ALL is now well – It’s been recorded as “Lawful!”
PRODOS says
WestwardHo contrasts “Chaotic Evil” with “Lawful Evil”.
Very interesting.
Thinking out loud on this …
Perhaps Codified/Lawful evil is more effective than “Chaotic Evil” — if the aim is Submission.
Following, mulling over, analysing the code/law helps to reinforce and refine the idiom of Submission.
How do I Submit to thee? Let me count the ways!
Eg: Should apostates be killed? Yes? Okay, but should they be killed on the spot? Or given a few days to “re-think”? Can we kill him after that? What if they were drunk at the time? What if they were crazy? Does the principle apply equally to men and women? What about children? What if someone kills and apostate on the spot — even though scholars prefer a 3-day grace period? Has he committed a punishable crime? Etc. etc. blah, blah, blah.
Embracing a code or “law” also allows for a more psychopathic method — one devoid of feelings such as compassion, sympathy, revulsion, etc. Killing becomes technical and efficient.
All of it reinforces and refines the supremacy of Submission to the Religion of Submission. All of it reinforces the irrelevance of freedom of conscience and freedom of dissent.
Lia Wissing says
Hitler’s horrible hordes were only applying codified laws, as well.
Linde Barrera says
Methinks the Saudis doth protest too much. The hypocritical, rotten, corrupt Saudi government refuses to see how this creep is so bad, but do you hear them sticking up for the innocent Christians being slaughtered by ISIS? What philosopher said: “The good will become evil and the evil will become good?”
thelmalou says
I don’t get it. Why not deport him? Who cares what he does when he gets to Saudi Arabia? He’s at least not living off our tax dollars. Living in SA should be punishment enough.
Arthur says
So by your logic, any visiting foreign national is free to commit any crime they please against American citizens (or other foreign nationals), as long as they pay for their own flight back home?
I don’t know any country that codifies such disrespect for its own citizens.
thelmalou says
He is not a citizen. He’s been on our dime for six years. Send him and his family home.
Western Canadian says
After castrating the worthless pig, first.
Jack Diamond says
The al-Turki are a prominent and powerful clan in Saudi Arabia, that’s why the Colorado Attorney General made a special trip to visit Abdullah and the al-Turki family in Riyadh to smooth over the matter in 2006. Incidentally, this was Homaidan al-Turki’s statement at the time: “The state has criminalized these basic Muslim behaviors. Attacking traditional Muslim behaviors was the focal point of the prosecution.” Regarding the sex slavery of a no-account Indonesian servant girl.
The effort by Saudi Arabia to get him transferred back home from the US prison to “finish out his term”
nearly happened, the transfer orders were signed by the director of the Colorado Department of Corrections, Tom Clements, but the FBI intervened because of– you guessed it–al-Turki’s connections to terrorism. Clements then denied the transfer saying it was because al-Turki had refused sex offender treatments as required by his sentencing. This was March 11, 2013. Eight days later Clements was shot dead at his own front door.
Saudi media and the kingdom regard al-Turki as innocent and a victim of Islamophobia. “Why should he pay with 28 years of his life for hiring an Indonesian servant?” said the host of one Saudi documentary about him. This is from the court record of how he treated the sex slave whom he held captive: “(al-Turki)would go to her room in the basement at night and sexually molest her, including digitally penetrating her and forcing her to perform oral sex on him (Record 19:21- 22, 26, 65, 97, 99, 102; 21:41)… During the last incident of sexual abuse, which occurred approximately two weeks before Z.A.’s arrest, Mr. Al-Turki, for the first time, had sexual intercourse with Z.A., who was still a virgin (Record 21:44-46).”
“The State has criminalized these basic Muslim behaviors.” Should be stamped on every Qur’an issued in America.
Arthur says
That’s a great idea! A red-letter edition of the Koran! Everything in red is prohibited in the USA! What a great way to illustrate the incompatibilities of Islam and our free republic!
thelmalou says
The Saudis are our allies. We need to remedy this situation asap. Their way of life is just as inimical to ours as that of Iran. I see US universities educating kids from Saudi Arabia and other such countries all the time.
As a side note, aside from sexual slavery( which to us is a no brainer,) I see US universities educating people from Saudi Arabia and other such countries all the time. Some of the students are really nice people, I’m sure, but I would like to see my tax dollars going into educating students from the USA. We are preparing the children of our opponents to wage war against us. We are handing over technology left and right. I see it right in my city. The professors cannot legally keep certain technologies away from any qualified student. They have no choice in the matter. This is a serious problem that I am seeing up close and personal. Beware USA. We are being foolhardy.
Linde Barrera says
To thelmalou- I liked your 5:56 pm comment except for the part “The Saudis are our ally.” The cowardly King Saud asked for US intervention with Sadam Hussein because the king thought Sadam was going to kill him after Sadam invaded Kuwait. Osama bin Laden was so incensed that American “infidels” were on the soil of the 2 “Holy” Mosques that he planned 9/11 and got Saudi money to fund it. Saudi Arabia is run by despots who only care to advance their version of Islam. Any semblance of “ally” is on our part for them.
thelmalou says
Can’t disagree there. Not one bit.
Jack Diamond says
There are some 70,000 Saudis registered as studying in the U.S. They’ve included Khalid Aldawsari, studying chemical engineering in Texas and plotting to blow up former President Bush, in fact, his diary indicated his whole purpose in studying in America was to carry out jihad. He was also looking at dams in Colorado and California. This administration has lifted most of the restrictions on Saudi entry to America that were put on after 9/11. Why were those restrictions put on again?
Here’s an all-too familiar example of a really nice Saudi in American academia. Majid al-Massari was a very popular teacher at the University of Washington, he was a computer-security specialist who had studied advanced physics in the United States and then got a job with the UW Nursing School. He was a “big teddy bear”, a real happy guy, according to students, and he had never talked about religion. Except, Majid al-Massari was also the son of Dr. Muhammad al-Massari, an Al Qaeda intellectual running the Committee for the Defense of Legitimate Rights (i.e. Jihad) from London. Another Al Qaeda tied group was the Advice and Reformation Committee (ARC) whose branch in the U.S. was set up by Dr. al-Massari’s wife, Lujain al-Iman. Both of these groups disseminated Al Qaeda propaganda and the ARC in London was headed by Khalid al-Fawwaz. This was the man who set up the infrastructure in East Africa for the embassy bombings in 1998. CDLR’s US Branch was registered to a known Bin Laden operative. The satellite phone delivered by Tarik Hamdi to Bin Laden so he could coordinate his attacks, had Khalid al-Fawwaz as the intermediary. This is al-Massari, the husband and wife. And the son?
The son, Majid, built and ran the father’s website, a well-known watering hole on the Net for Al Qaeda types. The son posted his own jihad rants on the web. This real nice Saudi guy.
Majid got busted for possession of crack cocaine and that was the initial reason given for deporting him back to SA, but it became a big political cause celebre that the son was being punished for the sins of the father in a hysterical witch-hunt, with his lawyer pleading for asylum, arguing Majid would be tortured or killed if sent back to SA since the father had been exiled for plotting to overthrow the Al Saud. So what happened?! Was Majid tortured when he was sent back to Saudi Arabia? Did he renounce his father? No.
He was put in charge of computer security for the Kingdom and has had nothing but high-level jobs. His LinkedIn page listed his continuing membership in the CDLR. More Saudis, please.
Linde Barrera says
To Jack Diamond- Your post about the Saudis was unbelievable and I am sure absolutely true. I respectfully ask where did you find this information/news? I would like to have access to it to spread it around to everybody I know. Thank you sir.
Jack Diamond says
Linde Barrera: I did send links in a post but it has not shown up.
I’ll look again later to see if it has.
Linde Barrera says
To Jack Diamond- Thank you so much. I very much appreciate you taking the time and trouble to help a computer dunce like me. From where I sit, you, Jack Diamond, are akin to a legal eagle Walter Cronkite with lots of integrity and eloquence, and no drama. I always enjoy reading anything you write. No flattery, and no flirting intended!
Jack Diamond says
Obama ends post 9/11 restrictions on Saudis:
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/01/06/obama-administration-ends-post-911-restrictions-on-saudis-entering-u-s/
Saudi student arrested for plotting to kill George Bush:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/24/saudi-citizen-texas-charged-suspected-bombing-plot/
This is a summary of some of Muhammad al-Massari’s adventures:
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=mohammed_al-massari__1
Much of my information originally came from the detailed report of the 9/11 victims lawsuit (John Doe vs. bin Laden etc) which named Saudi persons, banks, charities, Islamic organizations tied to Al Qaeda leading up to 9/11. I cannot find a link to it
anymore however.
An older article on his CDLR: http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2283
and the Tajdeed website mentioned: http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2283
You can look “Majed al-Massari” up on LinkedIn and find his job history since being deported back to SA, high level IT work and security for AwalNet and Saudi Telecom
I had read a personal link of Majed to the CDLR years back, now there is just this relic:
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Majid-Al-Massari/703591426
The CDLR is now defunct. Muhammad al-Massari’s LinkedIn page says he is now
Secretary General of Tanjeed, the Party for Islamic Renewal (PIR). Tanjeed was the name of the notorious jihadi website (and radio station).
Jack Diamond says
Thank you Linde. I’ve tried twice to post links and nothing shows up so I assume links are not on the menu tonight.
Most of the information is pretty easily retrievable using a search engine. “Obama administration ends post-911 restrictions on Saudis entering U.S.”; “Saudi Citizen in Texas Charged in Suspected Bombing Plot”;
There is an account of the CDLR, the ARC, the al-Massaris and Al Qaeda in the 9/11 victims lawsuit (John Doe vs. Bin Laden) which detailed the Saudi persons, banks, charities, and Islamic organizations tied to Al Qaeda leading up to 9/11. I can’t find a pdf of it anymore but there are other summaries of the information (ex. at History Commons under Muhammad al-Massari). Militant Islam Monitor has some older articles on al-Massari.
Majed al-Massari’s LinkedIn page lists his jobs since being deported back to SA, all high level IT and security positions, such as with AwalNet and Saudi Telecom. I had seen another profile page of his years ago listing his membership with CDLR. CDLR is now defunct. His father, Muhammad al-Massari has a LinkedIn page too, and he is now “Secretary General of Tajdeed (Party of Islamic Renewal)”. Tajdeed, the name of his notorious jihadi website (and radio station) and it means renewal and revival of Islam to its original purity. You know, reformation.
Linde Barrera says
To Jack Diamond- Your last name is a gem, and you are worth your weight in gold. Thank you kindly. I will check out everything you listed.
EYESOPEN says
“The State has criminalized these basic Muslim behaviors.”
That’s because they ARE criminal! But an Arabian-supremacist savage with the same ideas as his 7th century uber-criminal (Mad Mo) would certainly not see the truth of what I just said.
Arthur says
What is the process by which a sentence is reduced from 28 years (for slavery and repeated rape) to 8 years? Saudi King calls Obama -> Obama calls judge -> judge reduces sentence??? How many Muslim-sympathizing judges would it take to ‘re-evaluate’ every sentence on Muslim convicts? Would that essentially create different rules for Muslims and non-Muslims right here, right now in the USA? How many appointments has Obama made that could start doing this tomorrow? Who is the investigative journalist looking into the influences that led to the judge’s action to chop off 71% of the sentence ordered by the original trial? When did we start polling the Saudi Arabian citizens for their opinion on US criminal court sentences? Do the Saudi citizens set US sentencing guidelines?
If a white guy took a black woman as a slave and raped her, would his sentence be 28 years? reduced to 8? Could he just spend 8 years confined to a comfortable suburban home watching TV while his wife ran out for groceries? Could he ‘hire’ another housekeeper? Would all that be OK if it was discovered that he was a Muslim white guy?
Is this what sharia law looks like in the USA? Is it already here? Can a majority be subjugated by an organized, ruthless minority?
I’m just askin’ questions…
No Fear says
Is the Indonesian maid muslim?
No Fear says
According to Wikipedia she is a muslim.
Jack Diamond says
The court case record apparently called her a 17 year old Muslim girl who was illiterate and didn’t speak English. Another source called her an infidel. Regardless, her “owner” felt he could take what was his due in return for providing for her.
al-Turki’s basic Muslim behaviors also included these:
al-Turki ran an Islamist book store and publishing company in Denver, he was closely tied to the Saudi funded Islamic Assembly of North America, which was then a hot bed of jihadism and al Qaeda linkages–IANA even started a website called Azzam.com (the IANA later took over the bookstore); and he was close to one, Anwar al-Awlaki. He distributed and helped launch al-Awlaki, who first came to prominence preaching in the same Denver al-Noor mosque al-Turki attended (al-Turki had copyrights to al-Awlaki recordings).
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
Hummm – appears as though he’s getting in some “Advanced Practice”, for when he becomes a “Martyr”, and goes to Allah’s “Heaven”, to “Screw” Allah’s and the Qur’an’s “Promised 72-Dark Eyed Virgins” in “Islam’s Pedophile Prophet Muhammed’s Heavenly Whorehouse”.
Betty says
all you people talking about rape of women and children. I want you to imagine one of these savages on one of you children boy or girl doesn’t matter. because they will and rape both. can you see it. how would you feel? what would you do? keep in mind these are your children. not some child a couple of thousand miles away. because if they aren’t stopped now. they never will be stopped. our children are at stake.it makes me sick to think grown savages touching our children. must less raping them.
MKG says
Time to put his ballocks on the chopping block. That will save the tax payers alot of money. In addition spending an eternity with no ballocks and 72 bored virgins will seem like hell.
EYESOPEN says
Love the way you think. But remove ALL offensive organs. Let him sit down to p** for the rest of his life – like his wife.
celtic warriarcanada says
An ideology which sanctions rape and pedophilia is defended and protected by the Left in the west ? OF COURSE ! They helped lower the age of consent , helped to turn Europe into a pornographic society , and in North America helped to create groups like Nambla (the man boy love society). Why would a society full of people WHO COLLECT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, Attempt to RAPE CHILDREN BY LURING THEM THROUGH CHAT ROOMS ! Why would they have A PROBLEM WITH A SO CALLED RELIGION WHICH PROMOTES RAPE AND PEDOPHILIA ? There only problem will be when their FELLOW pedophiles THROW THEM OFF BUILDINGS , stone them , and cut their heads off .BECAUSE ONLY THE FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM ARE PROTECTED TO COMMIT THESE ATROCITIES !
cindy says
Ifhe refuses just don’t let him out of jail. And require that he pay for being housed in jail. Why should tax payers take on this jerks expense????? We need to start putting or foot down and not put up with this kind of crap. They don’t make the rules!!!!!!!! They are the minority!!!!!!!!
Angemon says
Looking at pictures of scantily-clad women: haram. Raping women: halal.
Your “religion” sure has a nice set of morals…
Life it is then. Good.
I bet it is. The kuffar arresting an arab muslim, descendant of the people who (allegedly) lived and fought alongside muhammad, for doing something that islamic law allows? Inconceivable! I bet for the saudis his conviction seems as foreign and alien as women getting arrested for reporting rape in muslim countries to us.
Oh, I guarantee that would be the case.
*sigh*
Why can’t muslim stick with a harmless conspiracy theory like “the moon landing was a hoax” or “Santa Claus exists”? Look, if muslims want to do as bearded old guys tell them to then at least stick to harmless whackos, like this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier
They also believe that camel urine, preferably fresh (or warm) from the source, heals everything…
bassi says
Wonderful that a Colorado judge decides the sentence is excessive. I wish he would sing a different song if his daughter or sister was kept a slave by an uncouth pig like the saudi.
And it is so proper that a nation of subhumans like the Saudis who would stone people to death or behead them for some flimsy charge, take up the cause of this pig and decide that the sentence was excessive and politically motivated
All nations should stand together and stop allowing their citizens from traveling to Saudi, and all nations should place a strict ban on the rabid Mosque building alcove that is funded by the Saudis.
Madame Bamungo says
In Western Christian countries there are many people like him now. In their culture/religion they treat women like a food. They think they have a right to have any women just like they have a right to eat a food or drink a water. I used to work with a Muslim long time ago and when his friends visit at work the only thing they use to say to him was “you need a women”. And anytime they see women they only talk about her shape and this and that and there are so many of this people immigrating to the West now those ones who belief women=food, not nice.
Islam_Macht_Frei says
So his “religion” forbids looking at scantily-clad women? And yet Islamic countries are leading consumers of Internet pron, year after year.
But the really weird thing here is, this is pretty much the only instance I can think of of a guy going AGAINST his own self interest while claiming Islam. Usually Islam is used to rationalize self-gratifying behavior.
Old African lady with no teeth says
That is a good question, I think maybe they think Allahu doesn’t think it is Haram consuming internet pron maybe they think because the internet is not mentioned in the religion textbook so it is okay. By the way internet been invented after the 7th century in it? What I don’t like is killing and terrorising innocent people. In Judeo-Christian religion the biggest sin anyone can do is murder and the next biggest sin is rape, what I don’t understand is they are obsess about what women wear but they don’t care about murdering infidels and molesting, this is just weird, weird and corrupt in it?
Jack Diamond says
He has refused mandatory sex offender classes from the beginning, he thinks it would be an admission that he did something wrong. He was also justifiably confident that the Kingdom would get him remanded into their custody. As it is, his sentence was reduced considerably for “good behavior.” His terrorist connections and possible implication in the murder of Tom Clements remain wild cards.
albert says
Why is there not a United Nations investigation into slavery in Islamic Countries, teams of investigators need to be sent to all peaceful Islamic countries with the remit to investigate such abuses, set the slaves free and prosecute the perpetrators, the world abolished apartheid in South Africa yet allows slavery in Saudi Arabia and other muslim countries. Very often non muslim workers are enticed from poor countries like the Phillipines, Nepal and India with promises of wages and decent living conditions then simply enslaved when they arrive and are we to believe that the local law enforcement authorities don’t know that this is going on???? More likely that what they are doing is not considered immoral in Islam.!!! Why aren’t the left wing hand wringers in Europe and the USA up in arms over this.
Albert says
Mr Robert Spencer,
Sir I have a suggestion, why don’t you and Pamela Geller start an anti slavery campaign pledging to coerce the United Nations into abolishing world slavery ( which they should be doing anyway ) It would be fantastic to see you and Miss Geller addressing the UN. It would be just as interesting to see which Dhimmi Democrats would speak against you.
MKG says
Albert, your concerns about slavery are the same as mine. I had read an article recently on the subject, I’m sorry I can’t recall the source, but it stated there are many antislavery organizations working on the problem. Their biggest challenge when it comes to the UN is 54% of the countries in the UN are islamic. Plus there are countries in the UN who do not want to admit to the shame of having slaves within their borders, even the non-islami countries. It will come as no surprise to learn the countries with the largest slave population and slave trade are in central and north Africa and the middle east. The number of indentured servants, sweat shops and trafficking in persons (sexworkers) are taken into account as well. The United States is on the list, but near the bottom.
Jack Diamond says
Charles Jacobs and the American Anti-Slavery Group, iabolish.org, would be a good resource. They work with Christian Solidarity International. Dr. Jacobs said this about the failure of the human rights community to address modern slavery:
“The history of the modern day abolitionist effort is a history of small, dedicated passionate groups of people, fighting slavers and slaving nations – while the large, well funded human rights organizations sat on the sidelines, or in the case of Sudan, actually hindered our work.
I spent more than a decade unraveling why this was the case: how could the very people who led the fight against apartheid in South Africa turn their heads away from the plight of black slaves in North Africa who suffered much worse oppression?
The short answer is what I have called, “the human rights complex.” Briefly: Western rights groups consist mainly of decent white people who are motivated to fight evil committed by people who are like themselves. The vast majority of slave-owners are non-white. If human rights organizations are embarrassed to point out, much less fight hard against awful behavior by non-whites, they cannot be counted upon to be an important force in a movement to abolish slaves around the world.
Any effort to free the some 27 million people who are today in bondage, without addressing this human rights flaw, is destined to remain relatively small, no matter how heroic.”
Besides being non-white (and potentially racist/imperialist for guilt-ridden Westerners to criticize) most of the enslavers are also Muslim and anything Islamic is taboo territory for the “human rights” community.
The mistreatment and abuse of foreign workers and servants in Saudi Arabia and the UAE is well-known and the countries that continue to allow their people to work there are complicit. India no longer allows its citizens to work as housemaids in Saudi Arabia. Would that all other countries did the same– Indonesia, Sri Lanka, the Philippines. Indonesia last year ended their moratorium on sending domestic workers after paying blood money to save an Indonesian maid from the death penalty for killing her employer, who she claimed was attacking her. The money (meager as it is) that gets back to the home countries of these “workers” (slaves/indentured servants) is considered worth the ongoing abuse of their citizens.
MKG says
Excellent information Jack, thanks.
Money is the bottom line for all parties involed in modern slavery, whether one is selling slaves or selling themselves into servitude as a means of providing for their family. Having been to over 30 countries, I have personally seen the desperation in humanity which is a driving force behind this trade among others. People who are so destitute, they are willing to put aside their dignity just to survive. Dignity is a luxury that many can not afford. These issues are as old as mankind itself. There are no easy answer or solutions. If there were, humanity would have done it already. Sometimes I think all we can do is dedicate ourselves to our work and do our best for our less fortunate brothers and sisters.
If this sounds depressing, that’s because it is. Especially for one who had risked life and limb for a people, only to witness them turn and engage in the very problem you had just delivered them from.
Please forgive my brevity, I-phones are hard to type on and I never cut and paste.
Stay sharp.
Linde Barrera says
To albert- Excellent point. All Jihad Watch posters who hate Islam should make a call to the UN High Commissioner on Human Rights and demand that the UN confront and have this vile practice abolished.
jewdog says
It all depends on what one means by “offender”. A Muslim who rapes, enslaves or otherwise abuses an infidel woman is an emulator of the Prophet, not an offender. Trying to force this poor guy into attending a course on Western sexual morality is nothing but cultural imperialism, n’est-ce pas?
Celine says
Poor guy? ooh, la la!
Betty says
give him a choice take the course or have it cut off. better yet cut it off and and then punishment by making him take the course. then deport him to hi home land. as long as it isn’t AMERICA. SO HE CAN SPREAD THE WORD JUST WHAT HAPPENS IN AMERICA IF YOU RAPE ANY ONE.
Claude says
Got news for you dirtbag… U.S. Law and Colorado State Law are the only Laws that apply here. Your stupid, damned silly religious laws don’t mean squat! Get a clue Shirlock! Your a lowly perverted pedophile, and if you’re ordered to attend a sex offender course, you will go! And if you don’t do it willingly, then you will be incarcerated and forced to attend! Which is what I hope you will do anyway… Pedophiles in prison are dealt with swiftly and unceremoniously before you even get the chance to yell, “Aloha Snackbar”! Problem solved!
wayne says
This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.
This is not hearsay, and it will scare the life out of you.
Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) towards the end.
Joys of Muslim Women
By Nonie Darwish
In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child.
Consummating the marriage by 9.
The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave)
and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.
Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.
To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry.
The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family.
Husbands can beat their wives ‘at will’ and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.
The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.
In the West World ( America and Britain and Australia ) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her.
It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.
By passing this on, enlightened women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law ripping the West in Two.
Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world,
ripping Western law and liberty in two.
She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.
Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978,
When she was eight years old her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel .
He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza ..
When he died, he was considered a “shahid,” a martyr for jihad.
His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.
But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing..
She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law – what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.
For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world.
If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed.
Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual.
Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.
Peace and prosperity for one’s children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules
Everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.
While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule,
Sharia teaches two systems of ethics – one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims.
Building on tribal practices of the seventh century,
Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.
While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God,
Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.
It’s hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or
choose to stop being Muslim should be executed.
Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West,
such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.
While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time,
Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form
of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.
(In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. And Britain To elect the Government by themselves!
Rest assured they will do so…
You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA .. Dearborn Mich. Is one…
And there are others..) ( Britain has several cities now totally controlled by Muslims)
I think everyone in Australia, U.S. and Great Britain should be required to read this,
but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful..
Some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam..
The peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion.
While America and Britain is getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives
of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America .. ( Britain and probably Australia) .
Linde Barrera says
To wayne- I thank you for your 6:58 pm post. You gave a truthful and dismal picture of the perceived future. That doesn’t mean it will be reality, however.
EYESOPEN says
I’ve read Nonie Darwish’s books – particularly “Cruel and Usual Punishment”. Excellent! Another very brave woman, like Wafa Sultan.
John Boston says
Islam is full of perversions. No wonder, since it was founded by Mohammed, who had sex with a 9 yo girl (as all the Hadiths agree). He also allowed rape of captive women, in which no doubt he also indulged, and beheaded thousands of captives in view of their wives and daughters. His disciples follow him to this day.
To all of this I say, Let’s do something. I am not advocating attacking Muslims physically, but something much better. The attack should be within free-speech limits, and aimed at Islamofascist supporters and appeasers.
I have ordered a T-shirt with the infamous “bombhead” Mohammed cartoon on the front. If the company (Custom Ink) will print it, I will wear it.
I will wear it in Harvard Square, which is populated by both liberal students and many Muslims. The point is not so much to offend Muslims, but to get the attention of the liberals/ appeasers to this cause of freedom of speech.
I have already been warned that wearing this shirt may get me beaten up or worse, but someone has to do something to confront Islamofascism and its enablers. As Patrick Henry said, “give me liberty or give me death.”
Christian A. Beltram says
Any religion that allows or even requires such perversions whether it be Islam, the Jehovah’s Witnesses or groups like the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Lattter-Day Saints (FLDS) should be outlawed and its members should be legally be prevented from using their religion as an excuse to avoid obeying the law. Even though I do not condone the atrocities committed by Communist regimes, I know that they would never have tolerated such perverse religious practices in their countries, the only good thing that existed in formerly Communist nations.
EYESOPEN says
Oh really? What about the notorious Lavrentiy Beria? His “religion” WAS communism; but he was nonetheless a ruthless sexual predator, who used his position as NKVD chief to hunt and procure victims for his sexual depravities. So I don’t buy the BS.
Vox populi says
The interesting bit here is, I think, that the weasel managed to travel into the US from saudi arabia already WITH the poor girl. In other words, this is the real example of how coward and blind we have become: nobody asked himself who this lady was, at the border? Is this how alerted we are? US, as other countries, are simply blindly importing the horror. Maybe or fear of confronting it? That he has been brought to justice may be just casual: fact is, we simply allow this cancer to spread, and we are giving up our civilization at the same time. Future generations, after having cleaned up our mess, will just laugh at us….
Randy Smith says
Slavery should be punishable by up to the death penalty. Breaking other of our laws when he came here should also be prosecuted. Just entering our country and being guilty of what are considered crimes here, that are committed elsewhere, should be prosecuted as well. There is no room in the world for any who violate basic human rights of others, no matter if they say it is part of their religion or not. To not prosecute should also be a crime, and violators should be charged as knowingly aiding and abetting criminal activity. Slavery, and violating basic human rights, should be wiped from the face of the earth. If not by war then by isolation of the offenders from those who respect human rights. It’s a far more noble of a reason to war than for the sake of oil profits. In fact it would be forward progress in helping to defund terrorism, and the violation of human rights, if we outlawed the importation of O.P.E.C. oil, the most likely prominent source of terrorist funding, regardless of what those who reap obscene amounts of profit from o.p.e.c. oil may tell you to the contrary.